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Episode Date: December 17, 2025

Robert Spencer of JihadWatch, author of the new book, Holy Hell: Islams Abuse of Women and the Infidels Who Enable It. Good talk, then open phones, D62 quiz and more....

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Starting point is 00:01:37 813. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit Fontana Roofing Services.com. It's a musical trip. 16 after 8. Robert Spencer joins me. He's the author of Jihad Watch, a Shilman fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Boy, that was sad to lose David, that is for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:03 When you say, Robert, welcome back to the show. Good to have you on, as always. Yes, absolutely. David was a great hero. And anyway, Bill, good to talk to you again. You have written so many books, what, more than 30 of them. Gosh, everything from the politically incorrect guide to Islam and the Crusades, the truth about Muhammad, the bestsellers, the history.
Starting point is 00:02:22 of jihad, the selling of Zoran, Mamdani. Oh, boy, that was a scam. Not the book, but, you know, the process, I would say here. Your latest, though, I find quite interesting, Holy Hell, Islam's abuse of women and the infidels who enable it. I don't know, maybe this is connected to the Mondami kind of candidacy there, too. But, welcome. What are you thinking, then, about what's going on in Paris?
Starting point is 00:02:49 because Paris has decided that they are going to surrender. They are surrendering to political Islam, and they're canceling their New Year's Eve celebrations there because, well, I guess they can't tell the truth about what's going on there? Yeah, exactly. And I'll tell you, Bill, I think that all of these things that you mentioned are related and speak to a very deep sickness in Western society, and it's a kind of a...
Starting point is 00:03:19 people have called it a suicidal empathy. I think also it's just plain cowardice, as well as short-sighted self-serving political calculations. That is, the Western governments, including our own, at least up until the Trump administration, have inundated their countries with massive numbers of Muslim migrants and then instituted policies of appeasement for those Muslim migrants, really bending over backwards, doing everything they could,
Starting point is 00:03:49 to accommodate them in order to get their votes. And meanwhile, among the Muslims are violent jihadis and people who think that they can use infidel women sexually with no problem because the Quran allows that, and that's what the new book is about. Is that what goes on when you see those stories, Robert? I didn't mean to interrupt there, excuse me, but is this what happens then when you would see like over in, I don't say Denmark or some other place? and you would have these liberal women holding up the signs,
Starting point is 00:04:25 migrants welcome, migrants welcome, and then the rape gangs start, right? Is that what you're kind of what you're getting at here? Yeah, absolutely. They don't really have a clue what they're welcoming is the problem. And they think that they are bringing in these people. Well, another sign that I think sums it up. It said they are not dangerous. They are in danger.
Starting point is 00:04:48 refugees welcome. Well, the fact is that a lot of them are dangerous, because Islam teaches that, like I say, you can take infidel women and use them however you want. This is in the Quran. It's all in the book, that you should wage war against unbelievers and subjugate them. These things are all part of the teachings of Islam that Western authorities so far have resolutely refused to admit even exist. how can Western society survive, Western civilization survive, with such an attitude, or with such a, I guess, it has to be self-loathing to some extent to be this way, isn't it? Yes, yeah, absolutely. And it's the embarrassment of success that the Western world has been the most successful civilization in the history of the world. And in many ways, it's synonymous now with world civilization. And that creates a great sense of shame among Westerners instead of thinking, wow, we're really on to this. We've got the greatest society in the history of the world. They think, well, we must be stealing from the other people or, oppressing them in some way. And of course, a lot of this comes out of false ideologies such
Starting point is 00:06:07 as Marxism, which do work on the basis of the false idea that if one person is rich, he must have stolen from the next guy. And it's not that he just worked hard and got what he got what he has legitimately. And I would add that whoever we're supposed to support, we're supposed to support the one who has supposedly oppressed the most. That's the pecking. The inverse, the pecking order. So that leaves us with tremendous self-hatred because the supposedly oppressed are the non-Westerners. You talk about in holy hell, in fact, the subtitle is Islam's abuse of women and the infidels who enable it. Why are there so many liberal women who are a fan of this? Are they just holding sway to this, whoever is supposedly more impressed? Or is it just the, you know, is it,
Starting point is 00:06:59 And I'm going to be a little scatological here just a bit. Is it, you know, are they turned on by the terrorists, so to speak? Yeah, I think that's absolutely true, Bill. The bad boy. Yeah. Bad boys and also they are tough. They're real men, whereas so many men in the West are so soft and effeminate now. And so these guys come in from Afghanistan where they've been fighting wars for 20 years,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and they're appealing, they're attracted, and they're dangerous, and that's kind of exciting. Boy, the problem is that attractive and dangerous is dangerous to the society at large, and do you think that the current administration has a serious plan to go after this, especially given that we've imported so many? All you have to do is look at the state of Minnesota, look at the state of Michigan, too, you know, for that matter. We seem to be importing the problem. Well, it's the administration is a tremendous improvement over every administration before it, because it's acknowledging there is a problem, and Trump has immigration restrictions on many of the countries that are hotbeds of jihad terror. And so that's all to the good. And he's even recognized that Minnesota and Dearborn Michigan area and so on have been thoroughly ruined by mass migration.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Well, and Texas is in the process of growing one of these enclaves, is it not? Yeah, precisely. And so the problem is that the administration is going to face and is already facing tremendous opposition to any efforts to try to stop this because the Democrats are benefiting from it at the ballot box. Robert Spencer with me, his latest book is, Holy Hell, Islam's Abuse of Women and the Infidels Who Enable It. is there any evidence of how shall we say I'm going to use the term a good Muslim a devout Muslim would be treating women in our society were the caliphate to be set up in the United States completely at some point well sure in in Britain there are Sharia courts Islamic law courts all over the country and because the Quran says that you should beat a woman
Starting point is 00:09:17 from whom you fear disobedience, when women come to them and say, to these courts and say, my husband is beating me, they don't say, well, we'll go and have him arrested. They say, go back and try to please him. Oh, boy. Could you imagine a judge in the conventional court saying something like that? Hey, in other words, you were asking for it, girl? Right? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Exactly. And see, this is the thing that the, this is the big trick that was played on the British people that when the Sharia courts were set up 10, 15 years ago, they were promised that they would not interfere with the criminal courts, that if there was a criminal matter, then they would immediately refer the case to the criminal courts. But they haven't done that because they don't really think that spousal abuse is criminal activity. Oh, okay, it's just boy-girl activity. Great. Good to know that. Do you think, though, that the liberal intelligentsia, that's in charge of so much of the West, Robert. Robert Spencer, by the way, with me this morning.
Starting point is 00:10:23 We're talking about, you know, academia, media, a lot of political power in this, too. Do they understand the depth of the danger that they're courting? No, they don't think they have any clue. It seems like the Democrats, for one, they think that they can just bring in any number of, of these people and that they will vote democrat and that's all that matters the idea that they might end up destroying the united states that they think oh that's just the Islamophob talk that way yeah but you know the thing is as far as politics goes that could be an effective political
Starting point is 00:10:59 strategy because isn't political islam about cloward pivoting us to a certain extent in which it's okay we come here we have kids we overload the welfare system we bring it down, we break it down, you know, breaking down the system. Is that also part of this process? Absolutely part of it. I mean, after all, we have to remember that these people are socialist internationalists. And so they don't really, I mean, it's been observed for many years by many people that left, the leftists seem to hate America. And I don't think that's any accident. They want to destroy America as a nation state, the nation state that it currently exists and
Starting point is 00:11:41 replace it with their socialist internationalist paradise. Now, I know we have the First Amendment, Robert Spencer, but is it time to actually reconsider Islam being a religion? Because the part that always bothered me about Islam being considered a religion in our country. And by the way, I have known the so-called proverbial peaceful Muslim, right? And I've known, I've talked to various sorts of people, but it's the only, it's the only so-called religion, in my opinion, that is actually a political system, too, on top of that. And I think that's where I break with this First Amendment protection, or am I wrong about that? Well, I think that there's several ways to approach it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 The problem with the idea saying that it's not a religion is that it is a religion. I mean, a religion is basically something that claims to relate people to God. It may not do that, but that's what religion's claimed to do. and Islam claims to do that. So I think very simply it is a religion, but it is also a political system and one that is aggressive, authoritarian, violent, and supremacist. And so we have to approach it on that basis and say, this is more than a religion, and as a political system, it is not welcome in the United States. And if you want to come into the United States, you have to understand that you're going to leave those aspects of Islam at the door, or you're liable to deportation. it was the, was it the mayor of Dearbornistan, as we all nicknamed Dearborn, Michigan? Was it the mayor that told a Christian that he wasn't, or he or she wasn't welcome in the city? Yes, absolutely. And I think that was an indication of the authoritarianism that is inherent in Islam. He can't deal with dissent. He doesn't want dissent. He doesn't respect the idea
Starting point is 00:13:32 of a free society. He wants everybody to think the same way. This is the collectivism. that is inherent in both Islamic law and in leftism. Talking with Robert Spencer and his latest book, and I have a feeling this is going to be a must read here, this just came out just recently? Yes, that's right. Okay. Holy hell, Islam's abuse of women and the infidels who enable that.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And you can find out more about this on jihad watch.org, but is this available at all the usual suspects here, Robert? We're going to find out more about you. Absolutely. It's at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and if there's still any bookstores out there, they should have it, too. Okay. Let me ask you about a couple of our more illustrious Congress Critters, as an example. Elon Omar, do you study her and that background of the marrying of the brother? What do you think about all those claims?
Starting point is 00:14:32 Well, I don't think there's any doubt about that. The records are clear that that's exactly what. she did do. And so the question is, does anybody have the guts to do anything about it? Well, I'm wondering, why has she not been deported yet then? Even if she is a congressional Oh, yeah. Okay, so congressional representative is all it takes to then be non-deportable, non-touchable, I guess. Yeah, a congressional representative who's on the left, because the left takes care of its own. The right can't wait to throw people under the bus. and attack its own. But the left, they stick together. Robert, how long do you think we have before we really have a caliphate problem,
Starting point is 00:15:17 looking at the way it's been going up to this point? I think things are starting to happen fast, Bill. You mentioned Texas, and we've got Michigan, Texas, Minnesota, and there's going to be more quickly once they get into an situation that they have in Dearborn and in Minneapolis, where they don't. dominate local politics, then they can elect their own representatives. And we've seen the effects of that with Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tleb, and they're going to be a few more of those next time and steadily more and more until we reach a tipping point.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Out of curiosity, given that you say in holy hell how Islam abuses women, is the idea that we have female Muslims in power like that? Is that part of the faint or the deception to people? no doubt about it whatsoever. People say Islam is misogynistic, and then one of the very common responses is to point to Omar and Tleb and say, how could Islam possibly be misogynistic when you have not only them, but then you have Benazir Bhutto, who was Prime Minister of Pakistan, and you have Sheikh Hasina, who was Prime Minister in Bangladesh, and so on and so on. But really, it's those people either were in power with heavy pressure from men who thought that it was illegitimate for them to hold power, or they were just prunting for, or Islamic groups that were fine with having the show, the women out front for show to fool the unbelievers. I thought that was what was going on. I appreciate you confirming that. Holy hell, Islam's abuse of women and the infidels who enable it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Robert Spencer, of course, of jihad watch.org, and just an amazing researcher. I appreciate you coming on here. We will definitely have you back. Robert, thanks for having been on. Be well. Hey, a pleasure. Thank you. Yeah, we got a lot of work, don't we?
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Starting point is 00:17:33 That's 770 KMED. 835. Oh, the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so delightful. Well, it's especially frightful if you're up at elevation. Greg Roberts, Mr. Outdoors here. And we wanted to bring you some news of road closures. And now, we got some wind this morning. Some win, not as bad as I was hoping.
Starting point is 00:17:58 They didn't blow the lights off my tree. my Christmas roadie here, nothing like that, so that's good. But, you know, it was kind of spotty. It's like some places was really windy. Other places just perfectly calm. So, but it is happening, and it is pretty wild when you're getting up into the mountains this time, right? Cascades. Yeah. And, you know, I kind of took a look in everything I saw at first was like, oh, okay, well, not as bad as we had feared, so we're probably looking pretty good, right? Well, I eventually made my way to trip check. And no, we are not looking good. The Cascades had a very significant height of severe wind event.
Starting point is 00:18:41 The end result of that is down trees and power lines or the combination of both have closed every single highway in the Cascades except Southern Oregon highways. And they are Highway 66, Highway 140, Highway 58. That's it. And from what I understand it looks like then. It looks like the more serious stuff then moved a little east, farther east than we thought was going to go. Is that it? Well, in terms of the wind, you know, this actually, I think everybody was focused on the squall line potential here in Oregon with the cold front coming in last night. And that front just moved so strong.
Starting point is 00:19:20 It had a lot of jet stream support. And clearly, especially at elevation in the mountains, those winds transported down to the surface. and chaos has ensued. Now, just looking here in our immediate area, Highway 62, close from prospect, mile post 44, to mile post 65, which is in Crater Lake National Park. Highway 230 is closed entirely. Highway 138, East Diamond Lake, closed at Tokedy, all the way out to the Highway 97 Junction. So if you had plans to go east of the Cascades today, you are definitely here in this area going to have to use either Highway 140 or Highway 66. ODOT is saying they have no idea when they're going to be able to get these highways reopened again. But they're going to prioritize it.
Starting point is 00:20:15 They will put all the effort into getting 62 and 138 open. They'll get to 230 as they can. Okay. Very good. Good to know. And what kind of snow are we talking about at elevation? What's the snow level right now? Right now, based on what I've seen, it's somewhere in the 5,500 to 6,000 foot range, but everything above 6,000 feet. So the webcams I looked at above 6,000 feet, steel center at Crater Lake National Park, very white there. They maybe got a couple inches. normal at this time of year, they would have 40 inches of accumulated snow. But bad as that sounds, with everything that's coming, I think they're definitely going to jump quickly and get back up much closer to normal by this time next week.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Good. Mount Ashland, there is a trace of snow on the ground. I don't even think it's an inch. But again, Mount Ashland, above 6,000 feet and very likely going to be getting that big dump of snow. that could get them open for Christmas Day, if not sooner. Greg, is this the warmest fall on record? It's one of the headlines I'm seeing in the media right there. Is that true? No, that is absolutely not true.
Starting point is 00:21:34 It's not. The latest measurable snowfall at Crater Lake National Park, and I forget the year, but I know the date, December 28th. December 28th? Okay. Yes. So this is nothing unusual then to have the snow just kind of. of stay away until late in the month. Yeah, I don't know. Here's the byproduct of what you're
Starting point is 00:21:57 seeing from the media. Clickmania. That's why they do the headlines that they do. They want the clicks. They probably have monetized all their pages. I mean, I've done the same thing. But I won't resort to click mania because in the long run, it doesn't serve you well. In the long run, wind up figuring out a lot of this is just hysterical BS, and I'm not going to do that. Okay. So, yeah, I'm costing myself money right now, and I know it, but I'd rather be honest. All right. I just thought I'd ask you, but thanks for keeping us in the room here, and so it's nothing unusual that it's this late, but it did feel kind of a warm fall, though, you would admit.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Oh, without any question, you know, but again, what I want to stress is, yeah, it's not very common to see this happen, but it's also definitely not unheard of the latest. You pick your hysterical term. You know, one of the things that bugs me with the, you know, the Fox News Channel, if they don't sell commercials, they end up putting a filler ad in, and the filler ad is for, you know, the Fox Weather podcast, right? And what is one of the vocalisms they have in there, one of the reporterettes in there saying temperatures 30 degrees above normal don't tell me that's not trying to program the people for thinking that way
Starting point is 00:23:24 absolutely but you know what here's the sad part the people have programmed that because they only do that because they saw the response to it people wouldn't go hysterical and go nuts over these hysterical terms, they would stop. But you know what? People can't help themselves. Here's the other thing. This is human psychology 101. Why do we have so many negative ads in politics when everybody says they hate it? Because it works. It works. Yeah. Exactly. Why do we have so much hysteria around weather when everybody says it and everybody says they're lying about the weather? Because it works. All right, Mr. Outdoors. Thanks so much. up on that, rogueweather.com. Greg Roberts over there and all the soul. What is all your social media?
Starting point is 00:24:15 Where are you now? I know you're on Facebook, too. Yeah, we had to shut down Miwi because I loved Miwi for years, and then Miwi went, well, to use a term, bat, bleep crazy, and I don't use Miwi at all. It's basically for major public access. It's now just Facebook, but I do have a Patreon page. And yes, you could sign up for free. Patreon, you're only going to see maybe about 30% of the total post I put up over on Patreon because, oh, I'm not going to lie. My whole purpose in having Patreon is to drive revenue for me. But it's basically now just Facebook and Patreon. And then, of course, the website is obviously still up. All right. Very good. Hey, Greg, take care. If we don't talk to you on Thursday
Starting point is 00:25:05 with some weather disaster, we'll kick it around Friday, okay? Thanks. Yeah. And, Obviously, this is just the beginning of what's going to be a very volatile period of weather that will extend all the way to Christmas morning. And as things like this happen, believe me, we will be updating everybody and letting them know. All right, Greg. Take care. Thanks a bunch. You too. 843, happy to take your call 7705-633 on the Bill Meyer show. Do you hesitate to heat the whole house when you spend most of your time in a particular room? Glacier heating and air is a diamond dealer for Mitsubishi ductless heat pump.
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Starting point is 00:26:54 But, boy, Islam's not a big fan to them, but take it away. What do you think? Hi. Yeah, one of the things that you said is that you thought that only the Muslim religion was not only a religious. religion by the political system. But Vatican City is an ecclesiastical state, the seat of the Roman Catholic Church. It's the world's smallest, fully independent nation state. It's ruled by the Pope, and anybody can go to Wikipedia and look this up.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, well, I understand that, but yeah, it has its own state. But is it exporting its state, its religion, as a Trojan horse of the state? I'm not aware of that. Maybe I'm wrong. It's undercover. It's covert. Hmm. Because they have a lot of influence.
Starting point is 00:27:56 They have a seat at the United Nations, but they're not out there. And also, this Vatican, it has a very prominent part in, time Bible prophecy. And if you go to the book of Daniel chapter 7, verse 24, it says the 10 horns are 10 kings who shall arise from this kingdom, which they're talking about Europe now, and another horn shall rise after them. He shall be different from the first ones and shall subdue three kings. He shall speak pompous words against the most high. He shall persecute the saints of the most high, and shall intend to change times and the law. Okay. Well, I'm not going to argue with you on the scripture aspects of it. I don't think that the Catholic Church, though, is nearly the
Starting point is 00:28:58 political force in the United States as it may be elsewhere. Would you agree with me on that? Well, now that the Pope is now an American Pope, that may change. All right, Janice, I appreciate the call. Thanks for making it, and I hope you call back. It's 10 before 9. Brad, give me your take here. Another talk on the Robert Spencer conversation. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Hey, Bill, Brad here. Christmas greetings to you. Thank you. Really interesting conversation. So you know that there's a lot of political. and geographically, a couple other ways, a lot of similarities between Minnesota and Oregon. So, Oregon, Oregon, about, you know, 4.2 million. They've got, you know, maybe 50% more population than we do. But, you know, Minnesota, kind of like Portland, they've got, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:48 they've got the rural areas that are more conservative. Yeah, and we have the people holding up the signs. Welcome migrants. Yeah. Welcome migrants. But here's something that a lot of people don't know. is in Minnesota, they just discovered that there were 1834 ghost students being paid for. I mean, we know about this. Yeah, ghost students, of course, are students that don't really exist, but they're getting state aid. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. Yeah. These are non-existent students that yet somehow there was all of this money that was coming out of the system, that was, you know, education money, going places that had, they still don't know where the money went. So, Bill, here's my question. Yeah, how many do we have here? How many we have here, right? Right?
Starting point is 00:30:37 Well, yeah, and not only that, and I'm not saying that this gentleman has anything to do with Oregon, but, you know, for people who would be surprised to know that our Senate majority leader does happen to be a man who was born and raised in Somalia, and he's the Senate majority leader, Casey Jama. So, you know, again, there's a lot of similarities between Oregon and Minnesota. And, Bill, what do you think? If they've got 1834 ghost students in Minnesota, what's the likelihood that we've got some of that going on here in Oregon? Let's just go with proportionality figure.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Maybe we have three, 400. How about that? Well, how about that? Okay. Thank you for bringing it up, Brad. Yeah, don't know, just engaging in conjecture, but you're right. We're not all that different from Minnesota except a nicer climate overall. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:31:59 Sounded like you're out of speakerphone. You're off now? Yeah. Good. All right. It was this week in history, David, 1925. December 15th, 1925, Madison Square Garden formally opens. Over the years was the home of the New York Knicks, Rangers, college basketball, boxing matches, wrestling, so many other things.
Starting point is 00:32:20 The original that opened in 1925 lasted 43 years until a new Madison Square Garden opened nearby, 1968, and the old structure was torn down. For opening night at the new arena, the lower bowl was filled with men in tuxedos and women in furs and evening gowns. The question for the win, David, what type of event was Madison Square Garden hosting for its first formal event? Tuxes and women and gowns and was it a basketball game, a jazz concert, a boxing match, a hockey game, or a musical? What do you say? Musical. You're going to say musical. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:33:01 The tuxes and things? No, not this time. I'm sorry. Let me go to the next line. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello? This is Doug.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Doug. This is Doug. All right, Doug. Thank you. This is Bill. So, Madison Square Garden, first game for the first event here. Was it a a basketball game, B, a jazz concert, C, boxing match, or D, a hockey game? One of those four?
Starting point is 00:33:26 What do you say? I'm going to go with a boxing match. A boxing match. Yeah, you can dress up for a boxing match. You'll see that in Vegas sometime. Right? Yeah, no. No.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Sorry. Let me go to the next one. Hi, who's this? This is David. Good morning, Bill. Good morning, David. Well, it's not a boxing match, not a musical. The very first event in Madison Square Garden, they're all dressed up in tuxes and gowns.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Basketball game, jazz concert, or a hockey game. What do you say? I'm going to say a basketball game Basketball game No It wasn't that either David I was pulling for you All right
Starting point is 00:34:02 So we're down two more Hi good morning who's this Hi this Calvin We got either a jazz concert Or a hockey game What was the very first event At Madison Square Garden
Starting point is 00:34:13 I got a good jazz concert You got to go jazz concert Right down to the end And what do we have here Hi who's the winner Good morning. Good morning. This is Colleen.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Colleen. Now, you have one chance and one chance only. They're wearing furs and they're wearing evening gowns and they're wearing tuxedos. Was it a hockey game or a hockey game? I'd say hockey game. Yeah, you're right. That was it. After all that, tucks and tails and evening gowns and they're watching a hockey game.
Starting point is 00:34:51 It was an NHL game, New York, Americans. lost to the Montreal Canadiens. Of course they did. It was a 3 to 1. Game was played before 17,000 fans. And by the way, the Americans who ceased to exist after 1942 were the first NHL team in New York. They were supplanted by the Rangers who started playing in 1926. Who is this again?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Your name one more time. Colleen. Colleen, you're going to enjoy Diner's 62. Hang on. I'll get you all set up. 856. When your neighbor tells you... Hey, Brad.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Got about 40 seconds. Can you make a good point here as we wrap up? I'll keep it quick. It's interesting to follow the Somali issue in Minnesota. We had an issue like that in Oregon called the Rajneesh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Almost forgot about that, right?
Starting point is 00:35:42 I was actually there. I was on the compound. I got to see it. So you're thinking that. Yeah. Maybe we talk more about that on conspiracy theory Thursday. Thanks, brother. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:53 See you that.

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