Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 12-19-25_FRIDAY_7AM

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

12-19-25_FRIDAY_7AM

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausorrilling.com. I'm just proud to bring back on Greg Roberts. Greg Roberts, of course, Mr. Outdoors at Roveweather.com, and we just wanted to talk about where things are headed over the next few days, what it's like in the outdoor, and maybe even a little talk on this wolf depredation situation. Gosh, I was reading an article about that.

I don't know if Greg saw that or not. But Oregon Truck and Auto Authority, the sponsor of this Outdoor Report, and they're on Airway Drive in Medford and Mr. Outdoors, of course, rogweather.com. Greg, what is going on here? And I guess we're going to be drying up a little bit. And then next week it's just going to be all wet and maybe snowy, depending where you are, right? Yeah, depending on where you are, you know, and I was pouring through a bunch of data this morning.

And I think you pretty accurately described it wet and snowy, depending on where you are, you know, it's nice that we finally got the atmospheric river to come south, but what is very clear now this morning from the latest runs of the data, the atmospheric river just is not going to linger over us and then hold over Northern California nearly as long as earlier, you know, output had indicated for us. So the really heavy stuff now, by all accounts, is going to push down into California much faster than anything we had been seeing up until this morning. Are they looking for any kind of flooding intensity like what the state of Washington

and parts of Northern Oregon experienced? Yeah, that actually, in that aspect, that's probably, our saving grace, because it is not going to be lingering over us nearly as long. You know, and of course, down in California, even if the reservoirs are full down there, they still don't have enough water to meet all the water demand. You can never put enough rain and water into California. You just, you can't. You know, and that's just, that's the way humans do things.

they think, oh, I want to build here. They don't take a look at critical resource things like water. And so California, Arizona, Southern Nevada, all of those areas completely overstripped the natural ability to supply water. And they're running out of aquifer, too, aren't they running out of aquifer, the ability to pump it out of deep sources? Exactly. And, you know, people just decide we're going to do. what we want to do and don't pay attention to anything naturally. And I mean, even here in this area, and we both heard Stan say it, you know, this area is just not typically normally wet.

And that's true. I mean, you can look at the average annual rainfall. And for any kind of a decent population size, Medford is absolutely the driest spot west of the Cascade. Yeah, 18, 19 inches a year is on average what we get on rate. point four four to be exact. You get to Grants Pass, you're talking 30. You get out in the Illinois Valley, Cave Junction. You're probably closer to 80, and of course we've talked about it before, O'Brien gets nearly 100 inches of rain a year in an average year. Wow. Pretty good rainfall there, so easy to grow in those neighborhoods. Right. Exactly. And, you know, but humans are humans. We look at all sorts of things when we decide, yeah, I want to go and live there.

And one of the last things that people look at is water. You know, honestly, if you don't have enough water, then you get the kind of things happening that we're seeing in Arizona and Southern California and Nevada, because those places, hey, nobody has to guess. They're deserts. Yeah. Well, the part that, well, and we have the agate desert, too. We were called the agate desert. And, you know, it's fascinating to look at the history of the railroads. Of course, the railroads brought the population, the real population growth here in the 1860s, 1870s, 1880s, when that was really started to go on. And everybody talks about, well, you know, gosh, you used to rain so much more here. And I think, nah, it's kind of an outlier. But even then they were talking about miserably hot summers and, and, and, you know, rain. It's what they were talking about. Here's the other thing. What I know, what I'd always known, but what I really know now from starting rogue weather back in 2011, people's memories are very short. I mean, real short. And then they're quite honestly, people have a real habit of, how shall I say, misremembering things. Well, yeah, and you remember it the way that you

wish to recall it, I think, in many cases. I think, yeah, I think there's, there is a lot of perception that goes into it. You and I have talked before about Linda and what she thought Medford's climate was like because what it was like when she got here in the 1980s, and that was actually an abnormality. Yeah, it was a very wet, it was a wet, cooler pattern in those days. Exactly. Yeah. But that wasn't the normal.

And so, yeah, well, it used to be this wave. It just rained for days and days and days. Yeah, it did. You know, no doubt. But that is not the normal. It's normally, and she said, really, 18, 19 inches of years? Yep, that's it. That's the average from Epford.

That's the normal for us. So there we go. And people are shocked when they find that out. Then you go to other portions of the country. And when you're paying attention to the weather situations there, what always astonishes me was going to Oklahoma. and talking to people there when I told them I'm from Oregon, they go, oh, it rains there all the time. Yep, that's what they always think.

We're standing in Oklahoma City, which has more average rainfall than Medford does at over 40 inches a year. It's just they get it more in dump quantity. Ours tends to be gradually spread out over a period of month. When I say dump quantity, what I mean is they more frequently see thunderstorms that will come up that can drop anywhere from three to eight inches of rain in an incredibly short period of time. Boy, that's the kind of weather that I would see in Fargo, Moorhead, you know, North Dakota, Western Minnesota, because, oh my gosh, I never saw lightning and storms and rainstorms like I saw living in that area and snowstorms for that matter in the winter. Yeah, and I thought I knew what rain, heavy rain was. Oh, no, no, no. You get underneath some of those severe thunderstorms in the Midwest or the monsoon storms in Arizona,

and you'll find out that what you think is a heavy rain in Oregon, that's nothing. And I still haven't been in a tropical system like a tropical storm or a hurricane. Yeah, let's talk about that and where we're headed toward next week as far as Thanksgiving, pardon me uh christmas travel is it going to be any kind of an issue is it going to be only high level snow still like a crater lake i know i got a dusting the other day we were talking about it is that improving at all and what about skiing potential at all what do you think um i'm especially now looking at the new data runs i am less optimistic about mount ashland and mount chasta being open christmas day just because with the changes of what we've seen uh yeah

they're going to get snow. I just don't think it's going to be enough even for the limited opening for Mount Ashland. Mount Shasta, depending on where the temperature profiles land, they could be in a different boat because, well, they can make snow, but then again, there's also temperature requirements that it's got to maintain a temperature cold enough to hold the snow they're going to create because you don't want to waste your water resource, which is limited to what they have in their reservoir to make snow. You don't want to waste that if you're going to make snow all night and everything's going great. And then your daytime temps get up into the 40s and melt it all off. Yeah, forget about it.

That doesn't work at all then. Okay, so we'll just keep an eye on that. All right. So the other thing I wanted to touch on here, did you read that article on Capitol Press the other day that came out about the wolf cattle kill rising in 2025? Did you see that one? Just curious. Yeah, no, well, I didn't see the article. I was already well aware of what they based that report on. Okay. I knew that. Yeah, and what they were getting at is that ODF and W deals. And they're saying that the wolf kills, of course, have soared, but they're running out of money to pay the farmers or the

ranchers for this. Did you catch that? Yeah. And that, and that, and, that's also very true because I think, you know, again, this is, this is a thing you go into it, and you think one thing, and then the wolves are going to do something entirely different. I mean, and let's just go right back to the original belief that they somehow magically thought that the wolves would never come west of Highway 395. Yes, sure. And pretty quickly, within two years of arriving in Oregon, they were west of 395. So they based their projections, forecast, if you will, on how much money they thought they would have to pay out to compensate ranchers and livestock owners based on what, quote, unquote, we thought the wolves would do. And of course, nobody sent the

memo to the wolves, and the wolves are now being wolves. And I have said it here before, and I'm going to say it again right now. Wolves want the easiest meal they can get for the least amount of energy expended, and when it comes down to making a kill, cattle are way easier than deer elk, and they're learning this. And in reality, I'm going to say this again, too, wolves will much rather scavenge a dead carcass with no real energy expenditure and no risk potential for them, they would rather scavenge a dead carcass than to go and kill something. But needless to say, they like cattle for the same reason we like cattle. All right.

Well, yeah, obviously. I mean, A, it's tasty, but when it comes right down to it, there's a side to it that humans never even think about or have to worry about. Cattle are just dumber and easier than deer and elk. Okay, yeah. Yeah, the deer certainly run cattle not so good at that as a rule. Okay, all right, fair enough. It's not the run thing.

It's the fight back thing. Oh, you're talking about, you're talking about like the mother deer, you know, beating the wolf to death, right? General, the deer and the elk have very sharp hooves. They can kick, they can rip a wolf apart with their hooves, and then, of course, the males have antlers. And, yeah, no, deer and elk really fight back. And the other thing deer and elk are really good at doing is figuring out what the wolves are doing, figuring out what they need to do to combat that. Makes sense.

All right. Not so much. All right. Now, is there any way that you could actually work a system? Is there any kind of proven system to get the deer out of the cities where you no longer have the pet deer problem in Jacksonville and Ashland and all the rest of that? Do you know, is there any way to really do that to discourage? No, because you're going to have to program self-preservation out of the deer.

And the deer are smart. They'll figure it out. They go, pardon. First, they go, ooh, the people like us, and they feed us here, and then, hey, we've got a lot of food, we've got cover, we got water, and there's much fewer predators. And then, of course, Oregon's stance on predator control is purely abysmal. And then you get a situation like what's going on in the town of unity in extreme northeastern Oregon. Mule deer have figured it out and gone, oh, hey, we can just go here into town. and it's created a situation that first the townspeople embrace them, treated them like pets,

and now the deer are doing frightful damage to their yards, their vegetation, and then, of course, when they drop their fawns, they turn aggressive, and now the people in unity go to ODF and W and say, get rid of these deer. And so ODF and W is going to do that. They're going to remove, quote-unquote, kill 50 mule deer, in the city of Union. And when you look at mule deer overall east of the Cascades, I'm here to tell you that's 50 mule deer that we honestly can't afford to lose on the landscape.

Yeah, the population numbers have not exactly been high for the mule deer, right? That's why it's a treasure tag if you get one. Yeah, mule deer numbers from where they were in 1990. We have 70% less mule deer now here in Oregon for us. a variety of factors, including predators, and especially, in this case, we're talking to cougars and wolves. And I think the future for mule deer, pure mule deer in Oregon, is going to be real bleak. What would you think about, wouldn't there be any way to relocate them to an area that would be less hospitable to in-town living, perhaps? You know, and quite honestly, that's my first

thought, why don't they just round them up in pens and live transport them somewhere else, exactly like they did with the elk out there on foothill road a few years ago. They rounded those things up, got them in pins, and trucked them to the Calmeopsis wilderness, which had a mixed bag of success, but overall was more successful than some other relocation efforts they have tried to do. And couldn't we do that with the deer in Jacksonville and Ashland, for example? Yeah, honestly, that situation, though, it's a little bit different. And, you know, cities back east now, they're adopting urban hunting for deer,

and it is restricted to bow and arrow and crossbows, where crossbows are legal. And again, it's had some success, but deer smart. they start figuring out, oh, we could be hunted here in towns, and then you will always have those people cheerfully participating in those efforts, and especially with Ashland and Jacksonville, you will have people that were dig their heels in, and absolutely not. Nobody's coming on my property. Okay, yes. In other words, it's a intelligence lacking in residents. Okay, there we get that. So they could be, they could be hunted and or relocated, but there. There are, well, it's misplaced.

Okay, fair. I get that. Okay, I get that now. So they could because I'm bringing this up because I have a sister-in-law lives in Jacksonville, and she has an extra tax lot behind her home. So she has this open space, had a fence around it. Well, the deer all figured it out. And, man, I got to tell you, they're always breaking the fence down.

They're always dropping their babies there. And they're always being aggressive. And half the time she can't go out in her own backyard for this reason. And that right there. is a perfect example of the exact same thing happening in union, and now you're getting the situation in union that you're getting, ODF and W is going in there, and they're going to remove 50 deer, how they came up with the number. I have no idea. I know they did go through the town, assess the population of the deer, and then decided, okay, we're going to remove

50. Okay. Talking with Greg Roberts once again, Mr. Outdoors, Rogueweather.com, Let me grab a quick call on that. Maybe there's a comment on this particular issue. Hi, you're on with Greg. Who's this? Morning. Good morning. It's Francine, and I have a question.

Sure. With the culling of the deer, the culling slash killing of the deer, do they just simply dispose of the deer then, you know, or do they actually take the meat? Can't they use the meat for, you know, to give to the people that run the, you know, do the dinners for the homeless? Oh, yeah, that's an interesting question. Greg, do you know? Is there a regulation on it?

I do know, and that is the only positive thing here. They absolutely do process the meat, and it is used in food banks, more specifically. Because, of course, now in Union, well, unlike most of Western Oregon, transient is something they don't have to contend with, but hunger is everywhere. There are people who definitely need the help and the assistance. And so when we're talking about something like this, the end result of the animals being cold. I, you know, even here on the air, I still want to try and use any word but killed, but that's the truth. They process the animals and they wrap them and they get them in the food banks.

Okay, that's good. So at least it's not a waste. That's good to know. That's good. Yeah. All right. Okay, thank you. Very good.

Thank you, Francine. Well, Mr. Outdoors, it sounds like it's going to be relatively mild, relatively wet, but are we ever going to get down to, like, freezing, freezing temperatures in the near future, as you see it before we wrap? Well, you know, it's kind of funny. We're going to be getting some information up from Pete Parsons, who is ODF's meteorologist. He's also Oregon Department of Agriculture's meteorologist. I mean, he basically replaced George Taylor.

And Pete's thinking it. is as he looks at all the analog years. And what he does is he looks at what's going on right now, what the trend is, and then he looks in history to see what years matched up to this. Now, even before he identified it, I was telling this audience, there's a lot of things that remind me of 2017. He now is showing 2017 as one of his baseline years. And he is talking about how January looks to be average across the state for temps,

but above average for precipitation. And he said, we will see swings to the extremes on either side for temperature and all of his analog years, meaning the years he's basing his predictions on, all of them featured valley floor snow outbreaks in January. So, yeah, I think we do transition over to where we're going to see some really cold temps, and we do definitely have an increased possibility of seeing what I'll call significant valley floor snow accumulations, but that comes up as we hit January in 2026. All right, very good.

Greg Roberts, once again, rogweather.com. Appreciate the talk there, and we'll think about wolf predation and what to do with the deer and everything else. We'll talk more about that as the news comes out there. Real quick. Yeah. Real quick, Bill. Those people out there who think wolves are wonderful creatures of light and magic,

we flat run out of the options to try real coexistence. Get ready for the fact that ranchers and livestock owners are going to wind up getting the green light to shoot wolves threatening their livestock. because at this point, there is just nowhere else to go. All right. I think that's a reasonable assumption of where it's headed. And Greg, thanks so much for checking in from rogueweather.com. We'll talk, okay?

You got it, Bill. Roadweather.com. And an outdoor report sponsored by Oregon, truck and auto authority on Airway Drive in Medford. Appreciate you being here. Happy to take your calls also, 7705-633. For precision and performance, choose Stephen. You're here in the Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. What kind of air do you want to breathe if you want to be rich?

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Millet Construction.com. Now time for the Diner 62, Real American Quiz. If you wanted to get in, still a couple of lines open. They won't be open long, though, because everybody loves Diner's All your hearty breakfast favorites. In fact, Linda and I were at Diner 62 just the other week when we were in Eagle Point and then stopped by there. He had a great lunch. Oh, my gosh. One of my favorites is still the Mushroom Swiss Burger, but there's something for you. And if you leave Diner 62 and you're hungry, have the doctor check your hormones, okay?

Right. And they also have the hot open-faced sandwiches that are back. Hot roast sandwich served with mashed potatoes, brown gravy, or the hot turkey sandwich with mashed potatoes. Gravy and cranberry sauce. That is all the way through the holiday season. Okay, so let me go to Mike. Hello, Mike. How are you doing this morning?

Welcome. Good morning. Great. So, Mike, you could get this. You just never know. It was today in history, 1972. The last lunar landing mission ended. That's it.

The Apollo Lunar Landing program ends with the last three astronauts to travel to the moon, splashing down safely in the Pacific Ocean. Apollo 17 lifts off from Cape Canaveral 10 days before. After three years of preparation, NASA accomplished President Kennedy's goal of putting a man on the moon, safely returning him to Earth with Apollo 11. Now, from 69 to 72, there were six successful lunar landing missions and one aborted mission, Apollo 13. Now, on this final mission to the moon, Mike, for the win, how many pounds of rocks of moon rocks did they bring back successfully? How many pounds of rocks?

I know that weight was a big deal there. Was it to A, 15 pounds, B, 30 pounds, C, 60 pounds, D, 120 pounds, or was it E, 240 pounds? It's one of those. What do you say? How about, what was the one before 240? That's 120. That's D, 120 pounds. 120.

You think that's 120. I wish it were so, but it was it. It's either higher or lower. We don't know. So we're doing kind of a high-low question this morning. Hi, good morning. It's the Diner-62 quiz. Who's this?

Hello. Hi. Oh, I'm on? Yes. Oh, awesome. What's your name? Yeah, I'd like to laugh at NASA, usually. With their moon blippers, it's hilarious.

Oh, this is Dawn, isn't it? Right? Yeah. Okay, Dawn. I recognize the voice. All right, Don. So, I don't, okay, I will then match the question to your point of view, okay? According to the establishment historians who may or may not be telling the truth,

how many pounds of moon rocks did they claim to bring back successfully? Are you happier now? Is that better? That's awesome. Okay. Yeah. Pattern recognition specialist or spoiler alertist. How about that?

Okay. How about that? What do you say? So it's either 15, 30, 60, or 240 pounds? How about 30, fake rocks? You're thinking 30. 30 is it? No.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I love that. The Conspiracy Theory Thursday call that comes in. So it's not 30. So we're either 15 or 60 or 240. All right. Hi, good morning. This is Bill.

Who's this? Hey, Bill, Darren. Hey, Darren. So 15 pounds, 60 pounds, or 240 pounds of moon rocks. How many bags of rocks they bring back? How heavy was it? I'll take a stab with 60. With 60 right there in the middle.

Oh, I was pulling for you, Darren. Let me grab one more. Now we're into the 50-50 side of this thing. Hi, good morning. You're on the Bill Maher's show. Who is this? This is Jim. Jim.

You got either 15 pounds of moon rocks or 240 pounds of moon rocks. I know it's 240, but I think they had to leave an astronaut. You're saying 240? 240 rocks, that many, yeah. You're a way. You got it. You got it, Jim. You weren't fooled by the conspiracy theory establishment historians.

Yes. During the Apollo 17 mission, astronauts Eugene Sernan and Harrison Schmidt stayed for a record 75 hours on the surface of the moon, conducting three separate surface excursions, collecting 243 pounds of rock and soil samples. Although Apollo 17, the last lunar landing, the last official Apollo mission, was conducted in July, 1975. Apollo docking with the Soyuz 19 spacecraft in orbit around the Earth. It was fading that the Apollo program, which first visited the moon under the banner of We Came in Peace for All Mankind, should end on a note of peace and international cooperation. So there we go. Jim, congratulations.

Off the Diner, 62. Hang on. I'll get you all set up. And that means I turn it over to you now. 7705-633-770 KMED. We can just noodle around the news and other stories. Santa, little Timmy in the Rogue Valley is asking for a new water well. Hmm, I've already got Timmy down for a Nintendo Switch. I bet his parents put him up to roofing, wishing you a Merry Christmas. And they ask you support hearts with a mission this holiday season and into the coming year.

Hi, I'm Jessica from Pickerspon, and I'm on KMED. 751, 7705-633. 770 KMED. What is on your mind for an open phone here? Maybe we can discuss a little bit of that. I find it interesting that President Trump ended up lowering the schedule or raising it to Schedule 3, which means on, and this is talking about marijuana that ended up happening yesterday. And what is coming out today, though, is that we have Oregon's senators.

Both of them are not real happy about this. They wanted full legalization. And this is Senator Merckley. Senator Ron Wyden just said he wanted it legalized too here. Today, Oregon's U.S. Senator Jeff Merkley, the lead sponsor of the Bipartisan Safer Banking Act, issued the following statement in response to President Trump's announcement that he assigned the executive order to move cannabis from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3, so you can open it to medical research and treatment. This is what Jeff says.

Cannabis rescheduling is a step in the right direction, allowing medical research and legal cannabis businesses to be a appropriately taxed on their net profits. But this change from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3 still leaves these cannabis businesses in violation of criminal law because the production and use of cannabis for non-medical purposes remains a federal crime. As such, these legal businesses are still prevented from accessing the banking system. So maybe this had something to do with why Senator Ron Wyden also wanted it legal. My question for you this morning is, do you think that cannabis has been helpful ever since the legalization process? Do you think it's worked out okay?

And we're just kind of used to it now and it's all right? Or did we make a mistake by legalizing it in the first place? Now that you've had a number of years to observe this, do you think that we have got a handle on it in the state of Oregon? Are you comfortable with the cannabis legalization as it is? Or are you not? Are you okay with President Trump just saying, okay, we can do the research on this and research it medically? I'm kind of torn on this.

I really am because my libertarian roots are still coming from this as, okay, it's a plant from nature, right? You know, just like I can see, all right, grapes, we ferment grapes, and all of a sudden we can have alcoholics, you know, once we have, you know, the wine and then the beer and all the rest of it. But the U.S. editors, of course, are wanting full legalization, and I'm torn on this because I also realize that prohibition, when you have the government involved in prohibiting most anything, usually what it ends up doing.

is that it provides a market for the cartel. And yet I know that here we were saying, hey, let's make sure and have legalized cannabis because that'll get rid of the black market. That doesn't seem to be what has happened, but was that because of Oregon legalizing it or was it because of the fact that the rest of the country under federal law kept it illegal?

How do you see it? So, you know, one question I would have, How has it actually played out in the culture? Has it hurt? If it has been hurting it, have we been able to, you know, mitigate most of the problems? Are you one of those people that it's the gateway to the fentanyls and the other sort of problems? Now, I grew up at a different time. I grew up in the 1970s, and now there was some marijuana, certainly some marijuana there.

The marijuana was pretty crappy from what I recall. Well, he spoke it a few times in my life, but I will admit to have inhaled it. I think we're dealing with different stuff now. But my take on this is that I don't think it's been a real positive for our health or for our culture, not because marijuana is inherently evil or anything like that, But just because, though, we have just a growing number of people that are always looking for a way to numb themselves. And I just looked at marijuana as yet just another way to numb ourselves or have a pleasurable feeling. Has that necessarily been helpful?

I don't know. The one thing I do know is that a lot more people are smoking it around here where they shouldn't be smoking it. I can't tell you how many times that I'll go into the grocery store and you'll smell it on someone, right? And they're walking around, they're pushing their cart. Now, it's just me observing it. And then the individual leaves goes out into the parking lot and pulls out the vape pan. And he is vaping some sort of a cannabis extract, right? I'm thinking, oh, okay, and then gets in his or her car or truck.

And I'm looking at that, going, boy, you know, that's, you know, even with the lax laws that we have here in the state of Oregon right now, you're not even following that. You know, it's supposed to be actually consuming this and operating a motor vehicle, just like I'm not supposed to hit a beer and then get in the car either. You know, same sort of thing. But there's kind of a light touch on a lot of that, I guess. So how do you see it overall? Would you have been comfortable if President Trump legalized it entirely? Would you be okay with that? You think that would have helped us more?

or might it have hurt us more? A lot of questions, and I still think it's worthy of discussion because we have our senators that are angry with Trump because he says he didn't go far enough. But I would think that the senators could probably come up with some legislation and change that themselves, but maybe they don't think it would make it through Congress. How do you see it?

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Taking your calls at 770KMED. And we're back on the marijuana thing. Both of our senators, Senators Merkley and Wyden, are not happy that President Trump did not just do a full... well a full legalization or you know just getting marijuana off of you know getting cannabis rather you know off of the schedule entirely just saying hey let's just let it go and there is appeal to what they're talking about the challenge with prohibition is that honestly the government always ends up protecting a cartel it's like a guaranteed business model for the cartels and look at the cartel the issues that we've been having here in fact

Got the four illegal aliens, arguably cartel members, that buying 250 guns from a few of those FFLs here in Southern Oregon. Of course, that's a different thing. They haven't been convicted yet. But yeah, you've got to figure. Probably busy. It does drive a lot of the drug challenges, but how has it helped or hurt the culture, I guess? And are the senators right about this?

Just legalize it. And then we work with the other problems. I noticed a lot of people, a lot of people, more people than you would probably think or are smoking it right now. I see it all the time. They're even breaking the current law. We talk with John. John's in Medford.

John, I have a feeling you have an opinion on this, but I love to get it. Let's hear it. Yeah, Bill. Yeah, so this kind of ties in with what you were talking about earlier in the week with regards to our health crisis. So this, like, Mary's right up with that perfectly. Sure. Bill, we've just lost our way.

And I like to call it, looking for love in all the wrong places, whether it's, you know, sex or drugs or rock and roll it's really all the same it's kind of an escape from like that gnawing conscience within us that we just want to put the light out and not listen to yeah but that's kind of human nature i mean we've humans have always looked for an escape or for some sort of psycho drug or something to either numb the pain or just kind of you know cut us loose i'm I'm not promoting that. I'm just saying it is a reality of human nature, when you say. Yeah, and I'm reminded of a Bible passage that says,

unless the seed falls to the ground and dies, it cannot become a mighty tree. And this is what we're doing when we're looking outside of ourselves. So, yeah, the drug thing, to me, that's just looking for something you're never going to find unless until you find that, you know, that kingdom of heaven within you. But here's the other drug. And I just started, I've been on keto for 10 years.

I just started one meal a day in November 1st. And then I just got a blood, glucose, ketone meter. I'm measuring my blood chemistry and tracking my carbs. Carbs, I just heard Andrew Plotnick this morning on YouTube say carbs as a drug. And I'm encouraging all of us to track our carbs. And the key is to have like 20 carbs or less a day, which changes that. blood chemistry, okay, then it releases the fat, the visceral fat that's basically trying to kill us. Yeah, well, we knew that even with the Atkins diet back in the 60s for crying out loud.

And everybody has known this. I guess, though, what I was referencing, though, is the illicit drug. And I suppose maybe you think of it, carbohydrates, the most illicit drug of all. but the challenge with the keto diet and the carbon-free diet is that proteins are expensive and getting more so wouldn't you agree well bill i got to tell you i've been i've been for spiritual reasons i've been a vegetarian all coming up on the 30 years next summer and um i'm taking my medicine now and i'm seeing great changes in the body the visceral and my ketones and so I'll admit to the world I'm eating sardines every day and this is like 30 years

I've not eaten meat and these little beautiful little fishies that are very low in the food chain but they're like perfectly balanced with with protein and you know the olive oil the omega-3s and it's what my body is responding to and I feel better than I've ever felt and so I'm taking my medicine every day all right so it's working for you that's good I'm glad to hear that. Back on the cannabis, though. Yep. Are the senators on the right track, though, to say to President Trump,

just they'd be happier with a full repeal of the cannabis law? Yeah, you know, I'm kind of with you, Bill. You know, I'm more of an independent that way. I like the idea of having things available and having us basically decide, no, that's not for me. You know, put that apple down. I don't want everything banned because, well, like fentanyl, You know, Trump is bombing boats, allegedly bringing this stuff into our country.

But, Bill, if no one consume that stuff, there wouldn't be a problem. Yeah, I get that. And I see these arguments on both sides of it. And frankly, if it was really about, if it was really about, I mean, this is a Trojan horse that I think Trump is using in this particular case. Because, let's be honest, he just pardoned a drug dealer, one of his, you know, someone that he's actually. somewhat friendly with, who smuggled tons of cocaine into the United States. Well known about that, and he pardoned him, right? And so it's not really about drug addiction, or it's not really about the war on drugs.

Because as far as I'm concerned, if we were truly serious about the war on drugs and we didn't want fentanyl and cocaine and all those other things, we'd be executing the drug dealers coming up and down the I-5 corridor from Mexico all the time. But that doesn't happen, does it? No, just like I really believe our troops were defending the poppy fields over in the sandbox. Yeah, but yet we're conditioned to think, oh, boy, we're showing really tough action. No, there are other things going on. This is a pretext, rather, to probably do regime change once again, which the United States loves to do.

All the presidents that we've had for ages now are into different types of regime change. And this is probably also about trying to get with Venezuela being shut out of the dollar. And so they get together and partner up with Russia and China, places like that. It's pretty complex thing, really. It's not about the drugs, though, even though the sheep will be conditioned to think that's what this is all about. We're now in an era of – we've seen how the medical education, religious, industrial complexes, government have failed us. And it's a good thing because it's causing people that are really seeking the, truth and answers for their own well-being to look within for that and take responsibility

for their own life and their own health and get out of the backseat for the government driving you through the pearly gates because it's never going to happen this is where we have to take the bull by the horns all right so overall would you be okay with a full legalization like the senators ask or would you be more cautious uh i i'd rather everything was available I've got a box of candy on my desk. I'm not going to eat it. I'd rather the temptations be there and us find our own spiritual strength within ourselves

and just say no. All right. Appreciate the call, John. Thanks for making it, okay? Be well. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, enjoy your sardines. Okay?

I don't know. You know, the one thing I didn't ask, John, though, is like, okay, sardines. So you get your wonderful protein and your oil and all the rest of it there, and a nice dose of mercury. Maybe they're farm raised. I don't know.

It could be. Thank you.