Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 12-22-25_MONDAY_8AM

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

Dr. Powers has the latest WHERE PAST MEETS PRESENT, the pioneer XMAS of the 1800s vs Nieman Marcus opulence and the other news going on, too....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Your place. Dawn, you've been very patient holding on. What's on your mind today, huh? Welcome to the show. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Good morning. Good morning, Bill. Well, if we're discussing libraries and I think definitions are important, and if we're discussing pedophiles, well, what's the definition of a pedophile? How about, let's start with, what is an audiophile? Well, they appear to be lovers of music. Right. So if you're going to call someone a pedophile, are they just lovers of children?
Starting point is 00:00:38 I think there's a much more appropriate term here, and that would be a peterast. Oh, a peterast. What's the difference to it, a pedophile and a peterast? Because if you're going to go with lover of children, well, then we could all, or many of us, could then be defined as, you know, pedophile. Right. So that doesn't appear to be a crime if you're just a lover of children. You know? Well, after all, well, as I've only been half kidding about it, when I say, oh, no, I love children. No, I really love them, you know, the pervert side of things. Right, right. Well, pederast is more graphic, obviously. I think it includes definition of rape instead of just, you know, a whole hunch of a friend of children. So, you know, I mean, even the consequences in court, I mean, are they getting lesser sentences because of the actual true definition of pedophile? I don't know if that true definition necessarily matches what the legal or the, you know, the statute definition would be.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I'm not sure. Yeah, if you go up the food chain and you've got out of these elites and they're just pedophiles, I don't know. All right. Well, you're giving me something else to think about this morning, Dawn. I appreciate that. Well, thank you. All right. Merry Christmas.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Merry Christmas to you if I don't talk before then. By the way, remember I was talking with Lucretia a few minutes ago, and I had mentioned. that I had received a interview pitch for someone and to me it just struck me as once again the grooming of children into the into shall we say different kinds of love all right we'll put it this way I found the pitch I had a stack of about like 300 pieces of paper here I'm very organized but it says dear Bill Meyer award-winning author and Guinness World Record Contender Malana Anderson invites young readers into a world where love takes every imaginable form.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Her new release Animal Fairy Tales, Book 10, Touch of Love, explores 25 distinct kinds of love, from loyal and unrequited to forbidden and fleeting. Malana Anderson
Starting point is 00:02:48 is a moonbeam gold medalist in contender for two Guinness World Records, by the way. From a Python who learns that love should never squeeze too tightly, that sounds okay I guess to star-crossed sweethearts whose hearts mend even the fiercest anger to a hippo and a pig who prove that love can be gloriously messy and delightfully muddy each tale twirls between laughter and longing and reminding young readers that
Starting point is 00:03:15 every kind of love has its own magic yeah yeah you know what's kind of hidden in between the in between the lines, don't you? At least that's how I interpreted it. It's like, oh, I get it. I get it. Anyway, let's talk about that. Let me go to 7705-633. I don't know who's there.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I know Dr. Powers will be standing by. We'll talk with him in a minute or two. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. It's David and Phoenix. Hey, David.
Starting point is 00:03:48 What's up? I just wanted to end the year on the Bill. Meyer's show with the Bill Myers family on a positive note and say, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, happy New Year's, and good things to everyone. Now, no, hold on. You're in Oregon, though. You're supposed to be talking and celebrating the winter holiday, the winter holiday on Thursday. Happy first day of winter. Happy winter solstice. There you go. I want to include everyone. I just want to say,
Starting point is 00:04:25 I hope 2026 truly will be good for everyone, and we can do a little bit better than we did this past year. And I want to thank the Bill Meyer show, and I want to thank all the Bill Myers' callers, and it's kind of like a – it sort of is like a radio family, and it means a lot to me. And you know, you're a member of that radio family, too, dysfunctional as it is, okay? You're part of it. I may be the chief of the dysfunctionality. No, you're not. Thanks for including me. I appreciate it. Merry Christmas, Bill.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Merry Christmas, David. Great hearing from you. 770KMED. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hello? Hello? Hi, who's this? This is John. Hey, John. It's on your mind. I have a, I like to have a request. Sometimes, maybe Kevin Starritt, or sometime before, on the first of the year or somewhere after that. if he could kind of review where we stand legally in the state of Oregon about guns. I'll be happy to have him back and talk about specifically that, if you wish. You bet I will.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, the storage and the new laws and whether we're still open carry and what that extends to and, you know, that whole gamut. All right, we'll do. Merry Christmas, and thanks for the suggestion. Okay. Thanks for you, too. All right. Bye-bye now.
Starting point is 00:05:51 814. Let me get Dennis on here in just a moment, maybe another call or two, and then we'll get into where Pass meets present. We're talking about Christmas in the Rogue Valley. And more. Next. We've heard it all. A two-car accident in my... Slash Cam.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Here, KMED and Grants Pass on 105-9, K-290AF, Rogue River, in South Jackson County on 1067 K-294-A-S, Ashland. Dr. Power is standing by. Of course, that's the theme of Brother Brad, my favorite Slovenian out there, besides myself. How you doing there, Brad? Welcome. Thank you so much for the music, as I wear my polka-dotted underwear. There you go.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And by the way, I did find a patica recipe that Linda and I are going to work on, but we have so many sweets right now that we're working through. I think I'm going to have to. Yeah. Just go. Wait a little bit on that. But what are you thinking here, huh? Something about history?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Go ahead. Well, last week, you had a topic that I thought was very valid to investigate. It's a whole Somali thing in Minnesota. And where that's relevant in our own Oregon history, and this is where I'd love to hear Dr. Powers discuss the whole Raj Nishi episode of our history. Hmm. Okay. Well, let's run that biome.
Starting point is 00:07:16 see what he thinks. Okay. I was in, because of my business travels, I was in a little town called Antelope. It's back to Antelope now, but they took over the town and changed the name to Rajneesh. And mistakenly, I was wearing a business tie, and I got out just looking around, and I had two of the local police individuals follow me, and they were not just brandishing firearms. They had, I don't know if you don't want a Mac 10 is. It's a fully automatic weapon. I took both these individuals that's strapped under a chest. And I'm thinking, what the heck is this all about?
Starting point is 00:08:02 You know, it just gave me a, it's where history really gives us revelation in the sense that, Can't individuals come in and totally disrupt a culture and take over? Absolutely. Yeah, it does look that way. I'll tell you what, dear Brad. I will run that by the doctor. He's standing by on hold, and we'll see what he has to say. Maybe we can take a look at that as part of our where past meets present. Okay. Hey, thank you, buddy. All right. Merry Christmas. If I don't talk to you before, Brad. Dr. Powers is here. Hey, Doc. That sounds like an interesting situation. I've never, I kind of forgot about the Raj Needs.
Starting point is 00:08:39 thing back in the day. Do you? You forgot about that? Yeah, that's an excellent point about Rajneesh, because that was one where a community really took over a small town, and then what happened was it was corrupt. It hit national recognition, if you will, when they were trying to go ahead and poison, you know, through putting in various germs, you know, part of the people they disagreed with. And with little Somalia and such, what happened there is not only a travesty, the question is, is the extent to which our Justice Department will get in because what these people have done, along with Illar and the rest of this group, is fraudulent. Because you know they got, they were washing campaign contributions,
Starting point is 00:09:38 that came in to them from their looking the other way. It's just a continuation of everything. Yeah, and then, of course, I have to tell you, and I also have to tell you, speaking of Representative Omar, is that if she doesn't get taken out, when I say taken out, I'm talking legally for having committed immigration fraud to get here in the first place by marrying her brother, and the evidence points to that quite deeply, then you've got to figure that there's no real.
Starting point is 00:10:08 rule of law. You know, if you're powerful enough in the system, then there's no rule of law that can do anything to you about that. What do you think? I couldn't agree more, and the only thing that might hold it up is that with the election coming in in 2026, perhaps they wait until afterwards and then come in, but you're absolutely right, and this is just a tragedy to to all of us, to allow this magnitude 9 billion plus and moving upwards, including other parts of the Midwest. And I'll tell you, Biden was so corrupt. One of the things I learned years ago, my friend, was that I worked very closely as the assistant to the president of the Times Mirror Company, L. Casey, he went on and became the Postmaster General, and he did a lot of
Starting point is 00:11:00 different things, ran American Airlines. And what I learned, it was that at the top, that the people in control are the ones that create the environment of whether you're honest or not, and they were very honest. And the corruption of Biden that came down is just massive. And that whole thing just sunk into all of his lieutenants who are doing the same thing. All right. Now, This is not a political comment. This is just the fact that what is happening now is Somalia with all these different things, I'm just shaking my head. Well, the other thing I would say is that given that Somalia is a corrupt culture,
Starting point is 00:11:44 it is reasonable to figure that many people coming from Somalia, especially illegally or otherwise, have a vein of corruption in there because it's of the culture that they grew up within. Okay, so let's set that aside here for, moment, all right? I need a pallet cleanser. I want you to take us back to Christmas Eve and day the way it once was here in Southern Oregon back in the day. Prior to the internet, prior to radio and television, and prior in some cases, even there being a lot of newspaper coverage of much of anything here in Southern Oregon, maybe even prior to the railroad. Gosh, we could take it back
Starting point is 00:12:24 to quite some time. What was it like in our pioneer days here in the Grants Pass? And Medford, of course, Medford may not have even existed at that point in Ashland and all the rest. What are you saying? Well, you're absolutely right because, you know, going back, let's say, 150 years, it was really small settlements that was in our state. And what really was striking was that you had families that would actually try to start settlements, even then, Ashland, even coming into Grants Pass, lots of different things. And there you would normally have a town Christmas party. I came across, I had to search and search and search into some newspaper clippings that had to do with, like, say, Ashland. They would have presents for all the children. They had a community tree.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They had a, the residents played music on Christmas Eve. And they would have these communities. activities in Christmas Day. If you got into a larger city, which is where Medford was, the one that I loved was finding the advertisement for the Grand Ball will be in Byers Hall, Medford, and Christmas night. This is 1885, a fine supper. The best thing. Yeah, yeah, tell us about that. How much did a big Christmas party crossed at 1885 in Medford, huh? And that's an excellent question, $2.50 bill, because at $2.50, now that would be two and a half days wages approximately. So that was a big deal. That was huge money, $2.50 to attend in those days. Yeah, but you also got the services of a first class caller, along with the fine supper and the
Starting point is 00:14:13 best of music. But then over time, and this was interesting, when you went ahead and started advancing in the decades, you would find the newspapers coming out with advertisements for all sorts of different things for Christmas presents, and going into things that actually were people would need. I mean, it could even get into the point of typewriters and going into a bicycle. But what's amazing, though, is that over time, the stockings grew fuller with oranges, candy canes, ballpoint pens. You know, I would remember hearing from my great-grandparents who came here in the, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:14:57 late 1800s, and they would talk about how the treasure, the, the wonderfulness of having an orange, it was just something that we so take for granted today, but then it was like a wonderfully exotic gift to get in your stocking. Really something. And Bill, it really was, as you're pointing out so well. It really was. I can remember when I was growing up as a wee one that an orange in a stocking. There'd be for the four boys. There'd be an orange in each one and maybe a candy cane.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And it was a real treat to go ahead and to have those. And then all of a sudden we had one time my mom with her sense of humor, went ahead and put in a can of concentrated orange juice. And I said, Mom.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Okay. He's messing with you, huh? Yeah. Just messing with this. And then from there, it just continued all where the holidays become much more commercial, stress. You know, we enjoy the festive and the religious times, especially now in this administration. You know, Linda and I are quite, we're kind of having a low stress Christmas. And, you know, we're not freaking out over the gifts and things. And Linda and I already gave our gifts to one another because we're like two-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Once we end up getting our gifts, we just instantly, here, here you go. and so we have no pressure on this absolutely we're just relaxing for this week and just having a mom over and family we're going to just make a nice meal and kind of keep it that way and the house is already you know decorated and we have our Christmas rhododendron out front that's our only Christmas light outside though so oh wow and you know it makes sense you know to have those quiet ones you know call up a family you know these types of things And we're kind of doing the same thing. But I remember, though, that you go through these phases with a committed long-term like you and Linda have relationship
Starting point is 00:17:06 where you can talk about what you might want to have for Christmas. Now, in my case, I was in such a rural place before I came up here over 30 years ago when Judy said to me, honey, I just want one thing. I said, what's that? I want to have a chainsaw. What was that for? Because we had a lot of trees out there. This was in a place that ultimately burned down in a horrid fire.
Starting point is 00:17:39 It was up in Kenwood, which was about an hour and a half north of San Francisco, where I had my clients in San Francisco. But in any event, these types of things, and we actually spent time cutting up far away. I was like an A. Blinken at that time for local people, which was just very enjoyable. All right. Now, we're talking about people of more modest means then and how they were celebrating Christmas in the Rogue Valley. Over time, as you mentioned, the stockings grew fuller, and then you had the oranges, you had candy canes. Ballpoint pens were once a gift that were treasured, right? It was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah, it really was. then you end up getting the electric lights, the stars, and all the rest of it. But let's take it then to the other extreme. What are the, would you call them the Hoy-Polloy or the, you know, the really, what are the very elevated people? How are they celebrating over it, Neiman Marcus? And, you know, that's something that you and I have done for 15 years, and these fantasy gifts always tend to change.
Starting point is 00:18:45 You get kind of an idea of what's happening in terms of, of the overall economy. Interesting enough, Neiman Marcus started back in 1959 with their fantasy gifts, and over time, the prices range up until, on their big ones,
Starting point is 00:19:06 a $20 million submarine in the year 2000. Okay, yeah. For the person who has everything, right, if the yacht is not enough, right? The yacht is not nearly. That's right. And then you also have, like, a $10 million racing stable.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That was in 2008. But then over time, as you advance closer to 2025, what we see now is less ostentatiousness. Really? I mean, yeah, which is really interesting. So the super rich are pulling in their horns a little bit on Neiman Marcus Christmas Eve here this week? No, that's a good question, Bill. think it's more having to do with what Neiman Marcus was coming up with, with its management. Because, for example, last year, the highlight was a 1.9 million 18th century Caliche, which is a horse-drawn
Starting point is 00:20:10 carriage that belonged to the Spanish royal family. But that was in place of the, which is the one I really like with you is the fantasy car. Well, that makes sense, though, because the fantasy cars are just all, they're all electric, and so they're kind of boring, right? Well, it's been changing that way. And for example, Bill, let's say just a few years back, two or three years back, you had the Barbie Maserati Trophio, which was for $330,000. Let me guess it was pink. Yes, it was the brand new Barbie, but if you go back about five years ago, it's my favorite. You had this supercharged Mustang for about $85,000. Now, there is another one, though, that I really like here.
Starting point is 00:21:00 For a half million dollars, you can have a four-hour portrait session by Annie Leibovitz, right? Leibowitz. And, of course, she was like the rolling, that big put all the rock stars on Rolling Stone, things like that, right? Didn't she do a lot of that? That's true. And I didn't really know her. I had to ask Judy, honey, have you heard of Annie Leibowitz? And she said, yeah, she is, you know, magazine covers and galleries. And for a half million, you get a four-hour portrait session, you know, for your exclusive type of picture, along with you meet with her publisher's editor. and you'll get 100 signed copies of a new book release, which is a little different. Hey, that's great, Dr. Powers.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Now, here's the one on Neiman Marcus, rather, if you're slumming it, right? If you're looking for something a little more, let's say, economical, down at the bottom of the barrel, $47,000 custom-designed saddle by Christian Lubouten of Christmas, of Paris, rather, or the $115,000 Mediterranean yacht trip for four. So there we go. That's the bottom of the barrel, right? And you know what's interesting, Bill, is that it really is, when I compare them, less ostentatious this year, because, for example, the trip for $490,000 through the American West is 11 days with yourself, your wife and two friends that goes through the American West,
Starting point is 00:22:34 which is, for example, Yellowstone National Park. Sure. You go to Utah. You go to the Canyon Point, Jackson Hole's Teton Valley. Yeah, but still $490,000. Something tells me you could schedule this on your own and just get a nice SUV and have a good drive yourself, couldn't you? Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But then, you know, over the last several years, you had really very more expensive types of gifts. Everything is relative and certainly beyond my budget. But on the other hand, the 11-day trip to the American West. Usually you've been having, you'd have yacht trips that are going through the most provocative places that are around overseas. And here you have good old America going through. Well, I'll tell you what, Doc, we visited the past and a little bit of the present.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Let's go into the Lawfare Central and more coming up afternoons. And, Bill, I should mention that the car for 2025, is the 135,000 Bugatti Baby 2, which is a 75% scale of the race car, fully electric. And you're going to love this. It isn't street legal. It's only intended for use in private roads and estates, and not recommended for children under the age of 14. Okay. So 135,000.
Starting point is 00:24:03 All right. Okay, Doc. We'll put it all up. We've got more to say, okay? Hang on. We'll break back with you here. Dr. Powers, more with him. On the present side, on KMED, coming up.
Starting point is 00:24:15 For service. Aillion Restaurant on West Main and Medford. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. It's 839. Have a holly, jolly Christmas. It's the best time of the new. Let's get right back to it with Dr. Powers. Hello, Doctor.
Starting point is 00:24:33 We have Brad standing by. One of the comment on something politically, since we're into the press. present side of things. So, all right, Brad, fire away. What's you saying? Merry Christmas to the award-winning Bill Meyer and the intelligent and talented Dr. Power. Good morning. Thank you very much. Thank you. Very much. Very Christmas. So, Dr. Powell, Bill knows this because he knows all kinds of stuff, but last week a really interesting report came out. The Democrat National Committee announced to all of their
Starting point is 00:25:01 members that they were not going to give them any of the details of the 2024 election. loss because they thought it could deepen internal divisions. Now, for context for that, what we have to remember is two numbers, 107 and 1.5. So $1.5 billion is the amount of money that Kamala Harris spent in her campaign, and it only took her 107 days to do it. And my question for you, Dr. Powers, is is this a harbinger of what's going to be happening in this election cycle for our friends on the left? are they going to have a big money shortage?
Starting point is 00:25:38 What do you think, Doc? Well, that's an excellent question. At this point in time, they don't have really a clear leader, and so the big fat cats, at least, and Bill, your thoughts also would be appreciated. It doesn't look like the fat cats are coming in, but they're already going ahead into the hinterlands to get the vote out. And my concern is that they'll eventually raise the money, but if they're smart, they'll go into all the individual elections to get, you know, control of the House. From there, we're going to have impeachments.
Starting point is 00:26:16 From there, you know, that's going to be just to go ahead won't win against Trump, but just to bog them down. Yeah, I would say, I would say, Brad, you know, to your question, and by the, I appreciate the call, I think that it would be counting chickens before their hatch to say that because of their, being money problems right now. That means that somehow Democrats have problems, hence they vote Republican. Would that be fair, doctor? And that's kind of where I was coming from. I think it would be, I think it would be unwise to think that it's kind of in the bag because I think there's a bit of blood in the water for the Trump side right now, whether it's fair or not. I'm talking about really where it will be in 2026. You have a thought on that? Yes, I agree. Because we've, we've seen all of the violent tactics being used against Tesla and Elon Musk. We see what's going on
Starting point is 00:27:14 with paid protesters. Yeah, say what you will. They're better fighters. I would say they're a better fighting group when their chips are down, I think. I could be wrong. I think they're meaner. Yeah. Well, that's what I meant by a better fighting group. They're meaner. Yeah. And that they are very goal-oriented. They don't care what they have to do as long as they keep their power because Trump has really, in my estimation, really, my friends, really come in and by going after what we're seeing in Somalia and Minnesota, where monies go from the Democrats into nonprofits that cycle right back. And that part is great, you know, going after the Arabella Network and such. And there's been real work done to defang that. But, you know, that doesn't necessarily
Starting point is 00:28:09 mean victory for the Republicans next year. That's all I was getting at. Agreed. Agreed. And I'm very concerned that the Republicans need to fight harder. And you're right, they've got to get the vote out. They got to get people marshaled out to get the vote out. Well, look at what's going on with the division, even within the Republican forces right now, look at Josephine County, frankly, as a classic example of what is going on within some of the Republican world. And what is going on there? Because, you know, we'll read the courier, and they have these headlines as to what's happening. What is happening there in terms of the commissioners? Well, the way it's looking to me is that there's almost like two groups of Republicans and
Starting point is 00:28:58 all kind of in a circular firing squad motion or movement right now. It's kind of the way I see this. And I may be oversimplifying it a bit here. But the circular firing squad is benefiting Democratic Party pushes that are looking for one way or the other, a much more moderate tone on the Josephine County Board is what they're looking for. I think that's what's going on. Okay. Yeah, that's agreed.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And what we're seeing there in terms of these internecine fights is the same thing that's being whipped up in other states, which is where my concern is in 2026, is the fact that the Republicans have got to get over the fact that they had a surprising win, and that Trump is not going to be running in 2026 nor 2028, and we need to fight, fight, and it's hard. And the challenge that I think Trump forces are going to have there is that what he's working on as far as economic activity, they're long-term payoffs, long-term. But voters are very short-term in their focus. How am I doing right now? Would you agree on that? That's true. That's absolutely true, and that's what's happening. And you see, a key thing is that all of us, when we're going in and shopping, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:26 no matter what it is, food or liquor or whatever it is, you have different high prices. And yet the sticker shock is still there, even though the great amount of that increase came underneath Biden-abama. I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, the part that I would find interesting, I don't know if you could look into this or not, price of oil is down. We're kind of a wash and oil. That's a good thing, you know, in respect.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Of course, a wash and oil also means an increase in oil later because then exploration and drilling stops. You don't have the money to invest in that kind of stuff. But is there any evidence that the price of oil is down because overall economic activity is down? See, there's a good reason to have oil price go down, and then it's also sometimes a foretelling of recessionary pressures in the world. Any thoughts on that? It's a combination, and incidentally, watch Landman on Paramount, the key things being, one, you're right. There has been a lessening in demand that we've been seeing that would come into oil and the spot oil. Spot has really come down.
Starting point is 00:31:47 It was over 100. It's down into the 50s now. And we're kind of at that point where you're unable to pay for fracking at that kind of level, wouldn't you say? Yeah, plus the fact, though, that the sweet spot is around 80. And with that, you not only have that, you have the fact that embargoes going on, you know, in terms of where you have Russia oil, where they're trying to go ahead and interdict these tankers. but I think you're absolutely right from what I've been reading and from talking with others that are very close to it, is that you have a lessening in demand. You have more supply because the fact that the restrictions from Biden have been removed.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And so you're having a situation where LNG, for example, versus oil, you have those coming into Europe and you have a worldwide type. of thing. It's a complicated area, but you're absolutely right. And so it helps in one way, but you have a problem down the road. All right. Now, oil may be down. Wait, what do you think about gold and silver? You know the gold right now is at 44, 35? Just, we're seeing another parabolic move. And same with silver. Silver right now, 68. It was at 69. So it's like 68, 50, 69 an ounce here. Yeah, and, you know, Bill, that's an excellent point, because when you take a look at the charts, you'll go back to the springtime when silver was around $25 an ounce, and now
Starting point is 00:33:29 it's heading towards 70, and you're just saying in such a short period. And now it went parabolic for a while a few weeks ago, and then it had a pullback and kind of a consolidation, same with gold, too. And then it almost seemed like it was building a new base is what it looks like it's doing. Well, that's true. But, you know, the thing is, is that if we go back to April, you have it sitting around $30 an ounce. And then all of a sudden, it was still, let's say, maybe around 40 when you got to August. And then all of a sudden, it's been, as you're pointing out so well, the parabolic move up to near 70 now. And so if you look at buying silver, the same way you buy stocks, which is dollar averaging and cost averaging, right now it's a type of thing where you might be better off to bring your jewelry in and take some of this windfall.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah, take the profit while it's there in case there's another pullback maybe. Absolutely. And so it makes it dicey. See, this is part of the thing that's so amazing. Because as we've seen stocks, you know, whether it's Dow Jones or the standard and poor is, my friend, where you really had quite an increase, and now it's been leveling off. There's a lot of reasons there year in, taking profits, taking losses against profits. But then now when you're getting into silver and gold at these elevated amounts,
Starting point is 00:35:06 I mean, remember, my friend, when the Hunt brothers cornered the market, what, 20 years ago? and they squeezed it up to around 55. Now, they got blown out there in that squeeze. The point being, though, is that what's different this time, though, is that silver is really under huge demand pressure because of the renewable energy world. Solar cells, big part of that, huge. Yeah, but you see, part of the thing is that, as you're pointing out,
Starting point is 00:35:36 is that the manufacturers of chips, So the ones that are in there are bright with their analogs, their computerized programs. And when they see where the silver market is going, us retailers are the ones that find out last because they've taken positions. I think, in my personal opinion, I could be really wrong, is that I would do a wait-and-see with silver heading to 70. And, you know, I'd like to see where it's going to form a new base there. I know the one thing that has looked really good right now, gold and silver miners, because that's almost like a leveraged play. It's like gold goes up 5%, the miners go up 10 or 15. On the other hand, if gold or silver goes down, the reverse also occurs, you know, leverage, a leveraged play.
Starting point is 00:36:24 You know, Bill, I go ahead not having an enormous amount of money, but I'll have like a little pocket change that you do. Yeah, that's what I'm doing too. I do the same thing. And I tried that with, you know, $100 worth, you know, about two years ago on gold and silver miners. And I closed that. I was easy to sell that position with like a 10% loss. And I said, no, I think I better stick to 3M or to IBM. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Well, they really fluctuate. Well, I know that probably my number one baby 401k. play has been the miners this year. You know, it has been just insane. What is going on. Your timing is perfect. I don't know if it's my timing or dumb luck. So are you going to be able to take some profit?
Starting point is 00:37:18 I think so. I think so already did. And just kind of, you know, keeping it in there for the time being. But it's like, where do you roll it? Do you want to roll it into Nvidia? Something tells me that AI might be ready to consolidate or maybe a little bit of that bubble. Air comes out of the bubble. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Well, I have a thing that said, when in doubt, talk to Jay Austin. Yeah, okay. Yeah, 482.37.15, all right, get your appointment. Talk about Dr. Powers this morning a little bit. Let me grab a call for you, Derek, Doc. Hello, hi. Who's this? Morning.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Hello? Good morning. It's deplorable Patrick, Bill, and Dr. Powers, are you? Am I up? Yes, go ahead. Hey, I just thought it might be a good opportunity for me to break the spell. that's just the kind of guy I am. I want to ask a question about this petition that we were signing,
Starting point is 00:38:10 and I understood that we already had more than enough signatures when I went down there. I just went down there to pile on because I like to do that. And then they, yeah, I love a good brawl. And they were ladies down there taking our petitions, and they said that we had actually they had four petitions to sign. And one of them had to do, I was completely unaware of, had to do with some kind of a reintroduction of this idea that you don't, you can't trap a mouse, you can't shoot a deer, you got to, you know, be worshipping all these creatures and run through your house. And there's a petition about that.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So my question is, how do you sign a petition against somebody else's initiative that they're going to try to put on the ballot? How does that work? How do you sign against it? Well, I mean, I signed the petition, but do we get to sign it? Have you given enough signatures? It means they can't bring it to the ballot or what? Well, no, if you have enough, it does go to the ballot. It's what happens if you get enough.
Starting point is 00:39:19 This was to go against that whole concept. In other words, that bad law proposed. Yeah, well, yeah, it would have to be, isn't it right, Doc, that, if you're wanting to change the hunting rules, but legislatively, because we changed them legislatively with a, with a ballot measure a number of years ago, like you can't hunt the cats with, with, with dogs, things like that. Correct, correct. This was something new, though, it was not even allow you to have cattle and cattle ranch.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Oh, oh, okay, yeah, that's, yeah, that's a, that's a different one. I probably don't have time to go through it right now because I got like five minutes left and I turn into a pumpkin. Okay? All right. I just wanted to, I just wanted to interfere with the flow there. All right. Well, thank you for interfering, all right? And it's a good subject. Okay. You're on with Dr. Powers. Hi. Good morning. Welcome. Hey, it's Todd. You mentioned the Hunt Brothers, and it brings back a little funny thing. I remember when the Hunt brothers were trying to corner the silver market, Congress brought Bucky Hunt in front of them and where they were grilling him and one congressman said, how much are you worth?
Starting point is 00:40:29 And he says, I don't know. And he says, what do you mean? How do you not know how much you're worth? And Bucky Hunt said, my father told me that if a man knows how much he's worth, he's not worth very much. I love that. That's great. Have a good day. Thanks, Todd. Well, Doc, Yeah, before we take off, the one thing I do want to mention here, probably the most important one, do we know when the birthright citizenship bill or the case gets taken up by SCOTUS? Do you know? They've already taken up. They are going to be going ahead and having laurels.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And I think that you have a chance for birthright citizenship, as Trump's saying, no, it doesn't, and is not part of our law, I think there is a 50-50 chance that you can have that if they do take a close reading to the 14th Amendment. On the other hand, if they're worried about like what happens with Dobbs, with mob rule, where you had paid protesters following them on vacations after that decision came down, we have that Chief Justice who just might be a problem. All right. We'll talk more after the first. We'll talk about everything else in the new year, 2026, Doctor. Okay, you'd be well.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Merry Christmas. Be well. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year to all of you. All righty. Where past meets present, Dr. Dennis Powers, Dennis Powers, Books.com. It's 857. Santa.
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Starting point is 00:42:28 Mazelan Mexican restaurant next to that, okay? Kathy writes me, Bill, when it comes to marijuana, maybe at the federal level, I'd point folks to Alex Berenson's book, Tell Your Children, it's the inside scoop about the problems pot can cause, mental illness, violence, etc. It's much worse than everybody might think. Alex's wife is a psychiatrist and told him to research it because she was finding disturbing violent trends in her patients who were users of it. Also, her fellow therapists were seeing the same kind of trending in their patients.
Starting point is 00:42:58 If you look up the book in Amazon, an excerpt an excerpt pops up and you can get the gist of the book. As you know, we experienced personally how marijuana changed our generally sweet son into a violent kid when he was in the throes of his addiction. Yes, addiction to pot. When he stopped using this drug, I told him I could tell when he used because I could no longer feel his heart. I appreciate that. And thanks so much.

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