Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - ABC News' Disaster Interview With President Trump, Rob Finnerty on MAGA and the Economy & Why Antisemitism Is Surging on College Campuses

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

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Plans vary. SMS available as ad-on. Visit MailChimp.com. Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News. Wednesday, April 30th, 2025, stand up for your country. Well, President Trump doing some press to mark his 100 days' office. The ABC News interview in prime time last night was a fiasco.

and I hate to criticize my peers unless they're dishonest. And Terry Moran, the interview guy on ABC, was not dishonest. But he had no idea how to interview Donald Trump. Because you can't ask open-ended questions to let the president filibuster and say the same things he said 10 million times before. He just can't. Now, tonight on News Nation at 8 p.m., we have a town hall, two hours. worth, I think, your time. I'm the bouncer, the co-anchor in this.

I love Cuomo's head being bigger. It's a great poster. I might even frame that. So anyway, you'll see, and we do have President Trump on the phone, kick off the two hours. Should be interesting. But you'll notice how I interview him, as opposed to everybody else, who I hate to be disrespectful,

but they're told what to say. So Moran had somebody write the questions for him. I probably had a few of his own, but that's not what these interviews are about. They're collective. Nobody tells me what to ask, and I don't tell anybody what I'm going to ask. Okay, so nobody knows. Big surprise. Anyway, the Trump Press tour hasn't broken any news so far, and I hope tonight it will,

because when he and I get together, it's a whole different dynamic. Talking Boys' memo this evening is analyzing that. that ABC News interview. Okay, so they begin, as they should have, with the tariffs, which is causing uncertainty and some precincts panic, and so far there are no deals. I do hear from very reliable sources,

but I'm not gonna report it as fact, because I don't use anonymous sources, that India and South Korea will be announced shortly. But, who knows? Once that happens, there'll be a domino effect. All right, so I'm pretty sure Japan's close. EU, I don't know. Okay, I don't know what they're doing.

Everybody's watching everybody else. Once those tariff deals start to get rolling, then Donald Trump's position in the polls and everything out should be better because the stock market should go up. Maybe it won't, but it should. Now, just today, Donald Trump, you know, remove some of the tariffs on auto parts. I can't keep up with it, and I'm not going to bore you with it.

Okay, if you want to know what he's doing from day to day, just Google President Trump tariffs. And then the latest, whatever he's doing will appear before your eyes. I just can't take the time because the man changes every hour on the hour. All right, so anyway, Terry Moran had an appropriate question for Donald Trump about the tariffs. People are worried, even some people who voted for you, saying, I didn't sign up for this. So how do you answer those concerns? Well, they did sign up for it, actually, and this is what I campaigned on.

I said that we've been abused by other countries at levels that nobody's ever seen before. We were losing $3 to $5 billion a day on trade. We were losing a trillion and a half to $2 trillion a year, not successful. sustainable. They would take an advantage of us like they've never. I could have left it that way. And at some point, there would have been an implosion like nobody's ever seen. But I said, no, we have to fix it. So your answer to the concern about the tariffs is everything's going to be hunky-dory? Everything's going to be just fine. It wouldn't have been if I didn't do this. I had a choice. I could leave it to have a nice, easy time, but I think ultimately you would have

had an implosion. All right. Now, the president believes what he wants to believe, and he wants to believe it's all going to turn out fine. But the truth is nobody knows how it's going to turn out because you've got China and a lot of other things that are intersecting. I, if I had to bet, I would bet on the side that Trump will be successful here, at least partially successful. Okay, but that's a risky bet. Nobody knows. The second one was about the immigration thing. Now, I'm going to break some news tonight for you right now. The reason that this guy, and I wish President Trump would say this, I wish I didn't have to, Kilmar Obrigo Garcia, this is the guy in Maryland who was swept up in the ice raid and deported to

El Salvador, okay? And the Democratic Party and the media has made him into a martyr. He's a bad guy. We have documented that on this program. He's a bad guy. But the Supreme Court has ruled that the Trump administration should expedite his return to the USA because he was in the system. This guy applied for asylum under the insane Joe Biden rules where anybody could. All right. The reason that the Trump administration has not brought him back yet is because they're compiling evidence that Garcia is MS-13. If he is, if the Justice Department can prove that, that might turn the Supreme Court to another ruling because you'll remember that President Trump signed an executive order designating MS-13 of Venezueling gang and the drug cartels in

Mexico as terrorist organizations. Therefore, the president's total control over what to do with any of them. He can kill them. He can order them killed. Now, it has not been established in a court that Garcia is MS-13. President Trump believes that he's got some tattoos on his fingers that say he is. The Justice Department is not using that tattoo thing in its petition against Garcia. They don't have it. The president wants to believe it, again, that Garcia's got tattoos, he's MS-13, but if the Justice Department had that already would have been out. It is not out.

That is extremely important for you to understand. The odds are that the tattoo thing is not going to be used in evidence against Garcia. That doesn't mean he's not MS-13. Remember, the Tennessee authorities caught him with undocumented aliens, in a van, and they let him go, I don't believe it, but they did. And that's not just an accident. He's a human smuggler. He's involved in this.

All right. So, of course, ABC, along with all the other networks and all the anti-Trump media, they have made Garcia into a semi-hero, rule of tape. Let me ask you about one man in one court order. Kilmer Abrago Garcia, he's the Salvadoran man who crossed into the this country illegally, but who is under a protective order that he not be sent back to El Salvador. Your government sent him back to El Salvador and acknowledged in court that was a mistake. And now the Supreme Court has upheld an order that you must return him to facilitate his return

to the United States. What are you doing to comply? Well, the lawyer that said it was a mistake was here a long time, was not appointed by us. Should not have said that. Should not have said that. And just saying you understand, the person that you're talking about, you know, you're making this person sound, this is a MS-13 gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife, and the wife was petrified to even talk about him, okay? But the court has ordered you to facilitate that. I'm not the one making this decision. So that is the key.

Trump says he's not making the decision. He's leaving it to his legal counsel. but he should have explained it the way I just did. If they can prove that Garcia's MS-13, he comes under the executive order of the terrorist group. And the Supreme Court would have to reverse its facilitate him back, or you would think they would. That's what's going on.

But President Trump does not explain that. I don't know why. All right. Third one is revenge, and we've gone over there. this and this is interesting and i think moran was perfectly uh in his rise to raise it go now and i'm asking the justification for going after people you don't like uh no no people that i think are dishonest it's not that i don't i don't even know most of them there are people that i think are angry no it's not anger these are people that i think are very dishonest i don't think

they're worthy of being able to go into top secret information. I think that's fine. And Biden did that with many of our people. But when you look at it, these are people that I don't think are worthy. That's my decision. It's not a question of anger. That was a very good answer. Because I would do the same thing, okay? If somebody attacked me, tried to hurt my family, and I believe was dishonest in the attack, and still held the position of power, like Letitia James, the Attorney General in New York, I go after them because they'll do it again, not just to me, but other people, misuse of power.

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very calient to get a Burlington Marks, Rebaugh Wow That was a very good answer by Trump last night

Of course you'll never get credit for it but it was So that was it for the interview If you didn't see it You don't have to watch it Those are the highlights

Again we'll be on tonight Their own interview on News Nation 8 o'clock And that's the memo Here's a very dishonest poll

This is fascinating It was printed in Axios It was a political website. And it was conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute, Public Religion Research Institute. Okay? 5,025 U.S. adults, the Institute says it polled. And the polling is genders 50-50, Democrat 32, Republican 32, Independent 35.

All that's fair. Here's question number one. President Trump is a strong leader who should be given. given the power, he needs to restore America's greatness, or President Trump is a dangerous dictator. His power should be limited before he destroys American democracy. Select one statement. The one about strong leader, given power, 44% agree. The one about dangerous dictator, 52% agree. Second question, President Trump has overstepped his authority by ordering a mass firings of federal employees across multiple agencies. Agree, 55%.

disagree 41. Okay. So that poll then goes out to Jimmy Kimmel, the Atlantic media, I had Huffing to Post, the Independent, Vanity Fair, Daily Beast, all left wing. And they go, oh, look at this American thinking the dictator. Oh, so I said to my crack staff, let's investigate this public religion research institute. All right. Where do they get their money to do all this? How about George Soros? Soros funds it through the Open Society Foundation, Carnegie Corporation, New York, another far left, and the Henry Luce Foundation, far, far, far left, and there's ten others. All their money comes from radical left foundations.

Is that reported in the poll? No. Oh, you know, you see the dishonesty that we live in here in this country right now? Okay, I'm glad you're with us because we're going to expose it all. Now, the other polls indicate that Donald Trump is losing support because of the terror. People are scared. And that is true, in my opinion. Okay, they're scared, and his job approval numbers are falling.

Again, my analysis is if the stock market goes up, then the job approval numbers will go up. But nobody knows if that's going to happen, or if prices are going to be lower or jobs, you know, there's a lot of companies now, and I know this to be true, aren't hiring anybody because they don't know how this is all going to come out with the tariffs, and they're not hiring. That's going to suppress an expansion of the economy. So, joining us now from New York City is Rob Finnerty, was his own program on Newsmax, 8 p.m., called Finnerty. Now, I think the show should be called McGillicuddy, just so you're not redundant. Hi, welcome to Finnerty on Rob Finnerty.

But McGillicuddy, it's another Irish guy, but he doesn't have anything to do with the show, so okay. Thanks for helping us out tonight, Rob. What about... Good to see you, Bill. Thanks for having me. I figure about 30% of MAGA people, no matter what Donald Trump does, they'll be fine with it. It was a great depression. They'll be fine with it.

They just love them so much. It's a cult. But conservative people or people who supported Donald Trump, do you see, do your reaction to your program and reaction to Newsmax Network, which is favorable, Donald Trump? Do you see any backlash? So I think there is, the tariffs, I think Donald Trump, the approach could have been a little softer, but softer touch in Donald Trump don't collide in the same sentence very often. Donald Trump and tidal wave, I think, collide more often. So the way that Donald Trump went about this, probably not the most effective.

And I think there is a limit to MAGA goodwill, even when we're talking about the 30% that you say would be behind Donald Trump, even if it was 1929 all over again. I don't know about that, but I do think that if the market continues to go down, look, the Dow is at, it's over $40,000 today. The S&P is way down from where it was after the election, November, December. The NASDAQ's right around $17,000. It's been a good week so far on Wall Street. If that continues, I do think that his approval rating goes up.

But I do think, Bill, there is a correlation between the five polls that came out on Sunday, and then Donald Trump marking his 100th day in office yesterday. And what's the correlation? Well, I think it was targeted. I think you look at the people that did the polling, ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, the Washington question of the United States. A lot of them come out on Tuesday, but I wouldn't argue with that. I mean, these are not organizations that want Donald Trump to succeed.

Everybody knows that. But the numbers are the numbers, and all five polls show a stark decline in job approval for Donald Trump. Now, he, on a few times that he's addressed it, I might get into it with him tonight, thinks it's fake news and he doesn't trust the polls. Do you feel that has any validity? The polling wasn't good. I don't believe, MRC, Media Research Center, came out with a study on Tuesday that found that 92 percent of the Trump coverage through his first 100 days has been negative. 92 percent. Now, You were part of the dominant media for a long, long time.

The legacy media is dying, they're not dead yet. If the coverage is 92% negative, that is going to impact the way people feel about Donald Trump and people in his administration. Come on, the coverage is 92% negative when he was running against Comlaris, and he won in a fairly convincing fashion. So I don't buy an after a second.

I think people are looking at their 401 case, and they're going, I'm shocked because they didn't, they weren't prepared. Trump administration did not prepare anybody for what might happen if you disrupt capitalism and slap tariffs on every country in the world. I didn't get a heads up. Did you get a heads up? What bad things might happen? Well, I would say to that, and I'm not a Trump sycophant, but I would say that we didn't

hear a lot from the dominant media when Joe. Biden was president. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's what about, look, Joe Biden. Well, but Bill, but Bill, I just, the reason I say it is because gas prices, inflation rates, mortgage rates, egg prices, grocery prices, aggregate, are down over the last 100 days. Inflation at one point was over 9% June 2022, the national average for gas under Joe Biden. At one point, the highest we've ever seen over $5 a gallon nationally.

I mean, those days are over, but we seem to have a really short memory if we're going to start criticizing this administration. That's what I'm saying. Every population in the world is a short memory. And it's even worse than you make it out. At the same time, all of these bad things were happening to the American people in the economic realm. Biden was saying, Bidenomics is working. How absurd is that?

And he was actually saying, oh, no, no, everything's fine. You don't believe your own eyes. Trump doesn't say that. Trump just says, I don't believe the polls and all that. And I think the polls are accurate. But they all, Americans don't, they're not introspective. They're not looking back. They're not historians.

There's no one, I'm getting hurt. I didn't, I wasn't prepared to get hurt. And now I'm mad, so I'm going to give him a bad number. That's what's happening, right? His approval rating is probably somewhere right in the middle. It's probably the aggregate of those five polls. We had Jim McLaughlin on Finnerty a couple nights ago, McGillicuddy, sorry. And he said that his polling has him just under 50%, between 48 and 50%.

And he's accurate. He's very good. John and Jim are good. And Bill, who really knows, but it is sort of semantics when it comes to these polls. After January 6th, 2021, Donald Trump was 31%. He's president of the United States today. So I don't know how much I really care what the polls say.

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On a midterm scale. One other subject. I can tell, because I've been in this business 50 years, when Donald Trump is in trouble with his supporters, not the detractors. He's always in trouble with them. By the television ratings, this is fascinating. So I see the television ratings. I see McGillicuddy every night, okay, and what you do and what everybody else does in the news arena. I see them every day. And when Trump is victorious on something, they surge. The ratings surge. When he's not doing so well, they go down

because people don't want to hear about it. And that's what's happening right now, that the cable news ratings are declining fairly significantly for Fox. Newsmax somewhat, but not as bad as Fox. And the others, MSNBC's picked up a little bit because people go in for Trump as the devil every night. But you can look at those numbers and almost take the temperature of Trump supporters.

Last word. Yeah, I would say, you're right stock market particularly two weeks ago we had a challenging week in the ratings and i think there's a correlation between yeah what was going on on wall street um and and people tuning in they don't want to hear bad news they don't want to hear mega bad news all right rob frinity you can catch them on newsmax uh at 8 p m Monday through friday appreciate it Rob thanks having thanks bill uh okay military recruitment very underreported story you remember during the Biden administration that none of the branches of the armed services were meeting their recruiting.

Overall, since Trump has been elected, our fiscal year 2025 so far, recruitment is up 28% and all of the services are meeting or exceeding what they want. Army is up 30% Navy, 42% Marines, 9%. Air Force 18%. Okay. So the fact that Donald, Trump as a commander-in-chief has apparently spurred military recruitment, but the media doesn't report it. Did you know that? If any of you knew that, and I'm not talking about the people that are embedded in the military, but just civilians, you guys, bill at bill o'Reilly.com, bill at bill o'Reilly.

Tell me where you heard it. Tell me where you learned that. I'd be very interested to know. All right, Trump mediation with CBS Paramount begins today. There will be a settlement, I predict. I predicted that for weeks. because Paramount, the guy that sells CBS to Skydance and I can't do it, unless the Trump administration signs off on it,

so to fix his in. Trump will get another $15 million for his library, but I'll keep you posted on that, okay? Now, here's an interesting culture story. Remember, Donald Trump's trying to do three things proactively. That's what I said on my message of the day on Bill O'Reilly.com this morning. He wants to change the economic culture, the capitalism, that we are practicing and that's gotten him into some trouble he wants to change the liberal

woke culture in america okay that he's kind of winning on and he wants to change immigration which is his big victory so two out of the three massive changes in a hundred days a lot okay uh as everybody knows um so now new york city has an annual pride march that That's for gays. It's their day. They marched down Fifth Avenue or Sixth Avenue, whatever it may be, and corporation sponsor. But now the corporations, some of them are pulling out of the gay pride parade. Those who said no more money, MasterCard, Pepsi, Nissan, Citibank, Pricewaterhouse, Comcast.

Comcast is MSNBC, NBC. They're pulling out. okay and uh they're afraid they're afraid if they fund the you know this kind of woke stuff um that trump might hurt him now i don't have any problem with the gay pride parade as long as the people parading don't scandalize children which some of them do to be honest here if you've been to that parade or seen on television some of those people they gross out kids no but the theme of being proud of who you are and there's a good thing okay and um but this shows you how cowardly companies are i mean really oh boy all anti-somatic reports

now this comes in the anti-deformation league the adl i've got my problems with this outfit um It's to their benefit that anti-Semitism grows. You know, it's a double-edged sword. They get more money when there's a bigger problem, but they are sincere in trying to protect Jews. There's no doubt about it, ADL. They go about it sometimes in a very heavy hand, though. So here are the stats.

Anti-Semitism incidents in the USA have reached a 45-year high. Okay? and they're growing about 5% each year, about 900% over the past 10 years. That's a big number. Last year, about 9,354 cases of vandalism, harassment, assault against Jews. It's a big number, mostly in the urban areas. And the ADL wants to get it out there. Now, why is this happening?

It's because the far left, which controls academia, many college campuses are controlled by far left zealots, and controls New York City's council, a lot of cities, San Francisco, Boston, Chicago, Baltimore, they're controlled by the far left. The far left 100%. You can't be far left if you don't hate Israel. That's one of the things. You have to be for abortion and promote it as a good thing. And you have to hate Israel. There's a few other things. You have to hate Trump. Okay? So when you have the far left hating Israel, particularly on college campuses, you're going to have those incidents rise. There's no doubt. That's why it's happening. So you are informed. Smart life. This is a riot. So the University of Nottingham in the U.K. at Sherwood-Farrest, Robin Hood, all that stuff. They did a study on Generation Z. That's 13 to 28-year-olds, all right? Generation Z.

And they find that many of them are struggling with telephobia. I love this. They're afraid to talk on the telephone. Why? Because they have anxiety. due to lack of visual feedback and they don't know what to say on the phone because they're texting all the time. So it kind of makes sense. So they have telephobia. Now, why did I put this in the Smart Life segment? Because there is a way to speak to people and many, many human beings, Americans, Brits, whatever, don't know what that is.

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you with you, my, I always try to control the conversation. They say, oh, we love your work or this and that. Nobody's mean. Nobody's rude. And I said, thank you very much. Where are you from? That is my opening question to almost everybody. Where do you live? Where are you from? Because when they tell me that, I know something usually about that place. Okay. So somebody says, well, I live in Manhattan Beach, California. I go, do you go to the shell back? Tavern? Oh, yeah. So immediately I'm forming a bond with who I'm speaking to, okay? Because I'm asking them, you do that. It's easy. Where are you from? Or if you're in the context of anything where they have a shirt, that's why we have the not woke shirts and the hats, because people

come up and go, oh, where did you get that? And start a conversation. Now, is that important? It is important. You want to be accessible to people because people can help you. And it's not a using thing. You just want to be accessible to your neighbors and people that you meet. And it's easy. It's so easy. But these younger Americans, Gen Z, they had no blank and clue how to talk to people. They don't look at it. I mean, my kids, you look them in the eye. You know, you're looking down here and a mumble, boom, bo, bo, speak clearly, speak up. but keep it light keep it light

and you know I can't tell you how easy it is and if you do it you'll have a better life that's what the smart life segment is all about talk of research pretty good 2,000 employed Americans about their money

now I don't believe this first stat and I could be wrong 74% of those working America are living paycheck to paycheck. I don't believe that. The reason I don't believe it is because a lot of us who work, we have money taken out of our pay to go into 401ks and other things, insurance, whatever it may be. I don't believe that 74% of American workers don't have enough money to save a little bit. I think the number is 50. 50% of Americans are in dire shape

financially. Okay, but that's a number that talk of research coming out. 73% of Gen Z, again, 13 to 28, are looking for other jobs. And 70% of millennials, 2944, are looking for other jobs. They want to change their jobs or their careers, mainly because they're not making enough money. That's good. That's good. You know, when I got fed up with a job, I got another one, a better one. that's a good thing. Now, sometimes you can't. I could move. I was single. So I could go. And but sometimes you, you know, you got kids and a wife and a house, but you can always look for another job, a better circumstance. Don't just sit there and take it. But you got to be smart. Stay in history three years ago, April 30th, 2020.

Naomi Judd committed suicide. Ms. Judd, of course, country music star with her daughter. Wynonna roll the tape. And Mama, he's crazy. He's crazy over me. So I knew and they know me Judd and I liked her a lot. She was a very nice person. And whenever she came to New York, she lived in Tennessee outside of Nashville. You know, we get together for lunch.

And I really, really felt that for her because she had tremendous emotional problem. She was on medication, all of that. At 76, finally she had had enough, and that was it. And I always think to myself, could I have done any more? And the answer is no. I mean, I corresponded with her. When she came to New York, you know, we had nice conversations. And it was an amazing story. I mean, she was born at the poverty in Kentucky. And rose out of that became a nurse and then a fabulous singer, and then her two daughters are in show business, as you know, and they are very successful,

and she did it on her own. Naomi didn't have anybody helping her, and I really respected that. So three years ago today, she died, but we remember Naomi Judd. Okay, and we'll be back with what we're going to do tomorrow in a moment. All right, final thought. So I don't know what's going to happen tonight on News Nation,

anything could happen. It's not easy to control this crew. You're going to be about a hundred people in the audience, a guest all over the place, me Cuomo Stephen A, and Carville, and you name it. And then I got Trump on the phone. My God. All right, but I'm the bouncer. I'm pretty much in charge of quality control here. So it's not going to be a bore. And then tomorrow we'll take out the highlights and we'll go through it on No Spin News. Okay. That very Fair enough. So we hope you tune in tonight, 8 to 10, Eastern Time News Nation. Thank you very much for watching the No Spin News and listening on our hundreds of radio stations across the country, many of whom, many of which are taking the two-hour town hall on a radio. So we're going to be all over the place. And we will see you tomorrow.