Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Are the President's Tariffs Working?, Court Blocks President Trump’s Effort to End Birthright Citizenship & Petition Launched to Save Colbert’s ‘Late Show’

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

Tonight's rundown: Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Thursday, July 24, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Bill argues t...hat President Trump’s tariff policies are heading in the right direction but are being overlooked by the media. A look at how much the federal government is set to invest in building the country’s largest immigration detention center in Texas. An appeals court has blocked President Trump’s attempt to restrict birthright citizenship. There’s a petition to keep Stephen Colbert on the air. Bill explains what people are missing about this story. What we know so far about ex-Biden Chief of Staff Ron Klain’s grilling in the House GOP’s cover-up probe. Final Thought: Bill recaps his conversation this morning with Donald Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:52 So about 8.30 in the morning, I got a call on my dopey cell phone from President Trump and We had a half-hour conversation about pretty much everything And I'll tell you about it in a final thought at the end of the program certain things. I can't Report because it's personal between The president myself known him for 33 years now something like that. I Was and am very concerned about his health. He's got a real problem with a swollen hand because he shakes hundreds of hands a week.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I don't shake hands very rarely anymore. I use the fist bump and I tell people, look, wherever I go people know me and they come up and a lot of them want to shake my hand. Others don't. And I just go, I give them the fist bump. Because if I didn't, I'd have swollen hands. And I never got COVID. And one of the reasons is that I didn't shake hands. I was doing a fist bump back then. But anyway, I'm being diverted. But I was concerned, I am concerned, about President Trump's health, because he's almost 80 years old here. The guy's got more energy than me. And that is saying something. I can't keep up with him.
Starting point is 00:02:19 So we talked about his health for a while. We talked about his mental and emotional state, because he's getting pounded now with this Epstein stuff. And it's really cruel. And we're going to get into this a little bit today. What the corporate corrupt media is trying to do is tie Trump into Epstein in some kind of illegality. That's what this is all about.
Starting point is 00:02:41 They're not going to prove that, the mainstream press, I don't believe. But it doesn't matter to them. They want to create the perception that Donald Trump did something very, very, very wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. And that's what all of this is about. I'll prove it tonight to you.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And it's when you're a human being and you're absorbing that kind of punishment on a daily basis, take it toll. So I spent some time talking about that and then we got into policy and again I will tell you about that in the final thought. Talking points memo is on the economy which is by far the biggest most important story in the country and it will affect you directly. What happens in the US economy, every one of us. So there was good news this week for the Trump administration, a big Japanese trade deal.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And the deal is basically President Trump negotiated a reduction of the 25% threat and tariff to 15, and then Japan committed $550 billion to invest in the USA. Why is this good for the USA? It will generate hundreds of thousands of US jobs, expand domestic manufacturing, secure American prosperity for generations. Also, the Japanese are going to take American cars much more
Starting point is 00:04:01 so than they are now. When I was in Japan in May, we didn't see any American cars. Lots of German cars, no American cars. So now that's going to change. So this is a good thing for America. The other trade deals that Trump has made so far are Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, UK, and a partial deal with China. but China is a big one.
Starting point is 00:04:27 EU is coming up and China is coming up. Those are huge. We're watching it very closely. In addition, AstraZeneca, which is a pharmaceutical company, is based in the UK, Cambridge. They're going to build a huge plant in Virginia. $50 billion are investing in the USA. Any other companies that are building here, Project Stargate, Apple, Nvidia, Micron, IBM, Taiwan Semiconductor, Johnson & Johnson, all
Starting point is 00:04:59 pledged new facilities and a lot of money invested in the American economy. I mean this is huge. This is huge. But you would never know it by the reportage of the press. So last night on the CBS Evening News they spent two minutes on Epstein, zero seconds on the Japanese deal. On ABC news, which basically is a weather forecasting outfit now Four minutes and 23 seconds on Epstein Okay Zero on the Japan deal nightly news NBC Three minutes 20 seconds on Epstein nothing on the Japanese deal or the economy
Starting point is 00:05:41 So the three nightly news shows totally ignored the much bigger story that the Trump tariff policy is now working. And the stock market was up yesterday 500 points. If you're 401Ks and you have all of that investment, I told you to hang on. Remember that when it was wobbly earlier this year? Okay, you're not doing well.
Starting point is 00:06:08 No guarantee. Things go south, that thing can come right back down. Now you'll remember at the time of the tariffs, I said, I didn't know what was going to happen. But the hey Trump brigades, oh, oh, Armageddon, roll the tape. This is not what the American people want. They want him focused on costs, and he's not doing that. I expect, because it's still in a way early days, that we're going to see further pressure and more significant pressure on inflation as a result of the tariffs over the remainder
Starting point is 00:06:44 of the summer and into the fall. Donald Trump has made a lot of noise and he's reducing the noise perhaps a little bit, but all of this to my mind doesn't change fundamentals very much at all, which is that the U.S. economy is not in good shape and Trump's tariff policies are not going to solve the problems. Well, that guy works at Columbia University, of course, but he should be fired. His name is Jeffrey Sachs, and he's
Starting point is 00:07:18 a director of the Center for Sustainable Development. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. All of those people, reporters should be going there, well, wait, you said this, well, what do you say now? But no, of course not. I mean, they're not going to do that. So, summing up, the economy will tell the tale
Starting point is 00:07:37 in the midterms in 26, and that will, of course, define the Trump administration going forward. Epstein will disappear into the netherworld unless there's something else that we don't know. And the dishonest press has not learned any lessons at all from the CBS debacle, from the Seppanopolis debacle, from the Colbert debacle, nothing. They continue to do what they do in a dishonest way and that is the memo. All right, John McLaughlin is a pollster
Starting point is 00:08:11 independent, he works for Trump, but he does other things. The Tea Party, I didn't even know the Tea Party is still around, but they are. They hired him to do a poll on immigration, okay, and it was a thousand general election voters, people who voted in the last presidential election and McLaughlin broke it down on how many people showed up at the polls so thirty seven percent Republican thirty three Democrat thirty independent So it's a good sample question number one It is neither fair nor right to allow a particular group of illegal immigrants to jump the line and be awarded the benefits of legal status and a potential pathway to US citizenship before hundreds of thousands
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Starting point is 00:09:32 President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't. So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2pm East Coast every day. Make sure you tune in you can find us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. 13%. All right, that shows Americans are a fair people. Second question, agree or disagree? Everyone who has entered the country illegally, regardless of what additional crimes they may or may not have committed, while in America and regardless of their employment, should be deported. All undocumented migrants should
Starting point is 00:10:18 be booted. Okay, agree 56, disagree 34, don't know 10. Now that reflects a higher Republican sampling in this poll. I think it's about 50-50 on that one. All right, last question. Would you support or oppose federal governments requiring an addition of simple identifier on real IDs to indicate whether you're a U.S. citizen or not? Support 65, oppose 22, don't know 13. OK.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I mean, look, you can't deport all of the undocumented. You can't. And I think Congress has got to recognize that fact, make new immigration laws, because Biden just blew them all up. And let's enforce those laws. So if I'm President Trump, I'm saying, look, this is what we're doing now. We're rounding up all the criminals and some non-criminal migrants and we're deporting
Starting point is 00:11:12 them. I'd have a little more clarification on the non-criminals. But I want new laws that are sane and fair. And that shifts it into Congress a little bit. No reason why Congress can't pass new immigration laws. None. All right. Now, Texas has been awarded a $1.3 billion contract by the Trump administration to build the country's largest immigration detention center, Fort Bliss. That's right outside of El Paso. They got a million acres down there.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I've been down there. That's some kind of place. So they're going to build it. They have an airport there, quick deportations, and this will be the center of American deportations, not only in the Trump administration, but going forward. The Trump administration, as you know, does not want birthright citizenship.
Starting point is 00:12:08 The law says now, and it's in the Constitution, that if you are born in the USA, you are automatically a citizen. The Trump administration wants that done away with, and they are losing. The U.S. Court of Appeals, 9th Circuit, California took up a case, two to one ruling. Both liberals voted to keep the birthright. The judge that was appointed by Trump voted against it. This happened yesterday, but this is not going to change. The Fourth Amendment is not going to be overturned, and this is going to stay. I'd go up to the Supreme Court, but they'll rule as I predicted, roll the tape.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Another controversy involving President Trump, he wants to end birthright citizenship. He's not going to be able to do it. President does not have that power. I said that on December 11, 2024, about a year and a half ago, because if you read the Constitution, it's clear there. In order to overturn that, you'd have to get two-thirds of the states and two-thirds of both houses of Congress to vote to throw it out, and it's never, never, ever, ever going to happen. Okay let's go to the corrupt
Starting point is 00:13:28 media. So Stephen Colbert, you get a lot of publicity and I've been doing a bunch of radio shows this week we did Hannity and that's on BillO'Reilly.com, WBC, Sid Rosenberg, that's on BillO'Reilly.com. Clay and Buck I did this afternoon. And it always comes around to Colbert. And some of the conservative hosts are angry that Colbert is being deified, praised. And I'm going, it doesn't matter. He's done. He's through.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He's not going to last till May. They say it'll be shown till May. It won't. But the progressive change campaign is now circulating a petition. And they're actually having demonstrations in support of Stephen Colbert. So they had a demonstration in New York, and nobody showed up.
Starting point is 00:14:22 All right, a few dozen people showed up. And they were paid, I'm sure, to show up. So it's not like there's a groundswell. And the progressive outfits, since they got hundreds of thousands of signatures, okay, fine. But there is something more important here than just booting Stephen Colbert off the air.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Okay, and here it is, roll the tape. But with Colbert, you see what, what sunk him, um, was not just his vitriolic approach to Trump, but he censored his program. This has not been put out there by anybody. You could not get on his program unless you hated Trump. Boom. So I was on late nights, all of them, 75 times. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:11 All right. I think it's me and Robin Williams with a guy. Did it start in the Corston era or Letterman? No, Letterman. Wow. Letterman, Leno, Kimmel, all of them. But I did actually appear with Colbert way, way back one time. But Colbert would never invite anybody who didn't hate Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And that was the crux of the problem. Because when a corporation like Paramount CBS uses its airtime to promote a political candidate Kamala Harris, alright, or a political philosophy liberalism and doesn't give any time to the other side, then you're running up against all kinds of First Amendment issues. And it's not just Colbert. Now, I told you this. I got Confronting Evil coming out on September 9. We're going to do a media push like we always do.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And then last September, we had Confronting the Prison. So we wanted to get on to CBS Morning News, Jane Paulie, on Sunday. Because they give you a lot of time and sell some books. Miss Pauli wouldn't put us on and I emailed her directly, okay, didn't even consider it, okay, and then we tracked it. We tracked her program for a year. One non-liberal guest in that slot, Newt Gingrich, that's all, okay, and the only reason the speaker got on there was because of me pounding
Starting point is 00:16:47 this Sunday morning program at CBS. The whole apparatus is set up to deny traditional conservative Americans a voice. I mean deny them a voice, not just denigrate them, not just mock them. Shut them out. Censor them down. Now, I don't care whether you hate Trump or not. Why do I care? All right? I report honestly. I know what the man is doing. And then you can take it or leave it. So I get along with Jon Stewart. He invited me on his program. I hope he does it again. Bill Maher invited me on his program. I hope we can work that out. Okay. And a number of liberal people say, okay, you can come on. I was on CNN for presidents. They invited me on. They put me on like one in the morning, but that's all right. At least I got on. But not CBS.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Slam that door. And that didn't used to happen. You remember on 60 Minutes, which openly rooted for Kamala Harris, openly rooted for her. That's what that story was about, by the way, with the interview and all that. You remember that Mike Wallace and Don Hewitt, who ran 60 Minutes, I was on twice. Twice. Once you're killing Jesus and once because I'm so effervescent or whatever. And it was no problem. They didn't agree with me, all right, but it was lively back and forth. That's the way it should be. But now they have started the censorship.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And that's what you have in totalitarian states. And that's really the essence of Stephen Colbert. He can't stand up against me. You guys know that. I mean, Letterman, he tried, he saw what happened. It was very lively back and forth. John Stewart, that's a legendary association I have with him. Because those guys were fast, I mean, both of them.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I had to be on my A game. Go Bears not fast. All right, I mean, he can't. He sits with me and debates presidential politics. It's over. So he's not gonna do that. But CBS allowed him to run that show in an unfair way and that's really the crux of the matter Sky dance so CBS is gonna be sold
Starting point is 00:19:17 To this outfit sky dance and we understand that's gonna take place in October It's quick understand that's going to take place in October. Let's quick. Skydance is a much more conservative company. So they said to the FCC, Federal Communications Commission, we're going to knock out all our DEI programs that CBS put in or at least we'll reevaluate them, which means they're going to knock them out. Okay, because they want the Trump administration to okay this huge deal. The federal government has to okay it, and it will. Now once SkyDance gets the property, everything's going to change at CBS.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And I think that's going to have a ripple effect on NBC and ABC. Now if you say, well, I don't really care about the media, I don't watch it, okay. But believe me when I tell you that if the Democratic Party loses... Book club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday. Quiet night in on Friday. It's good to have a routine. And it's good for your eyes too. Because with regular comprehensive eye exams at Specsavers, you'll know just how healthy they are.
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Starting point is 00:21:01 listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. The corporate media, it is gonna be severely damaged. Severely. And if Skydance is fair and starts to bring on some Republicans or traditionalists or conservatives, whatever it may be. That's gonna hurt the Democrats too. That is the essence of the story. Not personalities, not any of that. Now I'm gonna do a my YouTube thing I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:21:38 get into this a little bit more on YouTube. We'll tell you about that in a moment. All right now Candace Owens. Now, I know her, never interviewed her, very conservative woman on social media. She said that the first lady of France is really a man. Wow. Roll the tape. So we will start from the top here with a photo of Brigitte Macron, real name Jean-Michel Trogeneau. OK, look at this. OK, that person that you are looking at on the right is not a woman. OK, why don't you just take a second, take a sip of water.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I mean, what is he going to say? It could be possible that like the entire state would be involved in protecting the secret. Yes, that is what I have been telling you. And at great cost to myself, obviously. All right, so the great cost is she'd be sued, Candace Owens, by the Macron's in Delaware. Why Delaware?
Starting point is 00:22:40 Because that's where Candace Owens has her corporation. And we don't know how much money, but they were asking for punitive monetary damages. And Candace Owens is gonna have to defend, it's gonna cost her a lot of money. Now, is the First Lady a man? No. Okay, so this is not even a close case.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I guess Candace Owen is going to have a lawyer say, well, she's being satirical or something, but you can't do this. You can't do it. And so we'll follow the case, the McC's, and on their end the French government's paying for the lawsuits, so they're not out any money. And uh, I don't know. Crazy world, right? Okay, Ron Klain testified in front of the Comer House Oversight Committee. He was asked to testify in front of the Comer House Oversight Committee. We don't have specifics, but he did not take the Fifth Amendment, answered their questions in a respectful way, I'm told.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He was chief of staff for Biden from January 21 to February 23, two years. Then he left and a guy named Jeff Zients took over. He was chief of staff in the last two years. Both of those guys know everything about Biden. Now, do you think Clinton's gonna go in in front of the committee and raise his hand? This is closed door now, okay? Yeah, we knew he was senile.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah, we ran the government. He didn't know what he was doing. You think he's gonna say that no Everybody gets hopped up about this stuff You know, I it'll come out the QA will come out But I can't imagine That claims gonna go in and say yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we Big fraud and we lied about it.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He's not. But it's a story. We'll follow the story. Smart life. Now this is a very important thing for you. So we all have to eat. The problem in America is that we want to eat fast and thus fast food. Everybody knows that. good for you but
Starting point is 00:25:06 we're on the run and with this and with that and we don't have time to be in a kitchen whipping up good food and on and on and on and on. So you go to the grocery stores and they have processed food there. Okay, there's stuff that you throw in a microwave and you heat up you put in the oven, whatever it may be. Well, it's bad. And it's killing people. And this is the RFK Jr. thing. And he's right about this, RFK Jr. I've heard from him in a while, but he should be out there pounding his drum. So the cognitive market research outfit says that processed food industry, $1.3 trillion a year, we're just grabbing this stuff off the shelves.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I've done this, okay? And the processed foods basically take out the nutrition of the food and put in all kinds of things that so the food won't spoil and taste better and dumps all, whatever maybe, okay? So it's bad for you. And 70% of the US food supply is processed foods. 70% because we don't have time to go to the marketplace and get the carrots and this and that.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And so we're just running, running, running. All right. Now here are the worst foods. And I eat some of them and I'm going to tell you which ones I eat. So potato chips, corn chips. I had some corn chips last night. Cookies, crackers, baked goods, candy, ice cream, breakfast cereals. Now, I eat Irish oatmeal maybe three, four times a week. That's not processed food. Okay. But everybody dumps the cereals on there full of sugar. Can't be more than 10 milligrams of sugar. Packaged bread. That means all bread, packaged bread. That means all bread, unless you're going to the marketplace, right? Soft drinks, we all know that, fruit juices, sugary fruit juices. I get the orange juice that's like cut in half on the sugar, I don't know how they do it.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Frozen meals, forget it, burgers, fries, hot dogs, sausage, bacon, deli meats, canned vegetables, soups, can't eat anything. You can't eat anything. Mayonnaise, ketchup, salad dressings. Ay yi yi. So I've cut down the amount of food I eat and I try to pinpoint it. Okay, so instead of the chips I have carrots, a little blue cheese dressing, just a little bit more celery, that kind of thing. I'm trying hard to just cut it down. Carbohydrates, that's what I got to cut out of my diet. But you should know, which it's impossible though.
Starting point is 00:28:06 It's impossible. You can't go to the ballpark and not have a hot dog or a cheeseburger once in a while. I mean, come on. You can't be eating kale. I hate kale. Now, I like Brussels sprouts. I'll eat asparagus. I'll eat broccoli with a little drizzle of something on it, chopped up, salads are alright. I always get the dressing on the side, so I'm not dumping the dressing on there. So you can be smart about it. But be aware, you know, and younger people don't think they're ever going to die.
Starting point is 00:28:40 They don't. Because it's not on the horizon, you know, at their age. It's an eight-year-old's garbage. And then there are people who are way overweight, and the reason they're overweight is sugar and carbs. That's it. So what I do is every day I write down this is what I'm going to do. And when you think about it, creative things come into mind. Tonight, I'm going to have some chopped clams. And I think I'm going to go for chicken quesadilla. Now, that's dicey, but it's not horrible.
Starting point is 00:29:22 All right? But I want you to know that I'm in this with you. Smart life. The Sand History July 24th 2005. Wait a minute. I skipped the big one. I skipped the most important story. Let's back up. Bill O'Reilly's YouTube channel has passed a million subscribers. Yay! In record time, by the way. We just started this. Hey, Mike Baker here, host of the President's Daily Brief podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:58 If you want straight talk on national security, foreign policy, and the biggest global stories going on of the day, going to quote it for you. your podcasts also on our YouTube channel at Presidents Daily Brief. So there's a press release out today. I'm going to quote it for you. There it is. Okay, one million YouTube subscribers. It's youtube.com slash Bill O'Reilly. It's easy, free.
Starting point is 00:30:38 That's the most important thing. Here's a press release part of a quote. Cable news icon, bestselling author, historian, commentator Bill O'Reilly has officially surpassed 1 million subscribers on YouTube. A major milestone as he celebrates his 50th year in journalism. Riley, who dominated primetime cable news for decades, now commands a growing digital audience. His YouTube channel draws millions of views each month." Unquote. And I have to credit my staff, because, you know, me, I'm a Luddite.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But we position this thing in a way that's totally different than the no spin news. We're giving you a totally different commentary twice a week. And I'm not using the F word or the S word. I'm not doing all this stuff. I'm not smearing anybody. I'm not calling women men. We are giving you really incisive analysis about things that are important in your life. Here's an example. Roll it. Last summer at the height of a bitterly contested and hugely consequential presidential campaign,
Starting point is 00:31:53 a foreign adversarial power intervened in an effort to weaken our democracy and to influence the outcome for one candidate and against the other. That foreign adversary was, of course, Russia, and it acted through its intelligence agencies and against the other. That foreign adversary was of course Russia and it acted through its intelligence agencies and upon the direct instructions of its autocratic ruler, Vladimir Putin, in order to help Donald J. Trump become the 45th president of the United States. Not one shred of evidence. And they've had two special councils.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Okay. Everybody looking at it. Biden was president, okay? Everybody looking at it. Biden was president, all his people looking at it, not one, not one piece of evidence. That Putin did anything concrete to help Donald J. Trump win the election of 2016. Okay, and then I go on and on and that commentary is gonna be that this is the last day
Starting point is 00:32:53 when a brand new commentary tonight is gonna be on the collapse of the corrupt media. And it's all because of Trump. Trump did this single-handedly, collapsed, the corrupt media in this country, both actively and passively. So that is my YouTube bonus commentary. Again, youtube.com slash Bill O'Reilly.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It is free. Thank you all for subscribing. My god. You know, a million. And we'll have two by, I don't know, this time next year? Maybe before. Stay in history, July 24th, 2005, Lance Armstrong wins his seventh consecutive Tour de France.
Starting point is 00:33:39 All right? Considered the best bicyclist on earth. Here's what he said after the win. Go. You should believe in these athletes and you should believe in these people and I'm a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live and there are no secrets. This is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it so, viva la Tour, forever. All right, well, there are secrets because the US Anti-Doping Agency found out that Armstrong was taking drugs, okay, and that he was a ringleader of it. So he was banned from all international and USA competition, and his life blew up.
Starting point is 00:34:23 He denied everything for a long time, but then he went on Oprah and said, yeah, I did it in 2013. So remember that 7th victory was 2005, 20 years ago today. It took him eight years to cop to what he was doing. Now Armstrong today has a couple of podcasts and that's pretty much it. So that happened. I don't know Armstrong never met him. Can't be doing, he can't be cheating. Cheating is... no. Back with my conversation this morning with Donald Trump. Okay so President Trump doesn't really give you a heads up when he's gonna call. Last night, he called me 30 seconds before
Starting point is 00:35:15 the Cuomo News Nation hit was set to begin. And I said, Mr. President, I'm going on TV in 30 seconds. Literally. Can I call you back? You know, he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. So I couldn't get him last night. So he calls me this morning. And the first thing, as I mentioned, top of program,
Starting point is 00:35:38 was about his health and how he's doing, because he's my friend. So what am I going to ask him about himself first? And then I asked him, he asked me, remember, I don't volunteer things. I don't call the president. I had to call him back because that was courtesy, but I don't call him and bother him.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And I don't suggest things to him when we're talking. And listen,, ask me. My job is I'm still a journalist here. But when President Obama asked me stuff, I answered honestly. When George Bush the Younger asked me stuff, I answered honestly. Biden never asked me anything. So first thing was China.
Starting point is 00:36:19 China is big. And I have the best sources in China, in the American media by far. There's nobody close to me. That has sources in Beijing. And I told them what was going on behind the scenes. They said, I can't divulge it, but it was, this is where they are, this is what they want.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I do believe the president will visit China in the fall. I hope he does. But there is an opening there. There is. Now Russia, I don't know anything. I don't have any contacts. Driving me nuts. Everybody in Russia is so terrified that they're going to get poisoned or shot or thrown out
Starting point is 00:37:04 a window. I can't get anything. So China, I know everything. Russia, I don't know anything. I'm trying. And then we talked about Epstein. And I gave the president my view of how to handle it. Pretty much what I told you guys.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Don't talk about it. Get Bondi, the Justice Department, in a methodical way to explain what's going on. But then, you know, I went to Trump's wedding with Marla Maples. And Epstein was at that wedding. I didn't know him, I didn't know who he was. There were tons of people at the wedding. But when you know the history of New York City
Starting point is 00:37:50 and that all these people intertwined, all these wealthy people, I wasn't wealthy. Trump just liked me. Comic relief, I guess. But I understand the culture. And just because you knew somebody doesn't mean you were involved with some kind of nefarious activity. Come on, that's just insane. Okay, so I gave him, you know, look, this is what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And he told me, boy, I didn't send that card and I didn't, okay. Okay. Guys never lied to me 33 years okay yes so you know so anyway that was my morning and I'm privileged to be able to talk to the President of the United States no matter who it is yeah I respect the office that much I just say myself, how did I ever get to this? Kid from Levittown was painting houses to try to put himself through college. And now I'm talking to the presidents of the United States.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Only in America. Believe me, if I was in France, I wouldn't be talking to mackerel or his wife who Not even no, I'm not gonna do it. All right. Thank you very much for watching and listening across our radio syndicate To the no spin news big column on Sunday We'll see you again on Monday

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