Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Assessing the First Year of Trump’s Second Term, Catholic Bishops Leader Criticizes Deportations & Milwaukee Judge Convicted for Helping Illegal Migrant

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

Tonight's rundown:  Talking Points Memo: Donald Trump remains the most controversial president in history. Bill argues that the focus should be on his accomplishments, not his demeanor. A look into the president’s schedule this week. What the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said on CBS News’ Face the Nation regarding deportations. A federal jury convicts Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan for helping an illegal immigrant briefly evade ICE agents. Final Thought: Don’t miss tomorrow’s final show of the year! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Visit unsmoke.ca. Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News Monday, December 22nd, 2025. Stand up for your country. Well, this is a slow week. Everybody's getting ready for Christmas, even the pagans. I love that. Second and last show.

before the year and tomorrow we'll wrap it up with you so we've gotten more than a hundred questions that I will answer I can't answer all of them but I'll answer a lot of them about the country the world this program whatever you want and it'll be an interesting 42 minutes now my opinion 2025 was a mediocre year nothing much outstanding there, Donald Trump's first term of his second administration. He was the energizer buddy, and he did a lot of good things. But the demeanor situation is also in play, and that is the subject of this evening's talking points.

So the president remains the most controversial figure in U.S. history. There has never been another president, and that includes Nixon, Bill Clinton, the whole crew. It's come close to President Trump in controversy. And he is the most famous human being in the world and the most dominant force in the world. It's a lot to lay on one human being. I don't even know if he sees himself as a human being. The guy works nonstop. He's got a pretty good vision, in my opinion.

But then he's prone to outbursts, and he does things that millions of Americans find objectionable. I don't, and it must be a gene I have. I am more interested in accomplishments than demeanor. But I understand those who disagree with me. I understand that you want a president to behave a certain way, and often Donald Trump, goes against that. Now, he believes it works for him. So he believes that his blunt assessment of the world mobilizes his supporters. And that's why he doesn't. There's a method to the madness to use a cliche. So let's examine this in a very methodical way, all right? No emotion. Here are Trump's

main accomplishments in his first year. Sealed border. Criminal Alien Crackdown, Gaza Seasfire, lower gasoline prices, crime suppression in Washington, D.C., stable unemployment, inflation, high military recruitment, lower taxes for workers, higher defense spending from NATO, robust attempt to stop drug smuggling into the United States. Now, there are others, but I don't think anybody could quibble with that. All right, those are accomplishments. And the criminal alien crackdown is the most controversial because non-criminal aliens get caught up in those sweeps. And we're going to have a segment on it in a little while. Now, still unresolved, and this is vexing for President Trump,

are the following. Tariffs. We just don't know. whether his vision of a brand-new manufacturing economy is going to come true. Ukraine, that's Putin, and we have no power over Putin at this point. National debt continues to rise. China trade undefined. Chicago murder rate, that is the fault of the governor and the mayor out there.

High beef prices. Now, that's a big way. one. Because a lot of people like their steak and burgers and high insurance rates. And that's even bigger than the high meat prices because it's draining working Americans. So those are unresolved. Now, I believe that Donald Trump knows about them all. He's trying, but they have not been rectified. Now, I think that's a fairly honest assessment. But I get a fairly honest assessment. But I get emails every day from friends and people around the world. And they just don't understand Donald Trump. And I do. I understand him. I try my best. I'm not in business to defend the president. That's not

what I do. All right. I watch him like I watch all powerful people. And he's not a perfect man. He's not. Come on. Everybody knows that. But again, it's just constant drumby. Oh, he did this. He's so terrible. It's boring. It's boring. He's not going to change. Now, if you believe the demeanor should be placed above accomplishments, that's you're right as a voter and an American. Absolutely. Now, because he doesn't have to run again, Donald Trump's governing is a strong man, less compromise than he had the first time around. Again, he wants things done. He wants him done quick. And he's willing to go into court, and he's willing to slug it out. I don't have many problems with that as long as you can justify your position.

And then there is the revenge factor. Yeah. These people try to destroy his life. Comey, Letitia James. Yeah. And now he says, all right, you know, you're going to go after me and you did this wrong. I'm going to go after you. People go, oh, it's revenge, revenge, or revenge,

are you. Retribution is a better word than that, in my opinion. So the final thing, and I know, and I've actually said this, going back to Joe Biden is useless. However, it is perspective. And Biden didn't say much in his four years. I mean, very rarely, you know, he wrote. he read what they wrote for him.

But he wasn't having a gaggle or answering questions. He wasn't doing any of that. And he didn't have any accomplishments. You know, I've said this time and time and time and time again. Give me one. You know, a couple of things dribbling. You know, he lowered drug prices. And Friday, Trump announced a deal that,

but we have to see it first, that drug prices will come down. And Biden did that a little bit. But that's it. It was ridiculous. It really was absurd. What a waste of four years. So, summing up, I think Donald Trump is now going to pivot to his legacy. He wants to be recognized one of the great presidents. In order to make that happen, let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the market. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold.

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Test him. I don't know if he can. I don't know if he can. Okay? And then he's got to tamp up and explain to we the people why he do is what he's doing. So, for example, Venezuela Maduro is done. It's the matter when he's out of there. And, but why?

You know, I submit to you that most Americans have no idea who Nicholas Maduro is. I'd like to see more explanation. we talked about it last weekend, that rapid response team. Because if you're going to go after a presidential legacy, you have to get on the record why you're doing what you're doing. Ronald Reagan was very good at that. For the last three years in his second term, that's what they were concentrating on.

Reagan's legacy, they did a very good job. Very, very, when I say they, he had a bunch of guys that he depended on. And if you read my book, Killing Reagan, we walk it right through it. But Reagan, no, is very, very interested, going down in history as a successful president, so was Donald Trump. And that's a memo. Okay.

So the president's down in Mala Lago, Palm Beach. And he has an announcement today with Secretary of War, Pete Hegasett. And also he's bringing in some naval commanders. So I think this is about the tanker seizures, but no details yet about what he's going to talk about at 430. But, as I said, Maduro is toast. And you know his garden, Maduro? Not his own people. Cubans.

Cuban Secret Service Guard. Does Cuba get free oil, almost free, from Venezuela? Very small price. Beginning tomorrow, we're not seeing a lot of scheduled events, but you know, the president's going to get bored playing golf and then you're going to go in and make announcements. And we'll be able to, if you go to at Bill O'Reilly, that's my Twitter handle at Bill O'Reilly.

I'll be on it, because I'm around. I'm not traveling or anything like that. I'm going to be around watching the state of the union. So I will kick out a bunch of tweets at Bill O'Reilly. The president is supposed to be in Palm Beach until January 4th. That, of course, could change. Now, one of the most pathetic things I've seen in quite some time is this hysteria about Epstein, who is one of the most vile human beings who's ever lived.

And he's dead now. So the Trump hate brigades trying desperately, and I use our word literally, to link Trump to Epstein over and over and over again. And it's just all, it's tedious. Now, I'm paying attention to it to see if there's anything new, but I'll go back to what I said to begin,

there was any evidence that President Trump was involved with Epstein and anything untoward, the Biden administration would have put it out there. Because remember, he was running for re-election until he booted the debate, and then Kamala was in. So, of course, they would have put something out. So, but it's every day these people won't. stop. And I'm talking to CNN, the networks, the New York Times, the Washington Post, they will not stop. Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Oh, my God. All right, there is a legitimate two-sides controversy to the migrant deportations. So in one of the worst dereliction

as a duty in the history of the United States, President Biden allowed. I estimate about 15 million foreign nationals in this country when they shouldn't have been allowed in. And out of that crew, maybe 2 million were criminals, are criminals. So President Trump's trying to round them all up. Criminals live with non-criminals.

And it's a whole subculture. And so sometimes that people have not committed a crime in the United States, although they are here illegally, I know, all that's a crime. Okay, but it's a civil action. We're talking about hardcore criminal actions here. They get swept up. Now, the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Archbishop Paul Coakley, okay, he is now taking the lead. because Pope Leo, you know, is very bullish on protecting migrants. Roll the tape on Coakley. The deportations that are that are happening around the country can it's

instilling, as I said, fear in a rather widespread manner. So I think that's a That's something that concerns us all, that people have a right to live in insecurity and without fear of random and deportations. I think we're believers, of course, in due process. They don't have a right to live here, with all due respect, Archbishop. They have no right to live here. See, this is where you guys are making you mistake. All right? They are here, really.

legally. Now, I sympathize with them. I've given money to help them. I don't want anybody out the street. I don't want kids hungry. And I'm a Christian, and I'll help them. But don't tell me they have a right to be here. Now, they do have a right to due process, because under the Constitution, you set one foot on American soil, you have due process. But in order to be deported, you've got to get a judge, a sign, and order. So it does go through the system. So this argument is never going to be resolved, ever, because the humanitarians are going to say, it's not right. We can't be brutalizing people who are poor people who are here, and that's that. But they don't have a right to be here.

So when you say that, you know, I just go, ooh, because I am a fan of charity. And I do want to protect the poor and innocent. But these people aren't innocent. They're not guilty of horrendous crimes, most of them. They just trapes across the border for a better life. But by tracing them across the border, they broke amelioration law. And they were helped by the President of the United States. What a mess.

Okay. In Milwaukee, a judge, Hannah Dugan helped an illegal alien, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, 30 years old, Mexico, went a warrant out for battery, and ICE was grabbing him. But the judge took Mr. Flores Ruiz out the back of her courtroom to try to help him escape from ICE who were in the front. of the courtroom. Now, the ICE agents caught Ruiz, been deported. But now the judge has been convicted, okay, of obstructing a felony. It's a felony obstruction of justice. So she's done as a judge. She's out. She could get five years. She won't. She won't get any jail time. they'll give her probation or house arrest or something, and she's going to appeal. But that was a fairly sophisticated case. And, I mean, the judge, Dugan, I had to know, can't have anarchy lady.

You can't. You're a judge. So she got hers. Smart life. I never figured this out because I'm not a social media guy. I don't spend hours and hours and hours trolling TikTok and wasting my time there. Now, if you do, if you think it's a fun form of recreation, I'm not scorning you. It might be a fun form of recreation.

I'd rather stay in the real world myself, but that's a matter of opinion. Now, in the social media, there is a subculture, and it is political. So you got crazy lefties and crazy right-wing people. And they throw stuff out. Something get very popular and make a lot of money. Because sponsors say, hey, look at all these people coming in to see what X says. So we'll buy some advertising.

But it's still provocative. It's not there for any fact-based reason. Okay. So over the weekend, it was a Turning Point USA, that's Charlie Kirk's organization, a Merifest. And at that, were a bunch of provocateurs, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Megan Kelly, people like this. And Carlson and Shapiro were yelling at each other. Okay, Shapiro thinks Carlson's an anti-Semite. Carlson thinks Shapiro is whatever he thinks.

I don't even know. And then Kelly injected herself into this. Somehow I don't even know. Now, I understand the amusement factor here. These are big names. These are people that you see and hear. And there's a lot of people following this. But we don't.

Why? Because it doesn't mean anything. it's not news not advancing anything it's personal personal beefs okay so even when i was slugging it out with the likes of al frank and despicable human being and the others there was a reason i was slugging it out with them okay and it was a fact-based reason but this is more recreation and the smart life is you got to put it into perspective it's okay if it amuses you it's okay if you see it as a form of entertainment but don't take it seriously because it isn't serious now the players involved at them there's money on the line so it's

plenty serious for them but for the outsiders looking in us this is just you know like sumo wrestling here who can have a blast the other guy out of the ring smart life this is an outrageous story and i'm sorry i have to report it so there are two churches progressives one in Washington State and one in Colorado. They're having a drag Christmas special where guys dress up like women. Okay, one of them is Foothills Unitarian Church in Fort Collins, Colorado.

Now, this is spitting in the eye of all Christians and Jews. That's what this is. Okay? And the show contains, quote, adult themes, and magical queers will slay their way to Bethlehem. Okay, sacrilege, it's an insult. These people are...

Now the guy who runs this is named Sean Neil Barron. He's a reverend. Anybody can be a reverend. You can get by mail, you can be a reverend. man you know Mr. Neil Barron I'd have some words with you I don't like this at all and you're wrong the other one is eminous table in Seattle it's affiliated with a Lutheran operation oh what's the matter with you Lutherans because this guy should be booted out for doing this awful the drag church yassification of ebenezer scrooge

so most christ father forgive them for they know know what they do that's what jesus said on the cross when the romans centurions were killing him, but these people know what they're doing. They know they're defiling Christianity and the birth of Jesus. They know, and they're gleeful about it. What do we do? We forgive them? Not me. Now, if they ask for forgiveness and took all that garbage away, then I probably, I would forget. I have to. But not now. You're lucky. You don't live near you, boy.

I'd give you some hard time. This day in history, December 22nd, 1864, William T. Sherman, the Union General, takes Savannah and sends President Lincoln a note that says, quote, I beg to present you as a Christmas gift, the city of Savannah, 161 years ago today. Now, here's the question. Was Sherman a war criminal or a hero?

So I wrote killing Lincoln, and the Sherman thing is very complicated. So William, Victor Davis Hansen, brilliant man, says, quote, had Sherman not taken Atlanta, Lincoln might not have been reelected president. And he lost his army in Georgia and negotiated people. would have been a real possibility. So even though Sherman attacked civilians, burn her houses down, scorched earth, Hanson said it was necessary.

You had to do it. And Lincoln supported it. Now, others say no. The Civil War Times says that a court probably would have sentenced Sherman to be hanged as a war criminal. Okay. And then there's another one, St. Mary's University School of Law, Jeffrey Atacott.

In the minds of many Americans, particularly in the South, the name, Ween and to come to Sherman, immediately is associated with almost heinous array of war crimes. War crimes. So Sherman did. He burned everything. civilians matter but at that time

in history Lincoln felt it was necessary boy it's a tough one really is so that happened 161 years ago today Sherman

seized Savannah now have you ever down in Savannah area beautiful town so it's Charleston and a lot of Civil War sites well worth visiting down there. Okay, back in a moment with the final thought.

Friday went to the next 70-sickering game, and Philly won. Tremendous game. It was really well-played. So I'm sitting there in my seat with my son, and then all of a sudden I get my phone blows up. You were on TV? I said, I didn't shoot any free throws, did I? You know, no, no, no, no. So here's what everybody was referring to.

Roll the tape. And Bill O'Reilly, who is a crazy Nick fan and knowledgeable Nick fan. And O'Reilly, one time asked me, is there any way you can arrange a dinner with Clyde Frazier? So I went to you, and I said, would you like to have dinner? And we went to have dinner with him. And he just asked you question after question after question. And he is such a huge Clyde fan. I'm still looking for that check, you know.

That dinner, the dinner was something special for him that he got to spend some time with you. Yeah, I appreciate him. He's always on my cage. Clyde, Clyde, Clyde. What did it good guys? Very nice. Now, Clyde Frazier, if you don't know, is one of the best point guards in NBA history. And he's a bright case.

He's 80 years old. He's from St. Croix, Virgin Islands. and he's right on it. He is so good. And that was Mike Breen. I think the best play-by-play guy in the country for basketball. And they are a tremendous team.

So, Brin lives near me on Long Island. I give a hard time every time I see it. I say, you tell Clyde, that's what Clyde was referred to, that, you know, boom, boom, boom, boom. Anyway, very nice of them to do that, I thought. Because, you know, in certain circles, I'm not Mr. Popularity. But we had that dinner. It was so fun because Clyde played with all the big boys.

He played with Willis Reed and Bill Bradley and all the legendary Nick teams. And he was the guy that moved the team up and down to court. And, you know, basketball is involved. Now they just bombed, three-pointers, three-palmers. But back then it wasn't. There was a lot more skill set back then. And I know the game. I didn't play it, though.

I played CYO basketball, but I couldn't jump. Irish guys can't jump. And that's true. So I played football, baseball, and ice hockey. But I didn't play basketball. But I was always intrigued because the athletic prowess to play basketball, particularly in the pros. I mean, these guys are.

hitting shots, you're just a mouth open, boom, okay? And it's a grueling, fast, moving game. It's not like baseball, and I love baseball, but, you know, baseball's like, all right, you know, and they're spitting and, well, no, so spitting in basketball. So, just up and down a corner. But anyway, Breen and Frasier are good guys. So one more thing before we leave, we're going to try to get a line on what this Trump announcement is with Hegsef and the naval officers. I will tweet because we tape this a little bit before that is scheduled. And so when I find out what it is, and I almost positive it's about these tankers. So what President Trump is trying to do is strangle Maduro and Venezuela, cut off all their money,

because a lot of that oil winds up in Iran, Cuba, and bad places, and even helps Putin. So they're knocking these big tankers. They've got three of them. And I think that's what this is all about. I think. Could be wrong, of course, because I'm not privy to what they have announced. Anyway, I hope you'll be with us tomorrow.

It will be a fun show. Thank you for watching tonight. I'm Bill O'Reilly, and we'll see you on Tuesday.