Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Bondi's Brawl in the Senate, Duane “Dak” Kees Weighs In on National Guard Chaos in Chicago, James Comey Pleads Not Guilty & Anti-Trump Hysteria

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Tonight's rundown: Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, October 8, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Yesterday, Attorney General Pam Bondi appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Bill explains why this hearing was a total waste of time. Former U.S. Attorney and National Security Law Firm Attorney, Duane “Dak” Kees joins the No Spin News to discuss whether he believes the federal government will file charges against Chicago police officials. James Comey's lawyer entered his pleas of not guilty. Will he win this case? A wave of anti-Trump hysteria is sweeping the nation as National Guard troops enter liberal cities. Final Thought: Join Bill tomorrow for an exclusive Confronting Evil Q&A special! Submit your questions now at BillOReilly.com/live. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, October 8, 2025, stand up for your country. So I met Yankee Stadium last night, the Yanks and a Blue Jays playoff game. And before the game, they play the Canadian National Anthem. the Blue Jays are from Toronto, and some morons in the stands boo. More than a few. Wasn't overwhelming, but it was audible. I'm sending me and going, what is wrong with you people?

Why would you boo the National Anthem of Canada? What good does that do? Canada doesn't have any to do with us. I mean, yeah, Trump wants to annex it as the 51st state. We know that's not happening. They'll come to some kind of trade deal. The Prime Minister Carney was here yesterday, and, you know, they weren't brawling. So why are you booing the Canadian National Anthem?

It's disrespectful. And all people in Canada watching it, you know, come on. It's the same thing when they boo the National Anthem, right? So I just sat there, and I think foolishness is on the ruck. in America. It's not as bad as evil, which is why I wrote confronting evil, because that's definitely on the rise. But foolishness is annoying. And then the Yankees won the game. It was a very interesting game, by the way. By the way, I'm sorry. I'm going to find myself. By the way, his head is now said on news agencies about 30,000 times a day. So I'm sorry

to say it. Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest. Talking Points memo is about the brawl in the Senate yesterday. So before former FBI director James Comey was indicted, we'll tell you about that in a couple of minutes. The Senate Judiciary Committee, that's the big oversight committee, invited Attorney General Bondi to testify about Epstein, and now there's accusations against Tom Holman, that he may have taken a bribe, you know, stuff that the Attorney General deals with. Now, Ms. Bondi is a smart woman. Not a long conversation with her in September, and she knows the game, that the Democrats on

the judiciary committee are going to try to use her to embarrass Trump. They don't care about information. They know that any accusation against anybody can't be discussed by the attorney general because we have due process here. You're innocent until proven guilty. Holden them in charge with anything. Is there an investigation? Maybe. Maybe the FBI is looking into it. I don't know. But they're not going to tell you. in case Holman is innocent. Why would you besmirch him? So the Democratic senators know that, and Pam Bondi knows it, so there's no answer to any question. The Epstein thing is ridiculous. It's just absurd. There are rumors and innuendo, and the Attorney General is not going to

answer those things? Get mired in that swamp? Who would do that? All right. So, Ms. Bondi went in to the hearing with written put-downs. That's the best word. Of the senator, she knew we're going to use these tactics. Roll of tape. Senator, I would be more concerned if I were you when you talk about corruption and money that when you pushed for legislation that would subsidize your wife's company. You know, Senator White House, you sit here and make salacious.

remarks once again trying to slander President Trump left and right when you're the one who was taking money from one of Epstein's closest confidence I believe I could be wrong correct me read Hoffman who is with Jeffrey Epstein on multiple occasions and the senator sitting right next to you tried to block the flight logs from being released I wish you love Chicago as much as you hate President Trump and currently the National Guard are on the way to Chicago. If you're not going to protect your citizens, President Trump will. First, Senator Padilla, you have gone on for over five minutes, and I wish that you loved

your state of California as much as you hate President Trump. Would be in really good shape then because violent crime in California is currently 35% higher than the national average. All right, so it was amusing to watch the put-downs and then the replies and all. Did it do anybody any good? Did you learn anything? No. Right. Now, it was just like an insult derby.

And that's what politics has descended into. Now, the last time that the Justice Department was actually given a referral, a criminal referral, from the Senate, was six years ago. So these hearings are just a total way. waste of time. And they play to the cameras knowing that the internet and the cables will pick up the stuff to be outrageous as possible. It's just really, it's wrong. It's just wrong. They're not representing they being on both sides, but mostly the Democrats because they hate Trump so much. And, you know, look, I want some problem solving here. Stop with this nonsense. sense. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war,

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I don't know why the Justice Department doesn't do that. On the other stuff, you know, again, I don't know what Holman did or didn't do, but you don't besmirch him and try to ruin him on innuendo. And Bondi was right to avoid those questions, and that's the memo. Okay, so the National Guard is on the way to Chicago. The fascinating story. First of facts. Governor Pritzker is the villain here, and I can back that up. So he'd been in office for six years.

During that time, 4,000, mostly African Americans, 80% have been murdered, and Pritzker has done nothing. What could he do? He could call out the National Guard. Now, President Trump has federalized the Illinois National Guard, so they're going to be called out. But Prisker could have done that three, four years ago. But he didn't do it. Why not? No one knows.

Okay? No one knows. 4,000 murder. Pritzker sits there for six years, does nothing. Now, Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, is taking credit for the decline in crime in the windy city. And that's a legitimate point that Johnson has. Okay? Johnson is racist, in my opinion.

He's blaming everything, you know, black people is. All right. But violent crime has come down a bit since Johnson's been in office. I don't know why. Don't know. Okay. But it has. So acknowledge that fact.

But you still, the national average of violent crime, Chicago's way above it. Way above it. You can't just say, we're not doing anything because crime's coming down a bit. No, you got dead bodies in the street. Last week, 29 people we shot. 29. One weekend. Wasn't even a holiday weekend. Now we got Columbus Day or Indigenous Day, whatever day, coming up three-day weekend. I mean, you'll probably have 40 or 50 shot. Critsky Kid, no. Johnson. Oh, it's coming down. All right, fine.

So the National Guard, it looks to me, like about 500 of them, some from Texas, some from Illinois. and they're going to be protecting ice agents on immigration raids. That is the reason they're there. And you know, as we reported yesterday, that the Chicago Police Department isn't protecting the ice agents. We'll play the tape in a moment. You know that. And that somebody's got to protect them. If the Chicago cops aren't the state troopers aren't going to do it, who's going to do it?

National Guard has to do it. And the Guard is there, to be honest, to tamp down a crime in the poor Southside areas, where these people, drug gangs are shooting down people at will. Now, they're not going to say that because you're not supposed to use the U.S. military to enforce local and state law. They'll say, we're protecting ice agents. So we played this yesterday, but it's worth repeating. 10 cars full of protesters approached three ice agents on Saturday. A shootout occurred.

One of the protesters was shot. Of course, the Chicago police knew about it almost immediately, and units were on their way to the scene. And then the dispatcher said this. Roll it. Again, per the chief of patrol, we have all the units that for 999, Chief of Trove, said all units clear out from there. We're not sending anybody over to that location. 62, we're going to clear out as soon as we can, Scott. We're, like, blocked in over here.

So we're going to do the best we can to get out of here as soon as we can. Chief of Patrol is a guy named John Hein, H-E-I-N. I'd charge him with obstruction of a federal investigation, hindering a federal investigation. You can't do that. He may get off. Okay, due process, he'll have a defense, but I charge him. Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. I'd like to tell you about an important new book. Leland Vitters, Born Lucky, a dedicated father, a grateful son, and my journey with autism.

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needs to be looked into. My number one concern bill is that police were en route. This was not something where, you know, maybe they didn't have the resources or they were responding to a mass casual. They were going across that. They were going. They were going. I would also like to know, I would also like to know, you know, the ICE agents on the ground.

did they know police were coming? I mean, were they told, hey, help is on the way because if they were told that, they would have probably acted differently, you know, knowing that reinforcements are coming and then to pull them out en route, it's extremely disturbing for many reasons. I would like to know exactly this Mr. Hines, Officer Hines. I'd like to know, you know, comments that he made beforehand and afterwards because obstruction really goes that there's a mental state there that you've got to intentionally be trying to obstruct. His actions seem to indicate that. There's a few more details that I would like,

but I will say this bill, even regardless of a criminal, you know, a criminal referral, I think there might be some civil issues here. I mean, you know, there is 4318 USC, 1983, which means that, you know, if someone acting under color of state law, you know, violate your rights, you know, they can be sued. think there might be a lawsuit here. You know, these people had the right to be protected by the police. They had the right not to be fired upon. And here it is the police had the ability to intervene and chose not to. There might be a similar to. They would have to do that as private citizens. But remember, there was a woman shot. One of the protesters were shot. She's in FBI custody right now. So it's the Chicago police department's jurisdiction. And they wouldn't answer

a shootout when we got a bullet. Come on. And I tell you, I want to add to that, Bill, because this is not a question of a state or a municipality saying that we're not going to enforce federal law or we're not going to aid federal law enforcement officers. What you heard in that clip right there is these are state officers, police officers, who are refusing to intervene in state action. But they were ordered, though. They were ordered by. They're superior, don't go there. And you know, that guy didn't do it on his own. Okay, that chief of patrol, he's got people above on the mayor, the police chief.

And a police chief tried to say before we got the tape yesterday, counsel, this is just for your information. Before we got the tape, and we got it almost first, the police chief went out and said, oh, no, no, we were answering the call. No, you weren't. Right. So I think that you're right. There has to be an investigation. FBI should be in there. Power, politics, and the people behind the headlines. Our country's back. We're really back. Candid conversations with the people making the rules and changing the game. Can you see yourself as president one day?

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has a duty to respond. And so to have sent them, had the manpower, had the resources, they were in route, and then to call them off, I mean, you're now violating state law. So it's just a Yeah, but the state will never, the state will never know. No, no, absolutely. They were It has to be a federal situation. One final question for you. The Trump administration obviously is moving to guard into Chicago, L.A., Portland, Oregon, but there's a political component to this as well. And the political component is that the President of the United States doesn't want to tolerate

anarchy and lawlessness. Will that work for or against the federal government if any cases do go into court? I think it's going to work for the federal government. I think the president has the absolute right under the Constitution to federalize National Guard, to send them in, to protect federal property. And that's just one aspect of it, just to protect federal property, absolutely. But then if the crime gets to the point, if the anarchy gets, to the point that the president sees the need, that he's got to go in there and restore restore law. He's got that, he's got that authority to do. There's some, there's some

checks he has to go through. But ultimately, this has been tested. It's gone through the courts and the president does have the power so long as he follows the law and goes through the correct procedure. Yes, he can send the National Guard in to restore, to restore justice, to restore peace and law. Right. And Pritzker, the governor, Illinois, could have done that years ago, didn't do it, nobody knows what, correct? Absolutely. And in fact, even when the president federalized the National Guard and sends them in, they can do it in a cooperation agreement.

There is a way for a cooperation agreement so that Pritzker will still have command and control of the National Guard from his state, but will act in relationship and cooperation with the federal government. President Trump actually asked, Pritzker to do that. He requested in writing that Pritzker cooperate with the feds and to get this murder rate under control and to guard ICE agents and federal property. And then Pritzker said, no, again, no reason, you know, our militarization and all that. All right, Counsel, thanks very much. I appreciate you time. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you for having it. It's a big story. This is a big story.

And now it's in Pam Bondi's hands. It'll be very fascinating to see what the Attorney General is going to do. Comey. All right, so he enters a plea. He didn't show up. His lawyer entered a not guilty plea. He's charged with basically lying to Congress, which was investigating leaks.

to the New York Times about the phony Russian collusion story. All right? So Comey said he had never anything to do with the leaks. His deputy McCabe at first said Comey did know about him, but recanted. So this is a tough case to prove. If guilty, Comyn get five years in prison, that'll never happen. Okay. But he could get convicted.

Here's what the Attorney General needs to convict Comey in Virginia. She needs, the prosecutors need, at least two FBI agents in the Washington, D.C. headquarters to testify against Cuomi and say, yes, he knew, okay, these leaks were going on and wanted them to happen or did it himself or whatever. That's tough. If they get that, Comey gets convicted. If they don't, and it's hearsay, hard to. But in my opinion, and I have nothing to basis on, I don't think President Trump cares.

He just wants to put Comey through the ringer. But I could be wrong about that. Now, there is growing anti-Trump hysteria. We all know it across the country. And I talked about it with Sean Haney on his radio program today. Haney and I disagree. Haney thinks that the hysteria is going to grow and grow and get worse and worse and worse. I think that we're at a point now, particularly in a Chicago situation, where Americans who are not ideological, who are just regular folks, they vote, but they're not involved emotionally with ideology.

They've had enough of this progressive left. They've had enough of the anarchy, enough for the violence, enough. And they're going to turn against the progressive left. That's my opinion, that the progressive left has peaked. And now, Pritzker, I think he's through. I think he's done. How that manifests itself, I don't know. But his reputation?

My God. Anyway, the hysteria is growing, and the progressive left, the leftists, they don't see that they're overdoing it. So we're in three sound bites. And the first one is Oregon Attorney General, Dan Rayfield. Go. He's weaponizing the Department of Justice. He's normalizing the military.

He's talking about rigging our elections to maintain power in November. He's talking about cutting down on the free press. This is not America. These are the things you expect in a different country. These are things we cannot tolerate. And again, I say this a lot, but we as Americans cannot allow ourselves to become the frog in boiling water. We need to give voice to these issues and push back as often as we can. Well, the frog disagrees.

Ringing the election. What do you mean? And the MS now anchor just sits there. It doesn't say, well, what do you mean about rigging the election? What does that mean? Yeah. That's, they can say anything they want. And for the second one, and I'm sorry to inflict this upon you,

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There is crime in American City. But the way to deal with it is get the funding that you need for police, get the training that you need, and work with local officials. This is a pretext to stop the next election. That's what I think it is. I would say it might also be a distraction from the hearing that's going on right now about the Epstein file. There is no hearing on the Epstein trial. No hearing. And Bayhar, I just, Bayard, I just, I would, I would, this is a pretext of,

stop the next election. And how might that happen, madam? Now, they've reached the point of Mad Magazine. Remember Mad Magazine? Alfredine Newman? What Me Were? It was a satirical magazine. If you don't know it, Google it. That's what the view is. It's Mad Magazine now. They say just anything. There's hearings on Epstein. No. There's no hearings. Because Epstein is dead. and his cohort is in prison. So here it's. His rumors, innuendo, smears, defamation, all that. Okay, I got a final thought about a fun event coming up tomorrow, back in a moment.

Final thought, tomorrow Thursday, October 9th, right? If you are a premium or concierge member to Bill O'Reilly.com, we will be on are live at 9 Eastern time, Josh Hammer and me taking your questions about confronting evil. There will be a lot of fun. Now, I'm going to give you a sample, just so you know what we're getting into here. So Robert from Londonderry, New Hampshire, writes to me, there's so much detailed information, sometimes like you are in the room observing the situation. How do you did you guys get such personal details about each person and those around them? Well, Hammer is the researcher, so I'm going to kick that over to him, but I can tell

you because I know. We don't use secondary sources. That means that most writers, particularly in history, they read other people's books, and then they take notes from those books, and then they put them in their books. No. Don't do that. We do primary source, which means we go right to the site. Now, the biggest break we ever got was the Internet because there are letters and eyewitness

reports, criminal reports, all of that. Now post it on the Internet, you just have to know how to find it. And Hammer will tell you. All right. So, for example, when we wrote killing Jesus, there's very, very little written on a history of the Nazarene. It wasn't like their reporters following them around. Spies followed them around. Okay? Roman spies, pilot, Jewish spies, the temple authorities in Jerusalem. them. Now, they weren't coordinated because the Romans and the Jews hate each other, but they followed Jesus around because these crowds were so big when he went to speak, thousands of people, and the spies reported back to Pilate or the Sanhedron authorities. So when Martin

Dugard, who was now out in his own, writing his own books, he went to Israel. And I convince ins the Israelis, let us go into the archives and see the original material. That's why killing Jesus is such a phenomenal book, not a religious book. That gives you a little bit of insight. It's like detective work. When you write history from a primary source point of view, you're a detective, you're ferreting out stuff from people who were there who wrote it down. Letters. Okay, eyewitness testimony in courts, stuff like that. Anyway, that was a very good question from Richard in New Hampshire. We got tons of them. Thursday, tomorrow, October 9th, Eastern Time. You got to be a concierge or a premium member to join us. Another incentive for you

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