Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - BONUS: Bill O'Reilly on President Trump and Elon Musk's Reignited Feud
Episode Date: July 5, 2025Bill O'Reilly reveals what's really going on between President Trump and Elon Musk. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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The feud is back.
Donald Trump versus Elon Musk.
Fascinating story, not important for your life,
but interesting media loves it.
Anything that would hurt both men,
the media's gonna love that.
Although, you know, Elon, with the electric cards
and all this stuff, media should love him,
but because he threw in with Trump early on,
they don't.
Now I'm gonna give you a timeline,
then I'm going to give you a couple of sound bites, and then I'm going to tell you what's really
going on here between two of the most powerful people in the world. So for the 2024 election
cycle, Elon Musk supported Donald Trump and pumped in hundreds of millions of dollars to the Trump
political action committees, which is perfectly legal. Okay. Then when Trump won the election,
and he appointed, he appointed the Vek Ramoswamy.
Remember him?
It's running for Governor Ohio and Elon Musk to run the Department of Government
Efficiency, which was a new non-cabinet situation.
Ramoswamy bailed fast.
I don't like this.
I'm going to go and run for governor.
Ohio. So Musk took it over and made a big splash. So about 200 billion in federal spending was
exposed to being wasteful, probably more. And Elon got a lot of headlines on the Oval Office every
day. His kid was there running around, chainsaws, everything you remember. And Trump was basically
a bystander to this, but the information was helping Trump. I'm going to cut government waste.
Then, in May, there was a fissure.
Okay?
So the bill that Donald Trump champion, the big, beautiful bill, has a colossal amount of spending, and Elon Musk doesn't like that.
I think there's something more to this than just a spending, but I'm not sure.
So Musk started to criticize the bill, and Trump didn't like that.
And I'll get to that at a moment.
All right, so then when the bill passed the Senate this week, Musk went out again and said,
I'm going to start a third party, the Porky Pig Party, or whatever it may be, denigrating the bill.
Now, you've got to understand that Donald Trump's whole presidency hinges on getting this bill passed.
So this attack Trump took seriously, and here's what he said yesterday.
Go. I don't know. We might have to take a look. We might have to put Doge on Elon. You know, doge is the monster that might have to go back and eat Elon. We'll not be terrible. He gets a lot of subsidies, Peter.
But Elon's very upset that the EV mandate is going to be terminated. And you know what? When you look at it, who wants, not everybody wants an electric car. I don't want an electric car. I don't want an electric car. I want to have baby
gasoline, maybe electric, maybe a hybrid, maybe someday a hydrogen. If you have a hydrogen car,
it has one problem if it blows up. All right, so all of these are kind of idle threats,
um, but there is bad blood. This isn't fake. Now, must made an attempt to have detain.
Trump, he can do that. You'll, you'll remember a whole bunch of people that Trump didn't like.
and then they kind of came around
and now he likes them and, you know, all of that.
I do think that Donald Trump will hold a grudge at a certain level,
but if it's not important to him, you'll let it go.
This is important to it.
Trump's got to get this bill passed
because if he doesn't, then taxes automatically rise
at the end of this year.
Country goes into a recession.
Democrats win the midterms,
and Donald Trump's administration for two years is toast.
So that's how big this is.
huge as Donald Trump would say huge now these guys live in worlds that we and I put myself in
this position I'm an affluent guy and I can do pretty much what I want to do on this planet
but I'm not in this world I'm not in the Musk Trump world they have unlimited power in
their world personal power so whatever they want
magically will appear almost instantaneously and go anywhere they can eat anything they can buy
18 apartments they can buy 100 cars there's no restraints at all not people who surround them
have to do what they say if they don't then they get other people because they pay pretty well
there's no dissent if you're involved with these people emotionally you've got to sign off
and say hey you know they're not the kind of people that you disagree with you
much. Now, I do disagree with President Trump. He's been a friend of mine for 35 years. I don't tell
him what he wants to hear. But I have changed the way I deal with the president since he was elected.
Used to be, ah, you know, come on, Donald, you know, that kind of, I can't do that now.
Got to respect the office. Have to respect the office. So I call him Mr. President.
Eli Musk, I don't know, but I had a good conversation with him on St. Patrick's stay in the
office. And he was asking my opinion about how he could improve Doge's efficiency. I gave him a few
suggestions. I said a presentation is very important. You've got to be very precise. Here's what
is happening. Here's how much money was being wasted. A chart is good. Americans like that.
They can see it and hear it at the same time. That kind of thing. But Trump's staff knows
that you can only go up to a certain point with Trump.
staff knows the same thing. Now when the two guys disagree, when I disagree with President
Trump, I don't carry it to a degree. I just say, here's how I see it. I'm not trying to
convince him. I just trying to put into his mind a possible other scenario. And I really
don't do that to anybody. I don't try to convince people of anything.
You know, you're free to believe what you want.
Constitutional gives all of us the right to be a moron,
and many of us, you know, are bullish on that right.
So beyond me to try to convince you, I don't do that.
What I do is I point out, okay, downside, upside, historical precedence, that kind of thing.
And then you make your own to say, that's what I do with Donald Trump.
When he asks me, now I never volunteer.
I don't go in and say, hey, I'll get me not doing this.
I'm going to me doing this. We must have no entran at all.
I mean, he owns X. He's got very powerful vehicle,
probably the most powerful communicative vehicle in the world.
So I was on a Carlson program on X.
Millions and millions of people saw it.
That was a great experience for me.
I admire a Musk's genius in the technical area.
He got to.
Guy is just unbelievable what he is,
created. And I admire Trump's creativity and what he does. Okay. So if I were Elon Musk and I wanted to
keep a good relationship with Donald Trump, I wouldn't insist. I wouldn't try to make him look
bad. I don't mind, and I don't think the president would either, must saying, hey, you know,
it might be better to go this way on it and then leave it you state it as your case on x
everybody heard it you don't need to say it over and over to bring porky pig into it you don't need
to do this but the final point i want to make is at that level you can't get there unless you have
an enormous ego i have a big ego i don't think it's out of control
I mean, but it drives me to succeed.
I mean, I shouldn't be working at my age.
I should be driving around in the villages
in a golf court playing pickleball.
Okay, but I like to create things.
I like to be part of the solution in this country.
I like to write these books.
I like to do what I do.
I'm ambitious, and that's tied into my.
ego. You cannot be St. Francis of Assisi and you should look them up if you're not Catholic
and get to be Elon Musk or Donald Trump. We can't. So that ego is always built into
confrontations and most of the time the ego prevails because you're the president or
you're the richest man in the world. So what you want
usually happens. But when they clash like this, then all hell breaks loose.
Trump's going to prevail. You know, if the bill passes, he wins across the board.
Musk has lost a lot of money, a lot of money, because Tesla stock's declined of what,
50% since he got into government? That's so much.
decline. So trouble prevail. But, you know, be better for America. And I'm now sending a message
to both guys. If you guys would work together, even if you disagree in fundamental government
spending or whatever it may be, if Donald Trump and Elon Musk would put aside and work
together on a bunch of stuff, country's stronger.