Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Bye-Bye Joe Biden, Sen. Tommy Tuberville Weighs In on Pete Hegseth’s Confirmation Hearing, Michelle Obama Won't Attend Trump's Inauguration & Did Kamala Harris Deny J.D. Vance Access to the VP Residence?

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Tonight's rundown:  Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, January 15, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Saying goodbye to Joe Biden as his presidency comes to an end. Senator Tommy Tuberville joins the No Spin News to talk about Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing and whether Hegseth is the right pick for Defense Secretary. Why is Michelle Obama skipping Donald Trump's inauguration? Bill questions the credibility of anonymous sources claiming that Kamala Harris has refused to allow the Vances to tour the Vice President’s residence. This Day in History: TV sitcom "Happy Days" begins. Final Thought: O'Reilly's role in the Israel-Hamas hostage situation. In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, Feeling the Heat For a limited time, get Bill O'Reilly's bestselling The United States of Trump and a No Spin Mug for only $39.95. Get Bill's latest book, CONFRONTING THE PRESIDENTS, out NOW! Now's the time to get a Premium or Concierge Membership to BillOReilly.com, the only place for honest news analysis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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national security violations, but it's fascinating. Now, President Biden went public and said, all right, we have a deal. It's not a surprise, particularly for somebody like me who's involved with this, because Hamas knew that President Trump was going to punish it, and the Mullahs in Iran knew that. So everybody in the world knows that President Trump is not Joe Biden. But it would be wrong for Americans to dismiss. the Biden administration, they did work very, very hard to get this deal on the table.

I will caution you, you're dealing with terrorists here and terrorists who have murdered hostages. That's going to come out. But over the course of the next three or four weeks, there's going to be a ceasefire and some hostage will be released. I got an inside track on this like nobody has. So I will obviously. report what I know. The talking points memo this evening is a Mr. Biden's exit. He gives a speech tonight. And it's expected to say, you know, I did a good job. And okay. All departing presidents, including the worst president in history, James Buchanan, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover, Warren Harding couldn't because he was dead, but he would have. Even though they have

10 years, they're going to say they did well. I'm going to analyze that on News Nation. All right. I will be on this evening analyzing Mr. Biden's speech. Okay, there is a brand new poll right when we went to air, came out, CNN poll, and it's very simple. Do you approve or disapprove the job Joe Biden is doing his president? Approved 36 percent, disapproved 64 percent. That's a catastrophe. And Americans aren't stupid. Some of us are. But everybody knows that these four years under Joe Biden have not been good for the country or the world.

Well, at least 64 percent, no. 36 percent say, ah, that's fine. And I know some of those people that think he did a good job. They can't explain it. It's all emotion. People believe what they want to believe. Now, Biden's three big failures were the inflation rate, which hit 9.1% in June of 2022. So the Biden mantra now is, well, it's coming down, but prices aren't coming down.

Just because the rate of inflation comes down, doesn't mean the prices that jacked up, all right, in the first two years of his administration are coming down. They're not. You go to any restaurant, any grocery store, oil, gas, that, that, that's, that. fluctuates but the food prices and the insurance prices my god so americans they said look this happened on biden's watch because when trump left it was 1.4% inflation and you know the trump haters conveniently overlooked that second is the border uh under the biden administration were 9 million what they call border encounters that's when border patrol actually see people

coming across, but that's a shadow of what it was. I estimate, and this is based on government stats, between 12 and 14 undocumented foreign nationals, have crossed into this country in the last four years. And it's caused colossal amount of problems on every front, as everybody knows. Finally, overseas chaos, Ukraine, Gaza, China, Iran, it never ends. And, and there were no problem solved overseas. Isn't that interesting? There weren't any problem solved by Joe Biden until today, and I know the partisans will run while. Well, Trump got him released. No, no, no, no. It's both administrations work together. And again, I will tell you what happened at the end of the program. And that's a memo. Pete Hegseth. So the vote's going to be next week.

and probably going to get confirmed. It's going to be close. Going to be close. Now, the problem I have with this is that we didn't learn much about Pete Hegseth in the Senate hearings because it was all the Democrats trying to destroy them and slime them and smear him

and the Republicans saying we don't care, we're going to confirm. So there's a lot of stuff going on in defense. We are changing from a traditional military into a AI high-tech military. How much does Mr. Hegg-Smith know about that? I don't know because they didn't ask them. Now, there is a poll, AP, Associated Press,

and it says Pete Hegg said that Secretary of Defense strongly approved 19%. Neither approve or disapprove 12%. Strongly somewhat disapproved 35%. Don't know 33%. And that don't know is in stupidity because most people don't know who he is. So that's valid. But his approval among the folks is low. Again, because we don't know much about him.

I never met him. When I left Fox News, he was coming on in. So on TV last night, it was the usual partisan stuff. Let's start with General Barry McCaffrey. Go. Are we going to use military power in? Mexico against drug cartels, let bomb them with B-2 bombers? Are we going to threaten Canada to coerce them economically and becoming part of the United States? This sort of goofy, nutty stuff

will come to the Secretary of Defense for his decisions. And that's where people should be troubled about this nominee. Well, that's a load of gibberish. The Secretary of Defense doesn't make any decisions at all. He carries out decisions. Now, McCaffrey, knows that, but he's making money working for MSNBC. He was one of the, he was on the first O'Reilly factor ever in 1996 as head of the DEA. And he was a pinhead then. I'm sorry, but he is. He's a, you know, I know his service, but the guy, okay.

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from Italy by San Pellegrino Chow now. Now, here's Mark Kelly, the senator from Arizona, who should know better. Go. You got to understand the demands of the presidency, and presidents could make bad decisions. And it could be up to the Secretary of Defense or other Cabinet members to stop him from executing on a bad decision. That's the job of the Secretary of Defense. No, it's not. Secretary of Feds can't stop a president from making a decision about foreign policy? That's insane.

I mean, all you have to do is study FDR in World War II and his advisors told them a whole bunch of stuff, and he just went, no, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. Some of it was wrong. Some of it was wrong. The president makes the decisions. He's the commander-in-chief. Kelly gets out there and goes, stop him from him. executing a bad this. It's stupid. Now, on the other side, you know, there was partisanship as well. Go. What Tim Cain asked today is, did you cheat on your wife when you made a vow to her?

Who cares? Why is that anything you do with running a mandate in the military? He might have had whether you lie about it or not. Did you cheat on your wife? Can you conduct a war? What does it have to do with anything? Well, Americans do care, or Heggsett's approval will be higher. They do. However, Dwight Eisenhower cheated on his wife. Well, he was the Supreme Allied commander in World War II. George Patton cheated on his wife, if you read Killing Patton. So O'Leary said, wow, who care? No, Americans should know the character of their leaders. That's true. They say, who cares?

That's not true. But those kinds of things don't usually have anything to do with competence. All right? And I just backed that up with two major historical figures who were very competent in military matters. All right, we're pleased to have tonight, Senator Tommy Tuberville from Arizona, who's very outspoken guy, and I like that, Arizona, Alabama. I'm sorry, I got Mark Kelly on my brain here, Senator. Okay, anything I said in my analysis of Heg-Seth that you feel is not correct. Well, first of all, the Secretary of Defense builds the military from all

sides. He's the head man. He's not going to make decisions, obviously by himself, whether we're going to go to war or not. The person that does that is obviously the President of the United States and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. There's a lot of avenues in which the Secretary of Defense has to go through to do anything other than put his touch on the military, which we desperately bill. We have got to build our military back. It's the weakest in a lot of areas that we've ever been. We're short on recruiting and Pete brings a passion he brings motivation and he brings understanding he has got experience and fighting in two wars and understanding that we've got to build it back by people people win wars we've got to have more people more soldiers more people that are going to be in the fight

and if we don't do that then we're not going to win any fights all right that's an excellent point that the secretary of defense does shape how the military looks at itself And that's true. But 33%, according to this new poll of Americans, have no blank an idea, Senator, what Pete Heggseth believes. And we didn't get much of that yesterday. We got smears and ridiculous attacks from the Democrats, and we got boosterism from the Republicans.

I don't think that serves the folks. Am I wrong? Well, the Democrats were seeking destroy. Chuck Schumer sicked all the Democrats on Pete. And, you know, that's what it's about up here when you're so divided as we are. And they're obviously going back to November the 5th. They're heartbroken that their nominee did not win the election, but it was a mandate. Now, on our side, we did ask questions about certain things.

You know, mine was about recruiting. It was about what are you going to do in the Pentagon? Obviously, we need to knock a couple sides off of it. We're way overblooded with generals. and there was other questions but the staff minor bill uh armed service we have spent hours not just those four or five hours yesterday we have spent hours with him we want to make sure we're doing the right thing we're not going to have a second chance all right well what did you learn when you when you spent time with him so he has no experience running a corporation

none were you did you leave the meeting confident that he could take on this monster this Pentagon? Well, what, three or four million people? Almost a trillion dollar budget. There's nobody in the Pentagon that we could have gone over and picked that would have been any better than him. First of all, we need to get somebody the age of the warfighter, closer to the age, that understands it. As you said earlier, and you made a good point, we're getting into a new era of weapons, AI, drones, all those things. Really, and we're on the very, cusp of just starting this. It's a new era. The next war will probably be fought in space. That's the reason we now have a space command and space force. It's totally new. Pete has been

involved in that some degree. Most of the generals that are four and three and four stars in the Pentagon have not. They have not been involved in that. And so, hey, if we could have got somebody better, I would have been all for it. But Pete is a, there's a mixture with him. He has passion. He has motivation. He's got people behind him. He understands that we have to win. There's no second place in war. There's no participation trophies. We have to win when we go to war. We hadn't won a war since World War II, but the next one's going to be a big one. And we've got to understand that. Well, I'll challenge you there. I think we won the war on terror in a sense we dissembled ISIS and al-Qaeda in a very effective way. And I wrote a book on it,

killing the killers. So I'm not as, you know, and our military, the problem with our military is, and if I had been on your committee, on the Armed Services Committee, which you're on, okay, I would have asked Hague Seth this. Look, the problem with the military right now is that it's confused. The individual soldiers, sailors, Marines, airmen, they're confused about, well, should I be politically correct? Can I use a swear word? Can I get them up at five in the morning or am I going to get sued? And you've got to lay out that the military is not Princeton University

and then put clear guidelines on how we train our people. Because I know for a fact that a lot of the military people, they're scared. They don't want to get in trouble. You know that, Senator. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, I was in coaching a long time. You couldn't put a hand on the players the last 10 years that I coach. You couldn't grab them by the face mask or push them and anything. We're in a different era. But the military bill has got to be different. It can't be affirmative action. It can't be DEI. It has got to have strict regulations where everybody is judged the same way. Man or woman, I don't care who's a war fighter or who's not a war fighter. You come in, you go by those regulations. We have lost discipline in our military. My dad was active, was career military, died on active duty, and he was so proud of our military, fought in World War II, but we have lost that edge because it's all about social justice. It's all about division.

This group wants to divide everybody, white supremacist or in the military. Give me a break. We need people that want to fight and build a killing machine, and that's exactly what. Yeah, you can't have tribalism as we have on Capitol Hill in the military. Final question, there is, I think, a valid criticism that the second time around Donald Trump, because of his bad experiences with John Kelly, Chief of Staff, the General, and others, is more comfortable now with yes-men. And Hague Seth would be that.

Is that a valid criticism? I think to some point, because, number one, the commander chief is going to be the president. But we have talked to, and I have personally. talk to Pete about that. If you feel strongly about something, you have got to sell it to the commander-in-chief. Now, obviously, your boss gets to make the final decision, but you've got to fight for what you think is right. Don't give in to every little innuendo that comes across your desk. You do it the way you're supposed to do it, that you believe in it. You believe that you can build the strongest military. Bill, we are in trouble in this world. Our military is in trouble.

We have war games that we've done on computers. We don't beat China in any of them. Not any And we have got to build this military back in the way that we can win. We have to win wars. All right, Senator. We really appreciate your time. You will welcome on this program. You got anything you want to tell the folks. And I think Hague Seth will get in.

And you concur with that, right? You think he's going to be confirmed. Yeah, as you said earlier, it's going to be close. I mean, you're not going to get any Democrat votes. I'm sure there's. You won't get out. No. And you're going to have some people that's going.

have some decisions to make on our side. Markowski and Collins will probably vote against Heggsett, but that still gives you one vote. And that's how I think it's going to come down. Okay, Senator, thanks again. We appreciate it. The Army made its recruiting goal last year, 24, 55,000 new soldiers, largely because women signed up,

18% increase, 10,000 women signed up to go into the Army. only 8% increase in men. All right. Now, this year, the Army's goal is 61,000 new recruits. I think they'll make it with Trump as president. What is Donald Trump doing today? He is working on his inaugural address. And I'll have more for you on that tomorrow.

We're going to go over the inauguration. I have talked to the president about it. directly. I keep emphasizing to President Trump. You've got to address the drones. This MailChimp Ferrific jingle is brought to you by MailChimp. MailChimp, your marketing with AI and more. Advanced automations to connect to your store.

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Michelle Obama is not going to the inauguration. She didn't go to Jimmy Carter's funeral, as you know, and all kinds of angst about this in and out. Now, I don't know why Mrs. Obama is not going public, as they say, but I have a pretty good idea that it's one thing or another, and I said that this morning on News Nation. Go. So there's one of two things here. Number one, she is fed up and distraught that Kamala Harris. lost. Certainly possible. And just doesn't want to be in public. She just hasn't gotten over that.

Or number two, she's basically receding from view to launch her own political career halfway through this Trump term. Which I've always felt would be possible for her to do.

So I don't know. It's either she's so mad, she doesn't want to be around or she's creating some intrigues. Because remember, there's no leader of the Democratic Party. There is no one. It is wide open in 28. And Newsom's out of it now because of the fires.

He's done. He's through, he'll never be able to run for another office unless it's, you know, dog catcher in Encino, California. I mean, he's just, I can't tell you how much those California wildfires had damaged Governor Newsom, the mayor of Los Angeles, the progressive movement. I mean, nobody's buying it. And I have a message of the day tomorrow on Bill O'Reilly.com, and I'm going to ask one simple question because I'm a simple man. Is there one thing, just one thing, the state of California has done

since Donald Trump called it out in 2018 and we use a soundbite, one thing to mitigate fires. Give me one. I can't find it. That's right on Newsome. So Michelle, most powerful Democrat now as far as running for president. Anonymous sources, we do not like them. Well, they say that Kamala Harris is being mean to J.D. Vance, his wife and three children, three daughters. Anonymous sources say that to CBS and CNN. Now, what's this about? So the Vance family is going to move into the Naval Observatory Residents. That's where the vice president lives.

Okay? And they want to get in there to see what they need to do to childproof it and to be comfortable. All they want is a tour. And the anonymous sources say, Kamala Harris will not let them. them. Now, in the New York Post was a column, scorching Harris, but maybe it's not true. So we called both Vance and Harris and said, what's the deal? They didn't call us back.

Never a good sign. But I'm just bringing you up to debate. Whether it's true or not, I don't know. Maybe Kamala Harris is that dumb to do something like that because it's going to get out. Wow. Media Madness. So Carrie Underwood, who I think is very talented. Her Christmas album, excellent.

She's going to sing at the inauguration, American the Beautiful, which any performer on the face of the earth would be honored to do. It doesn't matter who the president is. you're being asked to sing America the Beautiful on inauguration. Do you go and you sing it? It doesn't matter who's being sworn in. No, on the view, go. She says, I love our country. How do you love your country and support and normalize somebody who was a convicted felon

who really wants to destroy the country, in my opinion? I don't understand how you say you love your country at the same time as you normalize this convicted felon, which I can say now every day. Well, why would you want to say that every day, madam? Because you hate Donald Trump, the president of the United States. Okay. All right. So Joy Behar hates a strong word, but it's true, the president of the United States.

Therefore, anyone doing anything with his administration is to be criticized. But we all know who that person is, Joy Bejard. Everybody knows. I mean, to her credit, she's not a phony. She's a hater. But here's a question. Why is ABC News paying for that? Another simple question.

Why would you pay someone? I assume she's making millions of dollars, millions of dollars to hate. In addition, the view hurts the other ABC News properties. Mewer, Good Morning America. That show hurts them because you transfer. It's the same thing with NBC. MSNBC hurts lesser hold than a today show. Because half the country, traditionalists, Republicans, conservatives,

they don't like you. They don't like your whole operation. But again, why would you pay for hatred? I wouldn't on either side. So I'm going to predict here there's going to be big changes at the view. Should have happened a long time ago. But Disney is a corporation that's arrogant. All right?

The House of Mouse, Bob Iger is the CEO. They're arrogant because they make so much money at their theme parks. and they used to make a lot of money in movies. It's kind of mitigated now. But they go, you know, you know how those people are. But something's got to change over there. Washington Post has lost 87% of its online readership. Okay?

During the four years, Joe Biden's been president. This is according to semaphore, which is the online news service. 87% people who consume the Washington Post online gun. So Jeff Bezos, who owns the paper, it's got to sell it. I'm predicting he'll sell it. What does he need this? Bezos, by the way, is partying with Trump on Monday, on inauguration day. Zuckerberg is having an after party.

I'm going to do this tomorrow. All right, I'm going to lay it all out. Is so, does anybody buy, okay, Trump himself enjoys it, but knows what this is. Smart Life. This is from Yahoo Finance. To ask Americans about saving money. Fascinating. Here are the questions.

How satisfied are you with the amount of money you currently have saved? Satisfied 22% dissatisfied. 35% only 22% I guess the rest don't even know what they have because that's not close to 100% compare at 2023 in 24 have you been able to save more money 22% save less money 48 save about the same 30 and that's because the high prices under Biden so they can't can't say what do you consider it to be the biggest challenge to saving money. Cost of living, 47%. Biggest challenge. Now, four years ago, when Donald Trump left office, there was a big controversy over January 6th, all that. But he walked out of the

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I can't believe it today, back in a moment. All right, final thought of the day, as we reported up top, there's a deal between Amas and Israel. She's fire, and hostage is supposed to be released in the next few days or rolling out. Okay, so in early December, I got a call from a very well-regarded academic who has very strong ties to the Democratic Party. I know the man for years. So he asks me if I can link up members of the Biden administration's intelligence apparatus

with the Trump apparatus. Very specific request to me, your humble correspondent. I say, I'll try. I did. There was a phone call, 40 minutes. I can't tell you who was on the line. I was on the line. But all I was basically a facilitator.

I was asked my opinion, I did give it, but it wasn't much. I just got these two men together. They're big boys. I got to tell you, it was incredible. Someday I'll be able to write about it. I can't now. But someday I'll be able to. And at the end of the call, I said, you know, I think you're going to get this deal done.

Because both administrations were working together here. At least they were on that call. And subsequently, I think that carried through. One of the key components was Netanyahu in Israel. And it looks like he's come around. So I want to be up front. It was very hard decision for me to make because I'm a journalist historian. I'm not a government functionary, but they had to come through somebody who had access, and I do.

So I decided to do it for my country and for the hostages and their families, hoping it would lead to something good. Now, I'm not taking any credit for anything. Naira was tiny, but I owe it to you as my viewers and listeners. to explain the situation. And so I have. Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News. We'll see again more.