Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - China’s Role in Dealing With Iran, the Real Reason Oil Prices Are Rising & Is Trump’s Polling Being Manipulated? John McLaughlin Weighs In
Episode Date: May 12, 2026Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, May 11, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country. Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down his latest phone call ...with President Trump and explains that the U.S. needs China’s help with Iran. New reports reveal Americans are paying more here because oil companies are selling their product abroad. John McLaughlin, pollster and CEO & partner at McLaughlin & Associates, argues Washington Post polls are misrepresenting Trump’s numbers. A look at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s interview with Major Garrett on 60 Minutes. Is the Ukraine war coming to an end soon? The latest on Russian President Vladimir Putin. Final Thought: Watch the latest episode of We'll Do It LIVE! with Chazz Palminteri. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News from Monday, May 11, 2006. Stand up for your country.
I spoke with President Trump yesterday, Sunday. And that is the subject.
of this evening's talking points memo.
So as you remember, I was in Beijing about a year ago.
And I went there at the request of the Chinese government to talk about America,
Chinese relationships, and I debriefed President Trump both coming and going.
So now we're in another cycle, which is more of the coming and going.
which is more complicated than it was one year ago, one year ago.
That's for sure.
It is, I don't know really what the word is complicated is underestimating.
It's extremely difficult.
So let me run it down.
China needs America, no doubt about it, because China's economy is built on exports.
People buy Chinese stuff in America and all over.
And if the USA isn't buying Chinese stuff to the extent that it used to, then the Chinese economy is going to wobble.
You got 1.5 billion people over there to feed.
Okay, so they want a trade deal.
What we want is help with Iran now.
A year ago was with Putin.
Okay.
And now that situation in Ukraine is pretty much ground or a halt.
We need help with Iran because they're totally irrational.
Iran sells China an enormous amount of oil.
If China did not buy that oil, Iran's economy, which is on a verge of collapse anyway, would go under.
So I expect, although the president did not tell me directly, that the offer will be, look,
will take care of your oil needs, the USA, but you've got to get away from Iran.
You can't be helping them out, and you've got to try to convince them to give up their nukes.
Okay.
It's not going to be easy because China's going to come back with, and I know this to be true,
well, we'll do it, but you got to dump Taiwan.
You can't be defending Taiwan anymore.
Now, Taiwan is a very difficult situation.
We've gone on since 1949.
You can look it up if you'd like to.
But the United States and pretty much every other free country does not want the Chinese taking over Taiwan.
And if we allowed that, if we withdrew our support.
from Taiwan, we would look weak to the world, and China would proclaim a significant victory.
They're not our friends, the Chinese, okay? So you see what we're doing here. All right, so President
Trump's going to be there on Thursday. And he knows, obviously knows all of this stuff.
And I don't know what they're going to do, what they're going to offer. I'm not privy to
that. As far as the gasoline is concerned, I'm going to tell you a shocking story in a few moments,
but again, the president's going to have to think about. Now, the final thing on the board
for the, it's only two days. It's very hard to get anything done in two days. So this is like such a
meeting up. So not Thursday and Friday, they're not going to be able to nail down a lot.
It's AI. So China's stealing AI technology from the United States and everybody else.
And China doesn't care whether you like it or not. What are we going to do there?
They're just stealing it. And they did that with a whole bunch of other technology earlier
on. President Trump is under pressure to do something bad. I don't know what he can do about it.
other than arrest some Chinese people, swear out warrants for them, but it's a fairly big thing.
And you have to keep in mind that the Chinese do not respect intellectual property at all.
They're going to steal it if they can steal it.
You also have to understand that we and China are not friends.
They are our enemies.
They are our rivals.
But President Trump thinks he can make a deal with these people.
Okay.
Now, the reason that I was on the phone with the president,
and again, he called me, I don't call him,
is because the Chinese want to talk to me
before the president arrives in Beijing.
It puts me in a very difficult position,
and it's a unique position.
I don't know of any other journalist ever who's had this kind of access.
I have no access to the Iranians, none.
But with China, I have plenty.
So they, and they're so polite, I mean, it's amazing.
So they ask, can we have a call with you?
Well, I said, if the president okays it, then I'll do it.
because I love my country and no harm.
They're going to ask me questions.
I'll answer them honestly, just like I'm talking to you right now,
which the Chinese are watching.
They watch us on YouTube.
Okay?
So I got a message to President Trump yesterday,
and I said, look, the boys are back in town,
and they want to talk to me.
What do you think?
Because I don't want to interfere in what you're doing.
And I don't know what you're doing.
And he goes, no, you go ahead.
So I got the imprimatur.
And then afterward, if there's on a call, if there's anything that he should know, I'll get it to him.
Because again, this is my job, not only to report to you as a journalist, but to help my country if I can.
And this is a unique position that I am in, which is why I think you're watching and listening to me.
Nobody has this kind of access.
Nobody in the journalistic world.
Okay.
So, and if the Chinese go, this is off the record, I will honor that.
I won't report it, but I have to, but I'm going to go, with the exception of President
Trump, which is what I did last time.
I said, I can't just have an hour conversation with you guys and not report back.
I mean, come on.
They understand it.
Okay.
And that's the memo.
Now, the two big issues with Iran, and they're just playing games, because they feel
that this is hurting President Trump a lot.
You know, they don't want nuclear inspectors in there.
That's number one.
It's very simple.
This is so simple.
They don't want nuclear inspectors.
They say, we'll move some of the uranium to other countries.
That's a bunch of bull.
Okay?
They're going to keep that stuff buried as deep in the earth as they can keep it buried.
Yeah, we're going to, we'll say, well, we do it.
No, do anything.
We need those weapons inspectors in there.
And two, they want control of Hormuz, the straits that come out of the Persian Gulf.
It'd be insane to give them that.
Nobody controls international wars.
So they keep going back to that.
And the mullahs, no, we're not going to agree to it.
So now they'll probably get the hell kicked out of them next week.
I don't think they're going to, the president will do anything before he meets with Xi, the Chinese leader.
But something's got to happen.
Okay.
Now, I have gotten, and I told you this, and I told you, I'd look into it.
I have looked into it.
People go, we have all this oil, we're self-sufficient in oil, we can, why are our prices going up?
When we have enough oil, it's not supply and demand because we have enough supply to meet the demand in the United States.
Well, the reason they're going up is that we sell an enormous amount of oil overseas, American oil.
And here's a stat.
Okay, the energy information, administration.
And we had to root this out here, 8 million barrels a day of American petroleum products
we send abroad.
And that's with suppressing, okay, the supply.
So the oil companies go, oh, well, you know, we don't have an, you get plenty.
You're just making, you're selling it overseas so you can make more money.
and screwing the American people.
And we cited this last week.
BP, 100% profit in one quarter.
Their profits increased 100% one quarter.
What do you think is buying that stuff?
Okay.
So today, President Trump announced that he's going to stop the oil tax,
The federal tax on oil.
The Energy Information Administration says the sales overseas are an all-time high.
Sales of American petroleum product all-time highs overseas.
Okay?
So they're going to suspend the gas tax.
And that'll mean about $4.4.4.
three bucks close to three bucks on a 15 gallon fill-up that you'll get back now whether the there's a
shift of hand or we don't regulate we the country don't regulate is a free marketplace okay
but i hope that the president is going to investigate these oil companies
because this is a national security issue.
And under national security,
and just like they're investigating ABC and Jimmy Kimmel and the view,
you can do the same thing with the oil companies.
Just go in and go, what are you doing?
And we're national security, we've got all this problem,
and you're selling all these products overseas to make more money?
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Now, the one time in history of this happened was Theodore Roosevelt. He clocked them. Rockefeller
Oil, okay, Morgan, JP, and he won in the Supreme Court. They challenged them.
And he broke those monopolies.
Now, I don't know whether President Trump's going to do that or not.
It requires an act of Congress, okay, that we suspend federal taxes on gasoline.
Congress has to put it up, but they will.
Okay, both parties will, because they don't want to go into the midterms with no relief.
And the money that it gets, the federal government gets, goes to repair roadways, transit products, on and on and on and on.
So that's in play.
And I'm going to watch it really closely to see how much relief that actually gives the American consumer.
These oil companies, I'm telling you, man, they got everything that, oh, the next thing you're going to hear is,
our refinery capacity is, you know, we're not, we're having a lot of trouble.
Let me see.
Okay, it's a new poll out.
This is a Trump poll run by John McLaughlin, a buddy of ours, McLaughlin and associates,
a thousand general election voters, people who have voted.
Okay?
First question, which of the following statements regarding President Trump and his policies
This comes closest.
I approve President Trump in his policies, 34%.
I disapproved President Trump personally,
but I like a lot of his policies, 15,
so that it brings up to 49 on the policy.
I disapprove of President Trump and his policies,
both his policies, 46%.
Okay, not a strong number, but not a catastrophe.
Second question, agree,
a disagree, the US military action against Iran,
leadership of the Iranian
regime are necessary and warranted to protect American lives.
Agree 59, disagree 32.
You don't hear that in the mainstream media.
Final question, if Iran were developing, build a nuke, would they use it?
Yes, 61, no, 20.
You know, that's speculative.
So joining us now from Blavent, New York is John McLaughlin.
So your poll is what they call.
an outlier. Washington Post poll, just out, totally different scenario than yours. But you say the
Washington Post has not being straight up with the American people. How? Well, in that Washington
Post poll, they did a poll of over 2,000 adults. And they were not registered voters, not likely voters.
There are people that responded to an Ipsos panel. They got a buck or two to fill out the
the questionnaire, and they only have 29% Trump voters.
29.
We got 50% of the popular vote.
Okay, let me stop you.
This is a key point.
Yeah.
So 50% of Americans, the last time around, okay, 24, 50% voted for Donald Trump.
But the Washington Post poll,
only has 29% Trump voters.
That's what you're saying, right?
That's right, because they pull adults.
Now, they have to know that.
Yes.
You're they ask the question.
They do that.
Right.
Right.
They do that on purpose.
Of course, putting out false data.
You're stacking it out.
Yeah.
Well, they want to turn public opinion
against the president before the midterms.
So, like, our models are based on likely voters, people that say they're going to vote in November, which is even different than 2024. But we have a point or two more of Trump voters in our surveys than Harris voters. And it matches up. Ironically, we set it to the CNN exit polls. So it looks like a national sample. But when pollsters poll adults and they only come out with 29 percent Trump voters, they're
They have an agenda.
And their agenda is to say that Trump's at a historic job approval lows and the Republicans
are losing Congress by double digits.
All right, but they don't tell when they release their poll, the Washington Post does
not tell the public they are doing that, correct?
Well, they put up the cross tips that I could read it, but they don't tell the public
when they run their headlines.
Well, no, it's way down on page 29 or something, right?
the internet, you got to go find it.
You got to look at it. It's not what the Post is.
All right. All right.
So the only conclusion or a conclusion you could prove in a court of law is that the
Washington Post sets out to do polling that's going to make Trump and the Republicans
look bad.
Correct?
That's worse.
Correct.
I mean, our poll, the Republicans are losing the ballot for Congress by four points.
but it's a closer race.
And the president,
we asked his job approval the way we did in the campaign.
And you, by the way,
you and I saw the president on 9-11 at Yankee Stadium,
and the president said to me,
my highest numbers ever,
I said, no, your highest job approval was 57%.
And your highest favorable was 51% on election day
because we were in a campaign.
But when we saw him at Yankee Stadium that day,
I said, you still had good numbers.
numbers were better. But this is how the way we asked his job approval was to raise his
his favorables to raise his popular vote. Now they're in the government. They don't have the same
campaign. It's not, and he's not on the ballot in November. So the Republicans have a lot of work to do
in President Trump. As you said, he's going to China. He's got Iran to deal with. He's
He's doing the things that a president does, and the campaign needs to step it up behind it.
Now, when is your next poll come out?
Oh, it'll be before Memorial Day.
We do a monthly poll when we publish it.
There's lots of polls we do every day, but we don't publish them all the time.
We'll publish the monthly poll before Memorial Day.
In the next three weeks, there's going to be a big change in what happens to this country.
because the Iranian thing can't, I mean, maybe it could, but I can't imagine.
So something's going to happen there.
Something will happen with Xi and China.
Now we have the federal relief on a gas tax.
So just give us a heads up because we want to have you back on the next polling now.
Finally, you say that the Republicans right now, just across the board,
in Congress are running about four points behind the Democrats?
Is that where they are?
Correct.
So they're even trailing President Trump's job approval, which, you know, I mean,
they're at 43 percent.
He's at 49.
So the Republicans need to have a contrast election with the Democrats.
Chuck Schumer is not popular.
Hakeem Jeffers is not popular because their positions are unpopular.
They're against voter ID.
They're for higher taxes, not lower taxes.
And certainly, by the way, when you talk about backing up the brave men and women who are fighting the war with Iran to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons,
the Democrats want to invoke the War Powers Act and surrender.
Like they didn't in Afghanistan.
I mean, at least President Trump's a commander of chief who plays to win.
So, you know, the Democrats, Democrats need to be held to count.
You know, they need to be on the defense about their positions.
Their positions are pretty radical and not supported by the majority of Americans.
No, but if the economy gets worse and the expenses get higher for gas and food and things like that.
And I noticed today that the United States is allowing more beef in to be imported in here.
So obviously the Republicans and the Trump administration understands the danger that Americans will vote their wallet.
Last word.
Right.
Well, you're right.
We need a growth package.
You've got to win the war in Iran.
We've got to have a growth package to keep the economy growing because President Trump, he's tried to grow the economy.
But you have Chuck Schumer shutting the government down when he can.
You have Jerome Powell keeping interest rates high.
So they're putting sand in the engine because it's all about the midterms.
And the Republicans need to wake up and play to win the midterms.
All right, John.
Thanks very much.
As always, we'll talk to you in a few weeks when your new poll comes out.
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And the column is titled,
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which is an epidemic in America, everywhere.
I mean, perjury is a joke.
You go into court, you know, I swear to tell the whole truth, but no, and then you don't,
and it's proven you don't tell the whole truth, and you have lied, nothing happens to you.
Now, the press leaves the league in this.
So Reuters News Service puts out an article last week.
All right, and the article says,
Iran, this is the headline, no further from nuclear weapons than before the war.
Okay, said all the bombing that Israel and the USA did, all the infrastructure decline, all of that, okay, knocking out their first administration, the Iranians, that hasn't touched what the Iranian nuke situation is.
This is Reuters.
Okay?
And of course, the far-left media, particularly MS, picks it up.
Go.
Worders reported that U.S. intelligence assessments believe that this war is not impacted the timeline
for how long it would take Iran to build a nuclear weapon at all.
And Trump, Heggseth and Ruby, of all, of course, all justified this war by saying pretty much the exact opposite of that,
by saying that this war was necessary and successful because it is saying,
back Iran's nuclear program.
Now, the shocking part about this is not many media picked up this Reuter poll.
I thought there was going to be tons of it.
News Nation picked it up.
Fox News picked it up.
Japan Times, few of them.
But not the networks and not that many cables.
Okay?
They ignored it.
Why do they ignore it?
Because it's false.
Two days later, the Wall Street Journal,
citing a report from the Institute
for Science and International Security,
runs this headline,
quote,
U.S. Israeli strikes set back Iran's ability
to build nuclear weapon.
Exactly the opposite
of what Reuters wrote.
Exactly the opposite.
It's just like John McLaughlin was saying
that the Reuters article was designed
to undermine the campaign in Iran.
But the Wall Street Journal,
their data is actually taken from.
The Reuters data is anonymous sources
all throughout.
One guy they quote at the end who has no access to anybody.
He's not in the government.
He's not in it.
All throughout, it's insane.
So if you read my column, you'll see I cite all the crazy anonymous sources.
Two days later, it's knocked out of the park.
It's just really, and, you know, I am down on a lot of my country people.
Used to be able to call them countrymen.
You can't do that anymore.
Because they're lazy and they're apathetic and they don't know what's happening, they don't care to know.
And that drives me nuts.
But there is a large segment of Americans who want to know and they can't get the information any longer.
Because it's so dishonest in the media and the polling.
Netanyahu goes on 60 minutes last night.
And I knew this to be true.
I mean, I don't get the whole anti-Semitic thing.
Where I was raised in Levittal, a lot of Jews, Irish, Italian, Poles, we all got along.
Today, it was none of this BS.
It's just none of it.
And now it's just Israel is horrible.
Jews are terrible people, all of that.
It's almost like the Fourth Reich, all over the world, not just in America.
All over the world.
Here's Netanyahu's explanation.
Go.
You can say anything because it's this.
This is yours, right?
You're not immune either.
Because you can penetrate this machine.
You can penetrate this little instrument.
And you can say about Major Garrett anything you want.
And I can paint you as a monster.
And if I say it often enough,
enough people will believe it.
I am not bemoaning this.
I'm stating this as a fact.
I'm bemoaning it, okay, because it's true.
People read as garbage over and over and over again.
And that's how it grows.
Ten years ago, you didn't hear any of this anti-Semitic stuff.
And now it's a movement within the Democratic Party, the progressive left.
And people buy it because there's a,
stupid machines.
CBS is a mess over there.
They're going to fire Sharon Alfonzi.
I don't know her.
I mean, I'm assuming that Sharon is a left-wing soldier,
but I don't know.
I've seen some of her reports.
She's not Mike Wallace.
Let's put it that way.
But she's lawyered up
and they're kind of cleaning house over there at CBS.
Putin.
He says,
the war in Ukraine may be coming to an end.
Number one, okay?
He looks like hell.
Did you see him on the military parade honoring the end of World War II?
The guys bloated.
He looks like he's on steroids.
And maybe the Ukraine war is coming.
Well, I don't know, Vlad, you better get it over with because you've lost about 350,000.
soldiers dead Russian soldiers in four years.
Now, that number comes from the Ukrainian so we cannot verify it.
But they've lost a lot of people over there.
And it's not going well, okay?
It's for the Russians.
Okay, smart life.
So many Americans are what I call
conspiracy nuts. I hope you're not one of them. Usually people who watch me aren't,
they go to the conspiracy websites where everything is, you know, we didn't land on the moon.
It was a movie studio. 18 guys killed JFK. You know, you know the drill. Okay. So now a survey by
U-Gov, not reliable.
It says that 25% of the American public believe the shooting at the White House correspondent's dinner was staged, 25%.
Now, I was there.
I saw everything, as far as logistics are concerned, it was not staged.
Okay. Now, that's a quarter of the population, believe it was staged, based on what?
Nothing. Some kook on the Internet saying something. All right. Now, this is a smart life segment.
When I run into those kind of people, I never debate them. I never try to persuade them, ever.
I wrote a book, Killing Kennedy. You want to know what happened at JFK? You read a book.
You don't want to know, then live in a delusional world.
That's it.
It's not my job to save people who are conspiracy thinkers.
Back with a final thought in a moment.
Okay, final thought, I think this guest is going to surprise you on Thursday
for the Do It Live, long form that we do now every week.
Do It Live.
We've got Chas Palmetary up there now.
People are liking it.
But the guests we have on Thursday, which I'll tell you about Wednesday, is political.
You're going to surprise you.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Haven't done the interview yet.
We're confident it will happen.
Leland Vitter tonight, News Nation 9 Easter time.
I will be in the chair.
I don't really know what Leland has on his mind.
News Nation did buy that Reuters' phony article.
I might have to scold them to that.
But I don't know what Leland.
Leland's good.
I like them because I really never know where he's going.
And I like Cuomo because it's, you know, so opposite.
His view of the world and my view of the world, so opposite.
But he gives you a good idea of what the left, he's not a progressive cuck, Chris Cuomo.
But he is a liberal, die hard, liberal.
And a lot of viewers don't know many liberals and they don't know what the thinking level
Liz, so when I go on with him, that's what comes out. When I go on with Vittert on Monday,
I don't know what's going to happen. I assume they're going to talk about the China trip,
which is historical. And, you know, I'm talking to a lot of people about this, as you know,
I can't really very, very hard.
Usually I'm a guy who comes up and said,
okay, A, leads to B, leads to C,
leads to D.
But I know President Trump knows
as soon as the Iranian thing comes in,
as we reported earlier,
then Taiwan is going to come in.
You're sitting president,
and ever since World War II,
America has protected the people
who live on that island.
I've been there.
One of the worst places on Earth.
Why is it so bad, Taiwan?
It's just packed with people.
And they're all spitting.
And I'm sorry, this is a comment that's derogatory.
I don't mean it to be.
It's like a baseball dugout in America.
And it's like, jam, packed with people.
And it was like, I stayed a really nice hotel.
But, you know, me, I'm out and about and looking around, and then I went to the snake market in Taipei where they kill the snake and drain the blood and then guys pay a lot of money to drink the blood because it's Viagra or something.
Some crazy thing.
They're going, which way is Bermuda?
See, that's all I want here.
And I'm in Taipei.
So I'm not a good spokesperson for Taiwan tourism, but those people do not deserve to be subjugated.
And if an American president allows that subjugation, that's not going to go over well.
Most Americans don't care.
But the world, that would be perceived as a huge,
victory to the communists. So I got to deal with all Latin, this and that, but we'll have a good
report tomorrow because I will have talked to the Chinese by them. I will, by airtime tomorrow.
We'll have talked to them, unless they cancel. Thank you for watching and listening to
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