Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Correspondents' Dinner CHAOS: Bill Describes the Scene, the Media's Shooting Reaction, & Rep. Mike Lawler on Political Violence in America

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, April 27, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Bill recaps his experience at Saturda...y’s White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, and the media’s poor coverage of the situation. Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY) joins the No Spin News to share his experience at the dinner and social media’s political influence in fueling division in our politics. King Charles III and Queen Camilla of Britain to visit the United States in hopes of mending relations. How members of Congress responded to the recent indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Final Thought: Watch the latest We’ll Do It LIVE! episode with Jeanine Pirro. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Hey fruit flies your baby boom ends here Save the Everyday with Amazon O'Reilly here, welcome to the No Spin News from Monday, April 27, 2026. Stand up for your country. Well, what did I do this weekend? If you traveled to billowryly.com, you know. And that is the place where any breaking news is. So if you want to waste your time, and we'll prove it to you tonight,
Starting point is 00:01:37 if you want to waste your time, watching cable. news and the others. It's up to you. Okay, but you're not going to get the story. I was right in the middle of this thing on Saturday night and that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. So let me set the stage for you. 2,000 people in the ballroom at the Washington Hilton. That's where Ronald Reagan almost lost his life. I wrote a book killing Reagan, some of you might have read it. It's about my fifth correspondence dinner, the first one I took Donald Trump. And that's where all of this stuff between Obama and Trump, where it happened. Okay? And so over the years, I know the drill. And I was never uneasy in that ballroom.
Starting point is 00:02:36 and this year I would not have gone, but my son said, please take me, because he's a political science major, obviously wants to see what's going on. So we went and sat at the News Nation table, and for some reason I was in the back of the ballroom. I think I was coming back from the men's room. and all of a sudden I hear four shots loud. So I'm in the back of the ballroom. There's a door that was open, and then there's an escalator that takes you up to the main floor of the hotel.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So the ballroom's packed, as I said, 2,000 in there. So I'm standing here, boom, boom, boom, four. everybody hits the ground except me and President Trump who are the only guys now my son is under the table I just leaned on and I go how is it under there he goes you're going to get shot in the head dad and I said look if they haven't got me after 50 years they're not going to get me and then my son had the line of the evening goes I didn't know you would take him to basic training because everybody knew that this was an assassination attempt because the Secret Service, I would say 20, 30 seconds after the shots, stormed through the door where I was, ran down the aisle,
Starting point is 00:04:17 and covered the president. So everybody knew that there were bad things afoot, as Sherlock Holmes once said. Now, as a normal human being, I should have hit the turf, but I had to see what's going on. It was my job. I have to see. So I'm there and I'm watching everything that's unfolding. And luckily for me, a marshal, U.S. Marshal, was at the door with an earpiece on, and he was a fan of mine, which always helps.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So right after the Secret Service went in, I said to him, you know what's going on? And he briefed me. He said, does Afrakis upstairs? Doer's shots fired? What we know now, which I didn't know then, was that the shooter fired twice from a pistol. And Secret Service fired two or three shots. Very unusual because if you shoot at a federal officer, which this guy did in the lobby of the hotel, you're usually dead within five seconds. So it's unusual.
Starting point is 00:05:37 So I assume that because there was so many people that the Secret Service is taking measure. So they brought him to the ground quickly. You saw a picture of him laying on the ground. And then they had to decide what was going to happen next. President Trump didn't really want to leave because he doesn't like to show weakness of any kind. It's one to be intimidated. This is the third assassination on the man attempt. But they had to leave, and I understood, everybody really understood that there was so much chaos swirling around. Now, after that, I then swung into my job, which is again information.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And we quickly established that this guy had taken a train from Chicago to D.C., checked into the hotel. He had hotel room. There are 3,000, okay, people who can be lodged in the Washington Hilton. 3,000. And then you had 2,000 visitors. That's 5,000 people, far too many. Far too many people. And but you wouldn't know it coming in because there were stations everywhere. Here's the key point. The shooter could never have gotten even close to the president. B.S. He had to come down an escalator, which was manned, then go through a door where I was and the marshals, and then run down a long corridor, if you want to make it that way, but picture it in your mind,
Starting point is 00:07:21 long space before he could get into any kind of shooting range. So that was never a problem. Well, there's a problem with that people were close to the shooter. They were diving all over the place, as you said, normal people would do. The people close to the president, the day is they didn't hear the shots. And I tell you, they were loud. I mean, I knew right away because I've heard gunfire in my life. And my son is an avid gun enthusiast.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I mean, he hunts all the time. He knew what it was. We knew. And they were loud, as I said. But the people in the other half of the room had no idea what was taking place. when they saw all the federal protection run down, then they knew something was wrong. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Now, this guy, Cole Allen, 31 years old, as I wrote on bill o'Reilly.com, it's just unbelievable. This guy will never, ever see freedom again, ever. In addition to destroying his own life, and he had no shot at this, pardon upon, none. Okay? He destroys the life of his family.
Starting point is 00:08:42 His family's got to deal with this their whole lives. So this guy's a loon, and then he writes up this crazy thing, a manifesto of why he's doing it, and it just makes no sense at all. The guy in the bushes in Palm Beach was a loon. The guy on the rooftop who got killed in Butler, Pennsylvania was a loon. They're all in the same category. They just don't have control over themselves. That's it.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And throughout our history, these have been the profile of all the assassins, the presidential assassins, all of them, from John Wilkes Booth onward. They're just crazy insane people, and that's what he is. But he'll never, ever get out. So he's been charged with trying to assassinate the president and other charges. But that's the big one. And Gene Piro, who we have on our long form, she is part of the prosecution, but the Attorney General's Todd Blanche's taking this over. Okay, then we have reaction.
Starting point is 00:09:52 This is another fascinating story. So I'm there, and I'm giving information to News Nation through Kelly Myers, who's a very, very good correspondent. She's the top News Nation, Washington correspondent. And I'm giving her what I have, because I don't want to hot shot it. Okay, let her, that's her beat. Let her do it. It's something else here now. Something new.
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Starting point is 00:11:09 I just want you to know, this is not verified. We're just listening to what's happening. right now. But we have security around us and it's Secret Service because there's a lot of members of the administration here. The Secretary of Education is seated right next to me. And her security just said, confirmed that there was a shooter in the lobby. It's not clear where, obviously, it's a very big hotel in the lobby of the Hilton. They said he is confirmed dead. We don't know anything more than that. But he wasn't dead. Okay. Now, I'm talking to trying to be fair to Ms. Collins. She's a rookie. She doesn't know, doesn't have the basics down.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Just doesn't. Looks good on TV. Can conduct an interview. This isn't what she's doing. You don't report a story like that. You don't, because that's what they call hearsay. She's got no valid source for that story other than some Secretary of Education. How would he know? Now, if you want to mention it, you can say there's a rumor. You could say that, but you don't say they said he is confirmed dead. Maybe they said it, but so what? It's wrong. It's wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Are we understanding that? Then President Trump not wanting to show any weakness. because he never does. He goes on 60 minutes. Ah, roll it. You read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably, I read the manifesto, you know, as a sick person. But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things. Yeah. O'Donnell had no cause to read the ramblings of a loom. None. Yet she tried to humiliate the president of the United States who was just attacked.
Starting point is 00:13:44 and it was edited. There isn't one person in CBS who knows that. That's called gutter-snipe reporting. It's what the National Enquirer does. Oh, look who said this about you. It's not true. Then why are you throwing it out there? You can't do that if you're responsible journalist.
Starting point is 00:14:06 You have to verify it. So the president was absolutely 100% correct in saying to Ms. O'Donnell, who I know, okay? You should be ashamed of yourself of reading that. And she should be. But she's not. I'm just doing my job. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Talk about malpractice. My God. Okay. And now another controversy is emerging today. Jimmy Kimmel is in the middle of this. So on Thursday, April 23rd, Kimmel said this. Go. And, of course, our first lady, Melania, is here.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Look at, so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow. You know, Melania's birthday is on Sunday. That's right. She's planning to celebrate at home, the same way she always does, looking out a window and whispering, What have I done? All right, so the widow line is going to haunt Kimmel.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Disney's got to get rid of him. got to. So Melania Trump, very rare, issued a response today, saying, quote, Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide our country. It's a monologue about my family as a comedy, his words are corrosive,
Starting point is 00:15:39 deepens the political sickness within America. People like Kimmel shouldn't have the opportunity enter our homes each evening to spread hate. A coward, Kimmel hides behind ABC because he knows the network will keep covering for him. Enough's enough. to sign for ABC to take a stand how many times will ABC's leadership enable Kimmel's atrocious
Starting point is 00:15:58 behavior at the expense of our community. Okay. Would I fire Kimmel if I were the head of ABC? Yes, I would. Yes, I would. There's not First Amendment issues. He's in it for the hate. Not a comedian any longer. So shortly after that, the president issued a, social media quote I appreciate so many people are incensed by Kimmel's despicable call to violence normally would not be responsive to anything that he said but this is something far beyond a pale Jimmy Kimmel should be immediately fired by Disney and ABC thank you for your attention okay so I expect that to happen this week now if Disney defies then their affiliates will drop Kimmel
Starting point is 00:16:56 I have to. I mean, these are mistakes. Look, the Caitlin Collins mistake, she's a rookie, she doesn't know. The Nora O'Donnell, much more experienced, was to make Trump look bad. What, this? Kimmel? This is just hate. And then there's Jamie Raskin, the congressman from Maryland, Democrat.
Starting point is 00:17:28 of the chief Trump haters on Capitol Hill. Here's what he said. Go. I have no personal problem with Donald Trump at all. I mean, I talk about the policies of this administration. The authoritarianism, like we saw on display in Minneapolis, where two of our citizens were gunned down in the streets simply for exercising their First Amendment rights, Renee Good, Alex Prattie, and others have, you know, died in custody. I'm talking about policies. I don't personalize it. And I certainly have never called the press the enemy of the people. No, so he's loathsome, and he's trying to virtue signal that Renee Good and Alex Prady were just gunned down. It's not that they disobeyed any kind of federal officer or they injected
Starting point is 00:18:19 themselves into a very volatile situation. No, they were just gunned down. This is what this guy does, fratsky. That's who he is. That's what he does. He's not going to stop doing it. Now, political implications from this. The ballroom that the president wants to build will get a go-ahead. He's being sued by the National Trust for Historic Preservation about the project, which is all private money, and it will go forward, I predict right here, because that's the solution. If you have your own ballroom on White House grounds, then you don't have these security problems. And then the Secret Service isn't getting paid 73 days because the Democrats are holding up funding for homeland security. So that's got to stop, obviously.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You know, there's a whole bunch of things swirling around this terrible incident that happened on Saturday night. And I expect them to be resolved in President Trump. favor. So sum it up, once again, I'm on the scene of the big story. My God, my career is unbelievable. We want you to try to get into your mind that Bill O'Reilly.com does have accurate report. And then if you want to know something, that is where you go first. Then you can backpedal into the other if you want, but I'm telling you, it has never been this bad. Journalism has never been this bad. And Disney is in major trouble with Kimmel. And that's the memo.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Joining us now is Congressman Mike Lawler, who is at the dinner. He is a Republican from New York. All right. So any, what did you take away? Sorry for the cliche. But when you were thinking about the aftermath and your presence where you were, what did you take away from a congressman? Well, my wife and I,
Starting point is 00:20:23 were in the middle of the room. And as you know, Bill, you can't move in that room once you're seated. And so it makes it a real challenge to, you know, get up and get around. And so what we heard was a pop and then a bunch of plates and trays falling to the ground. And then the secret service flooding into the room
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Starting point is 00:22:15 And as you pointed out, I mean, the reporting that was taking place from within the room was inaccurate in a lot of cases. And so it was hard to get the facts. Okay. So how did your wife handle it? Was she panicked or how'd she handle it? She was unnerved. And so, you know, obviously I was concerned about her in that moment. We also have two young kids.
Starting point is 00:22:40 We have a four-year-old and an 18-month-old. So your thoughts are on that, you know, in that type of situation. But, you know, as we got more information, and clarity, you know, obviously everybody was in a commerce state, but it's still unnerving, especially, you know, when your spouse is there. Sure. And you're not used to this kind of stuff unfolding right before your eyes. Do you see any political implications coming out of this?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Well, look, the Secret Service did a very good job on the perimeter of the ballroom, obviously stopping the individual in his tracks, and getting the president. But I do think there's a real problem with these types of large-scale events. There was no ID required to get in. There was no security really checking any list whatsoever to verify that somebody should be on the grounds. You had no magnetometers anywhere throughout the building except right outside the ballroom. And the fact that this gentleman was able to get from the 10th floor down a vacant stairwell to the, you know, ballroom area, obviously is disconcerting. So I think, number one, how security is handled at these large-scale events needs to be re-evaluated. And number two, to the point of, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:12 the president, this is the third public attempt on his life. And I don't think people are taking it serious enough. You know, I can tell you I'm very active in my district. I've done close to 2,000 events in person in district. I take my safety and security seriously because, frankly, people are unhinged today. And the fact that, you know, in this type of setting with 3,000 people in a ballroom that, you know, somebody was able to get within vicinity after you've already had two separate attempts on the president's life. I think it speaks to where and how these events take place. And I do think it justifies what the president is trying to do on the White House grounds. You could never get into the White House with a loaded gun.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah, as I said that really is the point. You can't vote against it now. And the judges will stop the nonsense and they'll okay it, particularly because it doesn't cost them. taxpayer, anything. Do you, in your career, have you seen a change on the psyche of the American people from when you started, because there's always been, obviously, partisan hatred, always in this country, until now, have you seen it get worse? No question. You know, frankly, people don't even want to be in the room with people they disagree with. And it's sad. People seem to believe that political violence is the solution to political differences. And rather than engage in honest and robust debate and discussion and duke it out at the ballot box, they seem to believe the ends justify
Starting point is 00:26:06 the means. And so I think it's a big problem that we are grappling with as a country. I think social media has been so destructive in our political discourse. You know, people latch on to the quote-unquote influencers who are frankly grifting and, you know, fueling the rage in this country rather than actually engaged in thoughtful and honest debate. And that's really driving so much of this vitriol and hatred that we see that is just, you know, permeated our politics. It's not just them, though. It's like, it's Raskin. You know, Raskin. Oh, yeah. Oh, listen, some of my colleagues played to the worst of the American people. And listen, somebody like Eric Swalwell, you saw how fast he fell because he was an awful, awful person. And he, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:03 lied repeatedly. Raskin has lied repeatedly. It doesn't help the American people. It doesn't serve our country or our body politics well. And frankly, there's people in Congress that are not serious and they don't belong there. All right. Congressman, we really appreciate it. I'm glad you and your wife, you know, are putting this behind you because there is a residual to this kind of a thing. People might not know that, but it just doesn't go away. I can tell you that from personal experience. But we appreciate your time tonight. If we can ever be a service, let us know, Congressman.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Thank you. So one of the people I'm referring to is Erica Kirk, who was up there near the dais anyway, and here's what she said. Go. I just want to go. Yeah, so husband. been Charlie Kirk, as everybody knows, assassinated. And you can imagine. All those memories
Starting point is 00:28:12 come flooding back. It's awful. We thought we had an Iran story for you, but once again, Axios, and this is the difference between me and the other journal as so-called. There is no story. I mean, what Iran is doing is basically making it impossible for the Trump administration to make a deal with it. So I may even go through it. It's just so stupid. But in the morning, I got a flag from my producer saying it, some kind of deal and play. And I said, first thing I said, who's reporting it? Axios.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Okay. So we're stalemated right now. Okay. Let's hope. I think something's going to happen soon, though. I do. Putin got involved and says that he's going to broker a piece in the Middle East. Thanks, Vlad. Yeah, we appreciate that. King Charles, Queen Camilla are here, and that'll make New York City a zoo. The ride that steals the spotlight every time it hits the road, that's the Volkswagen Tiguan.
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Starting point is 00:30:13 That's why they're here. And they'll be here on Thursday. And I know that President Trump likes King Charles. And that's, I hope. they mend it. I mean, we need the UK as an ally here. All right, Southern Poverty Law Center. Another ridiculous story. So the Justice Department has charged it with wire fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy. What the allegations are, and they are just allegations, is that the Southern Poverty Law Center, far, far left outfit, bribe people,
Starting point is 00:30:57 people in far-right organizations to cause trouble so that the Southern Poverty Law Center could come in and put out the flames. That's essentially it. Here's what Chuck Schumer said about it. Go. Let's be clear what this case is all about, is all really about. It has nothing to do with alleged wire fraud or with the Southern Poverty Law Center somehow working in coordination with the KKK.
Starting point is 00:31:27 That's ridiculous on its faith. It doesn't pass the laugh test. It's about Donald Trump turning the Department of Justice into the Department of Vengeance, his own attack dog. Well, how would Schumer know that? Did Schumer investigate it?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Does he have agents that are compiling information? Talk about a laugh test. You know, it's humiliating. You don't know. What happened, Senator? And you don't care what happened. As long as your team doesn't get put in a bad position. But it's not just on the left.
Starting point is 00:32:11 The right's doing it too. Go. When you come back to the fact that the Southern Poverty Law Center viewed as the standard, cited by so many in the media as the standard on evaluating what groups are extremists, what are not, what groups aren't, and they're actually paying. these informants to go inside these hate groups and foment more of it, that is just evil. That is just wrong. So both Schumer and Jordan convicted the Southern Poverty Law Center without due process.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Because the Southern Poverty Law Center denies all this. You see where we're going here? Where's a due process here? can say hey this doesn't look good or maybe put some of your staff on it to compile facts but both humor and and joy and fine with no due process scary we'll be back in a moment okay final thought of the day my long-form interview with jean perro who is the district attorney in dc is next to Lindsay Graham our biggest hit. Here's a bit of it.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So you're sitting there at the five and you're making good money. It's a very successful program. And you get the call. Yeah. How long did it take you to say, I'm going to dump the TV thing and I'm going to go into public service? It didn't take me long at all. Let me explain something to you.
Starting point is 00:33:58 sometimes the most difficult decisions are not all that complicated. Because when he made that phone call to me, he did it personally. He called me. Yeah. You called you. It was, it went right to my, right to my soul. This is who I am. This is how I want to, you know, maybe end my career.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Who knows? This is a job that I love. This is a job where I go in every day and I can't wait to get there. I mean, I haven't even told you all this stuff we do. I'm the DA here. I'm the federal prosecutor. I do terrorism. I do civil cases.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I do. I defend agencies. I go, I prosecute agents. I mean, this is a huge job, huge office that I had to turn around, Bill. It was a neglected office. Okay, so that is, we'll do it live, our long form podcast. It's up now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And then for Premier members, we give you. a little bit more of the inside stuff. So I hope you check it out. And as the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine is involved with the shooter on Saturday. She's involved with all of that. I've known her forever and very, you know, Janine and I get along very well.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I want to thank everybody for your kind text and emails about my son and my son. myself at the dinner. Very nice of everyone to do that. There was never any danger to us, but I explained it, I think, pretty well at the topic program. And, you know, my son learned a lot, that's for sure. But if he's going to get into politics, he's got to know it. And thank you very much for watching and listening to the No Spin News this evening. We'll see you again tomorrow.

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