Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Dissecting Jack Smith's Final Report, Biden Fails to Admit Afghanistan Mistakes, an Update on Israel-Hamas Ceasefire with Victoria Coates, & NBC's Latest Stumbles
Episode Date: January 15, 2025Tonight's rundown: Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, January 14, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country. Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks do...wn Jack Smith's final report on the Donald Trump investigation. Joe Bidens defends his record on Afghanistan in a foreign affairs speech, has he ever admitted to a mistake? Victoria Coates, former Deputy National Security Advisor under Trump, appears on the No Spin News to discuss the status of the Israel-Hamas ceasefire and potential negotiations for hostages. Anti-Trump journalist Yamiche Alcindor is returning to the White House to cover the incoming administration for NBC News. This Day in History: Elvis Presley's concert “Aloha from Hawaii” is broadcast live. Final Thought: Check out a preview of NewsNation’s United States of Trump special. In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, Feeling the Heat For a limited time, get Bill O'Reilly's bestselling The United States of Trump and a No Spin Mug for only $39.95. Get Bill's latest book, CONFRONTING THE PRESIDENTS, out NOW! Now's the time to get a Premium or Concierge Membership to BillOReilly.com, the only place for honest news analysis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the No Spin News, Tuesday, January 14th, 2025, stand up for your country.
Five more days of President Biden.
The countdown is underway.
He remains delusional.
We'll prove that again tonight.
I don't know how many times I have to prove it, but this is an interesting
segment will present to you. His support is a kind of confused. Some continue to hate Trump above all
else. Others, they don't know what to do, all right? And we'll get into that a little bit. But the fact
is that Donald Trump enters his second term as the most powerful president since Ronald Reagan.
Now Reagan in 1985 came in big, and Trump is as well.
But Trump's detractors are never going to give up, and that is the subject of this
evening's talking points memo.
Shortly after midnight last night, the Justice Department released 137 pages, authored
by Special Counsel Jack Smith, accusing Donald Trump.
Trump of crimes, primarily in trying to derail the election of 2020.
And, you know, nobody surprised, right?
But here's the problem.
Smith was appointed to try to get to the truth, not to try to nail Donald.
Trump, and that's what Smith tried to do. He didn't even take into account, exculpatory stuff.
From the very beginning, from the very first hour, he was in the office of special counsel.
He thought Trump was guilty, and let's prove it, okay? So here is a full screen, something
that was put in the report. Quote, although the defendant was the incumbent president during
the charged conspiracies. His scheme was fundamentally a private one. When the defendant lost
in 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to stay in office, unquote. Well, Jack Smith is
not a jury, and he's not a judge. There's no alleged or anything like that. No, he's guilty
because I, Jack Smith, say so. That's not what this is supposed to be about.
about. You present the facts. Now, Smith is a partisan. We've traced his background, liberal
Democrat. Of course, he's going to be appointed by Biden and Merrick Garland, of course.
But let me just give you two things. Smith's strongest argument for election interference,
which is what he's trying to say happen, is that President Trump did not want Vice President
and Pence to certify the electoral vocabre.
That's true.
That's a fact.
But President Trump didn't take any legal action to prevent it.
He just didn't want Pence to do it.
It's not a crime.
Okay, that's an opinion.
Trump said, depends.
I don't think he should do it.
Okay?
Why did Trump do that?
Because it was his opinion, again, second opinion,
that the 2020 election was fraudulent.
that there was cheating in it.
And Trump wanted more time to establish that as fact.
He's the right to do that as president.
Now, in my eyes, Donald Trump was wrong
because there was not enough evidence presented anywhere
to back up his opinion.
And that's the truth.
Now, you can write me letters all day long about what you think,
and I heard this, and four mules in Texas, and whatever.
and whatever, stop.
Facts have to be presented.
Okay.
The exculpatory part, which means Trump's side,
which Smith totally ignored, all right,
is that a president is entitled by our Constitution
to a wide range of opinion.
And the Supreme Court ruled that.
last year.
He said, look, he's on the job.
Trump's on the job, even after the election to votes with cash.
He's still on a job.
He can have opinions.
But he can't violate the law.
I don't see where the law was violated.
The votes were certified by the vice president.
So Smith doesn't say anything about that.
This was just a fiasco, as was the moral law.
and on and on and on and on.
Okay.
Now that's not the way our country should operate here.
And this is the biggest, you know, Trump got his revenge by winning the election.
Smith is out.
Smith is, I don't think Smith will ever hold the other government position.
Even Democrats who hate Trump know Smith was in a bag.
Everybody knows he's in the tank.
Okay?
So he's done.
Trump won. But it never should have happened. And that's a memo. All right, another special
counsel, David Weiss, he's the guy in Delaware who took six years to investigate Hunter
Biden for tax fraud and a gun thing. Six years. No, it doesn't take six years. Doesn't take six years. Doesn't take six months.
Okay? So Weiss slow walks the Hunter Biden prosecution. That's a fact. Anybody in the legal or governmental realm knows that. But now, Weiss is mad. Even though he did the bidding of President Biden and Merrick Garland by slow walk in a case, now he's mad that Biden pardoned Hunter and said that the reason I'm pardoning my son is because he was only prosecuted.
because his name is Biden.
That's what Joe Biden said.
It's ridiculous, right?
So here's what Weiss says, quote,
eight judges across numerous courts have rejected claims
that they were the result of selective or vindictive motives,
calling those rulings to question and injecting partisanship
into the independent administration of the law
undermines a very foundation.
What America's justice system, fair, and equitable.
It erodes public confidence in an institution
that is essential preserving the rhodo law.
This is what Weiss said yesterday.
Okay, that's good.
But you yourself undermine the, let me use your words, the rule of law.
By taking six years to investigate something that should have been taken six months, right?
Well, you're no hero, David, what?
All right, President Biden gives us goodbye speech tomorrow night.
that'll be at 8 p.m.
I'll be up against that speech.
I don't know, maybe Cuomo, Chris Cuomo on News Nation.
He's going to have to take Biden's speech tomorrow Wednesday.
I'm going to have to do that.
So I don't know whether I'm going to appear or not.
I'd like to appear after the speech.
Maybe I'll try to talk those guys into that.
Because I know what it's going to be.
It's going to be what he did yesterday at the State Department.
So Biden toddles over to the State Department.
yesterday and he gives his unbelievable speech long-winded was a description but he's justifying
his pull out of Afghanistan which is a disaster remember on august 30th 2021 all right just after
you know about what eight months after seven months after um Biden gets in he pulls all the troops
out and abandons billions of dollars with the weapons of terrorists, and 13 U.S. service
people are killed, 170 Afghans are killed.
And Biden, I don't know, it was great.
Here's what he said last night.
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So when I took office, I had a choice.
Ultimately, I saw no reason to keep thousands of servicemen in Afghanistan.
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I think I have my schedule with me, and I keep on my, I don't hear, but I keep out of the back
of my car, the actual number of dead and wounded that occurred in our longest war to remind
myself, keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars a day, be not longer doing that.
In my view, it was time to end the war and bring our troops home, and we did.
Oh, nobody was objecting to bringing the troops home.
It's how you did it.
Chaos.
And you got people killed.
And you didn't have to.
When Trump left office, the Taliban, had not killed an American service person for 18 months.
Because there was a deal.
We could have removed all of our armaments from Afghanistan.
We could have kept Baguan, all right, Baguan, saying it didn't wrong.
Could have kept our air base, right, Baguan, wrong, which I actually was that.
We could have kept it.
Could have kept 2,500 troops there to protect American citizens.
Well, that could have happened.
That one wasn't going to object to that.
Okay.
But not Biden.
The guy never admits a mistake.
We can't find any in four years.
He's never admitted a policy mistake.
Not one.
Open border?
That's fine.
9% inflation?
Not my fault.
Never.
And, you know, for you, what about people out there?
Trump doesn't admit mistakes either.
He doesn't.
And this is bad.
Our elected officials should,
admit their mistakes because everybody makes them.
And the American people will accept that.
Boy, Biden can't get out of there fast enough for me.
Okay, so will Trump go to the fire zone in California?
I think he will.
I can't confirm it.
The problem is Newsome.
Trump don't want anything to do with him.
So they got to work out logistics.
What, after the inauguration, Donald Trump would like to go out there and praise the first responders and firefighters and police.
And that's the right thing to do.
But he doesn't want to run into Newsom because Newsom is obviously on the ropes and desperate.
And you know what the situation is.
But I think Trump will go.
The LA Times, pretty much almost out of business now, but the owner who's desperately trying to save the paper, says, you know, it was a mistake for our newspaper, the LA Times to endorse Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass. Roll the tape.
Well, first of all, we'll accept on blame, right? So at the LA Times, we endorse Karen Bass. I think right now in front, that's a mistake. And we admit that.
So I thought it was very important early on for me to come out.
I admit the mistake, just like I was saying about Biden and Trump, admit it.
I admire that.
Now, can you save the LA Times?
No.
The paper was so far left, so progressive that traditional people, you know, not conservatives, just regular folks.
Why are I reading this?
Why?
And they don't.
This is an important story.
I do believe that there is going to be some hostage release in Gaza.
The reason I believe it is because I am to a limited extent involved, full disclosure.
I can't tell you specifically, but for the past six weeks, I've been involved with
putting people together, various people, to advance the negotiations.
How I got involved is an unbelievable story, which I will write someday, but I can't now,
because it's too delicate, and we want these people out of there in Gaza.
Now, I think it's going to happen this weekend, maybe even sooner.
So negotiations are going on now in gutter, in Egypt, back and forth,
Gutter is the main one. Everybody's there. Israel is there now. The Mossad chief is there.
And I'm sorry to tantalize you with my participation, but got to be up front and honest when I report.
And I am involved with this, but at a limited extent. I'm a facilitator.
All right. So what we're getting is 33 hostages, including women, children, men over 50, are going to
be let go. The estimate that I've heard is maybe 75% have been murdered of the hostages that
were held. I don't know, can't confirm. That's what's being bantered around. Anyway, we are on
this. I am watching it very, very closely. I think there is a better than even chance.
And this is like Ronald Reagan in 1985, when as soon as Reagan was sworn in, the Iranian mullahs
released the American hostages they were holding in terror.
You remember that.
Carter couldn't get them out.
I don't know if that's going to happen this time
on an inauguration day or what, but I know it's very intense.
So joining us now from Washington
is a former national security advisor for President Trump
in his first term, Victoria Coates.
She works at the Heritage Foundation.
And she's the author of the book, The Battle for the Jewish
state how Israel and America can win. Can you advance this hostage story at all, Ms. Coates?
Well, Bill, good to be with you, and thank you for taking action to facilitate this.
You know, the hostage crisis, as it goes into its 15th month, 15th month, is now in a very
different phase than it was a year ago because, as you said, so many of the hostages have died.
They're being kept under the most abysmal conditions by Hamas, other terrorist actors in Gaza.
And so the window for them to get out alive is limited.
Important to remember, we have at least four Americans involved in this as well.
So there have been American citizens cruelly detained for over a year by Hamas.
And so right now, I think the imperative is to get a deal, to get them out,
and to have that deal be such that it does not prevent Israel,
from pursuing its national security interests,
which it has a right to do.
So hopefully we can get the, as you said,
women and children, men over 50 out in very short order,
hopefully by the inauguration,
and then get the rest out as quickly as possible after that.
So in order for this hostage release to happen,
Israel is gonna have to give something to,
I don't know who you give it to.
I guess Iran, Hamas,
but Iran's controlling everything. And we don't know what that is, and I'm not going to speculate
what Israel would give up. But let's look forward. So Trump takes office on Monday. Iran is the main
problem in the Middle East. Everybody knows that. Funding terrorism and developing nukes. So I'm
appointing you, Ms. Coates, the president's top security advisor. What do you tell them to do about
Iran. Let's go step by step. Keep it simple. Now, I think the number one priority, and President
elect Trump has spoken very forcefully about this is to get a handle on the Iranian nuclear
program. But what does that mean? What does that, get a handle doesn't mean anything to me.
Do you threaten them with military action that will blow the hell out of you? What do you do?
No, I was talking about, figure out exactly what is going on, because we know how far they've come,
over the course of the last four years.
We know where they were
when President Trump left office in 2021.
They now have thousands of more centrifuges
are enriching at least to 60%
if not 80%, which is weapons grade.
So where they are with their nuclear program
is very different from where they were four years ago.
I think the president-elect will need
to get fully briefed on that,
figure out what options are left.
The problem with the maximum pressure campaign,
the very famous economic pressure campaign,
President Trump implemented during the first term is it takes time. And it's not clear to me we still
have that much time. So I think the priority for the incoming team will be figuring out what their
options are on the nuclear program. Do you have an opinion about what option is best?
I think that there probably will have to be a military option. And we know that Israel has done this
twice before in both Syria and Iraq. See, Trump doesn't like to present specific
military options to the world or the country. It doesn't like to do it. All right. But I'm saying
that, number one, if you are willing to use military force to attack Iran, the world has to know
why. And I would think that would be the first campaign that if you don't let United Nations
weapons inspectors in to look at your new facilities, which I don't think DeMulles would do,
I would do a blockade first. We'll blockade all your ports and nothing in, nothing out.
And if you attack the blockade, we're going to blow the hell out of you. That, but you'd have to sell
that to the world. And I'm not sure whether Trump will do that.
Well, I think what you'd have to sell is the imminent danger of Iran.
with a nuclear weapon.
But everybody knows that, Victoria.
Not if they're within minutes of breakout.
So I think that that is the key thing.
If you're going to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon,
if you do a blockade, as you mentioned,
this can lead to all sorts of different escalation.
If you do a very targeted strike,
the way Israel did in Iraq and Syria,
which were absolutely laser-focused on nuclear facilities,
not civilian infrastructure.
I think you might have an easier time, let's say, selling that than you would a broader military.
But then you get China and Russia involved then because Russia just signed a treaty with the mullahs.
It seems to me that the world would take an escalation better than a targeted military strike,
which is an act of war.
It certainly is.
But anyway, it's a grisly situation.
but you agree with me that it's going to have to be dealt with by President Trump, correct?
Well, yes, because obviously President Biden hasn't dealt with it at all.
And he enabled them all is...
And he enabled them by allowing frozen bank accounts to flow billions of dollars back to the Iranians.
Look, Biden's second worst president in history of any sane person knows a guy just screwed up the country and the war.
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Economically, militarily, you got Putin allied with the mulles.
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I mean, it is a mess.
No, it is.
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Iranian drones being used in Ukraine. You have North Korean soldiers in Russia. You have China
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President Biden has permitted the sale of some 1.7 million barrels a day from Iran to China.
That's been the key source of funding that's kept them going, kept them afloat, essentially.
during a pretty bad economic period for them and funded all of this terrorism and funded the nuclear program,
which, as I said, I think, is going to be the main focus of the incoming administration.
All right. The also, and this is new, is that the national security advisor, the new guy,
is saying that Trump and Putin are going to get on a call very, very soon.
I believe that a deal has already been structured between Putin,
and Trump. Could be wrong, but I have pretty good information. Do you believe that?
I think, I mean, what I know is the president-elect has said that he wants to get a deal.
He wants to end the war. Everybody wants to get a deal, Victoria. Do you think they have a deal?
I don't think they have a deal right now. I think they may have discussed parameters if they've
even talked, which I don't know. I think a Congressman Waltz has said, you know, that they're going to
arrange a call or a meeting, that's perfectly normal and as it should be. But I wouldn't want to
speculate about what's going to be in the deal and get ahead of the president-elect.
Okay, that's fair enough. Final question for you. We live in a very dangerous world. Most people
do not accept that because people believe what they want to believe. So Trump's walking into this
thing. And so far, it's been about the economy. It's been about immigration. These are the
emotional issues, they got them elected. But overseas, the danger is growing, in my opinion.
Do you believe that? Well, I do. For the reasons we've just discussed, I think China is leading
this group of four, you know, hostile nations that are all virulently anti-American, dictatorial,
anti-Israel, and anti all of our allies. I mean, they hate Saudi Arabia, they hate UAE,
they hate Europe, all of these things. So I think this is a very,
dangerous world. It shows us what happens after four years of very lax, ineffective U.S. leadership
is you have bad actors acting up all over the place. Yeah, they're certainly been empowered by
Mr. Biden. All right, Victoria, thanks very much. We really appreciate it. Okay, back here,
Pete Hegseth, former Fox anchor, nominated for the Secretary of Defense position, testified
in front of the Senate today. Now, there was some salacious.
stuff about Mr. Heggsett's activities. Now, he's not been charged with any crimes or any,
you know the story. I'm waiting for a day to see reaction to that before I present it to you.
It's not fair to Heggseth, all right? Because, again, he's not been charged in anything.
So he made a settlement with a woman. There have been a million settlements made in the last
four months, all right? Because settlements don't say you're guilty. They basically are done,
to protect people.
All right.
But that doesn't matter
that people don't like Hegset.
So I want to wait.
But the other thing about Hegsef is
that he has written in the past
that he wants a traditional army.
You want the LBJ,
LBQ, whatever.
You don't want that.
Doesn't want women in combat.
And that came up today.
Go. What do you have to say
to the almost 400,000 women
who are serving today about your position
on whether they should be capable to rise through the highest ranks of our military.
Senator, I would say I would be honored to have the opportunity to serve alongside you,
shoulder to shoulder, men and women, black, white, all backgrounds with a shared purpose.
Well, I appreciate your 11th hour conversion.
But, Mr. Chairman, for the record, I would like to submit Chapter 5,
the deadly obsession with women warriors for the record.
Next, that's going to have a tough time.
All the Democrats will vote against him, every one of them.
And if he loses two Republicans, which he might.
Collins in Maine and Ernst in Iowa, maybe a few others.
It's going to be hard.
It's going to be close vote.
But again, we'll revisit this tomorrow.
Above all, we want to be fair here, all right, because the rest of the media is not.
All right.
Let me see.
just the Mike Walsh, Putin-Trump call.
I do believe that they haven't spoken directly,
but indirectly, they spoke.
All right, Canada says it's going to buy more American stuff.
This is what Trump's walking in.
Okay, good.
Canada's buying more of our stuff because it's trade in balance.
Mexico says it's going to buy less Chinese stuff
because China is making a fortune off the world,
and it empowers them.
And finally, Greenland says it's going to negotiate with Trump.
The Trump's walking in is the most powerful person by far in the world, and everybody's
folding, as I predicted, would happen.
They're not going to stand up to him yet.
Media madness.
So NBC News, I just can't figure it out.
I cannot.
Comcast owns NBC.
Comcast in Philadelphia, the guy who runs its name John Roberts.
I don't know what he's doing.
For years, NBC News has been woke, far left, hate Trump, on and on, and they've gotten pounded.
The Lester Hope broadcast, the Today Show, all hemorrhaging viewers.
Why? Because of MSNBC.
Well, now NBC News announces that their White House correspondent under the Trump administration
is going to be a woman named Yamishi Al-Sindor.
All right?
She hates Trump, hates him.
Roll the tape.
What you see in the president here in this moment,
in this moment that is possibly the most important moment of his presidency,
is a president that is continuing to be consumed with the issue of staying in power,
continuing to be consumed with his own political failings.
That was in 2021.
Why would you appoint that woman as White House correspondent NBC?
She hates him.
Why would you do that?
I just, it's inexplicable to me because it's dollars.
It's money the losing.
Now, MSNBC, as we have reported, is gone.
NBC News cut it loose and you want to buy it, it's up for sale.
So they fired Rashida Jones today.
That's the head of MSNBC.
Bye, gone.
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cautionary tales that happened 52 years ago today back with a preview of our
our big Trump special in a moment.
All right, final thought of the day, News Nation,
running a special on the United States of Trump,
Friday, January 17th, 9 p.m.
Rerunning Sunday, okay, January 19th, 8 p.m.
Or after Trump's speech or whatever's going on.
Now, this, I just read the script before I came to air.
They just, you're going to,
learn a tremendous amount.
Here's a look.
Nobody could have done what he did
taking the vitriol and hatred
directing at him. Throughout history, no president
except Abraham Lincoln took the hatred that he took
and Lincoln was killed because of it
and Trump was almost killed.
Okay? So you've got to be strong
to continue that way.
Most people would have folded. He's a strong guy.
Whether you like them or not, you can.
Can't deny that. The strength thing's an interesting point, right? And this is a guy who's been
through booms and bust, right? You watched him, 1987, the real estate crash. You wrote about it
in the United States of Trump. He doubles down. He doubles down. Finally, sort of finds his way
out. Is that that unwavering never quit? Is that the same thing is he loses in 2020 and says,
all right, I'm going to come back and run again. I am tonight announcing my candidacy for
President of the United States. It's like throwing five interceptions. All right, the next
week, you come back and you throw five touchdowns. So he doesn't, Trump does not live in a
introspective world. This is one of the most important points I want to make on this show.
He's not an introspective man. He doesn't, he doesn't journal. He doesn't meditate. He doesn't
Monday morning quarterback. He doesn't regret. He lives in the moment. So the moment is bad,
but the next moment, he's going to make it good.
He's disciplined enough to when a mistake hurts him.
I know he thinks about the mistake,
but he doesn't carry it around as a burden.
Does that make sense?
So he puts it aside and he just keeps going.
But he is able to get by these disasters
that would sink other people by being resilient.
Donald Trump has an innate ability to survive.
through sort of almost anything, right?
He access Hollywood tape, impeachment one, January 6th, impeachment two.
But then came all of the lawfare issues.
Was there ever a time that you talked to Donald Trump that you thought,
he may just decide this isn't worth it?
No, not one time.
And his goal was, I'm going to get back there.
I never saw him waiver about that.
I did see him get very angry,
particularly about the New York City stuff.
This was a rigged, disgraceful trial.
that the real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people.
Very, very angry about it.
And he doesn't show emotion much.
So there is 40 more minutes of that.
Thing runs 42 minutes.
And I'm telling you the truth about Donald Trump.
Now, some people don't want to hear the truth about Donald Trump.
Certainly the media doesn't care about it.
They don't.
But News Nation does.
And that's a credit to them.
So this special is going to cause a lot of waves.
It's no cupcake.
We go in and I'm telling you what, known in 35 years, here's who he is.
And I hope you watch.
Again, Friday, January 17th, News Nation, 9 p.m.
Sunday, January 19th, 8 p.m.
And of course, we're going to let you, we want you to tell me,
You know, what do you think?
We'll have another preview on this, probably Thursday.
We'll give you a little more taste of it.
And then next week we'll have some segments off of it, okay?
All right, thank you for watching and listening.
I'm Bill O'Reilly.
We'll see you again tomorrow.