Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Donald Trump vs. CBS, the Downfall of Network News, Michael Pack on Left-Leaning Bias at PBS and NPR, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s Confirmation Chances & Gov. Newsom's "Trump-Proofing" Package

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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Still a lot of confusion about President Trump's executive orders. And that's because they're not reported accurately by anybody. Okay? So it falls to me to explain really what is happening, why it's happening, and what will happen in the future. That's three happens. And I'm going to do more of that tonight. But the reason there's someone's confusion is not your fault, not the fault of the folks, because as soon as an executive order is signed by the president, the media kicks into we hate it or we love it. Not what it is and why it happened. No, it's either, it's horrible, the liberal hate Trump media, or it's the greatest executive order ever, the Fox Newses and the Newsmaxes and all that. So people go, well, what are we talking about? And they don't put it forth. But I will tonight. First, though, the talking points memo, Donald Trump takes on the corporate media and is winning.

So the latest and the biggest is 60 Minutes. tremendous broadcast for many years. Mike Wallace is a mentor of mine. I knew the whole crew over there, Don Hewitt. Andy Rooney hated me. Very funny. And I know a lot about 60 Minutes. I was on it twice, profiled twice, once for the rise of the O'Reilly Factor, and once for the

book, killing Jesus. And they treated me fairly. Okay? They, uh, once it was Mike Wallace that interviewed me and the second time was Nora O'Donnell. And I have no beef. Um, they did a nice job. It wasn't a puff piece, but it wasn't a hatchet job. And for years and years and years, I respected 60 minutes, but I don't even watch it anymore.

And it's not because I think they're crooks. It's just because it's dull. And I, I know pretty much what they're going to say. and the culture is left. And the whole culture at CBS News is left. And there's no doubt about it. There's no two sides to that story. It is.

And we backed that up in the past. I'm not going to be redundant. So the Kamala Harris interview with 60 Minutes took place on October 7th. It was 21 minutes long. And it's right in the middle of the campaign. Trump turned down 60 minutes, as you may remember, because when he did it the first term around, Leslie Stahl was mean to him. He didn't like how Leslie conducted herself.

Okay. Trump had a chance to go on 60 minutes, but he didn't trust him, so he didn't go. Harris went. So, 21-minute interview, and they edited the interview. The whole thing was 54 minutes, I understand. They didn't have to cut anything. In fact, I wouldn't have had I been running 60 minutes. I would have run the whole thing.

Why cut it? Middle of a campaign, got the Democratic nominee, let's go. All right? Got something better? I don't think so. So anyway, they cut it. That's where the controversy comes in. The correspondent is Bill Whitaker.

I don't know him. And he asked Kamala Harris about Israel Netanyahu and whether they have a decent relationship with the Biden administration. And here's what Kamala Harris said in the unedited part of the interview. The work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our actions. for what needs to happen in the region. And we're not going to stop doing that. We're not going to stop pursuing

what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end. Now, remember the question was, does the Biden administration have an important relationship with Israel and Netanyahu? She didn't answer the question. She didn't come close to answering the question.

In fact, I don't know what she was talking about. And that was her point. problem. She's all over the place. She doesn't answer the questions. So when you watch the program, you didn't see that, that answer. Nobody saw that. Here's what you saw. Go. The work that we do diplomatically with the leadership of Israel is an ongoing pursuit around making clear our principles. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening. We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end. Did I cut out all the gibberish, and she was much more cogent in that part, right?

So that part ran 22 seconds. They cut 11 seconds of gibberish out of it. Now, that's not illegal to do. Donald Trump's not going to win his lawsuit. It's $20 million, as I mentioned. It's not going to win. You can edit any way you want to edit, and CBS is saying, oh, we edit it because we didn't have the time.

We didn't think it was important. We wanted to cut it down and all that. Am I buying that? No, I'm not. And I've been in this business 50 years. I know how to edit a piece. I'm not. The powers it be at 60 minutes wanted Kamala Harris to look better.

And I think that is beyond any reasonable doubt. but it's not illegal okay all right so what happens then is that CBS would not put out the transcript until the federal government until Trump won the election and the chairman of the SEC says you got to put it out okay and so they were ordered to put it out and they finally did and now we know what they did. Okay, enter 60. Enter the Wall Street Journal. I like the Wall Street Journal. I get it delivered to my home every morning. Wall Street Journal editorial page is factual, and it features a lot of very smart people, and I learned something. It's the best editorial page in the country. But today's editorial, I disagree with, and I want to let you know why. Okay, so they say that 60 Minutes

is fine, what they did is okay, and Trump's foolish for suing them. Quote, what raises his eyebrows is that Mr. Trump is also suing the network, demanding damages of Mike Myers' Dr. Evil Voice here, $20 billion. I'm sorry, I think I said million, it's billion. CBS edited the interview to make Kamala seem more concise and intelligent, which she is not the Trump lawsuit said. It approvingly cites the FCC complaint. News reports say the CBS parent company, Paramount, is in talks to settle the lawsuit as a way to heal a Trump grievance while it seeks to merge with Sky Dance media.

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It's vital to you, to your vote. There are a lot of people who don't know what the deuce is going on in this country. So is Trump want to intimidate the media? I think he wants to destroy the media as it is now. He believes it's fake news across the board except for a few outlets. And he wants to batter them and bludgeon them, and he is. But is that wrong? No.

I've been treated so unfairly by the corporate media throughout my career, 50 years, it's staggering. I know how crooked they are. And I fought back. But Trump got a lot more power than I do. And he is exposing this. Now, the final word on it is that CBS News is not going to recover ever from this, ever. They're done as a news organization that is trusted as a Walter Kronkite-driven organization. It's starting to go downhill under Dan Rather. But now it's done, as is NBC News because of MSNBC, as is CNN, they can't recover. And ABC News, it's a left-wing culture over there, but I don't know if there is damage as NBC and CBS. But still, the numbers, the viewers are just declining all across the board.

And that's a memo. All right, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green. We invited her on the program and she doesn't want to come on. Maybe she'll change her mind. I don't think she likes me. Maybe I'm taking it personally. Well, she as the chairwoman of the Doge subcommittee in the House Oversight Committee, Ms. Green. And she is calling on NPR PBS to appear before the committee because she wants to take.

the federal money all $535 million a year of it away from NPR and PBS because their left-wing organizations, which they are. So I hope Ms. Green will come on a program and explain what she's going to do. But there's a number of bills already to try to get that tax money out. And I've done this for decades. There's no way. If you watched that Frontline episode during the Trump-Harris campaign, it was disgraceful. They loved Kamala and they didn't use one person in one hour that boosted Trump. Come on.

You couldn't find anybody. Frontline. I paid for that. No. Also, PBS is. cave to President Trump, they're closing their DEI office. And I try to find out how many people work in a PBS DEI office. We don't know yet, but the two executives, Cecilia Loving and somebody else, they're out.

So they're going to, and they're going to lose their subsidy. PBS and EPA are going to lose it. They ought to compete in the marketplace. They got concerts and kids program. Okay. Okay. Compete. You don't need my money.

And joining us now from Chevy Chase, Maryland. The guy used to work from public broadcasting corporations. His name is Michael Pack. He's the president of Palladium Pictures right now. And he held the title of CEO for U.S. agency and global media, in addition to being the VP for TV programming at PBS. So he knows what he's talking about. So am I making any mistakes here?

Am I being too mean to PBS, NPR? No, not exactly. Yeah, I was the senior vice president of corporation for public broadcasting, but perhaps just as relevantly, I've made over 15 documentaries, all of which have been nationally broadcast on public television. The last one was about Clarence Thomas. It was called Created Equal, Clarence Thomas in his own words. And that film was treated very fairly, but it is definitely the case that PBS and NPR are left-leaning organizations. It's obvious from their programming, just as you have said, Bill. Why is that a fact?

What happened there? What is the culture there? How did it happen? I think it was more or less like that from the beginning. I mean, it's not dissimilar to the rest of the legacy media. You've just talked about other broadcasters. The difference really is that PBS and NPR get public money, and CPB, which is the institution that gets the federal money,

is obligated to ensure that public broadcasts. Casting is objective and balanced, whereas CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC are not legally obliged to do that. But it's not balanced. But it's not. No. And everybody, I don't see it is one person in this country, Mr. Pack. I don't know anybody. Even the liberal people, the progressive people, they're not going to say, hey, they're

balanced over there at NPR. It's ridiculous. The whole thing is absurd. Well, absolutely. And I myself was personally attacked by NPR quite a lot when I was in the first. Trump administration, as you mentioned a few minutes ago, running the U.S. agency for global media, which oversees the Voice of America, et cetera. Why were you attacked?

What did they attack you for? Well, they attacked me for that. That is another organization that gets federal money that should be fair. And during the presidential election, they were putting on things that were pro-Biden and unbalanced. And my idea was they should get back to being fair. And they should be presenting American ideals to the world and promoting American values. and they have strayed from their mission.

And NPR did not like that. And then my predecessor had become president of NPR, and he had particular bias. Okay, so he didn't like you when he was out to get you. And that's not unusual in the media. No, but it's more than that. I mean, I think they were out to get President Trump,

actually, more than me personally. I don't know of any show on PBS or NPR that's ever said that Trump should be elected or Trump was a good president for a time around. And if I'm wrong, if I missed it, I want people to tell me, Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com. But I, you know, I don't watch them every, go ahead. I think it's gotten worse over the years, actually, though, Bill. I mean, I think in the old days at NPR, they would interview four people, and one would be a Republican, and three would be Democrats.

Now, on their panels, there are no Republicans, as I think you pointed out earlier. So it's really shifted. And I think that some sense, public broadcasting feels like they could withstand attacks. threats to take their money away. They've done it before. Newt Gingrich threatened to take away their money in the 90s. And they feel that they have 400 stations around the country. Their boards are bipartisan. They're always able to get their congressmen to push for them. And they've withstood it in the past. Well, the Democrats are going to stick up for them. There's no doubt about it. But now with two houses, Republican, they should be able to get that money out of there.

But you never know. But it's interesting because Fox News, does the same thing. It stacks four conservatives and then one liberal. But Fox News isn't getting our money. That's right. I mean, if they want to do that and it's working for them, obviously, but they can do it. But if NPR and PBS are getting our money and Donald Trump gets nearly 80 million votes, they're disenfranchising 80 million Americans, NPR and PBS are disenfranchising them. And that is absolutely wrong. It's wrong morally. It's wrong historically. It's wrong in every way. Last word. Well, I think they've had this morning for many years. Public broadcasting has. And when I was there, there was some effort to bring in diversity of viewpoints. And they are, in theory, committed to

diversity of viewpoints. But they have done very little over the past several decades. And now those chickens are coming home to roost, and we will see what happens. All right, I don't want to pay for the chickens. Let the chickens put themselves. All right, Mr. Pack, thanks very much. We appreciate it. Now, over in Disney, a very, very powerful company, Disney, because it's not just media, but they control ABC News, as you know. Okay, so they, you know, I've been telling you that I think there's going to be changes at the view because it's so hateful. And again, Disney can do what it wants, because it isn't taking.

making our money. They can do whatever it wants to do. But when you're hateful on that program, it goes over into all your other enterprises. All of the other Disney properties are influenced negatively by the hate. I mean, another example, is Anna DeVarro absolutely the worst. How did she ever got there? It's never done anything I can see in her whole entire life, but she's there. This is what she says after the Super Bowl. Go. I think today Donald Trump is going to sign an executive order banning black people

from halftime. Because, you remember last week we were talking about whether the NFL was capitulating to Trump by removing the term and racism from the end zone? Boy, did they not capitulate to Trump. Okay. They had a halftime show that was incomprehensible with all due respect to Kendrick Lamar. I mean, maybe he's the most talented guy in a world, but I couldn't understand a word he said. And I don't believe that rap, music, is embraced by any more than 15% of the American population. And I don't care that he was there. That didn't offend me. But then she takes it over into Trump is going to ban black people from half. You know, she tried to make a joke. I understand it.

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And interestingly enough When that was first reported The Conservative news That reported it said that she said it seriously. She did. So this cuts both ways. But the point is, on the view, they hate the president of the United States.

It's not that they disagree with him. They hate him. And Disney keeps... All Disney executives had to do, Iger has to do, is come to New York because he's in Burbank, California, and say, look, we want to keep the show on the air. This is Iger now. but you're going to have to knock off the hate and if you can't then I want you to resign

that's all you've got to do now also there is a report from touring plans.com that most American families cannot afford to go to the Disney theme parks anymore so the data is pretty stunning it will cost you to go to Disneyland or Disney World according to this website between 714 $1,800 a day for a family of four. If you stay a week, it's up to $11,000 to vacation at a Disney property. Now if you're paying more than $1,000 a day, and that's not hard to do because you want to get that fast pass and all that other business that the Disney people have, or you've

got to wait in a hot sun in Orlando for two hours to get into the rides your kids want to go on. If you're going to pay $1,000 a day, I mean, that's serious money. Most people don't have that kind of money. Now, Disney could moderate that, but it doesn't, because he can get it, but it shuts out the poor and the working class. All right, President Trump's schedule, he met with the King of Jordan and the Crown Prince, King Abdullah, Crown Prince Hussein. This is all about the Gaza thing and none of the Arab countries going to take the Gaza. I don't think. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see it. They're not going to take those refugees because it caused a lot of money, cause it trouble. They've never done it. The Arab countries have

never done it. And I don't think you're going to do it now. U.S. foreign aid. So in 2003 last stats we have, about 72 billion taxpayer dollars went from Washington. overseas. Seventy-two billion, big number. Okay. All right. Ukraine got about 17 billion. Another big number. This is under Biden. Okay. The top five recipients of foreign aid outside of Ukraine were Israel, number one, Ethiopia, number two, Jordan, and they're there now, Afghanistan, and Somalia. Now, why would we sending foreign aid to Afghanistan or our enemy? Why? And Somalias are enemy too. They're controlled by jihadists over there. So this is Biden. And Biden is chucking the money out. Doesn't know what he's doing. Believe me, there's so many things coming out about Biden. This time next year, you're going to be stunned. But that's the hard data on that. RFK Jr. looks like he's going to be confirmed. I predicted he would not be.

So I'm wrong. So Susan Collins, the Republican Senate for Maine, says you're going to vote for him, and that's it. So Collins is going to get him in there. I wouldn't vote for him. I've told you guys that. I don't believe he's qualified to be in that position, and then I don't think he's a stable individual.

But, hey, I'm in the minority. Gavin Newsom. You got to love this guy. So Newsom needs federal dollars after the wildfires. He needs big federal dollars because the infrastructure in Los Angeles collapsed. Water, you know, they can't fight the fires, and he needs money from Trump. Okay, he goes out and Trump treats him very well, I thought, on that meeting on the tarmac. And, you know, they didn't even.

tell each other, well, it was professional. But now Newsom signs of $50 million special legislative bill, Trump proofing. All right, $25 million, and this is taxpayer money out there in California, goes to California Department of Justice to support legal battles against Trump's policies, to sue them. And $25 million goes for legal aid groups to assist illegal immigrants who may be deported. So if I'm President Trump, and I see Newsom sign this order, what do I do?

Do you not send the federal money, and then these people got burned out and lost everything, suffer? Do you hurt the people? Boy, this is really, really a complicated issue for Mr. Trump, because he doesn't want to hurt those people. But Newsom is so obnoxious. So I think I give the aid directly to the fire victims, but I cut off other federal funding into the state of California because he's not going to obey immigration law, Newsom. You might arrest him, but you'd have to have a direct correlation. Newsom would have to do something to impede a federal investigation himself, not just an order, and then you could arrest him. But boy, oh boy, what a mess out there.

Violent crime in California, no shock, it's up big. This is from the Public Policy Institute of California, based in San Francisco. You know, because we don't prosecute crimes here anymore, everything is up. Violent crime is up. Rapes decrease, but everything else is pretty much up. Otheser Up, burglaries, larcenies, assaults, you name it, aggravated assaults, because they don't prosecute it. Like New York, New York City.

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Average car payment for Americans is $452 a month. That's a lot. Okay. Insurance is up crazy. 50% rise over the past four years. Thank you, Joe Biden. Thanks, Joe. 50%.

You're paying more for car insurance than you did when Trump was president for a summer run. Hey, Joe, thanks. But all right, 20% of Americans lease cars, the rest own them. And so people go, look, I'm going to put off the purchase. That's going to hurt the economy. My car is eight years old. And I'm keeping it. And it's a Cadillac, and it's a great car, General Motors.

Cadillac, fabulous car, keeping it. Works great. I got to take. Here's how old a car. the car is. I got a tape deck in it. That's how old it is. Now, I have another reason for not buying a new car. I can't work all the gizmos. I just can't. I can barely put gas in my caddy. And you buy a new car. It's got this and that and the guys are people talking to you. No, you can't. I just want to drive from point A to point B. I don't need somebody

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Ships Registry Bahamas. Dane, this is great. Thousands of Danes over in Denmark, Copenhagen is the capital, signed a petition to buy California. So you know that Trump wants to take over Greenland. Okay. So they go, okay, we want to buy California.

They're trying to raise a trillion dollars. That would be $28,000. a person in Denmark. Of course, they don't have 28,000 because people in Denmark don't have any money because it's socialism and they get cradle of a grave entitlement. So this is like a big joke. But here's my solution to it. I want to trade. So we'll trade Denmark, California, for Greenland. Straight up. Maybe a player to be named later. It said Newsom over there. We'll throw Newsom in, and he can go over to Copenhagen. They'll take California, because California's in debt, tremendous debts.

Let the Danes have that, and we'll take all the minerals up in Greenland. Does that make sense to you? I like the sense of humor here, you know? And remember, if you are going to go to Denmark, you've got to like herring. Herring's big. Ooh, I never got the herring thing. Stay in History. February 11, 2012, Whitney Houston dies. Terrible story, you know it. She, one of the most successful singers in history, earned $250 million over a 25-year career, drug addict.

So she's in the Beverly Hilton Hotel, and she's taking cocaine or something, and she dies in the best. bathtub. The coroner says it was heart disease and cocaine use. Okay, she drowned. You have to be, to drown a bathtub, you've got to be totally stoned. So she was, and she's dead. And I remember when I heard the story, it's 48 years old, and a woman top of her should have been in a prime, and she was one of the best singers of all time. Go. I'm going to feel my peace with somebody. Yeah, I'm going to dance with somebody to love me. All right, self-destructive, so many of them are.

But here's the kicker on this. So her daughter, two years later, Bobby Christina, dies the same way. Okay? drowns in a bathtub after ingesting drugs and alcohol so if you and are a parent and you're intoxicating yourself in front of your children you guys are they're gonna do it okay and there's no excuse for that none so terrible story I remember seeing Whitney Houston in Boston on Boston Common, way back in the 80s, and boy, she was good. And I lived in an apartment in Fort Lee, New Jersey when I was with ABC News.

She lived right above me in the same apartment complex. I never saw her. I used to ask the doorman, where's Whitney? You know, I want to introduce myself with you. Very strange. Okay. You know, I'm trying to make these final thoughts provocative now. And because we have a lot to tell you that I can't fit into the show.

So I'm going to use this. So I'm going to talk about the Gulf of America in the final thought. Right back. All right. The final thought today is the Gulf of America. Google now says we're changing the name officially on Google. from the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. And as you may remember, President Trump said last Sunday was Gulf of America Day.

I don't know what that comprised, but anyway. So the Gulf of Mexico was first named by Spanish explorers, because there was no America. But there was a Mexico. Okay? Remember that we were run by England, by Great Britain. but Mexico was Mexico, and the Spanish ran it, and then the French ran it, and then, you know, but Mexico was there. So it was the Gulf of Mexico, and I put it on a map.

The earliest map we could find is 1552, 1552, Gulf of Mexico. But now Donald Trump wants it to be the Gulf of America. So to me, I'm a historian and a traditionalist. keeping the Gulf of Mexico. Just a preference. I'm not angry that Google put Gulf of America. I'm not angry President Trump wants to be Gulf of America. But I like Gulf of Mexico because that's the history of it.

That's what the Spanish explorer has named it. So I'm staying with it. You know, I don't want to change history. I like to keep it that way. Now, that's on me, I understand, and you probably have a different point of view. But when I go down in the Caribbean, now I'm going to go to the Gulf of Mexico. And so one of my favorite islands is Anguilla, and I'm going to go down. I have a trip on an early summer down there because I've got to get under the water.

I haven't been under the water with the little snorkel outfit, and I don't think I'm going to scuba, but I'll definitely do a lot of snorkeling. Maybe I'll do a snuba. You know what that is? Snuba is where you have a mask and you have a tank, but the tank has a big wire on it. And it's not on your back. It's not like a raft above you.

It's good. It's easier, much easier. You do have to do all the, you do have to do the weight belt, but it's so much easier. I might do that. But anyway, I'm going to go to the Gulf of Mexico. to do some diving, get under the water, because I'd love to do that.

And the cell phones don't work down there. That's the best part of it. Anyway, thank you for watching and listening to the NoSpin News. See you again tomorrow.