Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Fallout From Daniel Penny's Acquittal, Can Trump End Birthright Citizenship?, San Diego's Deportation Showdown, South Carolina AG Alan Wilson on a Trans Ban for Minors, & Blocking Illegal Migrants From Free Healthcare
Episode Date: December 12, 2024Tonight's rundown: Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Wednesday, December 11, 2024. Stand Up for Your Country. Talking Points Memo: Despite th...e jury's verdict, Bill explains how Daniel Penny's life will not be the same and how the case highlights the growing fear of helping others. Donald Trump has stated that he wants to end birthright citizenship on his first day in office. Can this be done? South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson joins the No Spin News to discuss the controversies surrounding gender-affirming care for minors and the decision to block Obamacare coverage for illegal immigrants. San Diego County votes to expand sanctuary policies ahead of Trump's deportation push. This Day in History: Trump, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer's Oval Office fight. Final Thought: What does it mean to be woke? In Case You Missed It: Read Bill's latest column, Let's Get Physical THE ULTIMATE KILLING SPECIAL. Get Confronting the Presidents PLUS the entire bestselling Killing Series. All 14 books for only $325. SHOP HERE. Get Bill's latest book, CONFRONTING THE PRESIDENTS, out NOW! Read the latest press release about Bill O'Reilly's bestselling Not Woke Gear. Now's the time to get a Premium or Concierge Membership to BillOReilly.com, the only place for honest news analysis. Check out the NEW Not Woke Shop! We’ve got Not Woke t-shirts, polos, bumper stickers, and our signature Not Woke coffee mug. Get yours today and stand out from the crowd! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Bill O'Reilly here.
Welcome to the No Spin News, Wednesday, December 11, 2024, stand up for your country.
So Secretary of State Blinken testified today in front of the House Foreign Services Committee.
Blinken had dodged that for about a year, because he knew he was going to be asked about
Afghanistan. He has no answer. He blamed on Trump. But I want to read the transcript before
I analyze Blinken. See, we're different than the cable news pinheads. They don't analyze anything.
If you're a Republican, you think that Blinken's a moron. If you're a Democrat, everything's Trump's
fault. We don't do that here. So I'm going to take some time and look at exactly what
Blinken said, and tomorrow, I will analyze whether he's telling you the truth or not.
Okay?
I know a lot about the story.
I was in, you might remember, in Afghanistan, reporting over there for a stretch.
Not a long time, but, boy, we did a lot while we were there.
And so I know the turf a little bit.
I got a lot to tell you about today.
A lot of different things.
We have the Attorney General of South Carolina on, who's involved with two big stories,
the trans ban for the minors and the undocumented migrants getting free health care in America.
Two big emotional stories. We're very pleased to have him.
But first, the talking points memo is the fallout from Daniel Penny's acquittal.
So you all know the story, I hope, by now, a 26-year-old former Marine riding a subway, May 1st, 2023, 30-year-old,
Neely, a mentally ill person gets on and starts threatening people, screaming in their face,
everybody's afraid. Penny takes them down, gets him in a hold, and this guy nearly dies.
He had 42 arrests, including convictions of beating up two elderly people. He had drugs in his
bloodstream. Jury found Penny not guilty of negligent homicide. And what was the other
charge that he found a negligent homicide and manslaughter, second degree manslaughter, not guilty.
We have to respect the jury.
I've respected pretty much every jury except for the O.J. Simpson.
And I'm going to tell you about that someday.
That was ridiculous.
What those people in Los Angeles did, but let's stay on this.
Okay, so Penny himself, not a grandstander, but he did make a few statements about the situation.
Roll of tape.
You know, this is a, this was a scary situation.
And Mr. Jr. Lee came on.
He was, he was threatening.
He's, I'm 6'2 and he was taller than me.
So it was, and there's a common misconception that Marines don't get scared.
We're actually taught one of our core values is courage.
And courage is not the absence of fear, but how you handle fear.
And, you know, I was scared for myself, but I looked around.
I saw women and children.
He was yelling in their faces saying,
saying these threats, I couldn't just sit still.
Okay, jury bought it, not guilty.
Now he has to face a civil lawsuit from the family of Jordan Ely,
which is absurd that family should be suing the city, state of New York,
not Daniel Penny.
Anyway, most Americans haven't ridden in New York City subway,
but those of us who live here know, it's dangerous.
Okay, so far this year, 24, been more than 2,000 serious.
serious crimes committed on a subway.
It's 2,000.
Nine murders.
Everybody knows that if you get in a subway car and there's a mentally ill raving person,
that person could have a knife because the mentally ill and the criminal element carry knives
to defend themselves against other criminals, particularly if you're in a drug world.
Everybody knows all this.
So for Penny to step up, put himself at risk.
That's pretty heroic.
Most people, 90% of them, would not.
Now, we Christians are taught to be good Samaritans,
but something like this just wipes out that kind
because you're going to be thinking,
well, if I help, if I get involved, I'm going to get punished.
Thank you, Alvin Bragg, the DA,
who should be fired immediately by Governor Hokel,
but, you know, there are two peas in a pod,
ideological pod, to use a cliche.
But anyway,
So it's dangerous and people are on edge when they're going to work coming home.
A lot of people have to use the subways in New York City.
Have to.
Not an option.
And you get on there and you are powerless because the authorities New York will not detain
people like Jordan Neely.
They just let them walk around hurting people.
And it's been going on for years.
Social order in New York City has collapsed because of the people.
a progressive leadership. The governor, the mayor, the DAs, they don't care. Couldn't care less
about public safety. But the people voted them in. So anyway, I'm very worried about the
cascade here of people not helping other people. And I'm a guy who gets involved when I see
some wrong, but even me, if I'm facing, you know, a 30-year-old who's raving and screaming,
and I know these odds are he might have a knife.
It's a tough call.
Now, what tilted me into Daniel Penny's corner
was not ideology, it wasn't anything else.
It was the testimony of a woman on the train with Penny.
I think this guy's on drugs, you know,
because when he came in, he was unbelievably off the charge.
He scared the living daylights out of everyone.
That is just a regular person.
Day, that's not somebody who's like got an agenda.
Oh, come on.
And finally, Penny's legal defense has raised about $3.5 million through the GoFundMe stuff.
And that's because generous people like you.
So he's not going to be wiped out.
But again, if you get involved with these things, you can get sued.
All kinds of things can happen to you.
Wipes out the Good Samaritan.
So, Penny will be okay, I think, but his life will never be the same.
And obviously, Jordan Neely, who desperately needed help, which his family didn't compel him
again, okay, he's in the grave.
That's a memo.
All right, let's go to the national scene.
We got President Biden, the first lady, having some kind of women's conference to the White House.
Okay.
Donald Trump, not doing much today.
other than working at Mar-a-Lago.
He is working.
I talked to him yesterday.
I'll give you a little preview of that conversation tomorrow.
And he was really on his game.
Donald Trump was on his game when I spoke with him yesterday.
But he's going to the Army Navy game on Saturday in Philly.
And I might go to New York City.
I hope he doesn't drive the ride to subways.
Another controversy involving President Trump,
he wants to be earned and birthright citizenship he's not going to be able to do it
the president does not have that power can you i'm going to walk you through this
so the 14th amendment to the constitution says this quote all persons born and naturalized
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Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property that due process of law,
14th Amendment.
And that was put in 1868 because slaves were being threatened.
Former slaves freed by Abraham Lincoln in the North were being threatened.
in the South, with expulsion, with all kinds of things.
So Congress passed the 14th Amendment.
It means you're born here, you're a citizen.
Even if your parents are illegal.
Now, the only way, or even the bus for that matter,
to stop that so-called birthright citizenship is to overturn the 14th Amendment.
It's two ways you can do it.
Three-quarters vote in the House and the Senate,
which you'll never get.
Was that Penny's form?
Today, that would never happen.
he says no okay because the democrats and what's up to believe the jury or three quarters of the
states themselves a hundred percent state legislature say we want this amendment out of the
testimony the last amendment overturned was prohibition 133 that's how difficult it is to overturn it
so this birthright citizenship is not going to end and that's just the way it is that's our
Constitution um that is my belief now you all right two uh interesting federal court cases uh that
we're going to have the attorney general south carolina comment on i hope first is tennessee
so in tennessee and other states the law bans medical treatments such as puberty blockers
and hormones are people under the age of 18 experiencing gender dysphoria
okay if those treatments are prescribed to help them transition so if you're a minor
In Tennessee and South Carolina and other states, you can't get this treatment.
I like the law because kids make foolish decisions all the time.
However, a married couple, Samantha and Brian Williams of Nashville, Tennessee, they are fine with their 15-year-old daughter transitioning.
All right?
So she is a transgender girl.
And they want her to continue.
with all of this puberty blockers and stuff like that.
They've sued.
The Biden administration has backed them.
The Justice Department is backing the lawsuit against Tennessee.
And this is why common law is lost.
This is why Joe Biden's going to be down on history as a second worst president of all time.
This doesn't make any sense in my humble opinion.
The other case is undocumented migrants getting free government health care, Obama care.
Okay.
So this has been blocked now by U.S. District Court judge in North Dakota, Daniel Trayton.
He basically says, if you are in this country illegally, you are not to get free health care paid for by the government, state, or federal.
Joining us now from Washington, D.C. is the aforementioned Attorney General of South Carolina, Alan Wilson.
Please to have you.
We're going to do a broader view of the fairness thing in Tennessee, South Carolina, and other states.
Parents say, hey, we don't care.
In fact, we want our child to transition.
It doesn't matter from male, the female and female, the mayor.
And you, the state, have no right to stop that.
And you say?
Well, first off, the states have an inherent general police power to do all kinds of things.
We regulate the practice of medicine as a profession.
That has done at the state level, not the federal level.
You know, states have, has been upheld by the Supreme Court, states can pass reasonable restrictions on when a minor can ride in the front scene of a car, when a minor can buy tobacco, when a minor can consume alcohol, when a minor can even consent to having sex.
This state of Tennessee, South Carolina, and 23 other states have passed laws passing restrictions on something that is far worse than those things I just mentioned, an irreversible procedure that can never be turned back.
hormones engaging in chemical castration or genital mutilation is something that cannot be undone.
The states have determined that is something we want to place a reasonable restriction on.
Again, this is not a parental rights issues.
Parents have the rights to raise their children however they deem fit.
But again, you can't withhold an education from your child.
You can't beat your child.
You can't put your infant in the front seat of a car in our state.
You certainly can't give your minor child alcohol.
So these are reasonable restrictions.
So the way you're framing this, though, if a parent or parents want their child to be able to transition, they're abusing that child.
That's really what I think.
Well, what I'm saying is that the state has a compelling interest to protect the health and welfare of its children.
And again, a parent taking their child out of school and never educating them or giving them alcohol when they're 10 years old could harm the health and welfare of their children.
I'm not necessarily accusing parents of, well, I personally think having your 10 or 12-year-old engage in gender transition surgery is child abuse, but if you believe that is the case, you know, then you can obviously raise your child however you want. You just can't have irreversible surgeries performed on them. That's all we're saying. And you're getting a third party involved. You're getting the state to sanction it. If the state doesn't, if the state says it's as the majority of states allow this.
So they're basically saying, we don't care.
If the parents are down with it, we'll go along.
What separates Tennessee, South Carolina, the other 23 states from the permissive states?
Because it's a big Gulf, I think, wouldn't you agree?
I haven't read every single gender transition law for minors in every state, but generally they're all the same.
There's very negligible differences.
Obviously, some states allow you to perform it as early as you want.
They're parents in some states, blue states, transition.
their children as early as two or three years old.
I mean, it's really, to me, that is real child abuse.
It's horrible.
But the states, remember, the states have inherent power, the authority, a general police power, to regulate themselves.
That's not a dispute.
You're going to win the case.
Supreme Court's going to rule 6.3 that the state data Tennessee and every other state
has a right to regulate this.
But I'm trying to get into the gulf between New York state, where I am now, and your state,
South Carolina. So you feel compelled to protect the miners there from a decision that you
rightly described as life altering can't be reversed. Yet the people here in New York,
they don't care. Can you explain that dichotomy? Listen, I cannot get in the head of somebody who
would support gender or genital mutilation and chemical castration on a minor child. I just can't, I can't do
But you don't know.
You never talk to anybody.
I don't have an answer.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's fascinating, though.
It really is because the Gulf is so huge.
Let's go to the undocumented Obamacare people.
Now, you know you're going to be accused of being heartless and putting these people at risk.
They're here.
And now the federal judge says, no, you can't, even if they don't have any money, we're not giving them health care.
How do you justify that?
Well, first off, I mean, it's the law. It's federal law. I mean, I can't imagine anyone in America expecting to go to any European country or Latin American country and expecting to live on their welfare system. Again, this isn't about being heartless. This is about following the law. I thought it was heartless to have the immigration policies that Biden and Harris had for the last four years, where you allowed tens of thousands, millions of people to en masse across the Rio Grande into the interior of the United States, releasing them. We can't find 300,000 minors right now who came across the state.
Southern Board. To me, that is heartless. And Bill, I want to remind you of something.
I take very personally, it was in 2009, a congressman on the floor of Congress yelled out at
the president, you lie when he said that no illegal aliens would ever receive taxpayer-funded
health care. That was someone I happened to be related to, Joe Wilson, if you remember.
And here we are. We have an administration then Vice President Biden, President Biden now,
doing exactly what the Democrats said they wouldn't do. Where does it end? It's a slippery slope,
that you can't fund the entire world's welfare program.
Now, listen, I understand that.
But if I'm sitting next to Pope Francis,
he's going to say, Mr. Attorney General,
these are human beings.
They don't have any money.
They're here probably shouldn't be,
but they're sick.
What do we do?
Well, I would tell Pope Francis you don't violate the law.
I mean, obviously, there's all kinds of social services.
There's faith-based groups.
There's organizations out there that can help those people in need.
But basically, when you basically reward people for committing a crime
and you incentivize more of that crime, the system can't withstand it.
It cannot hold up.
And we're just going to incentivize.
Ronald Reagan tried to deal with this 40 years ago.
It was supposed to be temporary.
Barack Obama did it again.
It's going to get worse and worse and worse.
We simply can't afford it.
Okay.
Fiscally, it is a huge problem.
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The Palmetto State, right? South Carolina, the Palmetto. Yes, sir. On January 2nd of this year,
the first workday of the year, I had a press conference with state and federal law enforcement
agents. We indicted 64 people and seized one and a half kilos of methamphetamine and
one kilo of fentanyl. By the way, one kilo, one kilo of fentanyl can kill half a million people.
All of it came from the south, across the southern border in conjunction with Mexican drug
cartels working with gangs. It came up through Atlanta into the upstate of South Carolina.
This is the fourth or fifth major drug conspiracy that we have prosecuted in the last three
years involving Mexican drug cartels piping in that poison into South Carolina. So it has a major
impact. Okay. How much of a problem is the trans kids in South Carolina? South Carolina is a red
state. It's a conservative state, church-going state, traditional value state. How much of a problem is that
trans thing for you? I mean, we have the population of trans is so minuscule. I don't even think.
Right. So it's more of a philosophical thing for South Carolina on the books than a thing that you're dealing with every day.
I mean, absolutely. But philosophical points matter. I mean, taking a stand on principle matters because it leads to other things in the future.
Obviously, if we don't win this case in the Supreme Court, what does that mean for men playing in women's sports and vice versa?
I mean, there is a slippery slope and the principle does matter.
Yeah, well, you're going to win. I mean, there's no way this court is going to take.
state's rights away for a dubious premise.
Because I agree with you.
I mean, I can't imagine because kids are kids, and they change.
You know, and if once they're over 18, okay.
But under 18, leave them alone.
Help them out, but whatever right.
All right you have a nice Christmas, Mr. Attorney General.
It's very nice of you to help us out today.
Merry Christmas.
All right, San Diego, one of my favorite places, but has gone increasingly left in recent years.
Okay, so San Diego County, the executive there, is a woman named Ebony Shelton.
All right, she is the power in San Diego County.
And she says yesterday that she is not going to obey Homeland.
security, even when criminal undocumented migrants are involved.
Not going to evict.
So he's setting up a sanctuary county and says to the federal government, blank you.
But I can't cooperate with you on any level.
Nothing.
I will say it again.
I'm the president.
I call Pam Bondi.
I say, please call the head of the FBI, probably be
Cash Patel, get Mr. Patel on a plane, flies into San Diego, gets in a fleet of caravan cars with other
FBI agents, goes to Ebony Shelton's home, accompanied by the media, knocks on the
door, and puts her in handcuffs, arrests her for interfering in a federal investigation.
First time she does it with a criminal.
First time I asked for San Diego County to hold somebody who's been charged with the crime who's here illegally, and they don't.
Ebony goes.
Telling you, that's it.
It's stopped dead.
I'm picking on Emmett, but could be Newsome.
Could be Michelle Wu in Boston.
Could be Governor Hokel here in New York.
Any of them. You do it? We're charging you.
Mitch McConnell, not a fan. You know that. He killed Kate's law single-handedly because of venal.
He didn't like the fact that a punk like me put the law up. I wouldn't put it up for a vote.
Don't like him, never liked him. I wish he would retire. He fell down again. It's the fifth time.
So, look, Senator, you're 82 years old, okay? It's the fifth time that you've fallen.
Spraying his wrist, got cuts on his face.
It's over.
It's over.
Do the right thing.
All right.
Get out of there.
For everybody's sake.
Boy, 82.
It's falling down.
Guy has never really been, you know, he's done some good things.
He's not totally bad.
But his day is over.
smart life speak well not good i speak good you know how many people use double negatives now
i mean just in the music industry alone the songs i don't got no if you speak well you will
earn more money command more respect and get things done a lot
quicker just the way you speak sends a message okay and so many people i know grammar is you know
i went there or i should have gone it's i should have gone not i should have went i made that mistake
into my 30s i should have went there no i should have gone there i'm being a snob i'm sorry i don't
mean to be a snob this is a smart life segment but it's important that you speak well that you figure
out the rules of the road, no double negatives. You can use slang, you can drop the G sometimes,
okay, but the better you speak, the more prosperous you will be, period. Now, we go to the word of the
year, according to Miriam's dictionary. Polarization is the word of 24. Polarization. Polarization.
Here are the past words.
23, authentic.
22 gaslighting.
21 vaccine, okay.
20 pandemic, we got it.
2019, they?
What does that mean?
They?
I don't know.
18 justice, 17 feminism.
16 surreal.
That's still around.
15 ism.
14 culture.
So the word of the year.
polarization, smart life. This day in history,
December 11, 2018. Now, you may
not remember, but this was a big one. Six years ago
today, meeting at the White House, Pelosi,
Schumer, Trump. The meeting was about
the border wall. President Trump said,
if you don't give me the money to build
the border wall, again, this is
December 11, 2018, then I'm going to allow the government to shut down.
We're not going to pass more short-term spending here.
Here's what happened.
Will the tape.
20 times you have called for I will shut down the government if I don't get my wool.
None of us have said it.
You want to know something?
You've said it.
Okay, you want to put that on my head.
I'll take it.
Okay, good.
You know what I'll say?
Yes.
if we don't get what we want one way or the other whether it's through you through a military through
anything you want to call i will shut down the government and i am proud and i'll tell you what
all right so he didn't get the money trump and he did shut down the government partially for 35 days
until january 25th 2019 was a standoff but then uh president trump said okay we have to continue
you want. I'll build 500 miles of the wall, which you did, but I can't get the money out of
Congress for the rest. So Schumer won, and Pelosi, of course, behind him. They want. And look
what happened. Look at the catastrophe that happened. Now, will Schumer and Pelosi admit
what a big mistake that was? No, because they don't care. Go about politics with them, power
policy. I don't care about you or me or even the undocumented people. They don't care about them.
Now, today, it's going to be the same thing. So once President Trump gets inaugurated on January
20th, he's going to go back and say, we're building a wall now. And this time he'll get it.
He'll get the funding because of Republicans control. So what Pelosi and Schumer did six years ago was
set the table for the defeat of their party this November. That's what they did. They couldn't
have seen it, but I knew it was going to be a disaster. But that happened six years ago today,
and all of us are a lot worse off for it. I think you'd agree. I'm back with a final thought
about the definition of woke. Okay, there's a final thought of the day. So, as we just said,
are not woke gears flying out of here.
But what exactly is woke?
So there's a definition of it, okay?
Aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues, especially
racial and social justice.
That's from the Miriam Dictionary, Webster Dictionary.
All right.
But what does that really mean?
If you are woke, there are two things it means.
You are virtue signaling.
You are trying to convince people that you are a noble human being,
that you have compassion, that you are a special, special, sensitive person.
Okay, that's what it is. It's personal.
There's also, I'm better than you, because I want all the illegal migrants
to be happy and to have everything and their people to,
but you want to restrict them.
So I'm a better human being than you.
That's built into this.
That's what virtue signaling is.
All right.
So these people, they don't regard any kind of reality,
no unintended consequences at all by an open border,
how much suffering, and how badly it's damaged the country.
It doesn't even, no, I, I'm compassionate.
I'm woke because I,
I'm just superior to you.
Where is this on display more?
There are two places in the country.
If you go there, you will see this all day long.
Boston, Massachusetts, just pick up the Boston Globe.
Okay?
Woke all day long.
Not the workers, not the blue collars.
They have the common sense up in Boston.
And Los Angeles, California.
I don't count San Francisco because that's a totally socialist, communist,
communist situation there.
It's much more complicated.
But Los Angeles, particularly in the entertainment community, you know they are.
But oh, we're so enlightened.
We're so enlightened.
So my suggestion is if you know somebody who's woke and you don't like that person,
They're annoying.
They send them a not woke tea.
Anonymous leaders drop it in their mailbox.
They'll be so annoyed.
I mean, you would like, and believe it on me.
You know, I got the shirt.
You throw it up there with me.
There I am.
Look at that.
We have a navy blue, too.
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It's a not woke corgi.
I'm exploiting Holly the Tara dog on, you know, but for a good cause.
We're paying our people very well this year.
Okay, that's it for us.
Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News.
We'll see tomorrow.