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Well, this is a true statement. Many people in this world are frightened. They live in that kind of a scared state all the time. And some of it's justified, depending on where you are. Some of it isn't. Most human beings are cautious. They're not, they don't live in a state of fear, but they don't, they're not bold.

I mean, they calculate before they move. But President Trump is not one of them. He is a gambler. And now his gamble on the American economy, the worldwide economy, really, is in question. I think that's all accurate. So let's run it down. So on April 30th, the Tuesday, I'll be co-anchoring

at Town Hall on News Nation about Donald Trump's first 100 days. Then the following Friday, three days later, I'll be doing an analysis with Leland Verde, an hour special on the 100 days. That'll just be me and Leland. The town hall is gonna be, you know, a big dog and pony, but I am going to be the traffic cop. So that's coming up.

It will surprise you what I have to tell you, because I'm researching it now, It's not going to be this same old stuff, and you'll be surprised. So that's coming up. So all this week, I'm basically zeroing in on what the president is doing, what he's accomplished, and what he has failed to do, all right? And we're going to do it in a very, as I said, methodical way. Now, the tariff situation and the economy and your 401K and investments, that is far and away.

the headline that exists today in America and all over the world, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points memo. So there is mass confusion. There is no doubt about that. It is very complicated. I have a master's degree in public administration from Harvard, which got slapped by Trump today, and we'll report that in a little while. And when I was studying in Cambridge, I hated macroeconomics. It was horrible because it was so difficult to learn all these systems. I forced myself to do it, and I know, I'm not saying I'm an economist, but I know how the world works. And most other people don't, including seasoned journalists. So you may remember last week we had a guy named Dr. Nicholas

Lardy. He was an expert on the Chinese economy. Very smart guy. And he disagree with me about how China is handling all the dollars it gets every year from the USA. So I'll remind you how much that is. We do $463 billion in trade with China. Okay? Four-six3. And then Chinese investment. They buy savings bonds. They buy land. They buy securities. That's $127 billion going back to China every year in interest, payments, and dividends, things like that. That's $600 billion a year. Going into Beijing, the Communist Party runs that economy. It's a colossal amount. Anyway, I believe, and I think I can prove it, but I believe strongly, much of that money, those dollars being used to build up the ferocious Chinese military.

And this is what Lardy and I discussed, Rowley. What about the war machine? Are you worried about the Chinese war machine? Well, they're ramping up their military expenditures, and it's been going on for a decade. Quite frankly, not very much of it is financed by the six or seven hundred billion we send to China. They have a, you know, their domestic economy is 12, 13 trillion. So a few hundred billion coming from the United States is not a decisive factor. Now, I did not call Lardi on that because they don't have the stats because the Chinese government doesn't put them out.

They don't say, hey, we spend this much on our military and this percentage coming from the USA. That doesn't happen in a communist regime. They do what they want and nobody knows about it. But yesterday, Victor Davis Hansen, who I believe is the strongest columnist in America, wrote this, quote, NATO, the EU, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and the U.S. are also curious as to why China is using its vast foreign exchange, not to lift about a quarter of its population out of third world level poverty. Instead, it is frantically building three to four nuclear bombs a month, a 700 ship Navy, and 2,500 combat aircraft as it ratches up pressure on Taiwan, unquote.

Well, there you go. Hansen agrees with me. Okay? And I don't know whether he heard my interview with Dr. Lardy might ask. but I don't think there's any doubt that U.S. dollars are fueling our enemies' military. Now, do you think most people know that? Has that been widely reported in the American press? No. People don't have a clue, not a scintilla, of what is going on here.

Trump knows, because I talk to them about it. All right. Now, I was on Leland Vitter's program on News Nation last night, and I'm on News Nation on Monday at 9 and with Cuomo Wednesdays 8-815. It's worth you guys checking that out. Anyway, Leland is a very smart guy with a lot of experience abroad, the foreign correspondent for Fox in the Middle East for a long time. And here's what we were talking about vis-a-vis the tariffs. Go. The money from tariffs doesn't come from overseas. The money for tariffs comes from all of us. And I think that's part of this inconsistency. You say it doesn't matter. That's not right, Leland. So the United States Treasury gets the money that Mercedes pays on the tariffs from its cars

coming into the USA. And that's what Trump wants. He wants more money coming in than going out. Now, he's not going to achieve that goal. It's impossible to achieve it. But he'll cut it 50, 60 percent, I'm pretty sure, over the next six months or so. Now, Leland, as I've said, is one of the smartest of the pundits on television. He doesn't know how it works. So I'm sitting here every night reporting to you and watching this insanity on television. It's the dumbest stuff I've ever heard. because the media has now made this into a political thing, not an economics thing.

Trump bad. Tariffs bad because Trump's bad. You have no idea what is happening in this world and how our enemies are being strengthened by this unfair trade system. You don't know. And worst of all, you don't care. And I'm talking to the network news and CNN and MSNBC, and to some extent, Fox. Because the mistake that Fox News makes is that it just rubber stamps everything Trump does.

You can't. You've got to cut through all of this special interest stuff and bring legitimate information and analysis and clarity to you, the American people. Okay, so I think we're doing a pretty good job of that. And the final thing in this whole thing is, Donald Trump knows this entire legacy is on the line here with this tariff stuff. If it succeeds in the American economy booms in the latter half of this year, which Trump believes will happen, okay? Then he's going to go down alongside Ronald Reagan. If our country falls into a recession, it is over for Trump's legacy. Put us in a box.

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But not only do you pay it if you want to buy some shoes in Italy, but American products shipped to the EU, all of them have to pay a tax, which is why they cost a lot. more in Europe than here. So if you wanted to buy a Ford automobile in America, it's 30% less to buy it here than to buy it over there because of the VAT tax. Every American import into the EU is taxed. All right, and here are the rates.

Italy, 22%, France, 20%, Germany, 19%. UK, 20%, Spain, 20%. Spain, 21%. So everything that we ship gets taxed at that rate so that the people who sell have to charge 20% more. And they can't compete with the domestics of which is what the game is. So Europeans don't buy a lot of American stuff. I remember one time I was in Sweden and I had a Washington Redskins jacket before the Redskins went. Okay. Guy offered me a hundred bucks on a spot for the jacket. Jacket cost back here about 60, 60 bucks. I sold it to him. I did because I had another jacket. I just go back to the USA, buy another one. He goes,

give me that. I'll pay $100 for that jacket. Okay. And because he knew that it was unaffordable. And it weren't even into stores. American products are not even in the European stores because they're so expensive because of the VAT tax. Now, did you know any of that? That's how the European countries make their money. They tax everything you buy, and their own people have to pay it. All right, let's update you on the tariffs. Chinese President Xi Jinping is going to Vietnam, Malaysia, and Cambodia. Hey, President Xi, let me just break it to you. Those folks have no money at all. Okay, they cannot help you, not can buy your stuff because I don't have any money. All right. And so I don't know

where you're going there because, man, now maybe he's trying to sneak in Chinese goods under the Vietnamese label, but that's going to be easily exposed. So I don't even know what this is. You know, you, if China loses the U.S. market, And I still believe there's going to be a detente here. It's hosed. It's just screwed. Because we have the money. We buy the stuff.

The meleys aren't going to buy your stuff. They don't have any money. All right. So he's over there. Trump Economic Advisor Kevin Hassard says that dozens of tariff deals are going to be made shortly. And the quote is, the progress has been a. astonishing. Okay. Now, all of the other broadcasters after I just reported that would have said, we'll see. But I don't say we'll see because it's a cliche and it's stupid. This is what

President Trump is saying, told me directly. So Hasser is saying what the president is saying. Okay, let's get some other perspective on this. Now, you may know Eric Bolton, don't bring him in yet. I just want to give his back. background first. So Eric Bowling, when I was at the factor at Fox, he would sub for me, and the ratings would go down. But, you know, they went down for everybody. That's up for me. But he did a decent job. I mean, you know, he ran a show. And then he was over at a couple of other places. But his background is in economics. And he was a board member of the New York Mercantile Exchange, big shot in oil and gas trading. So he knows the economic work. world and he joins us now from west palm beach florida where he uh airs daily on real america's

voice dish youtube all of that internet stuff so bowling you okay down there in florida you're right us we miss you down here bill it's always good to have you in the studio walking around you look a lot a little like manager g crabs with the goatee but that's all right um it's okay that that that compliment was amazing especially coming from the guy who i did sit in for over 2503 times over 11 year period. So I must have been, ratings went down, but they must not have gone down that much, Mr. Bill O'Reilly. You know, when Juan Williams sat in for me, they really went down. But when you went, you weren't that bad. So look, I know you've had some discussions on your programs and you had some criticism about the tariffs. Where do you think they are now?

So I stand firm, Bill. I'm a free market, true, like complete free market tier. I just believe the government shouldn't get their hands in any form of the markets. Now, I do, again, let me qualify that with, I am really, really rooting for the Trump tariffs to work. I hope they do. I'm hearing they are, as Kevin Hastert said, it's going to be astounding when they start telling us what they've gotten or what they've received. My only issues, I just don't like government interfering in markets. And when I mean government, I mean our government also.

But if it's, again, if it's going to be used, I think they lost the messaging bill. Let me, let me reframe this. It came out where we're going to raise tariffs to the rest of the world to the level that they're charging us. And when they realize they can't do it anymore, their tariffs will come down and our tariffs will come down as well. At some point, it turned to, well, they're all begging to kind of kiss the ring and come, make a deal with us. Which was the wrong message for me as a free marketeer. He got back on message recently over the weekend and said, when they lower them, we'll lower them. And that's what I hope for. I hope for a global no tariff or a global 10% across the board in two directions.

Let's just cut through this. We have no control about China and what China's import tariffs are. We don't. So they can jack up their tariffs. And same thing with the EU. Hans and Franz can can buy stuff from the United States, we ship it over to Hans and Franz in Munich, and they slap a 20% VAT, value-ad of tax on it, which means Hans and Franz have to charge if they resell whatever they buy from us. They've got to slap 20% more on. They can't, American goods can't compete with the German-made goods. That's the game. We can't control it. So free marketing is really a myth. It isn't free. It's not free anywhere. So what Trump wanted to do, is basically say, we're not letting you rip us off anymore.

We're the biggest market in the world. We have the most money, the most consumers who can't spend, and you're going to play fair. It seems logical to me that that would be a good policy for the United States. But in order to get there, we have to suffer, and Americans don't want to suffer. That's where we are. Again, agree. And that is the theory.

And I hope it works. And I really do. I hope it doesn't push us into a global recession, which theoretically could happen. And I'm not suggesting we continue to have a trade imbalance and have a trade imbalance, a tariff imbalance with these countries. I'm simply saying there are ways to maybe negotiate other countries bringing down their tariffs. So give you an example, China charging us, whatever they want to charge us, whatever they've been charging us, because we don't even really know. We can talk about this number that they came up with with China's charging us at 32 percent, which. The honestly, they made that up, but they used a different metric, not what they told us. Regardless, what we could do is China needs oil, we have a ton of oil, we can produce more oil. We can say, China, you lower your export tariff, your import tariff, your import tariff, U.S. goods going to China, lower it to a reasonable number. Let's call it 20 percent, and we'll only put a 20 percent tariff on the oil. We'll send you, and we'll send you a ton of financial gas. That's what will eventually happen.

But China isn't benign, okay? They don't want to give up their unbelievable trade advantage, not only with the United States, but everywhere else. They don't want to give it up. But the mistake that I think the Trump administration made was this. They try to do it too fast. Instead of knocking down Canada and Mexico, then go into the EU, then going to China,

or whatever order you want to put it in. And along the way, explain every step, to the American people, which they could have done, all right? Instead of this tsunami all at once that panicked the worldwide markets that led to the stock market going down, they could have been a more gradual thing. And that's what I would have done. There's a third alternative. I agree with that.

There's a third alternative where they could have come up with, okay, so we buy a lot of garbage trinkets, crap, we buy a lot from China, right? And we sell them technology and important goods and whatnot. We could have gone out to the rest of the world, Taiwan, Vietnamese, you just mentioned them and say, you know what, you want to build a manufacturing plant there. We don't want to pay this 32%, 35% China tax anymore. We'll buy from you instead of them. Here it is.

The United States is the wealthiest consumer that we're a huge buyer walking into a mall. The world is the mall. We have this massive credit card with a triple. billions of dollars of credit on it. And we go, you know what, that store, China right there is charging too much for the same thing I can buy from that store over there, Taiwan. You know, I'm gonna go over there and watch what happens.

China drops their tariff, drops their price to compete for us. Everyone wants our dollar. That's a more, I would call it free market solution to drop in global terms. Okay, but that would be incredibly, incredibly complicated to do. Now, the video out of Taiwan just announced today,

It's going to build a big chip plant in the United States. That's a huge victory for the USA, by the way. Normandy, do you believe that? Do I believe that? Do I believe they will do it? Yes, I do believe that because you made the deal. The CEO made the deal directly with Trump. No, it's inconceivable that they wouldn't do it now. Well, so Apple says we're going to do a half a trillion dollars.

We're going to build here. These CEOs are catering, they're cowtowing to Howard, Nick, and the group and making a lot of promises, but we don't know if they're, I hope they do. And by the way, that's 10 years down the road, Bill. It's not, Nick. You don't build a chip manufacturing plant in the next two or three years. Look, the reason I believe it will happen is Trump can hurt them. Yes, Trump is out come 2028, but he can hurt them now if we don't see progress and fast progress. And he will. You go back on a deal with Trump, he's going to find away. Anyway, Bowling, we're glad you're doing well down there.

Retribution or revenge? If you lie to the President of the United States about intentions, that's retribution. You know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, came on me. That's retribution. Glad you're doing well down there in South Florida Bowling. Okay? We love it, Bill. Right? We'll talk soon again. Thanks for helping us out. Sir. Sanctuary cities, immigration. So another tough guy approach, President Trump, this is April 10th, true social quote. No more sanctuary cities. They protect the criminals, not the victims.

They're disgracing our country and are by mocked all over the world. Working on papers to withhold all federal funding for any city or state that allows these death traps to exist. Okay. So now we have zeroed in on three of the most egregious sanctuary cities. And there are, you know, there are 50 of them, but let's do. three. Chicago, Mayor Brandon Johnson, basically gives a finger to the federal government. All right. Chicago receives $2.5 billion in federal funds. $2.5 billion in federal grant money. And Trump's going to cut that off.

Now, some of that is summer food for poor kids. A lot of that, and you're going to hear a scream out of there. That's going to hurt that city. Boston. Wu. Okay? She's another one. It's basically says, I don't care what you say. We're not going to cooperate with you. 300 million. For Boston, it's not a big town. That's a lot of money. Housing, city services are the general things. And finally, Denver, Mike Johnston, another radical left mayor, 100 million, mostly for education. So President Trump's going to cut that money back. Now, there'll be lawsuits, you know that, everybody will sue, but look at Maine. That governor of Maine going to the Oval Office and saying to Trump, hey, I'm not going to do the trans athlete thing.

They're hurting, boy, because those lawsuits take a long time, and they cost the city and state to do that. They cost them a lot of money. So, just bringing it up today, he's going after the sanctuary cities. Kilmar Garcia, who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador. He is an El Salvadoran, 29 years old. He has a wife who's an American, five-year-old child is an American. He is now in El Salvador. The president of El Salvador came to Washington today.

Okay? The Supreme Court has ruled that the Trump administration's got to bring this guy back to the USA. say. But the Salvadoran president says he's not going to do it. And Trump and all of the administration people, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, said, we're not going to do it. So Mr. Garcia, he's over there. I don't know if he's in custody or not. Now, the Trump administration alleges he's MS-13 gang member. But if there were the case, case, why is he here legally? See, a judge in Maryland gave this man asylum privileges. He's in the asylum process now. And then the Supreme Court rules, you've got to be brought back. The Trump

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All right? You know how I feel about that. I don't know the guy. I don't know what the guy did. But if the Supreme Court says, bring them back, you bring them back. Back to Gavin Newsom, Governor California, very busy, very, very busy. He's out of money for Medi-Cal. Medi-Cal is Medicaid.

Okay? So they're out of money, ran out of money, even though they tax you Californians up to here. Not any money. Why don't they have any money? Because, listen to this. Illegal migrants are expected to receive this. year alone, $10 billion in health care costs from the state of California. So in addition, I think there's 53 million California's largest state, 10 million undocumented

getting their health care pay for. So they're out of money in Medi-Cal. So what Newsom is doing, he's taking $3 billion from another part of the California, but are already running record deficits out there. And he's putting it into Medi-Cal because they're broke because they're paying so many bills for the undocumented. Now, this is what you hear when Bernie Sanders says Republicans want to cut Medicaid.

So the Republican Party wants to pass legislation and says, if you're undocumented, you're not going to get Medicaid, Medi-Cal, whatever it's called. You don't get it. entitled to get it. That's legitimate. Let Congress vote on it. But Sanders goes, oh, no, they want to cut everybody's money. It's not true. See, you know, I spent 16 minutes now. We're 16 minutes into this broadcast, all right, giving you one corrupt thing after the other in this country. And I'm saying to myself, this has got to stop.

But the only way it's going to stop is for the courts to intervene. But California? Boy. Okay, now to President Biden. He's back. So he goes to Chicago to give a speech in front of advocates, counselors, and representatives for the disabled. That's a great cause. Okay?

Anything helping disabled people is excellent. So at the Sofetel Hotel in Chicago, a very safe venue. Very safe for Mr. Biden. So he gets up there and he meanders around and then he gets down to what he really wanted to talk about. Fewer than 100 days this new administration has made so much, done so much damage and so much destruction. It's kind of breathtaking you could happen that soon. I've taken a hatching to the Social Security Administration. pushing additional 7,000 employees, 7,000 out the door in that time,

including the most seasoned career officials. Now they're getting ready to push thousands more out the door. Already we can see the effects. All right, so we fact-checked them. The Trump administration wants to cut the Social Security Administration workforce from 57,000 to 50,000. They are offering buyouts, early retirements, all of that, and they are cutting some jobs.

Now, to me, if you have a $36 trillion debt, $36 trillion, you've got to cut. So this doesn't seem unreasonable to cut $7,000 out of a workforce of $57,000. Does it seem unreasonable to you to do that? Not to me, but would Biden and Sanders and all downy, he grabs, oh, they're going to cut your Social Security? See?

See what they do? So I knew that Biden was going to do that. Nobody, I didn't even see any coverage of Biden. I mean, the kind of Democrats are embarrassed by him now, but I thought you want to know. TARF latest. So I am involved with this to some extent as far as people asking my opinion at very high levels. And I give my opinion, all right, that I want this to calm down, this tariff stuff. I understand that the United States should stick up for itself worldwide economics. We're doing the right thing. How we're doing it needs to be re-examined. Because we don't want to hurt our own. And the stock market, as I pointed at the top of the program, gyrating wildly every day is not good. Okay.

So Italian Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney, comes to the United States tomorrow. She's a friend of Trump, a sympathizer with Trump. Okay. But Italy, doesn't pay its dues to NATO. They're way underpaid, and their tariffs at 21%. Now, I think Maloney is going to give President Trump what he wants. I think. I can't guarantee it. At the same time, I believe that Japan and the USA are very close to a deal on tariffs as well. And it's tough, tough market. They don't want to take a lot of American stuff over there. So I know for a fact that President Trump believes he's going to get these two deals done quickly,

and then others will follow. That's what the president believes. So you know. Something I found out this morning, I don't use anonymous sources, but I can't. burn my sources. I'm not going to. I'm just going to tell you this I found out. You can believe me or not. It doesn't really matter to me whether you believe me, by the way. I know that sounds a little harsh, but I don't mean it to. But when I tell you anything on this broadcast, I always say, I know this for sure, this is the truth, or I'm not sure, or I could be wrong. I, I,

I always bring context to it. This, I know, happened. China called the White House this morning. I don't know who in China. Might have been somebody would take out. I don't know. But I know that call came in. And that's a good thing.

But I don't know any more about it. I will. This is so hard. I don't want to feel sorry for me. I like what I do. But it's so hard to get this information because I can't report it to you unless I believe it's valid.

Unlike 98% of all the other journalists in the country who just throw stuff out, they don't know whether it's true or not. I won't do that. I don't want to mislead you, which is why we don't have to apologize here very much at all for anything. Smart life. Okay, interesting story. So I needed socks.

This is one of my favorite things going shopping for socks. And I don't know, I'd have to go. So they're Bloomingdale's. And there's the socks. So I go over, this would be easy, right? I'll get some socks. They're all made in China. All right.

Ralph Lauren, Polo, China, China, China, China. I would have taken Malaysia. I would have taken Honduras. I would have taken it. I'm not buying Chinese stuff. I'm not buying Chinese food. I don't even like Chinese food. Okay?

I'm not buying Chinese socks. So I had to walk out of it. There were no American socks. And so now if you see me on the street, I don't have any socks on, you know why. So this is about choices. If every American consumer would just stop and say, you know,

China's not our friend and I'm not going to buy any more Chinese stuff wouldn't have to have tariffs or anything like that nobody buys anything from China right okay

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Dallas. Well, not quite, but they're getting there. 11 minutes of flight time. They went 62 miles above the earth. Little weightlessness. And Lauren Sanchez, Katie Perry, the singer, Gail King, the CBS person, Amanda Nguyen, civil rights activist, Aisha Boe and Carrie Ann Flint. Aisha Bow is a former NASA person, and Carrie Ann Flynn is a film producer. So they all went into space. And I don't know really why they went, but they went. And it was for Gail King, you know, good publicity for the CBS morning show. Now, I asked my staff, I said, you know, I haven't heard about these morning shows.

Give me the ratings on them. Listen to this. This is incredible. So for the week of March 31st, that was what, two weeks ago, the CBS Morning Show, Gail King and two other guys, had less than two million viewers. Less than two million. Today's show had two six, two million six hundred thousand, and Good Morning America had two eight, and all of them were down from last year. And these are, these, and when I used to go on these shows to publicize my books, they were doing $5 million, $6 million, they're falling apart. And the reason is they're boring and they've alienated all the center-right people and all the conservative and traditional people because it's all liberal across the board, except for Jenna Bush.

She's not liberal, the daughter of President Bush the Younger. But the whole presentation is, you know, woke and people go, you know, when I get up in the morning, I'm already woke. I don't want more woke on television. So these shows are in trouble. Okay. Do you know what a procrastinator is? Yes, you know, somebody who puts off things. So a lot of people haven't made their vacation.

plans for summer yet. It's in middle of April. This is not good. But if you are going on vacation and you start late, here is what you can expect. Sky-high hotel rates. Highest in history. So you might look at the Airbnb or whatever that because hotels are going to kill you. It's ridiculous. It really is absurd. And then if you haven't booked your airline flight, Seats, there's a lot of people flying. And they've downgraded to smaller planes now. All right? So they're jammed.

And then, renter cars. If you want a rent a car, you show up, a lot of times they go, well, we don't have it. The earlier you book, the better opportunity you have that they will have it when you show up. But if you're late, you're going to get host. Now, I try to drive. You know, I have to go to Boston a lot, D.C. and I'll drive. I'll get in my car. Boom, boom, boom, boom. So much easier than to rent a car, the plane, the this, the that. So if you can drive your vacation, even if it's like 12, 13 hours, you kind of break it up, that is a better play because it's going to be very expensive and crowded to vacation this year. One other tip, not a lot of foreign tourists coming to the USA. That's way down because of the tariff stuff.

But it's being made up by Americans wanting to go to the national parks and all that. So the final thought of the day is get on it this weekend. Lay it out is what I want to do, is what I want to do it, make it happen. Thank you very much for watching and listening to the No Spin News. We'll see you again tomorrow.