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I got a lot to tell you about today, a lot of different things. We have the Attorney General of South Carolina on, who's involved with two big stories, the trans ban for the minors and the undocumented migrants getting free health care in America. Two big emotional stories. We're very pleased to have him. But first, the talking points memo is the fallout from Daniel Penny's acquittal. So you all know the story, I hope, by now, a 26-year-old former Marine riding a subway, May 1st, 20203, 30-year-old Jordan Neely, a mentally ill person gets on, starts threatening people, screaming in their face. Everybody's afraid.

Penny takes him down, gets him in a hold, and this guy nearly dies. He had 42 arrests, including convictions of beating up two elderly people. He had drugs in his bloodstream. The jury found Penny not guilty of negligent homicide and what was the other charge that he found? Negligent homicide and manslaughter, second-degree manslaughter, not guilty. have to respect the jury. I've respected pretty much every jury except for the O.J. Simpson, and I'm going to tell you about that someday. That was ridiculous. What those people in Los Angeles did, but let's stay on this. Okay, so Penny himself, not a grandstander, but he did make a few

statements about the situation. Roll of tape. You know, this is a, this was a scary situation, and Mr. Jr. came on. He was, he was threatening. I'm 6-2 and he was taller than me. So it was, and there's a common misconception that Marines don't get scared. We're actually taught one of our core values is courage. And courage is not the absence of fear, but how you handle fear. And, you know, I was scared for myself, but I looked around. I saw women and children. He was yelling in their faces saying these threats.

I couldn't just sit still. Okay. Jury bought it, not guilty. Now he has to face a civil lawsuit from the family of, Jordan Ely, which is absurd that family should be suing the city of state of New York, not Daniel Penny. Anyway, most Americans haven't ridden in New York City subway, but those of us who live here know, it's dangerous. Okay, so far this year, 24, been more than 2,000 serious crimes committed on a subway. It's 2,000. Nine murders. Everybody knows that if you get in a subway car

and there's a mentally ill raving person, that person could have a knife. Because the mentally ill and the criminal element carry knives to defend themselves against other criminals, particularly if you're in a drug world. Everybody knows all this. So for Penny to step up, put himself at risk,

that's pretty heroic. Most people, 90% of them, would not. Now, we Christians are taught to be good Samaritans, but something like this just wipes out that kind because you're going to be thinking, well, if I help, if I get involved, I'm going to get punished. Thank you, Alvin Bragg, the DA,

who should be fired immediately by Governor Hokel, but, you know, there are two peas in a pod, ideological pod to use a cliche. But anyway, so it's dangerous. And people are on edge when they're going to work, coming home. A lot of people have to use a suburb. ways in New York City. Have to. Not an option. And you get on there and you are powerless

because the authorities New York will not detain people like Jordan Neely. They just let them walk around hurting people. And it's been going on for years. Social order in New York City has collapsed because of the progressive leadership. The governor, the mayor, the DAs, they don't care? Couldn't care less about public safety. But the people voted them in. So anyway, I'm very worried about the cascade here of people not helping other people. And I'm a guy who gets involved when I see some wrong. But even me, if I'm facing, you know, a 30-year-old who's raving and screaming, and I know these odds are he might have a knife. It's a tough call. Now, what tilted me into Daniel Penny's corner was not ideology, it wasn't anything else.

It was the testimony of a woman on the train with Penny. Go. I think this guy was on drugs, you know, because when he came in and he was unbelievably off the charge. He scared the living daylights out of everything. That is just a regular person. okay that's not somebody who's like got an agenda oh come on and finally penny's legal defense has raised about three and a half million dollars through the go-fund me stuff and that's because generous people like you so he's not going to be wiped out but again if you get

involved with these things you can get sued you can all kinds of things can happen to you wipes out the good Samaritans so penny will be okay I think but his life will never be the same. And obviously, Jordan Neely, who needed desperately needed help, which his family didn't compel him to get. Okay? He's in a grave. That's the memo.

Another controversy involving President Trump, he wants to end birthright citizenship. He's not going to be able to do it. The president does not have that power. I'm going to walk you through this. So the 14th Amendment to the Constitution says this. Quote, all persons born and naturalized in the USA, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside. No states shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States,

nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property that due process of law. Fourteenth Amendment. And that was put in in 1868 because slaves were being threatened. Former slaves, freed by Abraham Lincoln in the north, were being threatened in the south with expulsion, with all kinds of stuff. So Congress passed the 14th Amendment. That means you're born here, you're a citizen, even if your parents are illegal. Now, the only way to stop that so-called birthright citizenship is to overturn the 14th Amendment.

two ways you can do it. Three-quarters vote in the House and the Senate, which you'll never get today. That would never happen, okay, because the Democrats would stop it. Or three-quarters of the states themselves, state legislature, saying, we want this amendment out. The last amendment overturned was Prohibition, 1933. That's how difficult it is to overturn it. So, this birthright citizenship is not going to end. And that's just the way it is. That's our Constitution. All right.

Two interesting federal court cases that we're going to have the Attorney General of South Carolina comment on, I hope. First is Tennessee. So in Tennessee and other states, the law bans medical treatments such as puberty blockers and hormones for people under the age of 18 experiencing gender dysphoria. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver. Through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold.

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Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to turn into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't. So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2 p.m. East Coast every day. Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay. If those treatments are prescribed to help them transition. So if you're a minor in Tennessee and South Carolina and other states, you can't get this treatment. I like the law because kids makes foolish decisions all the time. However, um, A married couple, Samantha and Brian Williams of Nashville, Tennessee. They are fine with their 15-year-old daughter transitioning.

All right. So she is a transgender girl. And they want her to continue with all of this puberty blockers and stuff like that. They've sued. The Biden administration has backed them. The Justice Department is backing the lawsuit against Tennessee. And this is why Kamala Harris lost. This is why Joe Biden's going to be down on history as a second worst president of all time.

This doesn't make any sense, in my humble opinion. The other case is undocumented migrants getting free government health care, Obamacare. Okay, so this has been blocked now by U.S. District Court judge in North Dakota, Daniel Traynor. He basically says, if you are in this country illegally, you are not to get. get free health care paid for by the government, state, or federal. Joining us from New York City is one of the best lawyers in town. Name is Arthur Dahlia. I mispronounced it last time.

I Dala. I Dala. I Dala. Like a dollar bill. Like dollar bill, of which you charge many. Okay, I got it. All right, let's run them down. down Trump case, would you have filed this case? Would you have signed on to that case?

Here's the truth. You want to talk about money. Most of those cases you take on as a lawyer on a contingency fee. So you say, I won't get paid if I win. I would not take that case on a contingency fee because I don't, I think you're correct. I don't think they're going to win. During the discovery process, they may be able to get that transcript, part of evidence, as part of the discovery process. And unless CBS is successful in putting some sort of a gag order on that evidence, some sort of it's called a protective order, Trump could then release it and achieve the goal that he may want to achieve it. They may actually dismiss the case after that. Okay, we got what we want. We're done. But as a lawyer, you better make sure

you're getting paid up front because, as you said, Mr. O'Reilly, the First Amendment gives a lot protections to the press as it should. So I don't think ultimately he would be successful, even though they went to a venue where they knew the case was going to a judge that would be sympathetic to President Trump based on his political leaders and the fact that Trump appointees. But you said they might be able to get the transcript. They'd have to be able to get it. Because that's the crux of the case. The judge couldn't deny Trump's lawyers the opportunity to see what the case hinges on. That would be impossible, right?

Unless they want a motion, a summary judgment motion to dismiss. That's a whole different thing. If they got the case thrown out and they filed last week to get the case thrown out, do you think it's going to get thrown out? It's a close call. I mean, most cases are not a close call,

but it is a close call because the First Amendment is it really safeguards the media from being bullied or... I don't think it's going to get thrown out. I don't think the conservative judge in Texas is going to throw it out. And if he doesn't throw it out, CBS can't appeal that, that rule. And it has to go forward then, right? Right.

Yes. They're also asking for it to be moved to New York, the venue where CBS is located, and they may not get that either. So if it does stay. Why would a conservative judge be sympathetic to CBS? Right. They're not. It's like the Florida judge in a Mar-a-Lago case.

It was sympathetic, thought it was an overreach by the Biden administration and go after Trump like that. Okay, let's get to the shooting of the CEO, the United Healthcare CEO. So far, I think the authorities have handled it very well from the Pennsylvanians who got the guy and then the New York cops went out. They got him here. Evidence is overwhelming. If you were the defense attorney, you'd be up against it, correct? Yes, I would definitely be up against it. And, you know, but this is where you have to get creative.

I just want to go back to the police work because I did speak to Chief of Patrol John Shell yesterday. And he wanted to make sure that citizens got credit that they deserved. You know, this was a lot of old-fashioned police work getting his picture out there. But then the citizens were the ones who really helped. But the cops were on the, they were on the verge of getting his DNA. They were on the verge of getting his fingerprints from the cell phone, DNA was from a bottle that he dropped in Starbucks that they saw and they were able to get that bottle. So he was on his way to being in some big trouble. Bill, in terms of a defense like this

where he has a written confession on him, a lot of the job of the defense attorney, any defense attorney, is to make sure everyone plays by the rules. All of his rights are observed and maintained and stood up for. And then you write a book on his life and apparently he had a bad operation that affected him and you hope maybe the prosecutor says all right as opposed to 25 to life which is what you're going to get after trial will give you 23 to life and save us the money time effort and energy two years no i don't think this guy's ever going to get out i don't think he's ever going to get out um because it was so blatant uh in such a horror uh a message has to be sent um But I understand you're trying to mitigate the sentence to some degree.

Hopefully the guy can rehabilitate himself. I might even go for insanity on this guy. He's pretty out there. So maybe if I'm the defense attorney, I'm saying he doesn't know what he's doing. That doesn't work very much, though, right? It very rarely works. And the other thing people wrote up is an excuse called extreme emotional disturbance that takes murder down to manslaughter.

So you can get up. Not going to miss that. Right. But he was in a videotape. He's just too cool about what he's doing and all that. He's not agitated. It's very, very planned and premeditated. All right.

So Arthur Penny, then we go into the last case that we're talking about here. I predicted this. It wasn't a hard prediction. I still have faith, even though it's New York City and the folks, that they reasonable doubt all over the place. But the key question is, the district attorney in Manhattan, Alvin Bragg, George Soros Progressive, he knew there was reasonable doubt all over the place because the police had interviewed the people riding in the subway car. Bragg had all of that information in front of it. He knew that his odds of getting a conviction

were low and he did it anyway. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong, but you know, you showed that that clip of the angry supporters of the deceased here, and that's the constituency that obviously Alvin Bragg was trying to please. But that's political. That's not justice. Well, Bill, unfortunately, the days of Frank Hogan, the Manhattan District Attorney

and Bob Morgothar, where politics was not supposed to play a role, are gone way out the window. All right. Any chance, any chance Hockel removes Brag now? Fire is track. No, no, no chance. Are you kidding? She's afraid of her own shadow. She's going to take down the first African-American district attorney in Manhattan.

Her approval rating is 35%. Her approval rating is 35%. And after the congestion parking, it's going to be 25. She does not have the intestinal fortitude to do so. What's insane to me, Bill, is people out there are trying to compare the crime that this Luigi kid did to what Daniel Penny did. And, I mean, that really gets me upset. It's ridiculous.

It does just loons. I mean, I don't even bother them. All right, counselor, it's always good to talk with you. You can listen to Arthur on his own radio show, The Arthur Idala, as in money, power hour on AM 97, The Answer, in New York. So have a nice Christmas, and thanks for helping us out. Really appreciate it, Arthur. We'll see you.

Thank you. Thanks for all you do for our country. Appreciate you. Joining us now from Washington, D.C. is the aforementioned Attorney General of South Carolina, Alan Wilson. Pleased to have you. The fairness thing in Tennessee, South Carolina and other states, parents say, hey, we don't care. In fact, we want our child to transition. And it doesn't matter from male to female and female the mayor. And you, the state, have no right to stop that. And you say, Well, first off, the states have an inherent general police power to do all kinds of things.

We regulate the practice of medicine as a profession that has done at the state level, not at the federal level. You know, states have, has been upheld by the Supreme Court, states can pass reasonable restrictions on when a minor can ride in the front scene of a car, when a minor can buy tobacco, when a minor can consume alcohol, when a minor can even consent to having sex. This state of Tennessee, South Carolina, and 23 other states have passed laws, passing restrictions on something that is far worse than those things I just mentioned, an irreversible procedure that can never be turned back. Taking hormones, engaging in chemical castration or genital mutilation is something that cannot be undone. The states have determined that is something we want to place a reasonable restriction on. Again, this is not a parental rights issues. parents have the rights to raise their children however they deem fit but again you can't withhold an education from your child you can't beat your child you can't put your infant in the front seat

of a car in our state you certainly can't give your your minor child alcohol so these are reasonable restrictions so the way you're framing this though if a if a parent or parents want their child to be able to transition they're abusing that child that's really what Well, what I'm saying is that the state has a compelling interest to protect a health and welfare of its children. And again, a parent taking their child out of school and never educating them or giving them alcohol when they're 10 years old could harm the health and welfare of their children. I'm not necessarily accusing parents of, well, I personally think having your 10 or 12 year old engage in gender transition surgery is child abuse. But if you believe that is the case, you know, then you can obviously raise your child however you want. you just can't have irreversible surgeries performed on them.

That's all we're saying. And you're getting a third party involved. You're getting the state to sanction it. If the state says it's as the majority of states allow this. So they're basically saying, we don't care. If the parents are down with it, we'll go along. What separates Tennessee, South Carolina, the 23 states from the person. permissive states. Because it's a big golf, I think, wouldn't you agree?

I haven't read every single gender transition law for minors in every state, but generally they're all the same. And there's very negligible differences. Obviously, some states allow you to perform it as early as you want their parents in some states, blue states transitioning their children as early as two or three years old. I mean, it's really, to me, that is real child abuse. It's horrible. But the states, remember, the states have inherent power, the authority, a general police power to regulate themselves. That's not a dispute. You're going to win the case.

Supreme Court's going to rule 6.3 that the state at Tennessee and every other state has a right to regulate this. But I'm trying to get into the gulf between New York State, where I am now, and your state, South Carolina. So you feel compelled to protect the minors there from a decision that you rightly described as life-altering can't be reversed. Yet the people here in New York, they don't care. Can you explain that dichotomy?

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never talk to anybody i don't have an answer yeah okay it's fascinating though it really is because the gulf is so huge let's go to the undocumented obamacare people now you know you're going to be accused of uh being heartless and putting these people at risk they're here and now uh the federal judge says, no, you can't, even if they don't have any money, we're not giving them health care. How do you justify that? Well, first off, I mean, it's the law. It's federal law. I mean, I can't imagine anyone in America expecting to go to any European country or Latin American country and expecting to live on their welfare system. Again, this isn't about being heartless. This is about following the

law. I thought it was heartless to have the immigration policies that Biden and Harris had for the last four years, where you allowed tens of thousands, millions of people to en masse across the granted into the interior of the United States releasing them. We can't find 300,000 minors right now who came across the Southern border. To me, that is heartless. And Bill, I want to remind you of something, I take very personally, it was in 2009, a congressman on the floor of Congress yelled out at the president, you lie when he said that no illegal aliens would ever receive taxpayer-funded health care. That was someone I happened to be related to, Joe Wilson, if you remember. And here we are. We have an administration then Vice President Biden, President Biden now

doing exactly what the Democrats said they wouldn't do. Where does it end? It's a slippery slope that you can't fund the entire world's welfare program. Listen, I understand that. But if I'm sitting next to Pope Francis, he's going to say, Mr. Attorney General, these are human beings. They don't have any money. They're here probably shouldn't be, but they're sick. What do we do? Well, I would tell Pope Francis you don't violate the law. I mean, obviously, there's all kinds of social services.

There's faith-based groups. There's organizations out there that can help those people in need. But basically, when you basically reward people for committing a crime and you incentivize more of that crime, the system can't withstand it. It cannot hold up. We're just going to incentivize. Ronald Reagan tried to deal with this 40 years ago. It was supposed to be temporary.

Barack Obama did it again. It's going to get worse and worse and worse. We simply can't afford it. Okay. Fiscally, it is a huge problem. How much has the open border Biden policy hurt your state? The Palmetto state, right? South Carolina, the Palmetto.

Yes, sir. On January 2nd of this year, the first workday of the year, I had a press conference with state and federal law enforcement agents. We indicted 64 people and seized one and a half kilos of methamphetamine and one kilo of fentanyl. By the way, one kilo of fentanyl can kill half a million people. All of it came from the south, across the southern border in conjunction with Mexican drug cartels working with gangs. It came up through Atlanta into the upstate of South Carolina. This is the fourth or fifth major drug conspiracy that we have prosecuted in the last three years.

revolving Mexican drug cartels piping in that poison in the South Carolina. So it has a major impact. Okay. How much of a problem is the trans kids in South Carolina? South Carolina is a red state. It's a conservative state, church-going state, traditional value state. How much of a problem is that trans thing for you? I mean, we have the population of trans is so minuscule.

That's what I thought. Right. So it's more of a philosophic. philosophical thing for South Carolina on the books than a thing that you're dealing with every day. I mean, absolutely, but philosophical points matter. I mean, taking a stand on principle matters because it leads to other things in the future. Obviously, if we don't win this case in the Supreme Court, what does that mean for men playing in women's sports and vice versa? I mean, there is a slippery slope and the principle does matter. Yeah, well, you're going to win. I mean,

there's no way this court is going to take states' rights, way for a dubious premise because I agree with you I mean I can't imagine because kids are kids and they change you know and if once or over 18 okay but under 18 leave them alone help them out but whatever right I want you have a nice Christmas Mr Attorney General it's very nice of you to help us out today Merry Christmas Okay, I got a lot of mail on this Luigi Mangione, why he has not been charged with first-degree murder in New York City for the assassination of United Health Care CEO Brian Thompson. You'll remember the story December 4th.

Okay, it is a technical thing. So in New York State, there's no difference between first-degree murder and second-degree murder as far as sentencing is concerned. You can get life without parole. They classify it first-degree murder when you kill a judge, a cop, a state official, an act of terrorism, something like that. It's just a paper thing. So Luigi Mangione will never see the light of freedom again. He's 26 years old, this nut, and he is a nut, all right?

He's mentally ill. If you saw him in Pennsylvania being taken into custody, you got to know that. In fact, every single assassin that I've ever written about and is for them in confronting the presidents, and then there are a couple of would-be assassins, they've all been mentally ill, because you're basically throwing your life away. And then, you know, the ancillary things about, you know, health care, insurance companies are the devil, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the far left, as we talked about yesterday, is exploiting that. We know that. But, but, you know that. But this is the truth.

The TikTok idiots who are justifying this assassination, they're as mentally ill as the assassins. And they never would have been heard from 10 years ago. But now they get a forum, and now the media takes that and runs wild with it. There aren't many of those people. Most Americans notice is not acceptable, and this guy never should be free again. And that's the truth. San Diego Sheriff, and that's an interesting story. Kelly Martinez, with the San Diego Police Department, Sheriff's Department, 39 years.

She's the chief. She says, hey, we're not obeying the county supervisors saying that we shouldn't cooperate with Homeland Security. We're not. The Sheriff's Department of San Diego is going to cooperate with ICE. We don't care what the county commissioners say. Good for you, Sheriff. I'm going to try to get around next week. So we reported yesterday, county commissioners are loons.

All right, far left people. Oh, we're not to cooperate with the criminal investigations, not just regular migrants. These are criminals. We're not giving ICE anything. Sheriffs know, yeah, we are. Yeah, we are. Now, I'll be interesting to see what the San Diego Police Department does.

So the sheriff covers the county, and this is a county thing. But we're on it. And again, I'll reiterate any public official that interferes of the federal investigation should be arrested. Donald Trump names Ron Johnson, not the senator, just a common name, to be the ambassador to Mexico City. is one tough SOB. And that's why he's going down. He was the ambassador to El Salvador and helped the government down there defeat MS-13.

Now he's going to Mexico City, and he's going to tell President a shine bomb, Claudia, you better cooperate. You better put the military on the northern southern borders. You know, we're breaking you economically. Now, I still think that President Trump should declare the cartels terrorist organizations. Because Mexico is never going to go after them.

Once the executive order is signed, we can kill them. And we should. I don't even believe in a death penalty, by the way. But when you have evil killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, as these cartels are, with the importation of the fentanyl and narcotics, you've got to stop them. You don't talk to them. And we know where they are.

Boom. We get them a week. You get out of the business, you got one week. Pack it up, no more. And if you don't, you'll vapor. So anyway, Johnson's going down there. Smart life. You want to live to be 100?

I do not. OK? I don't want to ever be dependent on anybody. So whenever, as long as I'm healthy, long as I'm functional, good. I'll do the best I can. But when I decline and when you're a hundred, come on. Okay? So I'm fine with San Adios amigos. So health.com, they did a study of a bunch of people who are 100 years and older to find out what foods they ate to keep them alive. And here are the foods. Beans, we all know that, leafy,

Green's. Yep, we know that too. Nuts and seeds. You know, I eat cashies. They're good. Seeds, I'm not a big seed fan. Whole grains, okay. Controls blood sugar, very important. Olive oil. Excellent. That's a Mediterranean diet. Turmeric, I don't know what that is, but it's some kind of thing you put in your food. Sweet potatoes love them. Seafood, big on seafood. Okay, fruit, you know, here's my dilemma. I do eat fruit every day, but I also drink fruit juice and that's loaded with sugar. So I'm trying to get a line on how much fruit juice I can drink without raising my blood sugar. It's hard.

Anybody knows, let me know. And then tea, I drink Japanese tea, show why. You can get it on the internet and I have nothing to do with the company. Okay, C-H-O-D-SH-O-Dash-W-A, it's Japanese T, raises your immune system. Taste awful, okay, but you got to tough it out. And if it's hot and it's cold outside, it's not so bad. All right, the Reagan movie, Dennis Quaid, Penelope Miller, John Boyd, big hit, did very, very well. And as you know, I produced a movie.

executive producer, along with Ridley Scott and Scott Free, called Killing Reagan, based on my book. And that was very successful. But the Reagan movie did very well. It was released August 30th last summer. And now it's out in DVD for Christmas. Good stuffing stuff, right? Now, I did not know this because I didn't see the Reagan movie because I was too busy and I have my own movie and whatever, but I'll watch it.

uh jean simmons from kiss provided some of the music for the reagan movie roll it i can't go on everything i have is gone stormy weather since you and i and me and you ain't together Wow, little Nat King Colish there. Mr. Simmons joins us from Los Angeles. So why did you get involved with this? When my mother came to America with yours truly, I was eight and a half years old. We are immigrants.

We are legal immigrants. And as far as I'm concerned, I was born in the promised land, but let me tell you something. America is the promised land. You came from Israel? Is that what you came from? I don't look Swiss, do I? No, you don't. Not at all.

That's right. That's where I was born, yeah. And came to America and discovered that anything is possible. There are no limits, no nothing. And despite the fact that people agree and disagree and all that stuff, this is still the light and will continue to be the light that shines the world. Did you admire Ronald Reagan? Did you admire him? I did.

I was much younger, obviously, when he was president, and I knew nothing, almost nothing, about the body of politics. But interestingly, in hindsight, it bears noting that the political and pop culture figures of any age were always about the impression, the ability to communicate a feeling, and perhaps that's more important, the power of the personality than what's written on a piece of paper. And now imagine a different president trying to communicate with Gorbachev and literally causing that wall to come down which resulted in the fall of communism. Did you take any heat?

Because you know how liberal and progressive Hollywood is where you live. You take any heat from contributing to this film? How do I say this as nicely as I can? I don't give a spot. No, I know that. But did you take any? Yes. You see, but that's wrong. Isn't it wrong?

Well, everybody's entitled to an opinion. It doesn't, you know, it falls off the back. Yeah, but they shouldn't try to hurt you because of your opinion. That's what they do out there. Well, that is probably true. I think it is the bastion of a certain political leaning of the thing. But that's okay. You know, I have not okay with me, Gene.

John Voigt and I hangout. We trade stories and everything else. And some people agree with this politics, some not. But everybody gives to charity. Everybody loves children. And so think about the stuff that we agree with instead of the stuff that we don't. Well, you're bringing a level-headed approach, but there's some malevolent evil people in the motion picture industry

and the music industry to boot that I'll deal with them. You don't have to. You've seen it all. And the music industry has changed so much. Give my audience one big change that you have witnessed in the arc of your career. Unfortunately, the business model is dead, and new bands don't have a chance, especially rock bands. In a certain way, rock is finally dead. Rock and roll is dead because the freckle-faced kid next door to you, who's a good kid and good family and everything,

has become entitled, feels entitled to be able to download and file. share and get all this music for free. Yeah. And, you know, it's interesting that people don't understand this. So what? You're too rich to care. Why do you care? Well, imagine you work for a living. You write a book. You sell groceries or whatever. And people don't pay you for the work that you put in. Then you say, well, wait a minute, I work for this. How come I don't get paid? And that's what's happening with new artists. And it breaks my heart because right. And they're not rich. They're creative and they're trying to get to a platform where they're self-sustaining and you can't now

because of the internet. Well, very, very fascinating. I'm going to bring you back and once you start your tour, let us know. We'll take some video that we'll bring it back. You're an interesting guy. I've known Simmons for a long time. I never painted my face like kiss. I have to admit it. I'm much too handsome to do that. See, my theory is these guys had to do that. I don't have to. I want you to have a nice Hanukkah and a very nice celebration on the West Coast. My best to everybody, Gene. Thanks for coming on. Thank you, young man.

Okay, cheers. Okay, there's a final thought of the day. So, as we just said, are not woke gears flying out of here. But what exactly is woke? So there's a definition of it. Okay. Aware of an actively attentive to important society. vital facts and issues, especially racial and social justice.

That's from the Miriam Dictionary, Webster Dictionary. All right, but what does that really mean? If you are woke, there are two things it means. You are virtue signaling. You are trying to convince people that you are a noble human being, that you have compassion, that you are a special, special. sensitive person. That's what it is. It's personal. There's also I'm better than you because I want all the illegal migrants to be happy and to have everything and their people too, but you want to restrict them. So I'm a better human being than you. That's built into this. That's what virtue signaling is. All right. So these people, they don't regret. guard any kind of reality, no unintended consequences at all by an open border, how much suffering,

and how badly it's damaged the country. It doesn't even, no, I'm compassionate. I'm woke because I'm just superior to you. Where is this on display more? There are two places in the country. If you go there, you will see this all day long. Boston, Massachusetts, just pick up the Boston Globe, okay, woke all day long. Not the workers, not the blue collars. They have the common sense up in Boston. And Los Angeles, California. I don't count San Francisco because that's a totally socialist, communist, situation there. It's much more complicated, but Los Angeles, particularly in the entertainment community, you know they are. But oh, we're so enlightened. We're so enlightened. So my suggestion is if you know somebody who's

woke and you don't like that person, they're annoying, they send them a not woke. Anonymous leaders drop it in their mailbox that they'll be so annoyed. I mean, you would like, And believe it on me, you know, I got the shirt. Do you throw it up there with me? There I am. Look at that. We have a navy blue, too. And the Tara Dog will not go to sleep without the not woke tea.

It's a not woke corgi. I'm exploiting Holly, the Tara Dog on, you know, but for a good cause. We're paying our people very well this year. Okay, that's it for us. Thank you for watching and listening to the No Spin News. We'll see you again on Monday.