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a wild three months with the election and all that. Now a lot of sleep going on here, so it takes some time. And this is the perfect time of the year to do it. We will be back, okay, on Monday, January 6th, live, on radio and TV. So, and I hope you check in with Bill O'Reilly.com because I'm going to be tweeting. They don't call tweeting anymore, but I still call it tweeting at Bill O'Reilly. Anything happens, I'm going to be right on it, boom.

my staff, most of them, you know, we alternate off, but they'll get it out there. And we have columns and we have all kinds of stuff. Photo album, really nice photo album on Bill O'Reilly.com, Holly, the Terra Dog, you know, we have everything. So I hope you check in with us. And there isn't going to be much breaking news unless the hostages are released in Gaza, which I know they're working on. That could be the big breaker, but we are on top of it. Point's memo this evening is the federal spending controversy. It never ends. Every three months we go through this, you know, that's boring. And let me just lay it out so everyone understands this. The federal government spends way too much money. President Biden, the biggest spending

president in our history by far. Donald Trump spent a lot of money too. COVID played into that, but Biden totally out of control. Totally. And we got to stop. And the Democratic Party doesn't want to stop because they buy votes. We'll give you this, we'll give you that. How many times did Kamala Harris get out there? We're going to give you this. You know, kid, we'll go that, we'll get health, on and on and on and on. Well, we can't do it anymore. Because if we continue to run up debt, the way we're running it up, we'll have a depression in the United States. So what's going to happen?

And so we have to stop. Trump knows that. But Trump has got some big commitment. It's got to rebuild the military again because Biden just let it go. And then we got Social Security and Medicare through the roof.

They're going to have to up the age. Not for people getting it down. Don't panic. But for the younger folk, instead of, you know, kicking in at 62 or whatever it is, it's going to be, you know, four or five years later.

It's got to happen. Trump doesn't want to do it. No president does, because once you get into that, then people don't like you. All right. So this latest brouhaha, and today Congress is supposed to leave. The House supposed to leave today and Senate tomorrow. So I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, I'm taping this in late afternoon. It's still chaos. I don't know. Who knows? But every three months, we've got this big short-term spending bill. That's ridiculous. Listen to some of this. stuff in this present bill all right um big raise for uh congress i don't they haven't gotten to raise this 2009 and they're going to bring them up about 4 percent to about 180 000 k that's okay i i don't i don't begrudge that this is ridiculous the washington football stadium

the commanders uh goes from the control of the federal government at r fk stadium to the locals well you know the local dc can't do anything they're going to That's going to be a huge boondog, a lair, a total waste of money. So I don't want that to happen. Then the State Department's Global Engagement Center, we don't need that. We don't need that. That's just millions and millions of dollars are throwing it out the window. There's no good at all.

And then there's a whole bunch of other stuff in there that you can't do this, you can't do that. It has nothing to do with spending. So Trump is right. I mean, Trump said, I'm going to quote him in a minute, but Trump is right, going, look, this is just ridiculous. I don't want to start my term with this short-term budget thing. So here we said, quote, if Republicans try to pass a clean continuing resolution without all the Democratic bells and whistles, that will be so destructive for our country. All we'll do after January 20th is bring the mess of the debt limit into the Trump administration, rather than allowing to take place in the Biden administration. Any Republican that would be so stupid as to do this should and will be primary.

So that's a threat to Republicans in the House and the Senate. If you sign on with the Democratic bill, short-term spending bill, then you're going to get a primary challenge. It's going to cost you a lot of money. Okay. That's the way the game is played. So I think a deal will be made. and this always happens on the last minute and then all of us say oh we got to deal we got to it's boring to me

and but it's important i understand so when you have joe biden four years carries a deficit of two trillion that means under biden's four-year term the government spent two trillion dollars more than i took in from the taxpayer can't do that and our debt now let me just get the exact number because it goes up every second 36.2 trillion.

You can't sustain it. On Biden's first day in office, it was $27.8 trillion. And now it's 36.2. You guys are maniac. It doesn't care. They don't care. They buy votes. That's what it's all about.

We'll give you, give you, give you, give you. Stop. Stop. We need a balanced budget amendment, number one. That's got to be passed by the Republican Congress. Number two, Trump's got to take a look at the military and the Social Security and the Medicare. Take your time. Everybody wants a strong defense.

Not everybody, but sane people. But you can't keep paying ridiculous prices for equipment. You've got to have discipline in there. Have to. And finally, look, any politician going to take on the entitlements, Social Security and Medicare, it's going to be controversial. If I would Trump, I take that on the last two years. Get your border, get your prices down, get your Ukraine stuff, then take the,

because that's going to be really a blowout. And that's a memo. All right, Joe Biden did nothing today. And Donald Trump does nothing on the calendar. You know, they're both socialized, it's Christmas, people in, people out. Here's a very fascinating story. you remember Fannie Willis, Fannie. Okay, she hates Trump.

And she is the DA for Fulton County, Georgia, and she did a lot of dumb and perhaps corrupt things trying to get Trump. Well, now the second division of Georgia's appellate court has kicked her off the case, the election interference case in Georgia. Bye, Fannie. Someone said about a year ago

that this was going to, to happen. Roll it. But summing it up, this Fannie Willis thing, gone. And what's going to happen, I predict is a judge is going to throw her off the case. It was judge is, threw her off the case. Am I Nostradamus or what? Come on. Come on. Every prediction I made in 2024 has come true. I think everyone. Every single one. So finally out. So now a new prosecutor has to this case is never ever going to get anywhere it's over I don't know whether it should be or not I don't know what but I it was obviously a hate Trump play and so that just leaves New York with Trump and I and Trump will beat them in New York you'll beat them you wait and see all right

media madness Liz Cheney how many of you like Liz Cheney out there. Anyone? Hello? Anyone like Liz? So, Liz Cheney led the January 6th Committee to try to hate Trump. Blame Trump for insurrection, all of that. Liz Cheney is a Republican, Congresswoman from Wyoming. She lost the election. She's out. She teaches at the University of Virginia now. Okay. So Liz Cheney is the most vehement Trump hater on the J6 committee. Well, the Oversight Committee in the House now says that Liz Cheney may have tampered with a witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, who had testify under oath in front of the J6 Committee. This is the allegation.

Now, we afford due process to everyone, all right, we'll have to see. But I went on a News Nation with Cuomo last night, and here's what. what happened. Liz Cheney is the biggest villain in Republican circles there could possibly be. Why, because she's a traitor? And when the House of Representatives said,

no, because she was so hateful to Trump. And the voters of Wyoming booted her out, even though the Cheney family is one of those powerful families in that state. But when the Republicans in Congress say she witnessed tampered,

and then the press makes it out like this some kind of revenge play, if Liz Cheney witness tampered, she deserves the FBI being all over her front lawn. I'll tell you that right now. Yeah. And I think there's enough evidence to go in and investigate. What they're calling witness tempering, I mean, I've only looked at what they're saying so far. Obviously, they haven't produced anything else, not that that's some new standard. It's certainly not a legal standard of witness tampering. And there is no small irony. Yes, it is. It's going to go after her. It violates a federal law. Well, depends on what she did.

And I don't know, look it up. So far. Oh, no, no. Humma, you're wrong. I know what the law is. And you're a lawyer. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets.

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We'll see it. If she tried to convince Cassidy Hutchinson. Yes. Oh, you give her a due process, certainly. But if she had tried to convince Cassidy Hutchinson, all right, behind closed doors, which is the allegation, to testify a certain way in front of the J6 committee, then this woman violated federal law, period. That's true. And the FBI should be looking into that. That's fine.

Well, that's not what I... They got to investigate. You know, and the press is going, all this revenge, revenge, revenge, revenge, revenge. not revenge, it's justice. Can't have a congressperson, you know, the word, the legal word is suborning perjury. I don't know whether she did that, Cheney, but the allegation, and I think they can back it up, is that she met with Hutchinson and guided her testimony. That's against federal law. You can't do that if you are a sitting congressperson. So, So, yeah, investigate it.

But it's not revenge. You've got to have this. You've got to have some standards of behavior in the federal government. But the press, oh, it's revenge. Oh, yeah, we don't. Does the press want to know what Liz Cheny really did? Do they?

No, they don't. Okay. So let's get another point of view on this. Joining us from Indiana is David Masiotra. He is a journalist. author of the book, Exurbia Now, the Battleground of American Democracy.

So, David, where am I making my mistake here? Well, thanks for having me, Bill, and I like the way you said the title of my book, the sense of theatrical flair. Your analysis is a little too broad and a little too narrow at the

same time. So, starting with the former, much of the decline, as you call, it in ratings and revenue is temporary. So many liberal, progressives, left of center people felt such a punch to the gut by Trump's victory that they're just checking out. And the audience will return once Trump inevitably has some scandals, some failures, some lunatic behavior, the likes of which we saw during his first term.

Second, American culture is undergoing a series of degradation, most of which is an intellectual degradation, a consequence of which is journalistic decline. So adding to your analysis, we could talk about how two-thirds of newspapers

have shut down since the year 2000. Over half of radio stations have shut down. Americans, fewer and fewer of them, are even consuming the news. They're no longer interested in debate. They're no longer exercising a civic responsibility. So the one thing on which I agree with you entirely is Fox News's success is because it's something of a Pravda for Trump voters. And you're correct, that's not going to last either, because once Trump takes an exit from the stage, where are those people going to go? Well, let's stay. I mean, Vance is Trump light.

So MSNBC and CNN's numbers were never, ever strong in the last 15 years. They're always marginal numbers. So even if their audience comes back, they're coming back to mediocrity. All right? I did it for more than 20 years on Fox. Those people never came close to me, all right, ever, in any way at any way. Anytime we wiped them out, five, six to one, and it never got closer. So now with corporations cutting ties with MSNBC, they're not coming back anywhere.

You're not going to be able to find them. That's how bad that is. CNN, I don't know what they're going to do because even when there was a hope that Kamala Harris would win, CNN's numbers were terrible. So let's turn our attention to the big three networks. they're all in the morning below 2 million. They used to do 5, 6 million. Late-night comics, barely get 2 million.

Carson did 9 million. So you've got to see that the eyeballs are not there, and I don't believe they're coming back. I disagree with you on that. Some will come back, not all, because it's part of a larger cultural trend in which fewer and few people have any trust in traditional media.

Why is that? Why don't they trust it? Why don't they trust the traditional media? Well, first of all, most don't even pay attention to it. I mean, the rates of civic political knowledge in this country are awful.

But second, they don't trust it because there were a series of mistakes. You're going to say liberal bias, but things like helping the Bush administration sell an invasion of Iraq, for which the Washington in the Post of New York Times felt compelled to apologize, missing.

Yeah, but that was, those mistakes, I was there. Those mistakes were honest mistakes because you were getting information from a guy like Colin Powell, the Secretary of State, all right, that Saddam Hussein was peddling weapons of mass destruction, had them. So they were honest. When you see an interview that 60 Minutes does with Kamala Harris, okay and then you see a promo that's totally different and then you ask politely to see the transcript of what miss harris actually said this is right in the middle of a campaign and cbs

has blank you with the middle finger you can't you can't recover from that cbs is not going to recover from that part of part of this bill is a cycle in which for decades and decades right-wing commentators and journalists have clutch their pearls whining and pleading that the so-called liberal media is biased against them. And it has an indoctrination effect in which now you have half of the politically engaged public unwilling to believe anything they see on so-called-called main. mainstream media. That's a good point. There has been indoctrination, but the indoctrination was based on facts. So in 1996, when the Fox News Channel started, the business plan was simple, that the New York

Times, the Washington Post, the three networks, CNN, did not give traditional conservative people access. They wouldn't book guests. They wouldn't even consider their point of view. And so Fox said, we're going to be the opposite. We're going to give traditional conservatives access. We're not going to ban left. I had just as many liberals on the O'Reilly factor as conservatives because I like the joust.

I like to do that. Now Fox, unfortunately, has gone away from that and it's choir practice. But we made that network based on giving everybody access in it because there was a wall put up by the left wing media. You know that, David, if you had any research at all on the news. York Times, the Washington Post, the L.A. Times, is a wall. You can't get through. And traditional conservative Americans resented that, and still to this day, resented. I think that you're overrating that effect. I mean, William F. Buckley wrote regularly for the New York Times. In addition to the own magazine. William Sapphire was a columnist

with the New York Times. Again, way back. Dinosaur. But they always featured, and I just gave you an example where they helped the Bush administration sell, honest mistake or not, the invasion of Iraq. In 2016, the New York Times top story. They ran more articles about Hillary Clinton's emails than anything else. So I think you're overrating the liberal bias aspect of it. And you're overlooking that everything you're accusing the mainstream media of committing, right-wing media, is doubly guilty of doing. Not when I was there, it wasn't. I mean, I really went out of my way to present all sides of the equation

to the extent that we had paid contributors to come on and present the left-wing side. Let's look forward. Let's look forward. My hypothesis is that the left-wing media has been damaged beyond redemort. You disagree. And I respect that disagreement because a year for now, we'll have you back and we'll see, you know, where they come back or anything.

But say I'm right, as I am 90% of the time, I think that the now the surge is into the social media and there's certainly a lot of information there. Unfortunately, a lot of it is phony because there are no standards of behavior on social media. But I don't think that's going to ebb. I think that'll even become more prominent. Am I wrong? I absolutely agree with you on that point. And that's indicative of a certain cultural decline. We don't have intellectuals anymore.

We have influencers. So it was a major discussion point during the campaign of Harris would appear with Joe Rogan, which is like if in the 80s the biggest topic of conversation was whether or not Reagan would give an interview to Sam Kinnison. This episode is brought to you by San Pellegrino Chau. A new kind of flavor of sparkling water. The kind made with real fruit juice, a pinch of Sicilian salt, and the sparkle of the Italian sun. With no added sugar and just 10 or less calories per can, enjoy.

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it. However, I would correct you a powerful guy. Rogan is a powerful guy. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. But I would correct you on one point. I mean, I watched your show routinely throughout the Bush years on Fox, and you did often have liberal, progressive guests.

But look at the analysis you offered at the top of the program. You essentially dismissed all of Harris's voters, tens of millions of people as minorities who are dependent upon entitlements or I didn't dismiss them. I'm indoctrinated by their teachers

and professors. I contextualized it. I didn't dismiss them. Are you going to really argue based on all the data that I'm sure you have assembled that poor urban residents of this country

don't lean left because of the entitlement system? Are you going to argue that's not true? I wouldn't argue that it isn't true that they lean left. First of all, poor people vote in very low numbers. They lean left for a reason. The reason is a Democratic Party

is the party of entitlement. That's why they lean left. There are a variety of reasons why they lean left. But the main point is poor people vote in lower numbers than every other income group as you know. So that's not a major part of the Democratic appeal and coalition.

The only reason that progressives control New York is because of New York City minority voters. That's the only reason. If you look at the last sub-initorial vote, it's the only reason. But you're saying minorities vote Democrat only because they're dependent upon entitlements. I didn't use the word only. I said that was the implication. Fine. You can take any implication.

want. That's the driver. And in New England, the driver is that it's almost impossible for a traditional conservative to get hired as a teacher in the entire area. So what do you think the kids are going to come out? Last point, I'll give it a last one. My point is that you've dismissed and disparaged tens of millions of Democratic voters as people dependent upon entitlements or if they're not dependent upon entitlements, they were indoctrinated by the educational system. And that's the kind of narrow, absolutist thinking that pollutes our media and degrades our discourse. I totally disagree. My job isn't to be politically correct. My job is to tell the truth. And what I told the audience at the top is the truth. But I respect your distinction.

That's what makes this country great. We kick it around. Now everybody knows what you think and everybody knows what I think and they can make their own decision. And if the network media will like that, it would have five times as many viewers, David. Thanks for that. I agree. Thanks for taking the time.

We really appreciate. Thank you. Smart Life. You want to live to be 100? I do not. Okay. I don't want to ever be dependent on anybody. So whenever I, as long as I'm healthy, as long as I'm functional, good.

I'll do the best I can. But when I decline and when you're 100, come on. Okay? So I'm fine with San Adios amigos. So health.com, they did a study of a bunch of people who are 100 years and older to find out what foods they ate to keep them alive. And here are the foods. Beans, we all know that.

Leafy greens, yep, we know that too. Nuts and seeds. You know, I eat caches, they're good. Seeds, I'm not a big seed fan. Whole grains, okay. Controls blood sugar, very important. Olive oil. Excellent.

That's a Mediterranean diet. Termaric, I don't know what that is, but it's some kind of thing you put in your food. Sweet potatoes love them. Seafood, big on seafood. Okay? Fruit? You know, here's my dilemma.

I do eat fruit every day, but I also drink fruit juice, and that's loaded with sugar. So I'm trying to get a line on how much fruit juice I can drink without raising my blood sugar. It's hard. Anybody knows, let me know. And then tea. I drink Japanese tea, show why. You can get it on the Internet. And I have nothing to do with the company.

Okay. C-H-O-D-H-O-Dash-A, Japanese T, raises your immune system. Taste awful. Okay. But you got to tough it out. And if it's hot and it's cold outside, it's not so bad. All right. The Reagan movie, Dennis Quaid, Penelope Miller, John Boyd, big hit, did very, very,

very well. And as you know, I produced a movie, executive producer, along with Ridley Scott and Scott Free, called Killing Reagan, based on my book. And that was very successful. But the Reagan movie did very well. It was released August 30th last summer. And now it's out in DVD for Christmas. We get stuffing stuff. Now, I did not know this because I didn't see the Reagan movie because I was too busy and I have my own movie and whatever, but I'll watch it. Gene Simmons from Kiss

provided some of the music for the Reagan movie. Roll it. I can't go on. Everything I have is gone. Stormy weather. Since you and I and me, We ain't together keeps a rain all the time.

Wow, a little Nat King Colish there. Mr. Simmons joins us from Los Angeles. So why did you get involved with this? When my mother came to America with yours truly, I was eight and a half years old. We are immigrants, we are legal immigrants, and as far as I'm concerned, I was born in the promised land, but let me tell you something. America is the promised land. You came from Israel? Is that what you came from?

I don't look Swiss, do I? No, you don't, not at all. That's right. That's where I was born, yeah. And came to America and discovered that anything is possible. There are no limits, no nothing. And despite the fact that people agree and disagree and all that stuff, this is still the light and will continue to be the light that shines the world.

Did you admire Ronald Reagan? Did you admire him? I did. I was much younger, obviously, when he was president, and I knew nothing, almost nothing, about the body of politics. But interestingly, in hindsight, it bears noting that the political and pop culture figures of any age were always about the impression, the ability to communicate a feeling. And perhaps that's more important.

the power of the personality than what's written on a piece of paper. And now imagine a different president trying to communicate with Gorbachev and getting and literally causing that wall to come down which resulted in the fall of communism. Did you take any heat? Because you know how liberal and progressive Hollywood is where you live. Do you take any heat from doing, contributing to this film? How do I say this as nicely as I can?

don't give a spot. No, I know that. But did you take any? Yes. You see, but that's wrong. Isn't it wrong? Well, everybody's entitled to an opinion. It doesn't, you know, it falls off. They shouldn't take it out. They should try to hurt you because of your opinion. That's what they do out there. Well, that is probably true. I think it is the bastion of a certain political leaning of the thing. But that's, that's okay. You know, I have not okay with me, Gene. John Voigt, my hangout, we trade stories and everything else. And some people agree with this politics, some not. But everybody gives the charity.

Everybody loves children. And so think about the stuff that we agree with instead of the stuff that we don't. Well, you're bringing a level-headed approach, but there's some malevolent evil people in the motion picture industry and the music industry to boot that I'll deal with them. You don't have to. You've seen it all. And the music industry has changed so much.

Give my audience one big change that you have witnessed in the arc of your career. Unfortunately, the business model is dead. And new bands don't have a chance, especially rock bands. In a certain way, rock is finally dead. Rock and roll is dead because the freckle-faced kid next door to you, who's a good kid and good family and everything, has become entitled, feels entitled to be able to download and file share and get all this music for free. Yeah. And, you know, it's interesting that people don't understand this. It's not, so what? You're too rich to care. Why do you care? Well, imagine you work for a living. You write a book,

you sell groceries or whatever, and people don't pay you for the work that you put in. Then you understand. Then you say, well, wait a minute, I work for this. How come I don't get paid? And that's what's happening with new artists and it breaks my heart because right and they're not rich they're creative and they're trying to get to a platform where they're self-sustaining and you can't now because of the internet well very very fascinating I'll bring you back and once you start your tour let us know we'll take some video that we'll bring it back you're an interesting guy I've known Simmons for a long time I never painted my face like kiss I have to admit it I'm much too handsome to do that See, my theory is these guys had to do that. I don't have to. I want you to have a nice

Hanukkah and a very nice celebration on the West Coast. My best to everybody, Gene. Thanks for coming on. Thank you. Thank you, man. Okay. Cheers. Did you know that at Chevron, you can fuel up on unbeatable mileage and savings? With Chevron rewards, you'll get 25 cents off per gallon on your next five visits. All you have to do is download the Chevron app and join to start saving on fuel. Then you can keep fueling up on other things like adventure, memories, vacations, daycations, quality time, and so many other possibilities. Head to your nearest Chevron station to fuel up and get rewarded today. Terms apply, see Chevron Texcorewards.com for more details. The best coast just got better, introducing Quantum of the Seas sailing from L.A. this fall.

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It's just nobody. pays attention to it because it's a far-left journal. It's a progressive journal. They don't make any pretense about covering the news fairly. They cover what they want to cover, but if it's not a story that fits in the narrative, they don't even cover it. So it's owned by one guy whose take is hemorrhaging money. His name is Dr. Patrick Sun-Shion. Okay? So he's installing, and I don't know how this is going to work, in the Los Angeles Times newsroom, a so-called bias meter to see if his own reporters and editorial staff are being unfair. And he's using AI to run the bias meter.

Now, I don't know whether the readers of the newspaper are going to see that or how they're going to see it, but I've never heard of this before. But a bias meter run by AI being installed in the Los Angeles Times. I'm keeping my eye on that one. Now, why is that necessary? The culture in almost every newsroom in this country on a national level is left, far left. That means if you're a MAGA person or you're pro-life or you're even conservative, you can't work in the newsrooms.

You shunned, isolated, won't get promoted. Don't want you there. Okay? When you have that kind of peer pressure against you, who's going to walk into that? Now, when I worked at ABC News and CBS News, both of them were liberal when I was there. Jennings, Peter Jennings, kept a cap on it. Now, nobody knew my political point of view back when I was a correspondent for ABC News. I was a reporter.

I didn't put any politics today, any story I ever did. none. CBS, same thing. Nobody knew. I got hired at CBS, Dan Rather, because I did well at Channel 2, the local CBS station in New York City. Anyway, Rather was wore the liberalism on it, on his sleep. Everybody do. Jenny's not so much. They knew he was socially liberal, but he was disciplined, Jennings. But now that's all gone. It's all gone. You have to be left or far left to work in these national news agencies, with the exception of Fox News and Newsmax. And News Nation, which I think the strongest of the trying to be balanced of all of them. Again, I work there on, you know, Monday you'll see me with Leland Vitterd and Wednesday with Cuomo.

But they try. it. But if you're in the network situation, there's no way. And that's the culture. New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times, Boston Globe, Atlanta Constitution, same thing. Very dangerous for the country. Smart life. There's another interesting story. So now the average American, all right, has a credit card debt of $10,757. How precise is that? This comes from a wallet hub. Wallet Hub is pretty good. They do some pretty good research. It's a personal finance website, wallet hub, one word. So $10,757 with the average American owes of the credit card companies. Why? Well, greed is one reason. No impulse control. I want it. I want it. I'm going to get.

If I can't afford it, I'll just put it, I'll pay the 18% Vig. 18% you pay in these companies. But here's another one. So I walk into a deli on Long Island the other day, and I wanted a ham and cheese sandwich, ham and monster cheese with a little bit of mustard on a roll, $14. Are you kidding me? $14 that cost the deli in just in the food, the roll and a ham and sheep, cheese and the mustard cost the deli about five bucks maybe five they're charging 14 so i'm watching

now why are they doing this in the deli it was 80% urchins teenagers in the local high schools there that's who was in the deli they had the debt all them had the debit cards and they're getting anything they want they don't care what the prices they're not paying them boom boom boom boom boom boom that's why and their parents have to pay off the debit card and a lot of these parents are hey do whatever you want sally hey sean get whatever you want they don't care and then they get the bill and i can't pay it that's what's happening here smart life all you have to do is step back before you put that credit card on the little gizmo they don't really need this is it worth the 14 bucks for the ham and cheese.

I bought the ham and cheese sandwich, and I ate it, and it was decent. I won't do it again, all right? Because that's ridiculous. Smart life. Got to control the spending. So here's a final thought confirming the president's number five is coming Sunday on the New York Times list after 13 weeks. It's actually 15 weeks in the marketplace because the Times lags behind a little bit on their list.

And it's still a fabulous bestseller. The reason is, very simple. All of my books from Killing Lincoln, the first one, then all 13 killing books, and now confronting is a new series. We will have another confronting book out in September. And I'll tell you about it, you know, because we can't tell you now

because somebody will steal the idea. That's what they do. But anyway, the reason these books are so successful, And again, I will tell you, we are the most successful non-fiction authors in the world. It's because they're fun to read. That means you're not bored. You're not, oh, do I have to pick this up again? Fun.

And you learn something on every single page. So today is on the Travis Show and Buck. And Buck Sexton and Clay Travis. They took over for Limbaugh. They guys do a good job. I was on. And I'm explaining to them how Donald Trump is going to govern the second time around is much different than the first time around. Because he's taking the Franklin Roosevelt model and he's doing what Roosevelt did.

Who knows that? No one knows that. I don't know if Trump knows it. But if you reconfirting the president, you'll know it. So anyway, go to the bookstore, pick it on up, you know, give it to somebody you like, read it yourself, whatever you want to do. Thank you very much for watching. We'll see tomorrow.