Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Is America Rebelling Against Trump?, the Hollywood Elite Lash Out at ICE & Will the Clintons Defy the House? Attorney Bob Driscoll Weighs In

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, January 12, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Bill declares that eight states are rebelling against the federal government over immigration law and examines this past weekend’s ICE protests. A look at Portland Police Chief Bob Day’s press conference confirming that a pair shot by Border Patrol were tied to Tren de Aragua. Sports and entertainment progressives have lined up in support of the rebellion against ICE, Golden State Warriors head coach Steve Kerr and actor Mark Ruffalo as examples. Bob Driscoll, partner at Dickinson & Wright, joins the No Spin News to discuss the consequences of not showing up after being subpoenaed by a House committee, as Bill and Hillary Clinton are set to give closed-door depositions this week. Final Thought: Bill shares a clip from the Islanders hockey game that mentioned the O'Reilly Factor. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the Noseven News for Monday, January 12th, 2006. Stand up for your country. You got a little scratchy throat here. I don't know why. It just comes out of nowhere. But bear with me. I'll get through it in a way that will be clear.

If we have to repeat things five times, we will. So I want to give you a reminder, because it still is early in 22, No spin means we don't pander, we don't propagandize, and we don't push ideology. That's what no spin means. It's like we try to analyze the news based on every possible fact we can accumulate. That separates us from almost everybody else, okay? Because most people have a preconceived. I'm going to say this, because that's what my audience wants to hear.

We don't do that. All right? And so when we're analyzing very important stories, like the rebellion, what's going on now in the United States, we have to gather an enormous amount of information in order to make sense of it all. And I'll prove it again this evening, beginning with the talking points memo. So I wrote a column, posted on bill o'Reilly.com, filed it on Saturday called The Rebellion. So there are eight states that are rebelling against the federal government's immigration law. I will list them in a moment.

Okay? And what does that mean? It just means they refuse to obey the law. That's a rebellion. This is the Sanctuary City movement, but it's more than that. Okay. So on Saturday you saw one of those states, Minnesota, host a day. demonstration against the ice shooting of last week.

A couple of thousand people showed up and there's nothing wrong with people protesting. That's what we do in America when we don't think something is wrong. But this protest was sponsored by a far left group called the Minnesota Immigration Rights and Action Committee. This was an ideological protest, not an organic protest. It was organized exclusively by the far left to seek people's presence on the far left. That's what this was all about. Okay.

Authorities of Minneapolis arrested 29 people, and they were throwing chunks of ice and other debris at the local cops. The feds had no presence here. So a local demonstration. all right and one police officer was hurt um that's the who what one where and why of the of the of the rally the people who attended the rally are in one category they are leftists who hate the Trump administration. Roll the tape. There was another instance of someone in our city being killed, being murdered, law enforcement, and I'm ready to be done with it.

I love my community. I love my city, and I hate what's happening to it with people who frankly aren't from here coming in and telling us who should be here. And when it comes on to loving my neighbor, I'm just going to love my neighbor. Here's ICE, riding through our neighborhoods, destroying families. destroying businesses, tearing our communities apart, and they're not being held accountable. And that's why we're here. We're out here to demonstrate to try to hold them accountable.

Okay, fine. But that's not what really that is. That is an open border. We don't want any law enforcement to confront undocumented migrants. We don't want it. You let them in, they do what they want. That's what these people stand for, but they're never honest about it. That shouldn't be a surprise.

75 million people voted for Kamala Harris, who supported President Biden's open border policy and didn't want any law enforcement against people foreign nationals who came into the country illegally. Cald Myers wouldn't done anything. But it continued on the open border and let people just, Wave on it. Okay. 75 million Americans voted for her. A lot of folks.

Of course you're gonna have that. Now the eight states in open rebellion are these. California, Oregon, Washington State, Colorado, Minnesota, Illinois, Massachusetts, and New Jersey. New York and Vermont are right on the edge there. I don't have them on there because there's a little dialogue at least going on with Washington, but you can put them on there. And when you have 10 states, it's basically telling the federal government, we're not

going to obey your law, you have what they had before the Civil War. It's exactly the same thing. And I make the point in the column that from 1830 to 1860, 30 years. Southern State said, we're not going to obey whatever you say. And we're not just talking slavery. We're talking tariffs. We're talking almost everything. Andrew Jackson slapped them down.

But then we had a series of weak presidents like Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan who lit us out rise in ferocity. And then we had the Civil War. That was a rebellion against the federal government. The only other time in our history we've seen this was during a Vietnam War. But that was a populist uprising. Started out ideological. But then the war got out of control because of Lyndon Johnson's incompetency and deceit. And the American people, and that just cut across almost every barrier, said enough of this.

And the demonstrations happened. And violence happened. Kent State National Guard and a lot of other areas. Now, the federal government at this point has a couple of obligations. Has to enforce the law. Has to. But they can de-escalate violent confrontations. So if ICE agents see that there's a person like Ms. Good

impeding their investigation with a automobile, the vehicle, then you de-escalate that. You arrest her later, which they could have done easily. All right? You don't up it, because if there's a lot more violence, then the Trump administration is going to lose the country. It's going to. You've got to de-escalate in any kind of potential violent situation.

Now, that doesn't mean if the ICE agents are attacked, that they can't fight back. They should fight back. I'm not saying that. But if you can lessen potential violence, you have to do that. And that's not just me saying. That's every law enforcement agency in a country has that in their manual. If you don't have to use lethal force, you don't.

Get it later. Do it later. Now, that's number one. Number two, 77 million Americans voted for Donald Trump. And that vote needs to be respected. It's not respected by the left. Okay, it's not. And it's probably a vice versa on that, too.

But when 77 million Americans say we want immigration law enforced, you don't force it. The Trump administration is not doing anything wrong theoretically. Okay? but the ICE commanders have got to know that this is a volatile situation because if it gets worse

the Democrats are going to win the midterms and they're making their stand not on the economy now because the economy is pretty good they're making their stand on this this is the hill they're standing on illegal immigration

I think that's foolish I believe most Americans see this Minnesota those stuff for what it is, a provocation of the federal government, a rebellion against social order. I believe most of us see that. And the Democratic Party is standing opposed to that. It's going to hurt him, particularly because it's a weak party with no leader. But if you are calling ICE Gestapo and you are supporting open borders and no supervision of foreign nationals, and you won't even cooperate in the 10 states that I mentioned with criminal migrant investigations. You wouldn't even

cooperate then. America's going to walk away from you, in my opinion. Summing up, the federal government has to enforce immigration law. But it has to be done a little bit differently now. Situation is just too volatile. We don't want dead people. Yeah. But we do want people held accountable. And that's a memo.

Now, the media, of course, is sympathetic to the rebellion. And again, that column is on bill o'Reilly.com, and I hope you read it. The worst, let me just set this up. MS, we don't even monitor anymore. here. We don't even monitor that. It's not a news agency any longer. It's separated from NBC News, their entertainment. Okay, it's like the food channel. So it's the far-left channel. We didn't pay attention. But CNN is a news agency. And the absolute worst on CNN is a woman named Abby Philip, who is a colossal leftist and uses skin color.

to denigrate her opponents. Awful. Anyway, here's what she was up to after the Minnesota shooting. Go. Is following ice around a crime? And number two, they are also being trained to actively impede, for the purpose of impeding them?

Yes. Is following ice around a crime? For the purpose of impeding them, yes. Okay, you went following ice around. She was impeding the investigation with a vehicle. Okay, and everybody knows that. On the entertainment side, I just want to bring you one because this gets into social media. This is the view, of course.

This is Disney, ABC. Go. Pete Higg said started an illegal war for oil in Venezuela. Right. Stephen Miller threatened a military takeover of Greenland. RFK Jr. slash childhood vaccine recommendations. And I shot and killed a United States citizen in Minneapolis. That sort of adds up to me like a dictatorship in the making.

There is no war in Venezuela. You know, any people make up whatever they want to make up. But again, this gets out there into social media, which is now the dominant delivery system of information to younger Americans. Conservatives do have their say. So they're mostly on the radio. But they're on YouTube and things like that as well. Let's take Ben Shapiro first.

The language that's been used about ICE, that they are terrorists, and ICE is the Gestapo. This sort of language leads to a permission structure specifically designed to increase ICE agents and to undermine their capacity to fulfill the law in non-dangerous environments. That is why people are out trying to physically obstruct ICE officers from doing their job. Well, there is incitement, but the ardent left, they sincerely believe there should be no border. Everybody should be allowed to come in here. That's an important point. Second guy is Matt Walsh. Go. You get the sense that for many of these left-wing terrorists, they've never suffered real consequences for their crimes at any point in their lives.

And as a result, they're emboldened. I'd be careful about calling all protesters terrorists. Okay? The woman who was shot and killed is good was not a terrorist. She's a misguided person who broke the law because she wasn't a terrorist. All right. Now, Portland, Oregon's most radical left city in the country by far. I mean, really, I worked there.

and it wasn't bad when I was there. I think I might have something to do with that because there's anchoring news. But now it's way, way out of control. And it's a shame. It's beautiful town. Police chief is a guy named Bob Day. So this story disappeared

because Border Patrol agents, not ICE, were pursuing two farm gang members who were accused, are accused, of a shooting in Portland, Oregon. Those gang members use their vehicle to try to run down the Border Patrol, and the Border Patrol shot two people. They're not dead. They're in federal custody. Listen to this soundbite from the Portland Police Chief. Go. What I can say is there is an association with the two folks yesterday and TDA. I hesitated to even share this information initially because I'm very aware of the historic injustice of victim blaming,

oftentimes portrayed by law enforcement, including this very agency that I've represented so proudly for so many years. and historically we have not been quick to disclose the potential criminal history of others. But I felt it was imperative because I was asked yesterday in the news conference what information we have. This is information we have. This in no way draws a through line to the actions or the behaviors that occurred yesterday. I want to speak for just a moment specifically to my Latino community. It saddens me that we even have to qualify these remarks. Because I understand, or at least have attempted to understand through your voices,

your concern, your fear, your anger. I mean, really, the Latino community wants violent Venezuela and gang members shooting up their town? Is that what the police chief thinks? This is what you got. In Portland, Oregon, in Minneapolis, in Boston, in Chicago, to some extent in New York City, some extent in Los Angeles, this kind of mentality. It's unbelievable. Okay.

By the two taken into custody, Luis Montcata, Okay, he's been arrested. He was led in on the Biden open border. He's been arrested a number at times. And a woman, Zambrano Contreras, who was accused of shooting at somebody, she's involved in prostitution, runs a prostitution ring allegedly. Those are the two that they were chasing. And this guy's crying that he has to tell the people of Portland about their criminal. criminal history. It sports and entertainment. Again, this bleeds on over into the social media. Golden State Warriors

head coach Steve Kerr, a notorious far left guy. Go. It's shameful, really, that in our country, we can have law enforcement officers who commit murder and seemingly get away with it. It's shameful that the government can come out and lie about what happened when there's video and witnesses who have all come out and disputed what the government is saying. So very demoralizing, devastating to lose anyone's life, especially in that matter. So Kerr convicts the ICE agents, no due process. What do you need due process for? Right, Steve? In totalitarian regimes, which is what you want? want. There's no due process. No, no, they were murders. Right? It's embarrassing. The ignorance of Steve Kerr is embarrassing. He's ignorant. He's a fool. Sorry to use that kind of personal

description, but it's true. And then there's the actor Mark Rofalo is even more left wing than Steve Kerr at the Golden Globes. Go. for her. This is for the people in the United States who are terrorized and scared today. I know I'm one of them. I love this country. And what I'm seeing here happening is not America. I'm not terrorized. I'm not scared. So I don't know the difference here. But he's terrorized and scared. Okay. I was far more frightened when Joe Biden led 15 million foreign nationals into the country unsupervised. Go fund me. So far for Renee Good, the woman who was killed, $1,500,000 for her children. I hope that gets to the children. I hope the money gets to the

children. Okay. Funds are supposed to be placed in trust for them. And then for the officers themselves, a bit more than $400,000 has been raised. for ICE officer Jonathan Ross and his family. So there's go fund me stuff. All right, so that wraps up our coverage on that. Let's go to the Clinton's Bill and Hillary. They've been asked to testify in front of the House Oversight Committee tomorrow and Wednesday, the president tomorrow,

and the former Secretary of State on Wednesday. They're not going to show up. I'll be stunned if they show up. So what happens then? The Oversight Committee, James Comer, says, you know, we want your depositions, closed-door private, about Epstein. Why? Because Bill Clinton took 26 trips aboard Epstein's plane,

a lot of them in conjunction with the Clinton Foundation, which Hillary Clinton is a chief. officer of. That's why. That's legit, I think, right? So they're supposed to show up, but they're not going to show up. And then what happens? Joyne's now from Washington is a lawyer Bob Driscoll. He is a partner in Dickinson and Wright is very well experienced in these matters. So we have a frame of reference with Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon, both defied subpoenas to appear before Congress and both were sent to prison because of it, correct? Yes. They both blew off their subpoenas completely. There was a referral to the Department

of Justice. The Department of Justice prosecuted both of them and gained convictions. In both cases, went up on appeal, and both convictions were upheld. Okay, so that was Merrick Garland and Joe Biden, the president. And they put them in the jail. And Navarro and Panon both said, okay, I'm willing to do the time. Now, that's not going to happen with Bill and Hillary Clinton, is it? I wouldn't be so sure. I think it could happen.

Do you think they're sitting president? A former president of the United States is going to get sentenced to prison because he won't show up and testify? I think there's a chance. I think that the precedent is there. the better approach for him to take would be to show up and object if they can object to specific questions, as harassing, as irrelevant, as simply asking embarrassing questions for the sake of that. But the ability of Congress to issue subpoenas is pretty well established. There are limited circumstances where courts have held that Congress has gone too far.

But I think that he's in better shape to protect himself by either showing up and objecting to the questions, having his lawyer object to the questions he thinks go too far, he doesn't want to answer, or by filing suit immediately before he's supposed to show up and trying to challenge the subpoena in a federal court in Washington. But to just blow off the subpoena puts him at risk of being held in contempt because the committee can hold them in contempt, refer to the whole House to hold them in contempt, and then the House would vote to hold them in contempt and make a referral to the Department of Justice. Yeah, the house is so close, though, he might not get, you know, he might not get, you might not lose.

But even if they don't show up this week, and are you thinking they're going to show up tomorrow and Wednesday? My guess would be that they will either show up or they will file suit in D.C. to try to challenge a subpoena and drag it out in litigation. I just think it's too big a risk to not show up at all. The case law is pretty clear that the courts do not like it if you, you blow off the subpoena completely. If there's a dispute over what you say when you're there, okay. I got it, but there's no, tomorrow, we looked at the House oversight schedule, there's nothing on it.

The subpoena still stands. So I understand, though, that they would have a second chance. They would get warned by Comer, and if they don't come next time or whatever, then they're going to get it. Will they give them a second chance if they don't show up this week? typically the way this would work and the way the chances he would get is the committee would schedule a vote to vote on contempt and presumably he could cure his contempt by saying he would show up before they took that vote after that the whole house could vote the other thing this happened this

year that's a new development um in this area of law is um jim jordan made a referral of a witness for his committee straight to the department of justice for obstruction when he didn't like the he thought the witness was too obstreperous and wouldn't answer the questions and he made a straight referral to the Department of Justice without going through contempt hearing. So I just think there's a lot of risk for the former president and the former first lady to not show up at all. They've got experienced counsel. I'm sure they're looking at all this. But I mean, I wouldn't bank on him. If there were a Democratic DOJ, okay, great. They would probably be open to hearing that this is a harassing subpoena and doesn't have to do with the merits. That's going to be very tough.

When you're on a play- They're not going to want to hear that. No. I think that they're going to look at. They're going to be sure over the ban in case. And they're going to say, look, if our guy had to go to jail, so do you. That's partisan, no. It'll, as you know, go beyond the, it'll go into the federal court system.

And if you are on Epstein's plane 26 times under the banner of the Clinton Foundation, you got to ask the questions about that. So the courts are going to go. It's legit. a midline of questioning. This isn't something just to embarrass the Clinton's last word. I think not showing up puts him in the worst position because his argument there is there's not one relevant question I could be asked. And that's clearly not true. The better course for him is to show up and answer what is fairly asked and object if he thinks they're trying to make a

spectacle of it or asking inappropriate questions just for the sake of exposing personal flaws he may have. Okay. I think not showing up is not a great idea for him, and I think he's at risk if he doesn't do it. All right. Well, we're obviously on it. Thank you, counsel. Appreciate your time very much. I'd overseas Iran.

So all of the Internet is down. Very hard to get anything out of there. There are pictures of the demonstrations. They've been going on since December 28th. Government's tottering, no question about that. I did talk to President Trump about this over the weekend, and I don't like to, you know, You know, it's a private conversation, but I can report that my take on it is that U.S. doesn't do military action unless it would be decisive. So if there's a tip that we get rid of the mullahs, who are obviously murderers,

they're killed between 500,000 and 1,000 people already, according to the rights organizations, the human rights organizations. So there's a tip that you can use military to bomb something or do something that to get them out of there, I support that. But just random, no. I think it's going to go. But, boy, it's slow. Because that police state is tight.

It's not as tight as Cuba. Okay, Cuba, but the people there are starving now. And there's no oil going in, so that means they can't. cool off their homes, they can't cook their food, they're going to go. Cuba is actually a tighter police state than Iran because of the size. It's easy to regulate the island of Cuba. It's not easy to regulate a big country like Iran. But both of them may go in the next few weeks, which is just,

and that's what the conversation between the president and myself was all about, the new realignment of the world, which is taking place, Greenland. So this one isn't nearly at the level of Venezuela, Cuba, or Iran. This is a matter of military bases and mineral rights. Okay. I think the Secretary Say Rubio is doing an excellent job. And I have somebody in there very close. He's not going to support military action, Rubio.

He's not. Because two things would happen. The American public would turn against the entire Republican Party and Trump administration. It's never going to happen that Americans are going to support military action against Greenland, ever. And number two, you can get the same thing you want by negotiation. Do the Danes, I don't have a lot of emotion invested in Greenland. Okay? Make a deal.

And there are supposed to be meetings this week in Washington between the Danish government, which oversees Greenland and Secretary of Say Rubio. I'm just praying, and I use our word literally, they work it out. Back with a final thought in a moment. All right, here is a final thought of the day. watching the Islanders, my favorite hockey team. And this happened. Roll the tape. Caper had his stick snap and quickly was handed a stick.

And now racing to the bench, his Heinemann to pick up a new twig. As he quickly handed his off the Schaper. Garzal has it. And a puck floats off his stick. So the zone cleared by the factor. And that is Ryan O'Reilly. He is so good. They just called him the O'Reilly.

Riley factor, right? He impacts every player he seems to play with. That's right. That was his nickname in St. Louis. His teammates gave him that. They call him the, not the, the factor. That's a huge, huge compliment. And he's certainly won the cons of life. He's played in the National Cup winner in St. Louis as the captain. He's earned that nickname. Well, it's a compliment to us, as for sure. And Ryan O'Reilly is a tremendous player. I got a call from Dennis Miller years back when he was at a St. Blues game and Ryan O'Reilly was playing for the blues. They say, they're all chatting the factor when

Ryan O'Reilly comes out. So thank you. That's all I can say. It's a nice compliment when you go Islander's second place. Come on. We're watching them. Thank you for watching and listening to the first place, Snow Spin News.

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