Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Is Trump Moderating His Positions?, Dylan Corbett on U.S. Immigration and the Catholic Church’s Controversial Statement & the President vs. BBC 

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Tonight's rundown:  Talking Points Memo: Bill gives a rundown of the four issues that President Trump seems to be softening on this past weekend: tariffs, Zohran Mamdani, Venezuelan President Maduro, and Epstein. Dylan Corbett, Executive Director of the Hope Border Institute, joins the No Spin News to discuss immigration enforcement, Trump’s handling of asylum, and the Catholic Church’s latest controversial statement on immigrants. President Trump plans legal action against the BBC, and the network speaks out. Thousands marched in Mexico City to protest violent crime and express opposition to President Sheinbaum’s government. Why Bill argues this is America's fault. Final Thought: Bill's thoughts on Ken Burns’ Revolutionary War documentary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You got the allergy thing going on. I dodged it for the first two and a half months of autumn. Then wham! Okay, so that's, I'm not complaining. I mean, I'm not on the disabled list. I'm ready to go. But I'm a little discombobulated. And I don't like taking all that medicine stuff, you know.

Because they say, oh, it's non-drowsy, like that. Anyway, we'll get through it, and we've got a lot of interesting things to tell you. So get ready for some hysteria about Epstein. But here's the kicker. So Congress is going to vote tomorrow on whether to release the so-called Epstein files. I don't even know if there are any files, but there's data. Definitely data. And Congress will vote to release it.

And so it'll have to be released. And President Trump, and I'll explain in a moment, it's changed his position here a little bit. But that could change back, you know. But it's not going to be released until 30 days. If Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, wants to hold it up. It gets held up for 30 days.

It doesn't matter. The media is desperate. There's no big story for them to crush now. So they'll speculate, we don't do that. But we are following this very, very closely because there's a lot of important things associated with it politically. I don't happen to believe there's going to be any major news breaking about Epstein. But I could be wrong. And we'll report it accurately if there is.

So the talking points this evening is President Trump's moderation over the weekend. Okay? Interesting. So there's four areas. The first are on tariffs. And I had always said when the tariffs took place that we would not know if they were successful until the end of the year. Well, the end of the year is about here. They have been successful in raising money for America. They have not been successful in driving down prices. So it's a split decision. And the prices are what's going to hold up. the Trump administration for the next 12 months. You've got to get them down to win them in terms. Okay. So over the weekend, President Trump said he's going to drop tariffs on beef, coffee, tropical fruit, bananas, avocados, coconuts, pineapples, oranges, tomatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes,

peppers, limes, vanilla beans, mangoes, fertilizers, and other stuff. This is an attempt to drive grocery store prices down. Now, I learned over the weekend that the reason that beef steak and ground beef is so high is because we used to buy a lot of Mexican meat, but we can't now because there's some kind of parasite thing down there. And the United States Agricultural Division says they can't import Mexican. beef right away the price of beef goes up it's all about supply and demand as you know okay i didn't know that but some hideous bug or something that is infected the cattle in mexico and we can't buy

that cattle boom our prices for beef go up that's what that argentinian thing was all about so now we're going to buy beef from argentina i don't know it might be too late on a beef front the others i think will fall pretty fast okay so i can afford uh anything i want to eat i'm lucky fortunate and i know it but i'm not eating a lot of steak and ground beef you know i i'm doing it to do my part to drive prices down all you chicken fish shellfish shrimp you know that kind a thing. But I can't remember the last time I ordered a $75 steak in a restaurant. No. And again, I can afford it, but if everybody thought the way that I did, then meat and beef prices would not be nearly as high. So that's just me. I mean, that's what I do. All right. So that's

a change. The tariffs are being lifted to try to get American food prices down. Second, Mamdani. So you remember that President Trump called him a communist, and he was going to withhold all federal funds from New York and drive this guy nuts. That was on November 3rd Truth Social. Well, over the weekend, he said, well, I'm going to work at a meeting with Mamdani. Mammie wants to meet with Trump. Of course you would. All right, billions of dollars of federal money flows into New York City. So, there'll probably be a meeting. Here's what the president said, quote, the mayor of New York, would like to meet with us, we'll work something out.

He'll come to Washington. We want to see everything work out well for New York, moderation, right? So, Mamdani will probably get his meeting in here. This was a surprise, not, that wasn't surprising to me. But this one was, Maduro, the dictator, heinous dictator, awful in Venezuela. So, as you know, the United States moving the USS Ford aircraft carrier down there and other ships, saber-rattling about Maduro. Well, now the president is saying he'd consider talks with Maduro.

Maduro's desperate. Now, he knows his life is like this. So Maduro will have to talk to him. And I don't think there's going to be a lot of moderation here. I think President Trump will say, look, time to get out, Nick. We'll let you go where you want, but you're not going to be there much longer. Go the hard way or the easy way. That's probably what that conversation is going to be.

Okay. I'm guessing, don't have any direct knowledge, but I know President Trump, as well as anybody knows him, and I would think that would be the message. But he won't deliver that message, the President won't, until he sees Maduro face-to-face. That's not going to be a public thing. Finally, Epstein in this situation, the president was against. When I talked to him on St. Patrick's Day of this year, he wasn't against releasing the data from Epstein that the Department of Justice has, because we talked about it, that he was against

releasing it. Now he's not against releasing it again, but who knows tomorrow? This changes back and forth. But here's what you need to know. President Trump knows exactly what the DOJ has. Exactly. I understand there are a few references to him. in the Epstein data, but they're not anything that would be embarrassing or bad. And this is the problem that Epstein knew thousands of people and associated at a very high level with people in New York City. If you just dump the data, then all of those names will be out there and then people who don't like those names will try to hurt other people, families too. That's what I told President Trump. If it's vetted, for example, Epstein flew down to the Virgin

Islands where he owned property. There's a manifest that has to be filed. If your name's on the manifest, that comes out. Justice Department got to put it out. That's vetted information. You're on a plane with Epstein. I have no compunction about that. And then if the press asks you why you're on a plane, you got to tell them. Okay? But if you're just in a meeting with Epstein and five, seven other guys or gals, and you don't have anything to do with them, it was a business meeting of some kind, why should your name be put in that poison ground? That's what I told Cuomo on Wednesday. You might remember that. Chris Cuomo on a news station.

I said, look, you know, you can use this stuff to smear people to really hurt them. Cuomo goes, I don't care. I want to see it. And I said, well, that's not right. And he goes, no, let the people decide. How can the people decide? We don't have investigative abilities or subpoena privileges. We don't know.

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So anyway, those are the four moderations. over the weekend. Tonight, the president addresses McDonald's, owners, operators, and suppliers in Washington. He's got to talk about beef, right? Donald lives and dies off beef, so that's what's going on tonight. All right, now to illegal immigrants. In certain communities, like Catholic Church in America, the words illegal immigrants are never used. All right, progressive areas, never used the word illegal. Don't use the word undocumented, mostly either, okay, because their thinking is no human being is illegal. You've heard that.

So Catholic Church never, ever issues a pronouncement about illegal aliens. They call them migrants. So there was a meeting last week in Baltimore, all the American Catholic bishop, got together, and they elected a new president, Archbishop Paul Coakley from Oklahoma City. Don't know him. And they issued a statement, and here is the statement. We are disturbed when we see among our people, the climate of fear and anxiety around questions of profiling and immigration enforcement.

We're saddened by the state of contemporary debate and the vilification of immigrants. We are concerned about the condition in detention centers and the lack of access to pastoral care. We lament that some immigrants in the United States have arbitrarily lost their legal status. We are troubled by threats against the sanctity of houses of worship and the special nature of hospitals and schools. We agree. We meet parents who fear being detained when taking their children in school and when we try to console family members who have already been separated from their loved ones, unquote. Okay. Now, as I'm not as we, a Catholic myself, I think that's fine. That statement is right. Catholic doctrine, all right,

teaches that the Catholic Church always affirms the rule of law. So there isn't an exception to that. Joining us now, no, no, let me do one more thing before we get to the guest. We have a good guess here. I'm going to learn a lot from this. So the problem here is ICE, the enforcement of immigration law. I have gone on record as saying, I support not mass deportations, but certainly registration of every undocumented migrant and then the adjudication of their cases. All criminal gone, deported right away. But if a judge signs an order of deportation, right away.

I'd like a lighter touch when ICE goes in, because there are people who are not criminals, but who do associate with criminals. I don't have a lot of sympathy for those people, but I do for the children who don't know. They don't have any choice. So here's what I said. The White House Borders are Tom Holman, and he disagrees with the Catholic Church's position. very much roll the tape we saw during the Biden administration when there wasn't no immigration enforcement or 4,000 aliens died making a journey historic record quarter million americans died

from fentanyl historic record secure borders saves lives i wish the catholic church would understand that we have the right to secure our borders that have the right to secure their facility you know you can't enter their facility without getting arrested matter fact the penalties for entering their facilities are much worse than ours so you know we're going to force a law Okay. And now let's get to the guest. I was going to run a sound bite, but I just told you, I did tell or suggest to, because I was respectful to Tom and Mr. Homan, who I like. He's a stand-up guy. Lighter touch might be better on this. Bill O'Reilly here. I recently sat down with President Trump in Florida, and I can tell you, he is laser-focused on helping Americans prosper during his second term. That's why I have joined forces with Alexander Green. chief investment strategists at the Oxford Club for a special presentation called

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It's good to be with you. Great to be on your program. Thanks for the invitation. It's a good question. I think there was the perception that not everything was as orderly as it could have been under the Biden administration. And I think we were certainly vocal about some real criticisms that we had. The way that they enforced immigration law at the border, the way that they really didn't coordinate the arrivals, they didn't do enough to coordinate it in a secure, in an orderly,

in a safe way here at the border, the way that they didn't coordinate the arrival of people into many of the interior cities like we saw in New York, that generated perceptions of chaos, that generated the perception that the system wasn't working. And I think that we were fairly critical. There were also a number of people because they did take some real steps in the direction of increased enforcement at the border. And here in El Paso, for example, during the Biden administration, we saw the numbers of people skyrocketing, the numbers of people who were dying at the border skyrocketing because there was no real way. And Holman made that point.

But look, we research your organization. We don't find anything that you objected to the open border policies of the Biden administration. No statement, no interview by you, nothing. So you might have been disturbed by the chaotic aspect of it, but you certainly didn't come out and say, look, we need to stop this. So Trump gets elected. He stops it almost immediately. So what you saw and your agency had to deal with disappeared in about 45 days.

Did you object to Trump stopping it? Well, I think that we all agree. I think Americans, you know, whether they're on the right or on the left, whether the Republicans or Democrats, that we need to have a well-managed border. Okay, but what Trump did, though, let's get specific, not theoretical. Theory gets us nowhere in this interview. Trump stopped it. Do you object to the way he did it? Yeah, I certainly have some issues with the way he did it because there's a cost.

Okay, give me one objection. What did he do that you don't like? You know, there's a cost to doing what the president did. The president basically, you know, he shredded our system of asylum and he shredded our system of receiving refugees. People who are fleeing, you know, they're fleeing wars, they're fleeing serious violence, they're fleeing serious causes of poverty. causes a poverty which are driving them to flee and, you know, to migrate to our border

in search of protection. Okay. So you see you, you think that he shredding it. Now, the official policy of Homeland Security is you can apply for asylum in the United States. You have to go to a port of entry to do so. You can't just be caught in the desert in Texas or Arizona, say to the ICE agent or the border patrol agent, I want asylum, which is what Biden allowed. That was the big thing.

They disregarded the Biden administration. The law Congress passed in 1952, saying all asylum must go through the American and councillor embassy in the home country or in the American ports of entry. Now, Trump is enforcing that. You can still apply for asylum here. So you have an objection to that? Well, I'd question that a little bit, Bill, because I think that the system of asylum really isn't being respected, neither at ports of entry nor in between ports of entry.

I'd quibble a little bit with how you characterize asylum law, because people do have the right under our federal law to apply for asylum, even if they were to cross in between ports of entry. But they could still do that. They don't have the right to apply for it on the ground. They have to go to a port of entry or an American facility in their home country. That's the law. That's what it says. There we'd have to disagree, because right now you're not able to go to a consulate

in Mexico or in Central America to apply to asylum. Simply doesn't exist. If you came to a port of entry, I can tell you right now from my experience, I'm only just a couple of miles from the port of entry here in El Paso. If you were to apply for asylum there, you're going to get turned back. You're going to get sent back to Mexico.

So the system right now is not functional. We don't have an asylum system in the United States right now. Let me look into that. Because from what I understand, it is still a functioning system. But if you're right, you're right. And I'll report it. Okay, let's move ahead. So you've got now between 10 and 15 new migrants that weren't here in the first Trump administration that are now here.

What is the responsibility of the United States government to support those people? Yeah, you raise a good question. And, you know, I think you said earlier in the segment that the United States government really does have a responsibility to know who's coming into our country. And we do. Important. We've got to manage the border so that it's done in a safe way. We've got to protect the national security of our country, and we've got to protect local communities. If people are threats to our community, as you said earlier, you know, you support immigration

enforcement of those who are threats. We do have to go after legitimate threats. We shouldn't be allowing anyone to gain the system, to exploit the system. We shouldn't be allowing traffickers to take advantage of the broken system. So immigration enforcement really does need to prioritize safety. We can agree on that. Now, what do we do with the other folks who are in the country, some of whom have been in the country for a long time, many who've been here for more than 10 years, many who've been here for more than 20 years, many people who have roots in the country, their children are going to our schools, they might have a small business. What do we do about those folks? That's the question on the table right now. Whether you agree with what's happening on the border or not, the question right now is what do we do with what we're seeing in the country around enforcement. You mentioned the bishop's statement. I think the big takeaway from the bishops is that they're really pushing back against mass deportation as a strategy for dealing with this population.

But it's really not mass, because, I mean, if you look at how many migrants are being detained, it's a 5% would be a hard number, all right, of all the people who were allowed in here under Biden. But I understand that. I would go a different way. I would, well, you don't object to criminal aliens being deported immediately, do you? Well, I think we do need to remove anyone who's a threat to our, the safety of our... All right. So criminal animals gone. And that includes DUIs, domestic services. The problem is, according to Director Holman, who's an honest man? I mean, he's a hard... I was going to say

a hard guy, but when they raid looking for migrants that have judges' orders signed for deportation and criminals, when they raid, very often they're... There are others with them, girlfriends, brothers, sisters, children who are here without credentials and they have to bring them all in. That's what the government says. Is that wrong? Well, as you said, I do think we've got to, we've got to target people who are threats to our local community.

But that's not what we're seeing right now. The data are pretty clear built. You know, if we look at everybody, for example, who's been targeted and arrested and detained this year under the Trump administration, two-thirds of people don't have a criminal conviction. So that's the vast majority. We're talking about the overwhelming people, the overwhelming percentage of people who have been targeted. Okay.

But one-third with criminal interactions, that's a hell of a lot of people in danger. But I'm with you. We don't have a disagreement there. If there's another way to adjudicate peaceful undocumented migrants, then we should explore that Congress's responsibility, of course, to do that, and they don't do it. Okay. Yeah, we've got a broken system, and both parties are at fault, and it's been broken for a long time.

And that's the reason that we're in this predicament right now, because we haven't, we've kicked the can, both the president, the White House. 100%. You can't be going in 1952 law, and it's 2025, and you people sit around, do nothing. Now, a Catholic Church, if you look at the theology, are you Catholic? I am, just like you. Okay. Okay.

So that we have to be compassionate to everybody who's poor and in a bad circumstance, and that includes undocumented migrants. And I am. I can prove it. But the Catholic Church A refuses to use the words undocumented, won't use. use it. And number two, portrays this as an issue where the government is the bad guy. The U.S. government is the bad guy. And I'll submit to you that the bishops are misguided because the government is trying to protect Americans from this massive wave that nobody has any control over. Do you see my point? I see what you're saying. I think, I would say that the

And I worked for the bishops for a number of years. I worked for the Vatican for a number of years that I think what's really happening is that these religious leaders are responding to what their local communities are seeing across the country. They're responding to two things. They're responding to that. The reality of these actions of ICE and immigrant enforcement and the raids that are really ugly. They're brutal. I mean, we're talking about moms being separated from families. We're talking about, you know, there's been situations where school teachers have been ripped out of school. you know, where parents have been ripped out of cars, where their kids are left behind. Nobody wants to see that. That's true. But that's not the rule. That is the exception. I think that they're responding to that, though. They're seeing, I mean, you've seen the images coming out of Chicago of Los Angeles,

you know, where we're deploying the Department of Homeland Security, but also the FBI, and in some cases, the National Guard and the military, nobody wants to see this. It's not good. And, in fact, it's turning off a lot of voters. A lot of people who supported Trump. and said, yeah, we want a secure border. Yeah, we've got to fix the immigration system. A lot of people are stepping back.

He's losing in the Latino vote. So I think the bishops are responding to what they're seeing locally, but they're also responding to the Pope. Pope Leo, you know, he's been outspoken about this, especially in the last couple months. But that's his job, see? But I'd like to interview Pope Leo. We're working on it, but I don't think he's going to do it.

But I would say, you're holding it. My first question, my first question after, asking him for forgiveness is, would be, listen, then every government, legitimate government has an obligation to protect its people. And when you let 10 to 15 million unsupervised foreign nationals into a country, that's not protecting your people, your holiness, is it? I'd love to see on how he answers that one. And they all fall back on. the teacher in that school or the mom and the, I got it. But there is a tremendous problem here fostered by our own government under Biden. I'll give you the last word. Yeah, I think the Holy Father

would respond this way. I think you'd say you're right. There's a place for borders. There's a place for governments managing immigration so that it's done in a way that's efficient. It meets our national security needs and maybe even meets our economic needs. I think the Holy Father would probably agree with that. But it'd also say that when we lead with compassion, that when we honor the stranger, when we welcome the stranger, we'll be better off for it because it's the Christian thing to do, it's the right thing to do. But it's also the American thing to do. He's from the America. He knows this is a country that's benefited from the contributions of migrants, that they're key to our economic resilience, our social resilience. They make us great as a

country. And I think he'd remind us of that, that there's got to be a better way, that compassion There's got to be a better way. You're right. But it isn't letting everybody in. And that is the impression that the Catholic Church is giving not only the USA, but in Europe as well. Mr. Corbett, very good debate. We really appreciate you and thank you for coming on today. We got some data here because Mr. Corbett was referring to. U.Gov poll just out, 1,065 adults, you approve or disapprove how ICE is handling its job. Somewhat or strongly approved, 39%, strongly disapprove or somewhat disapprove, 53. So Mr. Corby was correct there that there's a perception that ICE is overdoing it. According to this Paul, and I don't know if it's that big a gap, I think it's closer, but I know that there's some dissent. Democrats, 85% disapprove of ICE, Independence, 62%, Republicans, only 13.

percent. So it's a huge ideological issue as well. How would you describe the tactics currently being used by immigration and customs? Too forceful, 52 percent. About right or not forceful, enough, 37 percent. You can do this, but Congress has got to, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, okay? And they won't because each side uses the issue to galvanize its own. and it's wrong but it's been going on for so long now really is a dereliction of duty on Capitol Hill that's for sure all right Britain overrun not like we are but it's a much smaller country 110,000 last year people claim to asylum in the UK all you got to do is cross that english channel and you can do that by train in the channel now you're on there and you get asylum

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So they are overhauling their asylum situation, entire asylum. This is huge in Europe, but particularly in Great Britain. BBC, apologizing to Donald Trump. So as we reported, somebody in the British Broadcasting Corporation, took two separate sound bites, not related as far as day or time or anything like that, put them together to make Donald Trump look like he was calling for violence on January 6, 2020. That's what the BBC did. Now it apologizes.

But the guy who runs the BBC, who's got to be the biggest moron in the world, Samir Shah said it was unintentional. That's impossible, Mr. Shah. You had an editor grab from here, grab from there, spliced together to make Trump look violent. That's not unintentional. Here's what President Trump said. Go. We'll sue them for anywhere between a billion and $5 billion, probably sometime next week.

I don't know what percentage is owned by the country, but regardless if it's small or large or nothing, I can say this. The U.K. is very, very embarrassed by BBC. And the British government's going to have to pay. Do lose. Mexico City, finally, finally, the people of Mexico are rebelling against the cartels, the drug cartels, taken over their entire country. So there were thousands in Mexico City over the week,

and 120 injured, 100 of those police riots. And the folks are gone, enough. Roll the tape. This is one of the most corrupt governments we've ever had, a sold-out narco government that, instead of defending the people, chooses to protect the corrupt and the cartels. We're going to fight until the end. allow Mexico to become like Venezuela or Cuba, a dictatorship. Mexicans are fed up.

Not a dictatorship, the cartels is run it because the President Scheinbaum's afraid of them. That's it. She's afraid of them. She could cooperate the Trump administration. They could wipe those cartels out quickly. She's afraid. The other guy over door, I don't have any facts, just my opinion. I'd like me looking at his bank accounts.

at his bank accounts, overseas. One more point. It's our fault. This is America's fault that the cartels took over Mexico, because we buy the narcotics. Oh, everybody has a disease. Oh, oh, oh, hey, enough. It's our fault. Drug addicts running around causing mayhem. And we just let it go. No.

I'm going to do more on that. Tariff checks, 71% of voters say, good, well, I want it to 2,000 bucks. Problem here is that it has to be okayed by Congress, and the Democrats are not going to vote for it. But interesting situation, 71% want the money, according to your new poll. It's got to get in. I don't know if Speaker of the House Johnson's going to put it up, but that's the only way you're going to get the money. want the body myself, but 71% of it people do. That's ongoing.

Michelle Obama, don't bother me with running for the president of the United States. Go. Well, as we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready. That's why I'm like, don't even look at me about running, because you all are lying. You're not ready for a woman.

You are not. So don't waste my time. You know, we got a lot of growing up to do. And there's still, I'm sadly, a lot of men who do not feel like they can be led by a woman and we saw it. We saw what? Amala Harris is the worst candidate in the world. If that's what you got, she's going to lose every election. Come on with the woman stuff.

It's a bad candidate. Final thought in a moment. All right, I'm watching the Ken Burns Revolutionary War thing on PBS last night. Felt asleep. Literally fell asleep. Now, I know all about it, but it's my job to look at this stuff, historical stuff. It was so boring I couldn't believe it. It was almost like they tried to make it boring.

$30 million budget. The estimate is on Burns is. documentary. I can't, I can't even go back. So, here's my advice. If you read Killing the Witches and then read Killing England, both are exciting, you'll know more than if you watch the eight episodes or whatever it is, six episodes of birds. I'm sorry, Ken. Boring. I can't believe it because it's such an exciting topic. Thank you for watching and listening to the NOSPIN News. I'm Bill O'Reilly, we'll see you again tomorrow.