Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Kash Patel vs. The Swamp, Is California Gone Forever? Victor Davis Hanson Weighs in, & Hunter Biden Pardon Fallout

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the No Spin News, Tuesday, December 3rd, 2024, stand up for your country. Some are saying that Joe Biden's legacy, presidential legacy, has been shattered by the Hunter Biden Biden Biden pardon. So my question is, what legacy is that? What are we talking about? So his four years, almost four years now, I've been a complete failure across the board. And I know people don't believe that, some people,
Starting point is 00:00:43 but they don't want to believe it. You can present all the evidence, and I have. If you're reconfirming the presidents, I've got Joe Biden's second worst, and I back it up, and everything that I predicted about Joe Biden has come true. But the one big thing is you open the border and 14 million foreign nationals come in here and supervised and you have not explained why you did that.
Starting point is 00:01:07 And for years you denied that there was even an open border, Mr. President. Come on. So this is a disaster. And the Hunter Biden thing just is basically that little cherry that you put on top and then it's over, the decorations are over. So we're going to get to President Biden in a moment, but the Hunter Biden is being overhyped. And I knew it would happen. We went through this last night.
Starting point is 00:01:37 We pledging my soundbite. And it's not really about that, about Hunter Biden evading punishment. It's not. What it is is that the Biden administration, and I'm including the vice president years, were, let's just say, very dubious because he used his power to enrich his family. And there is no question about that. And when you go throughout history, a lot of presidents did a lot of bad things. That's up near the top.
Starting point is 00:02:18 But again, we'll get to Mr. Biden in a moment. First, the talking points memo reforming the federal government. This was a big promise made by Donald Trump on a campaign trail, and he's got to do it, and he knows it, and he is appointing people he believes can accomplish that, reforming the federal government, better known as draining the swamp. Okay, the latest is Cash Patel. So we've had Mr. Patel on his program. He's a very intelligent guy. He's got national security experience. There's no reason on earth that he can't run the FBI.
Starting point is 00:02:53 that if he gets confirmed, that he will hire experienced FBI personnel to help him run a day-to-day. But the philosophy is that Cash Patel is going to basically break that entire bureau down and rebuild it, and it needs to be rebuilt. Okay? So the reason that there's so much objection on the left to Cash Patel isn't because he's a designated. hatchet man for Trump, and he might be, but that's not the reason. The left does not want the FBI dismantle because it's a leftist concern. It's run and has been for more than a decade by Arden liberals. And they don't want, they want to keep that power.
Starting point is 00:03:43 That's what it's about. So I was on News Nation last night, and here's what I said. go. Cash Patel is a good guy to have running the FBI. I hope that he picks as assistance, Mr. Patel, is a very smart man.
Starting point is 00:04:01 People who are within the FBI who have survived this horror and can advise him on how to run it day by day. But if you think that the Federal Bureau of Investigation would totally booted the Hillary Clinton National
Starting point is 00:04:17 Security on a personal phone, Totally booted Russian collusion, totally ignored influence selling by the vice president of the United States. If you think that this agency doesn't deserve to be blown sky high, then you're just simply wrong. So I want Patel in there. I want him to dismantle the corruption. And he will. And I think he's going to get confirmed, although there are a couple of wavering Republican senators. I think you'll get through.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Because if most of the Republican senators vote to confirm Cash Patel and a couple don't, Trump is, that's not going to be a good thing for those people. And it's all about self-interest in Washington, as you know. Now, all of this maneuvering into the various agencies is because of Trump's first term. So Donald Trump came in and appointed people, you remember, who was the first attorney general, Jeff Sessions. And they just ran them around. I mean, Sessions didn't know what he was doing. He finally got a professional in there, Bill Barr, to be attorney general.
Starting point is 00:05:25 But Barr did not drain the swamp. He didn't do anything to stop the left-wing culture. In fact, I think he liked it, Barr. So Trump got frustrated and angrier and angrier because the people that he appointed to try to reform the government didn't do the job. So now he's going for the bomb throwers. Now, some of those bomb throwers have heard him. All right, Matt Gates, not qualified. Okay, Pete Hegseth, not qualified.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And he's not going to get it. All right, Bobby Kennedy, Jr., not qualified. Although I'm very sympathetic to RFK Jr.'s food campaign. I would make him an advisor. But you've got to have some semblance of experience to run these operations. and to know who's hurting the country and who isn't. So it's going to be different this time around. Patel, I believe, will be the FBI director.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And I'm praying that the most powerful law enforcement agency on earth, the FBI becomes honest again. Wouldn't that be nice? And that's a memo. Okay, Joe Biden's over in Africa. He's having celebrations over there doing something. Nobody's quite sure. what he's doing, but he's there.
Starting point is 00:06:48 This is very excellent, as Wayne and Garth might say. He's lucky he's there because he's here, it's all about Hunter. Now, President Trump did something very kind today. On November 21st, there were three Palm Beach County deputies killed on a roadside accident. They were investigating, and a Jeep speeding Jeep killed them all, smashed them on a road. So President Trump went to the memorial service today. And that was a very kind thing to do. Joe Biden wouldn't have done it, okay?
Starting point is 00:07:25 There's no way on earth he would have done it. And I know it was close by, I know all that, but that's what he did. Didn't get any much print at all in the media. All right, let's go out to California. Now this is a fascinating story. So Governor Newsome, who believes he's, believes he's still a viable national political candidate.
Starting point is 00:07:48 He's not. He's done. Okay, but he held a special session yesterday in conjunction with the California legislature. I don't really know what that means to oppose Donald Trump. They're setting up resistance in California. Okay. I mean, you know, so what, right? Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress.
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Starting point is 00:09:16 Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to turn into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't. So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2 p.m. coast every day. Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. We went over this. If Governor Newsom fails to obey federal law,
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'd have Cash Patel arrest him. In fact, if I were Cash Patel, I'd go arrest him myself. Like Jay Edgar Hoover did with, who did, I wrote killing the mob. Who did Cooper? Hoover put the cuffs on, was a pretty boy Floyd, one of those gangsters, because they were saying bad things about Hoover. But anyway, if I'm cash for telling me, the FBI director, and new governor Newsom violates federal law by obstructing investigation, whatever. I go out there, Sacramento, and I put the cuffs on them. Did they tell everybody, hey, we're stopping this? Right. Okay, so joining us now is a guy who's lived in California probably since the gold run. His name is Victor Davis Hansen.
Starting point is 00:10:41 He's an esteemed scholar, Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He lives in a valley. Selma, I shouldn't even say that, but he's not a coastal elite. And he had a pretty good view. I think Mr. Hansen is the best columnist, better than me. And I read him every week. He's also the author of the book, The End of Everything. All right, so let's talk a little California,
Starting point is 00:11:06 and then we'll get into a little Democratic Party. So is California gone forever? Are the people out there just so ardently liberal? They just can't think about the welfare of their entire country? Or is it possible they may come back? Well, they have to change. The way we got in this problem is that we lost 10 million of the old Pete Wilson, George Dismasian, Ronald Reagan voter over the last 30 years,
Starting point is 00:11:35 who fled to Nevada. and Tennessee, Texas, Idaho. And then we had 11 million illegal aliens come in in that same period. So there was a 20 million person demographic shift. But what's happened, Bill, is the interior of the state is where most of the 45% of the Hispanic population, who is the largest minority in the state, live. And they are now becoming middle class and they can't make it. They can't buy homes.
Starting point is 00:12:06 They can't pay for gas. We have the highest gas taxes. We have the highest electricity rates. We're very high with our sales taxes. We have a third of all the welfare recipients. And they are becoming very conservative. Not all at once, but they've, don't Trump flip five counties in California from 2020, from blue to red.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Some of them, like Fresno County, are very big. And so there's a movement. I don't think it's the beginning of the, end, but it's the end of the beginning. We're just starting to see people cannot afford Gabman Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Box, or Jerry Brown. They can't afford it. But the coastal elites in Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, the biggest county in the country, San Francisco, half of San Diego. I was saying San Diego is a battlefield politically.
Starting point is 00:12:58 But the coastal release, the George Clooney's and the movie stars, and the tech people, they just are so entrenched into this progressive life. I don't think they're ever going to get out of it, and that's where the big money is, see? They have to change. Yeah. You're right about that. So from San Diego, basically, to Berkeley, you've got three things working.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You've got, that's where our universities are, Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley, they're all there, and they're big, and there's a lot of them. They're very, world-ranked some of them. And then you've got $9 trillion of market capitalization in Silicon Valley, and then you've got the Bay Area left-wing political establishment, and that trifecta makes it very hard. But you're starting to see – it's not just the Elon Musk or Peter Till in Silicon Valley. You're starting to see people like Andreessen and Ben Horowitz, David Sachs. These were left-wing people and said, these guys are lunatics.
Starting point is 00:13:59 We won't be able to function, and we're going to lose Silicon Valley to Austin, or we're going to lose it to Research Triangle in North Carolina unless we straighten up. And this state is our enemies. That's not our friends anymore. That's new. It's just beginning. And we have, we recall the mayor of San Francisco and of Oakland and the deal. So it's not, it's not something that's going to, you know, be happy. It's not going to happen overnight, but it's just the very beginning of something. See, but I don't understand why it doesn't happen overnight when the average Californians paying more than $5 for gallon of gas. I mean, it's so far ahead of everybody else.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Here in New York, no conservative bastion, I'm paying three bucks a gallon for gas. Okay? I go to L.A., which I am going to do, I have to, in a few weeks. I'm going to pay five, all right? Yeah. Well, I think you'll, with all due respect, I think you'll pay $5.50. All right, whatever. Popular uprising doesn't.
Starting point is 00:15:01 seem to be happening. And that's what I don't understand. But let me ask one specific question. So I have said that Kamala Harris is going to run for governor. I think what's his name is up in two years and he can't run again, Newsom. And I think Kamala Harris is going to run. Do you concur? She might run.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I don't think she'll have a chance. She ran for Attorney General the first time, and she almost lost. It took two weeks to count the votes, and that was in a 70% left-wing state. She's not popular here. The Hispanic community is not fond of her. We have one of the smallest black populations. Only about 4% of the state is black now, and the identity politics doesn't work so well. But the main thing, Bill, is most of her money, that billion dollars and maybe the other billion and packed money actually came from California, from Silicon Valley and Hollywood, and they are furious at her because of the Oprah, Cardi B, Beyonce, spending, the private jets,
Starting point is 00:16:10 the Nova County, and they're not going to give her any money. I hear that all the time from these people. But who would challenge her? So, big name, everybody knows her. ID is huge. Still got the machine behind her. So who could challenge her for governor. Well, we don't have anybody, yeah, we don't have any, but there's a lot of assemblymen, senators in the state that Los Angeles City Councilmen, they'll find somebody. But I don't think that her name, yeah, I think she's going to have a Mike Dukakis from retirement, just obscurity. I really do. All right, I hope so, because she doesn't really bring anything to the table and never has, in my opinion, my home opinion. So let's go national now. I don't know of most people in the country, people who watch you and me,
Starting point is 00:16:58 our columns and watch the NOSPN News and all that. They know. They know what happened four weeks ago, exactly four weeks ago. It was not only that Donald Trump won the election, but the Democratic Party was destroyed on a national basis. There's no leader for the Democratic Party now, none. So my question to you is, how fast can they rebuild for the next election four years away. Yeah, I think they have to lose the midterms because they haven't got the message yet. They keep saying it was the messaging that they didn't present their case well enough. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Every one of the issues that Donald Trump ran on pulled even higher than Donald Trump did, the border, the economy, crime, overseas, deterrence, the trans issues, the DEI, woke issues. They were losing across the board, and they haven't given that up. They keep thinking that, well, maybe if we had done just this much, or we had the Joe Rogan, that's not the problem. And this is despite 95% negative coverage of Donald Trump in the mainstream media, and they outraged him two and a half to one. They had all the advantages, and yet somehow, as you said, he had this mandate, and it was much bigger than actual the electoral college or the popular vote mandate because the issues were all on his side, and they polled overwhelmingly
Starting point is 00:18:26 in his favor, and yet they don't seem to have gotten the message. And they always think they can have a fix, Bill. They always think, you know, maybe we can drain the strategic petroleum reserve, or get Roe versus Wade, leak that memo out, or maybe we can cancel student loans as they did in the midterms, or this time around it. Maybe we can get a new candidate, or maybe we can promise this or that, but it's just they don't get it. Fundamentally, the middle class has spoken. There's nobody to get it. There's nobody in charge. There's no power, no single power. I guess Schumer would be the most powerful
Starting point is 00:19:03 guy, and he just wanders around Schumer. I mean, they got Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. They got the guy in Kentucky who's the governor, pretty popular. They got some moderate Democrats that they can parade on out there. But they are not progressives. And the progressives, the Soros money, the Hollywood money, Katzenberg, these people, they still control the party because they have all the money. No, they do. But you've got to remember, who were the people who got rid of Joe Biden? They weren't, as you say, they weren't politicians, basically.
Starting point is 00:19:38 They were the Obamas and the donor class, and Nancy Pelosi came in. So they were, they represented, as you said, the progressive party who the people don't want anymore. And they have a lot of power because they had Hollywood, the Clooney's and the money, the Sorosos, the Silicon Valley money. And then they had Pelosi and the Obama's pulling the strings. But the price they paid for that is they haven't developed candidates of the Bill Clinton type that can appeal to people. But it took them from McGovern to Bill Clinton. You know, we're about the same age. That was 20 years. It took them to get from McGovern to Bill Clinton. Right. Well, if Trump is successful, that shoes in J.D. Vance. Because that won't even be close. But you're right. It's a long game.
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Starting point is 00:22:16 But it was really the folks that drove this election, that most Americans said, enough, we don't want this anymore. And I, you know, I wavered in 22, Professor, because the midterms did not go the Republican way. And I predicted there was going to be a red wave in 22, because I saw this progressive destruction very early on. But it didn't happen. But the last two years, there was almost something. magical that happened in the country. Can you put your finger on it? Well, I think we'd had two years of disaster, but we hadn't had four years. So in this election, two years after, people thought, well, maybe this is so bad that border will be closed or we
Starting point is 00:23:06 can't go on with another Afghanistan pullout. So maybe that'll be the end of it. But it wasn't. And the other thing was that Donald Trump wasn't on the ballot. You're right about it. him he's a larger than life figure everything they did to destroy and made him stronger but the main thing about him is he's able to appeal to and energize the middle class he tells the middle class don't don't disconnect don't drop out just because you don't want to watch Hollywood movies or you don't watch the Oscars anymore and you've given up get back in and vote because we can take the country back and that if you ask for a moment maybe that iconic moment when
Starting point is 00:23:44 And he was at the McDonald's window and that Indian American fellow said, I'm just an ordinary person. And right off the bat, Trump said, you're not ordinary. You're not ordinary. No one's ordinary. I thought that was a really key moment that kind of exemplified his appeal. Absolutely. For a guy who was raised in wealth, and I wrote about that in the United States of Trump,
Starting point is 00:24:08 he has got the common touch. Hey, Professor, we always enjoy talking to you. I hope you'll come back. And again, Victor Davis-Hansson's columns, I get them on real clear politics, which runs them steadily, so that's where you can get them. Very worth reading. And you have a Merry Christmas, Professor. Thanks very much for helping us out. All right, let's go back to Hunter Biden.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Blanket pardon, as you know, goes all the way back to 214, so federal government couldn't go into Burisma and all that. grift down there. And you got a point now where the media is embarrassed because the media propped up Joe Biden. Everybody knows that. And they don't know what to do because the media, and I didn't get into this with the professor because his expertise is politics. Mine is both politics and the media. The media, corporate media, is pretty much over in this country. They're not going to come back. I want to give you an example of this. So CNN's numbers are historically low now. I mean, in prime time, they do 400,000 people. You can get a chimp jumping up and down for an hour and get 400,000 people. All right, that's how bad it is. There's a woman there,
Starting point is 00:25:22 Abby Phillip, all right, who to me is, I don't know why she's there. Okay, I have no idea why this woman is hosting any kind of a national program. Well, she has been a big Biden supporter. And here's what she said on July 2nd. go and just to be just to be clear the president has ruled out pardoning his son for for that's you a dollar okay so that was there you know all along president's ruled out parting is like yeah okay well what now nothing now nothing i mean john stewart's make in front of biden he always does that and uh a few of the others are going oh oh no joe biden his second worst president in history and it was clear in 2022 that he was.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I wrote confronting the presidents more than a year ago. It's been out for 12 weeks, but you've got to write these books in advance. This guy was staggeringly bad. Yet, the corporate media propped him up and supported him. And that's why they're through. It's not about Trump. It's about Biden. That's why they're through.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Because even a Biden supporter is going, You told me he was great. You told me he was this. He told me he's parted in his son. He said 15 times he wouldn't do it. So that's what's going on there. Dinesh D'Souza on the right. Now, again, we told you.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And I hate to be an I told you so guy. But what am I going to do? I have to report the truth. There's Dinesh, smart guy. So he brought into the election conspiracy of 2020. And he produced a movie that basically said it was massive fraud. in the election, 2,000 mules. I must have gotten 2,000 letters about 2,000 mules.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Why aren't you showing 2,000 mules? Why aren't you doing this? Why? And my answer was simply because there's no evidence that any of this is true. This is just stuff that people want to be true. I looked at it. So now, Dinesh D'Sus is being sued because he used some people in the docudrama. what he put out, that wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:27:43 The other than I, couldn't prove any fraud. So he issued his statement, quote, one of the individuals has since come forward publicly initiated a lawsuit over the use of his blurred image in the film and book. I owe this individual Mark Andrews an apology. I now understand that the surveillance videos used in a film were characterized on the basis of inaccurate information
Starting point is 00:28:05 provided to me and my team. If I had known then, if the videos were not linked to geolocation data, would have clarified this and produced and edited the film differently, unquote, Anastas Susan. All right, well, good. He admits his mistake. I don't know what's going to happen with the lawsuit, but he was wrong. I said he was wrong. You yelled at me because you wanted to believe he was right.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You can't do that, no matter how overwhelming your opinion is. And if you want to believe the 2020 election was fraudulent, that's your right. You have a right to believe that. Donald Trump believes that to this day. And that is your constitutional right. But you can't say it's true unless you can back it up. with factual data okay so this is an important segment and i'm not doing it because i told you so i'm doing it because i want you to prosper in life all my viewers and listeners the millions
Starting point is 00:29:23 who listen to me daily i want you to prosper got to always step back away from your emotion and look at the facts. Smart life, and here's a good example. So according to Surgeon General, since 1965, smoking has declined 70% in America. Why? Because there's been a big government campaign. Smoking will kill you, cancer, on and on and on and on. And you people who chew, your whole mouth is going.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Okay? So it's tobacco chewing, it's smoking, it's all of that. pipe, whatever it may be. You get the stuff inside your system, chances are you're going to die a painful death. So 75% of the country says, okay, I'm not going to do it. Because we know just as bad as tobacco is sugar. Yet there is no warning. And this is what RFK Jr. wants. And he's right. So if you drink these energy stuff, Coke, Pepsi, all of this, Massive amounts of sugar are coming into your body. Massive.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And you're going to get diabetes. The stats are unbelievable. All right. According to the Medical Journal Lancet, which is credible, by the year 250, okay, 260 million citizens here in the USA are going to be obese or overweight. 260 million. We got 330 here now. We'll have a few more then,
Starting point is 00:31:01 but that's probably 60% of population. And obesity costs now, 173 billion annually. Diabetes costs 413 billion. That's $600 billion a year on sugar-related
Starting point is 00:31:23 disease. It's unbelievably staggering. Yet you go into any deli, any departments, and they're lined up. The iced teas, this, this is a smart life segment. So I'm pounding this drum because I didn't catch on to this until later in life. I drank the Coke and the Pepsi, I did. Not a lot of it, but enough to get my blood sugar elevated into a an area that if I didn't stop would hurt me. So how did I stop? Well, there are dozens of drinks on
Starting point is 00:32:04 the market that taste okay and don't have sugar. I drink sparkling ice. I drink no sugar, iced tea, no sugar. Don't use that chemical stuff, all right? That's fine. And water? But you go into a frappuccino or a monster energy drink. You're just killing yourself. So I want the federal government under Trump to pound this drum to let everybody know you're going to die a painful death if you don't cut the sugar back, period. Stay in history, December 3rd, 1800. So this is the second election. George Washington, yeah, he was kind of appointed by the states, the new states, then re-election slammed dunk, then Adams was. his VP, Adams got elected, so there's the fourth. It's now four guys running, okay? This is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So it's Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Charles Pinckney from South Carolina, and who's the other guy? Pinkney, Adams, Aaron Burr, Aaron Burr. So they're all running, okay? There's no point. popular vote in 1800. It was the states. And each of them had two electoral votes. And the legislatures would decide who they wanted. So it's a tie. And this was like chaos. I think it was chaos 2020 and 2000 when it was Gore v. Bush. This was chaos. So Burr and Jefferson tie. They're in the same party, but they're totally different people. They hate each other. In fact, Jefferson charged Burr with treason. He had to go into a trial.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Well, boy, they hate each other. And it went into Congress, and Congress picked Jefferson. And Burr was VP. What a mess. And that's how Thomas Jefferson, he was reelected. And then in 1804, the 12th Amendment was passed. So you had separate electoral college and a popular vote came in. So if you read confronting the presidents,
Starting point is 00:34:24 I go into this pretty big. How chaotic that whole thing was, 224 years ago today, a tie between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr. We will be back with a final thought about how the folks saved America. Okay, final thought of the day. I wrote a column on Sunday, and we discussed this with Victor Davis Hansen earlier in the program tonight. It was really you guys. It was it was the regular folks. And Hanson is right, and Trump is right. There are no ordinary people. There's regular people, all right, that work hard, we're honest, want the best for our friends and family, we're generous. Regular people. Saved us. I didn't, you know, I knew that Trump is going to win because I'm an analyst and I got the numbers and all that. But when I was wrong
Starting point is 00:35:18 two years ago about the red wave. I went, man, you know, are most Americans that far gone? They can't see the danger of this progressive movement. They want to take your freedom away. Progressive movement wants a big central government telling you and me what to do, taking our stuff. You want that? And two years ago, you know, it was, but then four weeks ago. Everything changed. History changed. And the folks did it. You overcame the corrupt media. You overcame the massive spending. You overcame all of it. The bogus law fair cases against Trump. You just threw it all out. He saved us. So that is my column on Bill O'Reilly Dunn. And it's tidal. The folks saved America. You ought to keep that column because that gives us all. hope. We are still the greatest nation that does the most good in the world and provides the most opportunity for people who are here. Thank you for watching and listening to The No Spin News. I'm seeing you tomorrow.

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