Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - NO KINGS SEQUEL: Hating Trump and No Solutions, Mike Baker on the Iran Reality, the Pope's Anti-War Message & Joe Abraham on His Daughter’s Murder by an Illegal Migrant
Episode Date: March 31, 2026Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, March 30, 2026. Stand Up for Your Country. Talking Points Memo: Bill breaks down this past weekend’...s ‘No Kings’ protests around the country. The latest in Iran, will more U.S. troops be sent to the Middle East? Former CIA covert operations officer and Host of the Presidents Daily Brief podcast, Mike Baker discusses Iran, whether it is close to building a nuclear bomb, and why Europe isn’t aligned with the United States. Pope Leo XIV rejects claims that God justifies war in his Palm Sunday Mass message. Joe Abraham joins the No Spin News to share his story of losing his 20-year-old daughter in a drunk-driving hit-and-run by a Guatemalan citizen who was in the U.S. illegally. Final Thought: Find Bill’s latest appearances and specials on BillOReilly.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Monday, March 30th, 2012, 26.
Stand up for your country.
So two major stories in play, no Kings, and the action in Iran.
Both are not being reported accurately.
No surprise.
So let's do that.
We'll begin with Kings.
That is the subject of this evening's talking points memo.
Okay.
So an estimated 3,300 separate protests around the USA on Saturday.
We don't have the data because it only comes from the No King's coalition, and they're going to put out whatever they want.
So just take this with skepticism.
Fox is reporting that about 500 groups with an estimated $3 billion in combined annual revenues behind a coordinated No King's protests.
I think that's about right.
Some of the groups are indivisible.
That's based in St. Paul, Minnesota, which was the nexus of the No King's protest.
Open Society Foundation, George Soros, People's Forum, that's Singham, the Chinese guy we've been telling you about,
the Party for Socialism and Liberation in D.C., Freedom Road, Socialist Organization, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Code Pink.
So they're all far, far left groups.
This isn't an organic mainstream protests that we saw in Vietnam, for example.
These are activists, progressive activists, and they're very, very well funded.
Okay, millions, tens of millions of dollars pouring in there to get people organized,
to get them out on the streets.
But it's not unusual.
And this is the missing piece.
So 75 million Americans voted against Donald Trump in his second term.
75 million.
That's a lot of folks.
And they weren't voting most of them for Kamala Harris, who never demonstrated any kind of
acumen at all or problem solvable.
They were voting against Donald Trump.
They don't like him.
So to get a few million people.
people out on the street with 75 million didn't want them in the first place, that's not a big
deal. But again, it was well coordinated and the pictures were there, so television picks it up.
Now, there was actual glee on the part of the left-wing media, roll of tape.
Organizers say at least 8 million people showed up, and then on the right side of your screen,
you have CPAC.
Womp, Womp.
Notice a difference?
Which crowd do you think Trump
wishes he were a part of?
Okay, lady, I mean,
again, why anybody would watch
this kind of propaganda?
I have no idea.
Not many do.
But I just stunned anybody does.
So my question is,
all right, you got no kings.
And I don't object to that.
I think dissent is good.
You don't like Donald Trump.
Okay.
You want to show your displeasure, fine.
That's what the United States is built upon.
Protest.
As long as you do it peacefully, and most of them were peaceful,
except for the hardcore communists in L.A., Portland, New York City.
And these are anarchists.
These want to blow up the whole system.
But most people were reasonable out there,
and I have no beef with them.
But my question is, what are you protesting for?
So we know you hate Trump, but what's your problem-solving ability?
Here is the key.
Let's just run down a few.
So what would the no-kings protesters do about Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon?
Simple question.
What would they do?
I would assume nothing, but that's just an assumption.
I haven't heard one solution from any of those protesters about Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon.
Okay.
Number two, what would they do about immigration enforcement?
So how many times, and we'll tell you later on this broadcast, another horrible, horrible crime committed by a foreign national who's in this country illegally,
well, what would the no protests, the no king's protesters do about these people, when they don't want
any enforcement from ICE at all, no access? What would you do? How would you stop?
Those kinds of crimes are being committed by people who shouldn't be in the country.
Nothing comes forth. What'd you do about the war in Ukraine? You got a plan?
How did you handle Putin?
I don't know. Do you know?
If you know, Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com, Bill at bill o'Reilly.com.
Two more.
Food prices.
What would the No King's protesters do about bringing down price of food?
What?
And finally, health insurance premiums.
Now there, there is a solution.
Socialized medicine.
Government runs everything.
government dictates who you can see as a doctor, what you get as far as treatment, and how much the treatment costs.
That's what these protesters want.
So one out of five, they have a solution to.
But generally speaking, all this is venting, venting, venting.
We don't like Trump.
We don't like Trump.
We don't know how to solve the complicated problems.
We're not really interested in doing that.
We just don't want him.
No kings.
And that's the memo.
All right, let's switch over to Iran.
So, U.S. Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, said that there are fractures within the Iranian government, whatever that is.
Nobody knows what that is.
But apparently, according to Rubio, some Iranian leaders, I guess, want to make a deal.
with the USA and others don't. Always going to have that. The hardliners, they're never going to
give up. Okay? So that's what the U.S. is dealing with. Apparently, there are some talks going on,
but it's very, very murky. I just don't know, and I have very good contacts, as you know.
I don't know where this thing is right now. The president continues to make threats to Iran,
and now troops, 10,000 U.S. troops are going to the Middle East.
Now, this has been misreported like crazy.
So the 10,000 troops are there to do what they call missions.
Some of them are humanitarian missions.
Okay.
Some of them are targeted military missions where there's a certain strategy that has to be employed.
It can only be employed on the ground.
There's no occupation.
because that failed so dismally in Iraq.
And to some extent, in Afghanistan,
almost not nearly as bad there.
So the United States people are not going to accept an occupation of Iran.
Our soldiers are not going to go in and then set up camps to regulate what happens.
That's not happening.
What they may do, and this is certainly not confirmed by anybody,
because it would be top secret, is they might do missions.
Now, that has not been reported at all.
It's the usual hysteria.
I don't even think Duce Press people are smart enough to know the difference
between an occupation and a mission, and they certainly don't care.
So the casualty count remains fairly low.
13 U.S. service members have been killed, mostly in accidental stuff.
Nobody's been shot out of the sky or anything like that.
In Iran, the Red Crescent, which is their propaganda arm, says 2,000 people have been killed, but nobody knows.
Lebanon says about 1,300 people have been killed, but nobody knows.
On and on and on.
Israel, which is fairly accurate in its reporting, says 19 civilians.
Israelis have been killed since the action began, February 28th.
So, obviously, you don't want anybody getting hurt or killed, but it's very, very low.
So this really isn't a war.
This is an action, a military action.
More ships carrying oil are getting out of the Strait of Hormuz.
It's a good thing.
I suspect that if the Iranians don't come to the table this week, that U.S. troops are going to have to do something in the Straits of Hormuz.
But I don't know.
It's a guess.
Joining us now is a guy who may know.
Mike Baker was a CIA covert guy for about 16 years.
And he now hosts the President's Daily Brief, which is a podcast, well worth your time.
And he knows the turf over there.
Am I missing anything here, Mr. Baker?
Should I be emphasizing some fact in the theater that I'm not, that I'm missing?
No, I mean, I think you've hit the key points.
One is using the word murky when we're talking about the potential for negotiations or discussions.
I mean, this is a textbook example of mixed messaging, both from the U.S., from Iran, and also from potential mediators.
The Pakistanis have been very aggressive in trying to position their.
themselves as the mediators for this.
And they're all saying different things.
President Trump, in the course of one true social post,
said that we're having talks, productive, deal close,
and then in the same post.
But if you don't, we're coming after you.
We're going to obliterate you.
And so the Iranians are saying there's no talks going on.
And the mediators are saying, well, we're very hopeful
about potential peace negotiations.
So it's no wonder that.
the population is incredibly confused.
As far as the operational side of this,
I think you hit the high points here,
which is that, look, they are not talking about a long-term occupation.
We went into Iraq in 2003 with over 150,000 troops,
you know, to engage in that conflict.
We knew we were talking about a long-term operation.
We've got two marine expeditionary units.
We've got some elements of the 82nd Airborne.
out deployed now in theater for the Iran conflict.
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So the likely scenario, if there's not some miracle of negotiations, is that those elements will likely be used, as you pointed out, for these quick, specific targeted missions.
possibly seizing and destroying infrastructure on a handful of the islands that the Iranians used to help control the strait.
I don't think we're talking about any sort of long-term occupation of Card Island.
That would be a real problem.
And politically, I think the White House certainly is smart enough to understand that nobody is in the mood for a long-term occupation here.
What it looks to me like is the Iranians, whoever they may be in charge, I don't even know if there is anybody in charge, want to wear us down economically and believe that the U.S. press, which is true, is against the action.
And then that will drive public opinion about President Trump down and maybe ignite inflation here.
and then worldwide, we already saw Europe not supporting the action at all.
And then Iran's hoping that China and Russia will come in on their side.
So it's a waiting game for them.
The longer this lasts, the better it is for Iran, correct?
Yes. And I think the one part of this that was clear at the beginning of this
conflict was that it would come down to the Strait of Hormuz.
the Iranian regime has used that before as a weapon.
They've always threatened it as a weapon.
And so it was clear that they had no other leverage really to speak of in terms of influencing the international community.
So of course it was always going to come down to them creating the chaos and attempting to blockade and effect the strait and doing what is now currently happening, right?
You know, paying a lot more at the pump as far as the voters in the U.S. and the EU are concerned.
So, yeah, that was a given.
The Russians and Chinese, you know what, they are helping.
I think there's almost no possibility that they're not providing targeting data in terms of satellite imagery,
assistance on the intelligence side in terms of movement of U.S. personnel and assets.
The Iranians have had a quick series of strikes, the Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi,
and, you know, targeted and destroyed some aircraft, injured a dozen U.S. service members.
And that ability was enabled, you know, almost, I would put my salary on it by the Chinese or Russian or both assistance in terms of that targeting to make their strikes more lethal.
But they don't have many weapons left, I understand, in Iran.
I mean, we've downgraded them to the sense of day.
their ordinance is very low. Is that true?
Well, yes, we've degraded their military capabilities significantly.
Their stockpiles of missiles, their launchers.
And look, that was, you know, from the Israeli perspective,
the missile program was more of a threat in the short and midterm than the nuclear program.
So from a metric, from an operational metric, if you look and say, are we winning this thing?
Can we declare victory?
Well, yes, from an operational perspective, we can't.
because we have had significant success in degrading their abilities,
and also their manufacturing facilities for these munitions.
So from that metric, yes, from the metric of it,
if you went into this and said, well, we want a better government in Iran
for the betterment of the Iranian people and peace and stability in the region,
which frankly all the regional actors, Saudis and others would like to see,
then that's a little bit mixed.
That's not quite the victory.
Yeah, we haven't seen that.
Do you believe that Iranians are close to enriching enough uranium to build the bomb?
Do you believe that?
Yeah, I believe, look, once you're at 60%, and by all accounts, by a lot of different measures,
they were stockpiling 60% enriched uranium.
There is no civilian or peaceful need for anything really above 5%.
So if that's true, and Lindsay Graham on my podcast absolutely walked us through that,
Why wouldn't Europe then be on our side saying we just can't afford to have a theocracy that hates infidels be able to build a low-level bomb that could blow up Paris?
Why wouldn't the European countries support us?
Well, I think in part for the same reason, the Gulf states wanted just stability and no issues, and they want to just keep kicking the candle on the road.
Now, I know the RRU.
It's right there.
Look, every administration in the U.S. has kicked this can down the road, right?
Just thinking, okay, we'll put it on somebody else's plate.
And so I think there was a strong tendency in the EU and in the Gulf states to say,
you know, we get it.
We don't like the Iranian regime.
We don't want it.
We understand there's a threat here.
But, you know, let somebody else deal with it.
Yeah, but somebody else in four weeks.
I mean, we were talking about a very short period of time.
where these, the uranium could be, could be melded into a bomb.
See, I don't, I don't get it in the sense that,
and I'm going to deal with the Pope in a few minutes.
All right, so yeah, nobody likes this, and this is wrong.
Nobody wants people to die,
but when you have a potential where 10,000 more people would die,
aren't you, you know, morally compelled to deal?
with that rather than look the other way as millions of Americans are doing, millions,
and almost all of the NATO countries are doing.
They just don't want to get involved.
Right, they don't want to get involved.
They want somebody else to deal with it.
And in this case, the U.S.
They don't want us to deal with it.
Where are somebody else?
They don't want us to deal with it.
Yeah, there's good reporting that said, you know, MBS and the Saudis have been pushing the White
House to continue the fight, right?
There's very few, though, and that's an economic-based thing.
Last question for you.
So looking ahead, President Trump's got to worry about midterm elections, or he loses an enormous amount of power if the Democrats take control of Congress.
And how big a factor is that going to be?
And again, the Iranians know that in his trying to – to –
at least come to some conclusion here.
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
The Iranians look, particularly the political side of that, right?
You've got the politicians, you've got the the the theocracy, you've got the Mullahs,
and you've got the military, the IRGC primarily.
Frankly, the IRGC has cemented their position as the top dog within Iran at this point.
But those elements are sophisticated enough to have read the tea leaves here.
They understand that politics drive everything in Washington.
So you're absolutely right, which is why when that gas price rises and you're spending over $100 to fill up your truck, right?
Or people start hearing this boots on the ground concept, which immediately leads people to think, oh, we're talking long-term occupation.
There's a potential for the Republicans to have their butts handed to them in the midterm election.
The White House knows that.
And so I think that's why we're seeing these mixed messages about, well, we've got these negotiations going on.
We're having some productive talks.
But if they don't work, we're going to have, you know, we're going to obliterate.
the infrastructure, I think that's why you're seeing the White House work hard to try to get
this message out that they are having discussions because they're trying to keep that narrow
off of mind that this is not going to be a long-term conflict.
I don't know if the Iranians are going to do it.
I wish I did.
Mr. Baker, thanks very much.
We appreciate it.
Thank you, Bill.
The Pope.
So, you know, I'm a loyal Catholic and I respect the people.
The Pope, I wrote a message of the day tomorrow on Bill O'Reilly.com.
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Just wake up, punch up Bill O'Reilly.com, and it'll be there.
I think the Pope's a good man.
But I'm very confused about his leadership of my church.
Roll of tape.
Brothers and sisters, this is our God.
Jesus, King of Peace who rejects war, whom no one can use justify war.
He does not listen to the prayers of those who,
wage war but rejects them saying even though you make many prayers I will not listen
your hands are full of blood okay but whose hands are full of blood
the Iranians have killed tens of thousands of their own people hundreds of
thousands over the years when you look at Hamas Hezbollah the Houdis
all the terror that Iran has funded and armed and the nuke threat
So who's got blood on their hands, Your Holiness?
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Let's go to the airport, some relief,
and it looks like the TSA workers
are going to start getting paid today.
That's thanks to President Trump,
because the senators and the congresspeople
took off for two weeks without solving this.
they're great aren't they see you meanwhile people wait but three hours to get on a plane
and so Trump said no we're going to pay them find a money and that should alleviate things
I don't know how quickly nobody does in LaGuardia which is I don't know 15 miles from my house
LaGuardia in New York 90 minutes this morning and checked it waiting to get through security
So at least something's being done there.
We went over and over and over this.
Democratic Party put forth very unrealistic terms to pay the TSA workers and Republicans.
So we can't do this because you want to ice ice.
Ice, ice baby.
You don't want any enforcement.
And that's absolutely true, 100% true.
Democratic Party is not want any enforcement.
enforcement on people here illegally.
I could run down the how many delays and all that, but you know what the story is.
Okay.
So in New York City, a guy named Judge Michael Hartifilius, Queens Criminal Court, releases a guy.
who allegedly assaulted a first responder, that means a cop or a fireman, a fireperson.
Okay.
So the guy was arrested, and his name is Leon.
Okay.
David Leon, Ecuadorian.
He's a member of the Latin King's gang.
He's got priors.
Okay.
One of them is a child neglect and all of that.
The judge releases him, releases him into the wind.
Ice grabbed him.
Ice got tipped, I'm sure, by NYPD.
And they were waiting for him when he got, the judge let him out of the courtroom.
It shows you what Mamdani and his crew, that I didn't want to hold him.
All I had to do was hold him until ICE showed up.
No, we're going to let him go so he can commit more crimes.
This is so appalling to me.
It's so disgraceful.
I don't have the words.
On January 19, 2025, okay, a little more than a year ago.
Katie Abraham, Glenview, Illinois, is killed by a drunk driver.
Julio Cuchel Ball, Guatemalan, here illegally.
20 years old, she's killed.
And the guy shouldn't have been here, running around, and all of that.
Her father, last week, testified before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution,
and Joe Abraham joins us now from Illinois.
Mr. Abraham, obviously, everybody watching.
this broadcast and most people in this country feel very deeply, very sympathetically about what
happened to your 20-year-old daughter. What did you tell the subcommittee? What was the headline
that you brought in? So if you just nail it to a headline, this is a preventable tragedy,
another preventable victim, that if we had some type of rational policies would have been avoided.
That's really what it comes down to is we don't have to be radical and extreme in everything we do.
So take an example.
They're saying, oh, this is extreme and radical, what ICE is doing?
But what happened during the Biden and New Yorkist years?
Was that not extreme and radical?
It seems to me that you can't have it both ways.
When you delivered the message that sanctuary cities that protect these aliens, as we just mentioned in New York,
lead to more horror and violence and devastation families like yours.
Were you watching the reaction of the people on a subcommittee?
Do you feel they were sympathetic to you, these politicians?
I would say for the most part they were not.
So the Republican side seemed to be, you know, I'm sort of on board, right?
On the Democratic side, I'm just going to focus on my senator.
Senator Dick Durbin was sitting there.
And Bill, and this has really been about 14 months.
Haven't heard a word from Governor Pritzker, Senator Durbin, Senator Duckworth, nothing.
So, yeah, our top state leaders ignored this whole thing.
So as I was telling Katie's story, Senator Durbin was disinterested very clearly.
Give me an example of that.
Now, he made a statement about the guy was arrested for shoplifting in the past,
and they let him out so he could run around and kill your daughter.
But how did you pick up that Durbin himself was not interested?
Well, Durbin was talking about Sheridan Gorman,
about the guy being picked up for a shoplifting.
That was her killer.
My killer was Julio Cucobol, who was a Guatemala National using
a Mexican national alias in Illinois, and by the way, not a moral judgment, but he had HIV
and he had HIV within our communities. Was he as reckless with his HIV as he was behind the wheel?
He had multiple partners, I suspect he was just as reckless. But why I say Senator Durbin was not
interested in Katie's story, my story, is not once did he make eye contact with me, not once did he
addressed me, not once did he acknowledge Katie's story, my story, is not once did he make eye contact with me, not once did he
acknowledge Katie's life or death.
He was, again, very disinterested as I was
laid out of case of my story. Did he ask you any questions?
Did he ask you any questions? No, no.
Not one. Look at me. Not one word to me. Didn't even look at me.
No. No.
And you ascribe that to what? He's playing to his far left base?
You know, you tell me, Bill, what type of humanity
does that show?
For example, there were Democratic senators
that took the time to acknowledge Katie's life.
I don't agree with them in policy.
We actually spoke with some of them after the hearing.
Now with Senator Durbin, he left.
But some of the other Democratic senators we spoke to,
we don't have to agree on everything.
I don't agree with their policies.
But they showed some humanity
and they showed some compassion.
and it's okay that we disagree on things.
We were able to talk through some of that.
Did they say anything that they were going to do anything about it?
Were they encouraging in that regard?
I got the sense that we just disagreed.
I don't think the Democratic side will do anything.
At the end of the day, I think they will continue to ignore
and try to erase sort of these inconvenient stories.
Certainly here in Illinois, they've tried to do.
that along with a complicit media.
That is, you know, they're sort of tethered to J.B. Pritzker for the access and for his money.
They certainly are not interested in our stories.
Did the media, the local media in Illinois, did they cover Katie's story?
Yeah, I think when it initially happened, you had some coverage there.
I'm not saying they didn't cover it.
They covered it more of a personal story.
They did not talk about the radical policies.
there are no guardrails, how our compassionate leaders they talk about failed not only Katie,
but they failed Julio Cucca Bull.
He in court said he's illiterate English, Spanish, doesn't know anything.
Can't read or write it.
He speaks some Kai Chi language out of the mountainous regions of Guatemala.
Did they help him with employment, language, his HIV health screening?
Illinois did nothing.
They left him in the state aimlessly to wander, do what he wants, use this state as a
playground and an ATM machine, they did nothing to help them. They are not compassionate,
caring people. They're just not. And I don't care how many times you can go out there and say it.
To me, your actions are speaking louder than your words. You have showed zero compassion
toward Katie, and you didn't help this guy either. And both one's in the grave and one's in prison,
hopefully for decades. Final question. Did you, are you losing faith in your country?
because there is a political party that by and large supports no action against undocumented people who may be dangerous?
Are you losing faith in America?
Well, I'll promise you this, unless something changes.
I mean, I've lost faith in Illinois, for sure.
So I'm in this position where I've got to decide, do I stay in Illinois my lifelong home,
or do I have to find a more rational,
reasonable place to live?
I think it's unfortunate and disheartening
that I have to try to make that decision,
but this state should not be run
as a one-party state.
It's really, you know, they have that term.
It's not broken.
They fixed it.
And I've always known Illinois,
lived here all my life, Cook County,
the most corrupt state and county,
I think, in the country.
But they've always had some guardrails
like the old school guys had guards.
If kids were dying, they were going to do something.
But, you know, this new regime now, they don't care whose kids are dying as long as, and let me, again, as a lifelong Illinois and Cook County residents, I suspect warm bodies have some ballots tied to them.
They also need congressional apportionment.
This is all political power.
Katie died on the altar of the state leader's political power, period.
It doesn't explain, it wouldn't explain how J.B. Pritzker runs to Minnesota.
to honor two people that put themselves in a very precarious position versus Katie, who he's never said her name,
was just an innocent victim in his streets of Urban Illinois in the flagship college town of Illinois.
Well, Mr. Abraham, you're doing right by your daughter.
You can take that as solace.
I know you can't.
It'll never override the pain that you and your family have gone through, but you're a good dad.
and be doing what you should do.
And it's disheartening.
That's the only word you can use.
And I think Prist is the worst governor
in a country have said it many times.
He doesn't care about anybody here, Bill.
He does not care about the citizens of this state.
He's an awful human being.
He absolutely is.
All right, Mr. Abraham, if there's anything we can do
for you and your family, you let us know, okay?
Thanks so much.
Appreciate you, Bill.
Sure.
Back with a final thought in a moment.
Okay, final thought of the day.
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