Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - NO SPIN INTERVIEW: Vivek Ramaswamy

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Bill talks with former GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy about the election and our culture.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Vivek Ramoswamy, he's got a new book out tomorrow, The Truths, the Future of America First. And, you know, I don't have to give you a long bio on him. If Trump's elected, he will get a cabinet position. I am almost 100% on that. Okay, so first of all, I'm going to get to your book, but in my little run-up here, anything you object to, was I over-the-top in any way? No, I mean, I think you explored a lot of issues with nuance and the polling side of things. It's worth noting one trend, Bill, just to see, as I know you mentioned, the NBC polls, they pulled more women than men. The only thing I'd add is, in the last several election cycles, you have seen greater turnout for women relative to men as well.

That's different from what it was 50 years ago. So I'm just a big fan on our side of not being complacent. I do think complacency is one of the big risks we could have heading into this election. It's what happened in 2022. We didn't have a red wave in 2022. And I'm worried we're at risk of something similar in 2024 unless we actually step up and articulate our own vision of who we are and what we actually stand for.

And that's actually the main call to action in the book that I just wrote and releasing as well. The book is preaching to the choir on a traditional conservative viewpoint, which of course is nothing wrong with that. Did you get any bookings on ABC? NBC or CBS? Did any of them invite you? I'm going to be on CNN tomorrow morning. And actually one of the things

I'm trying. I got on CNN. CBS? NBC or ABC? No. It's a very interesting media landscape. What I am trying to do, Bill, it's totally. One of the things I'm trying to do is I'm going to college campuses because I care about not just preaching to the choir.

I actually care about at least presenting the right arguments to people who think they're on the other side. But actually when they're challenged to engage, in open debate may actually have a very different view than they thought they did. And that's a good thing. Just be careful. College campus is a good place to do that. Don't go to Columbia. I mean, you know, you know where to go. But the point of the matter is,

two points I want to make to you. The polling services know that Kamala Harris is going to get the majority of female votes in this country. So therefore, very quietly, they're polling more women than men to skew the poll results. They know it. I know it. And then, of course, my viewers and listeners know it now. The second thing is, CBS, NBC, and ABC, huge conglomerates blackout, refuse to book any non-liberal author. My book, as you know, is opening number one this coming Sunday on the New York Times bestsellers. Far in a way, the best-selling nonfiction book in the world at this point. Okay. I also bring ratings to wherever I go, all right? There's no business decision that would exclude me. It's all ideology. And if somebody like you, who's deeply involved in a Trump campaign, who obviously campaigned to be president himself, all right, should be a natural booking on the today show, Good Morning America, on all of the late night shows. And you can't. And you can't

can't get in. I'm telling you, if you guys win the Trump, Trump, you got to take a look at this because I'm going back to Teddy Roosevelt with the monopoly situation here. This is wrong. But anyway, let's get to your book. You know, it's remarkable. Remarkable is we have to restore that culture of open debate in this country and we can't have it. I want all views represented. I wouldn't want a conservative administration working with conservative media companies through the back door to make sure that the only views that were heard were. You're not. You're in my views. That's right. America's built on diversity of thought. It's actually part of what this whole book is about Bill is I want to give everyday conservatives to not forget the

media. How do we do it an ordinary life? The goal of this book is to arm conservatives but people on our side to actually talk to their friends. And yes, I do still use the word friends on the left, be they family or friends at the dinner table, but to have enough courage to be armed with the facts and the arguments on the touchiest questions from climate change. to the transgender debate, to racial agendas. How do you talk about the touchy issues where you may face risk of cancellation, but to do it with such precision

that nobody's going to be able to penalize you for what you said, but to the contrary, we might actually win over some hearts and minds, as I believe I've had the chance to do over the last year. That's what this book is about, it's allowing every American to be able to do the same thing. So I got two contentions with you.

Sure. So I opened a book in a first chapter, is God is real. Okay, I believe that. I sit through boring sermons every Sunday in Catholic Church. I mean, it's kind of, you know, me, you know, me. Come on, you can do better than that. I believe God is real, but I believe what I want to believe. Now, I wrote killing Jesus, and I know what happened there. But you're stating for a fact that God is real, and you're you know that a large portion of population is going to say, no, he's not. There's no proof of that. How do you answer that?

Yeah, so there's a few things I do in that chapter. The first thing I make clear is this is not the job of the government to enforce. But the question is, is our culture worse off because of the widespread of secular atheism as a new kind of religion in the country? Yes, it is. And the truth of the matter is we don't have hostility towards atheists in this country today. But what we do have is increasing hostility to persons of faith, limiting their religious liberty. My view, Bill, I don't know if you show this to do, but my view is, I don't care if you want to get married, who you want to marry, the government should not stand in your way as long as, you know, they're not forcing you know what they're not forcing you know what they're not forcing people who don't want to participate in functions that run against their religious convictions. Sure. So one of the points I make in that check, we need to restore religious liberty.

And part of especially amongst young people, what's missing is we do have this missing vacuum in the heart of a generation who wants to believe in something bigger than themselves, yet they can't even answer what it means to be an American or whether or not they believe in a higher power. Yeah, they know nothing about theology, and that's a parental perinnal dereliction. The second thing that caught my attention was global warming is not real. But it is real. I mean, you know it is because you can scientifically. I didn't say that quite. Yeah, I didn't say that quite. It's close.

I said the climate change agenda is a hoax, is what I said in there. But it's not going to be taken that way. When I was reading it, I went, is he a climate denier? Now, I just want to tell you how I know. So I went to Alaska, I went to Glacier Bay, one of those beautiful places on Earth. Okay. And the guys are taking me out like they always do whenever I go anywhere. People work there in there.

And I said, well, what's the situation? You go, well, we lost about 30, 35% of the glacier because the temperatures are warmer. And where I live on the ocean, I can see that the change in what has happened here. So global warming is real. Now, the political agenda attached to it, you're absolutely correct. So they're trying to use. This is great issue. Trying to use climate change to impose socialism.

That's what they're trying to do. Go. So one thing on the science, though, and this is where I. really aim to break this down in the book, and I hope people benefit from it. I ask the question, let's break this down into four questions. One is, are global surface temperatures going up? Yes, they are. The second question is, are we sure that is due to man-made causes? It appears to be highly correlated. Are we sure it's due to increased carbon dioxide? There we have less certainty. There's only 0.04% of the atmosphere that's carbon dioxide today, which is a relative low over the

course of the history of the earth, it's almost at an all-time low. Then you ask the question that nobody asks, Bill, but this is the one that really matters and I hit hard in the book. Are we sure that increasing surface temperatures by a little bit is necessarily a bad thing for human beings? And actually, the counterintuitive thing we learned through a lot of the facts I lay out in the book is actually there are some positive effects of slightly increasing global surface temperatures. Here's one. It's a fact that eight times as many people die of cold temperatures rather than warm ones. So way more people to have cold temperatures than warm ones. A slight increase in global surface temperatures actually means fewer temperature-related deaths.

Here's another fact. The Earth is more covered by green surface area, by plants, today than it was a century ago, because plants grow in not only warmer climates, but carbon dioxide released in the atmosphere is actually plant food. Plants actually take that back up, creating what's called a greening effect on the planet. The funny thing many people watching your program may remember is back in the 1970s, the thing that climate scientists worried about was not global warming. Back then, they worried about a global ice age because more people have actually died of ice ages in human history than have ever died of warming. And so the question is against the backdrop of, are there going to be some negatives to surface temperatures going up?

Yes. But are there also some positives? The answer, also there are there. is yes. It is far from clear, let alone certain that that net effect is actually net negative. And for that, we're asked to change our entire modern way of life, by the way, only in the West, without asking places like China to do the same thing. That's why I said the climate change agenda is a hope. It's very provocative and thought-provoking. And that's the bottom line on your book. So the book comes out tomorrow. It's called Truths, the Future of America First. And even even if you don't subscribe to Mr. Ramoswami's point of view, it's a very provocative book. So I'll get you thinking about a number of situations because each chapter is a different subject.

It's not just a diatribe of conservative thought. So anyway, Vivek, thank you for helping us out. We appreciate it. If you ever got anything on your mind, you just let us know what you put you right back on, all right? Good luck with the book. Tell me what your audience thinks of the book, and we'll come back to talk about it. Thank you, Bill. Appreciate it.