Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News Special: Culture Battles

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

In this No Spin News Special, Bill talks with Eric Bolling, Jose Antonio Vargas, and Stephen A. Smith about the ongoing battles shaping America’s cultural landscape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So, Boling, are you for or against the bombing? Well, just yes or no? Yes, I am for or against the bombing. Let me explain. If I may, I was against the bombing because I hate the idea of an American pilot in harm's way. Okay, so you, at first you were against it. Mm-hmm. And I mean further explained that I was against it because we had complete, or not we, I'm sorry, I correct myself because Trump did the same thing prior to the bombing.

Israel had complete control of the airspace over Tehran, over the whole country of Iran. They were getting things done. I loved what they were doing. They were relentless. People were saying, okay, you know, you made your point in Israel. No, no, no. They were going to finish the job. Now, did they have the 200 mile into the side of the mountain bunker bus?

They didn't at the time. And then the my side or my brain, this side of my brain would say, okay, well, sell it to them. Sell Israel, the bunker buster bomb. Sell them in the mop, MOP. Train a pilot. I don't care if it takes a month. Train the pilot, how to fly it. How's this?

Get a dual citizen, an Israeli-American pilot to fly it over, drop the bomb. You wouldn't have our fingerprints on. None of that, none of that would ever happen in any way at all. because we are the only people in the world that have that technology. We're going to hand it off to Israel, okay? And there's not going to be any pilots that are not under the supervision or the Pentagon. That's never, ever going to happen. Now that the bombing has happened.

Yes, yes. Okay? Now I look back at so far and we're, what, 36 hours out, and it looks like a surgical strike that was precision. As Pete Hags, it tells us, it obliterated the nuclear capabilities. We all know that. Are you for it or against it now? If it goes no further, Bill, I'm absolutely for it. And I think it's going to go no further because what Trump said this morning before

getting on Air Force One, Marine One, and saying Israel and Iran, they don't know what the F they're doing. They use the word. And I think he told the world, that was one and down and we're done. And it was, it was magical. It was almost spiritual. I think back to the day, Trump was shot in the. year in Butler, Pennsylvania bill, just bear with me one second. One inch either way. Now, I'm not just saying one inch towards his head would have killed the would-be next president, but one inch

away from his year. And it wouldn't, yes, it would have been an assassination attempt, it wouldn't have the massive implications it does. But those of, if you believe in God, if you believe in a higher power, if you believe in the spirit, whatever you believe in, there's a reason he got hit in the ear and not taken out and not missed them completely. And this may be the reason, because what he did in the last 36 hours made the world a safe place. Okay. So now you've evolved on that. But you're still essentially an isolationist. And you don't support U.S. funding Zelensky in Ukraine. Or am I wrong on that? No, you're 100% right. You're 100%. You don't want any money going to Ukraine, right? Correct. Okay. So if we pull out back and Putin takes the whole country, which is what he wants to do, then you know China goes to Taiwan,

takes that. Is that okay with you? I mean, is it okay? I think a smart president would beef up our chip capacity, chip producing capacity in the United States, because frankly, Taiwan, the best interest to us in Taiwan is their ability to produce Silicon Valley type chips. If we can up our game with Nvidia and the other chip makers, even Taiwan semiconductor for that matter, I think it's none of our business of China. So you let, you let Taiwan go, you let Ukraine go. Why would they stop then? Why wouldn't Putin then go to Moldova?

Why wouldn't China then move into South Korea and help the nut in North Korea destabilize that? So in isolation is basically saying, look. Do we know that that's, that's the, I think Putin may have eyes on the prize with further other countries in Europe? There's no guarantee of anything other than my eyewitness report when I was in China. And I can tell you the 100% certainty, if Putin's allowed to take

over Ukraine, then China will march into Taiwan. That's what will happen, 100%. So if you're okay with that. How will that affect you, Bill O'Reilly? How it will affect is it causes chaos in the world. It destabilizes the entire world when you have two, when you have two, it's a crazy world. hey, when you have two totalitarian regimes expanding and taking over foreign countries, invading and taking over, you do not have a safe world. You cannot hide in Idaho. And worldwide economy will just be battered. And you think it's bad now the conflicts? Where do you see the chaos that those totalitarian nations will cause, if not restrained? And this is history. Street bowling. And you can't argue history with me because I'll, you know, I'll dissolve you into

pudding. But it's history, all right? Isolationism has never worked, particularly in a society now that's intertwined planet wise. I don't necessarily think of a total isolationist. I'm a anti-war, America-first human being. But America is not going to be first. China will be first. China will be first. We still are a part of NATO. And I've never said remove us. But you don't want military action. Well, if you really don't want Putin to take Ukraine, put them in NATO. And then you've opened yourself a whole whole nuclear wars. Put Putin's not going to go into NATO. Put Ukraine in NATO. Put Ukraine in NATO, allow Ukraine to enter NATO. That would that would then, that would give the justification. If you allowed Ukraine into NATO, that would heighten Putin's justification to the

Russian people, to the only people that can stop them at this point. All right, so now you have, you're an isolationist, Bannon is, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson is. How big do you think that constituency is within the Republican Party, the isolationist movement? How big is it? I think it was huge until Trump decided to go forth with this. Like I think a lot of we, many of us, I call Steve Bannon, the true north of the original gangster maga crew he was the original don of that and i think

until trump actually went forward in in iran with a bombing that that split people then they put people like tucker um i think tucker was more more the hardliner against it and steve and and the did you know that fast growing trees is the biggest online nursery in the u.s. thousands of plants more than two million happy customers. They have everything your yard needs, fruit trees, privacy trees, shrubs, more. Whatever plants you are interested in fast-growing trees will deliver your dream yard right to your door. They're alive and thrive, guarantee. Ensures your plants arrive happy and healthy. And this fall, they have the best deals, up to half off selected plants. Plus, my listeners get 15% off the first purchase with code bill at checkout.

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50-50 split? Maybe 60-40 in favor of what Trump did, maybe 70-30 in favor of... So you don't know. Because I don't know either. I mean, I suspect that most Republicans support Trump in this action. Now, if it goes south and all of these other things happen, unintended consequences, which Iran is too weak to really make anything happen. Let's say something crazy did happen. Then you would get more people would more would come over to the isolationist movement. All right, last word. I mean, they're too weak to do anything aggressive,

but they're not too weak to, you know, to fortify and finance their sleeper cells and their Houthis and their Hamas and their Hamas and always going to have them. And attack us internally on a smaller basis, which... But that's not because of the bombing. They were already here. They just made a big bus. They just made a big bus in Connecticut.

These people were here... Of the 2 million Iranians who are in this country, they caught 11, which is great. Biden let them all in. He doesn't even want ice around. Biden let them all in. So they're already here. They don't need an excuse, okay? They're here, and they're not here to get a job at 7-Eleven.

Last question for you. The final word on this isn't going to be until Trump leaves office, okay? Because it's not like Iran. They may go away. The army may overthrow them all, so let's hope. But Putin, he's psychotic. I mean, you're reading my book now, I know, Confronting Evil. And when you see how psychotic that man is, that we need a strong leader.

And there have been accusations that Trump is too soft about Putin. There have been accusations that he's too soft on him. So we're never going to have a peaceful world, last word. I 100% agree. By the way, your book is phenomenal. This is the best book. Brandon. I've read, I just started, I received it yesterday. I started paging through it last and I started reading it. I don't want to just have a little bit of an idea what it was about it's gripping.

It's really, it's, it's your best work so far. Um, with the maybe the exception of you throwing J.P. Morgan and, uh, and, and Rockettler into the mix with the evil, with the evil people. They are evil. But we'll get back. We can talk about that another time. But it was fascinating how you take people from this man won't be alive at the end of day or tomorrow and then you explain why and then you go back to the roots of the evil that's causing so much of the evil in the world it's fantastic book um where are we going from here uh i i would say mag needs to needs to get get theirself together again figure it out um and again hopefully it's done hopefully we're finished hopefully nobody wants give give nukes to iran or hopefully china doesn't give nukes to they're not going to give nukes something like that may escalate it and that would

That would be bad. But I think right now Donald Trump has proven to the world that you don't dispute Donald Trump. I dispute his ideas on tariffs. And so far I'm wrong. I didn't think we should attack Iran. As of, you know, this day right now, today. All right. Probably wrong. We're going to the end of the. And I hope I'm wrong forever. So you and I don't see this eye to eye, Mr. Vargas. But we do have some common ground. I believe that Congress should. make it easier for foreign nationals to work in this country. They have to have a clean sheet. They have to have no crime. They have to be responsible people. They probably have to put up some kind of collateral to get in here.

All that can be done. But I do not agree with you that the immigration process is that difficult. And I'll cite the stats. Okay. So there are 4 million legal Filipino immigrants in this country right now, at least that stat is three years old, so you got probably about five or six million. Population in Philippines, 117 million. So we'd be pretty generous to the islands. The last five years have been about a million new green cards. I think that should be tripled to three million. Okay.

And there are 400, there are four million new U.S. citizens in five years. So you say that they don't understand. Well, four million do. Any reply to those stats? Well, first of all, thank you for having me. Second of all, I do think we have more in common than you think. And I think a lot of it has to do with what shared facts we have. Thank you for citing all those statistics. Actually, let me give you a little bit more statistics. So estimated 5 million Filipinos, about 1.4 million of that in California, where I grew up since 1993,

There are actually more Filipinos in California than there are people in New Hampshire, Delaware, and Rhode Island. Right. That's how big the Filipino population in this country has gotten. And to your point, I'm grateful that the United States has been generous to the Philippines. And I think a lot of that also has to do it. You know, the Philippines was a property of the United States. We were actually the first country that became a part of the American Empire. in 1898 after the Spanish-American War.

So we have a long history together, right? So the Philippines was a colony of Spain for 350 years, and then the Americans came for almost 50 years. That's why apparently when you go to the Philippines, where I haven't been since I was 12, the Philippines is the most Americanized of all the Asian countries. So I just wanted to point that out. Now, to address your question,

and I've been thinking a lot about this since we just celebrated July 4th weekend. Apparently, during the Founding Fathers era, when the 13 colonies declared independence from the British Empire, there were 2.5 million people in the colonies. Right now in this country, and I don't know if I believe these estimates, I don't know, Bill, if you do, estimates say that we have 12 million undocumented people in this country. I think there's more than 12 million. I don't really, I don't believe that number.

I want to, look, I want to advance your belief system. Now, you're an accomplished man, okay? You won a Pulitzer Prize working for the Washington Post. You've contributed to this country. The name of your book is Dear America, Notes of an undocumented citizen, but you are dead. You have a visa. You're here.

Nobody's going to kick your door and grab you at this point. But it's been a struggle, and it's been a struggle that's unfair. to you because you were a people smuggler brought you here when you were 12. Your family wanted that to happen. Yeah. This is not your fault. You had no... I had no...

But Bill, to your point, it took me 31 years. I have what's called an old visa, right? So I had to leave the country, this country. To get the visa. But I want to go all the way through that. What I'm trying to say to you and to the audience is there are ways to do it. It's not easy. But nothing worthwhile is easy.

You did it. Millions of other foreign nationals have come here legally. The people who come here illegally, okay? They have no right to feel entitled to be here. Now, I'm not saying they should all be mass deported. I'm not. I want to get you taken a few things. Joe Biden opened the border, okay?

Did you support that? When you say open the border meaning what? You mean what? Come on, you know what I mean, Jose, don't give me any of this. You know exactly what I mean. He opened the border, at least 12 million people poured across it, many of whom asked for asylum, not in the legal way in the ports of entry. Did you support the Biden program or not?

Yes or no? No, no. What was your objection? My, okay, I'll pull objections. The 12 million people did not come through during Biden's era. They've been coming for decades. No, but at least 12 million did. At least 12, every estimate, it's 12 to 15 under Biden, poured in here, most of whom asked for asylum, violating American law because they didn't go to the port of entry.

That's the stat from the federal government. You want to quibble, it gets us nowhere. Yeah, so, it gets us nowhere. What objection did you have to the Biden thing? What was your objection to that Biden? My objection is, I think the fact that we don't have an orderly system, like what you just said a few minutes ago, there should be a process that people ought to follow to come to this country.

Okay. And I agree, we're on common graph. But what if they don't follow it? Come on. What if they don't? Well, Bill, it's a problem. We have the right to kick them out. Well, wait a second. Yes. Yes, we do. And however, that's why we have 12 million people in this country legally because there's no process for people to follow.

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I had to wait 31 years for this window of an opportunity to follow. Okay. I know, I know that. But do you know how many immigration attorneys there are in California? Oh, thousands. Thousands. Yes. And they're getting people to stay here.

by using our system of due process. So don't tell me there's no way that you can become a legalized citizen because there is. So, Bill, why are there 12 million undocumented people in the country then if there's a process for them to follow the legalized citizens?

Because they don't want to follow it or they don't have the money to follow it. One or the two. That, by the way, is I think, the biggest myth in journalism that we have to bring, that people don't want, are too lazy to follow a process.

Look at the dreamers. The dreamers in this country had to pay $500,000, about $800,000 of them or so, had to have to pay $500 so that this government doesn't deport them so that they can work legally. Okay, look, there's always going to be that kind of a thing. Trump is actually, he's actually sympathetic to the dreamers. But Jose, for you to come on here and say there's no process for foreign nationals to come here legally is simply not true. they advertise on television. The immigration attorneys are at there.

Come to me. I'll get you here. I'll get you there. It's a booming industry. Bill, how many immigrants are there in the country today? Do you know how many? Illegal immigrants or?

No, no. Immigrants in general. Overall, how many? How many million? Number it's 50 million, something like that? About 49 million. Of that 49 million, of that 49, this is according to the peer research,

center which is a non-partisan organization right within that 49 million 12 million are undocumented right those 12 again and you and i both know that just destroys your argument because you're saying there's no pathway and most of the people are are here legally no no no but wait please hear me out here the 12 million people live with that within 49 million people right there are people in that family like in my own family that could call lawyers and naturally themselves and actually adjust and change their status. I was one of those 12 million people that couldn't just do that. I had to wait 31 years for this very specific thing so that I could legalize myself.

Okay. I understand that and I'm sympathetic to it. And Congress should. It's Congress's fault. They could make new laws that impose order. But for the left to scream that we have. a Gestapo that we're throwing people out and this and we're cruel and that's just hype.

So last word. Go ahead. One thing that we must agree on, this may be an opportunity. If there was ever an opportunity, look, we've been talking about illegal immigration since I moved to this country in 1993, right? If there was ever an opportunity to actually fix this problem and come up with a solution, this would be it. All right.

You and I could probably come up with this problem, figure this out in two weeks, okay? But these pinheads in D.C. all have agendas, one side or the other. Yeah. I agree 100%. Okay, look, I'm a simple man, as you know. And I believe that this hip-hop stuff teaches disrespect and encourages it. Bad language. don't even wear no condoms, you know, all of that stuff.

And kids as young as what, 10, 11, 12, listen to this. Instead of me, listen to the Four Tops and the Temptations and Smokey Robinson and all these people, they're listening to this. And I think that the level of disrespect among younger people has risen because of this kind of stuff. Am I wrong? I'm in no position to say definitively, Bill, that you're wrong. Where I was pushing back on you is when you talked about hip hop as if hip hop are the originators of all of this. When we talk about disrespect, when we talk about some of the lyrics that are spewed, and I'm like, if you listen to rock music, have you listened to heavy metal music?

Have you listened to some of the stuff spanning decades? Have you seen people worship in the devil engaging in saint-tonism? It's preaching about violence and whatever. I mean, we've seen all of this in the past, and that had nothing to do with hip-hop. So when you came out on Cuomo show and you talked about hip-hop, it's one thing to say that you don't like it. But it was almost as if you isolated your opinion to that, as opposed to really embracing what really has been happening with the music industry,

with Hollywood, and some of the things that they've been prepared. and disseminating for decades, long even before hip-hop came along. That was my issue. But I don't do the... I don't do the justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior, and you're absolutely right. I mean, a lot of this rock stuff is garbage. But this hip-hop industry is directed at not just African-American children, but children,

many of whom are marginalized. They don't have people in the house, father in the house. Look, I wouldn't let my kids listen to... to Megan the Stallion and Flo Rilla or whatever's name. That could not come into my house. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're wrong if you're saying them.

I would say to you there's certain songs I'm not going to allow you to listen to. Like, for example, the artist that I grew up listening to, whether it was run DMC, it was KRS 1, it was Eric B and Rock Kim, public enemy, et cetera, et cetera. It's in this day and age, whether it's Eminem, it's Jay-Z, it's Nas who's been around forever along with a plethora of others. There are some songs I wouldn't allow my kids to listen to. There are other songs I don't mind. It all depends on a particular song and a particular lyrics that are being spewed as opposed to me denigrating an artist because a particular song. That's what I'm saying to you. Okay, but remember, the unbelievable amount

of African American children who are living without a father. It is a problem that, that this country has never seen at this level. You give those kids role models who are using the F word every two seconds, we've got tattoos all over them, who can't speak proper English, and you are saying that this is what is going to be imitated. Look, Willie Mays was my idol growing up, all right?

Couldn't have been a better idol for me than Willie Mays. This couldn't have been, all right? And he drove me to play baseball for 15 consecutive years. And then I went over to the turn on W.A.B.C. AM radio to listen to all of these black artists whose music was uplifting. That helped me. It didn't hurt me. Now, the role models, many of them, are hurting these kids. You've got to admit that. let me i'm not denying i'm not i have no problem admitting that i have no problem acknowledging that parents and it extends beyond the black community white his oh yeah absolutely matter i mean

everybody's complaining about everybody's complaining about it you're absolutely right i'm not trying i'm not here to say that you're wrong i just want you to contextualize things properly so we're talking about the subject right now bill and you can look at it that way you have every right to i'm not going to knock you for that reading playing learning Stellist lenses do more than just correct your child's vision. They slow down the progression of myopia. So your child can continue to discover all the world has to offer through their own eyes. Light the path to a brighter future with stellar lenses for myopia control.

Learn more at SLR.com. And ask your family eye care professional for SLR Stellist lenses at your child's next visit. But allow me to retort. Let's go into your wheelhouse for a second. Right now, we're looking at an unemployment rate in the United States of America that's hovering around 4 to 4.1%. In the black community, it's at 16%. Amongst young black males, particularly between the ages of 16 and 19, for example, I think I read the number at being at about 19.8%. I've often been on the air saying this, when white folks catch a cold, black folks catch pneumonia.

It's always worse for us. There's always an uphill battle to climb. So to get to your point, it makes it even. harder when other obstacles get in the way that we know would potentially derail, particularly somebody from an African-American community on the come-up looking for opportunities. But what happens? The music industry comes along, and they're talking to you about making money. And here's how we want you to make the money.

And so you have young minds that are being influenced, but most importantly are trying to get a leg up or trying to earn their stripes or trying to find a way to pay their bills and to take care of themselves and their family, et cetera, et cetera, that are, presented with these opportunities. So when you talk about a hip-hop industry, you might talk about the artists. And I might say somebody like Bill O'Reilly is informed enough to know. It extends far beyond that particular artist because those artists answer to somebody. Somebody makes those albums. They promote those albums. They market those albums. They disseminate that. Yeah, but the artist is creating it is creating the scenario that if you are a certain person, you can use that

language. The reason that the minority unemployment is higher is because of the presentation. If you're an African American in this country and you present yourself in a way the employer believes that is going to help the business, you'll get the job. Not always. No system. No system is perfect. But believe me, you have a just so good a chance to get that job. And you don't want to work for racist anyway, okay? Right. So, but if you go in and you can't speak English and you're going the F word every two minutes and you've got a tattoo of a panther on your neck,

there's a good chance you're not going to get the job. That is totally true, but that is not a vast majority of African Americans out in this world. And you have to take that into consideration as well. Now, you might look at some members of the hip-hop community and you might see them acting a certain way, which is unfortunate, and we don't hesitate to call them out for that. But we also see a lot of these hip-hop artists doing fantastic things within the community, within the world. Okay, but that doesn't justify. Look, Jay-Z sold crack.

All right? I have no respect for him. None. Zero. Well, he's, and he's a friend of mine. Okay. I'm sorry, I'm a truthful man. He sold crack. So am I. So am I. So am I. So I am I. So if he would come out and he would say, I was absolutely wrong. Don't use crack, all right? That was horrible. And I'm saying to you is you can do two things at once. You can admit exactly what Bill O'Reilly said. And then turn around and say, excuse me, this is what I had to do to survive because the opportunity.

I don't believe that for a second. Well, tell me, tell me someone, you don't believe that. No, because there are most African Americans don't sell crack. I understand that. But you're using a specific incident. I'm going to a macro perspective. There are an abundance of situations. involving males in the African-American community

where trying times present themselves and challenges present themselves. I was fortunate and blessed enough to have a mother and a father in the home, Bill. Yeah, me too. And that's why I feel terrible about the unsupervised children, not just African-Americans, but all of them

who get involved with this hip-hop, which is going to hurt them. Last question. Wouldn't it be better? Not simple of that, but okay. But wouldn't it be better for the world if Motown came back and all of the good songs that we still listen to 50, 60 years later, okay, dominated the music industry and not this other garbage. Wouldn't that be better? I think a lot of it exists now.

You've got a lot of beautiful artists out here. Have you ever listened to Joe? Have you ever listened to Akon? Have you ever listened to an abundance of other guys out there with some great music, some great albums out there, whatever. Everybody can't be Prince, Michael Jackson, The Temptations, The Four Tops. You forgot to mention the Osley Brothers.

Let's not forget about them, Teddy Pentegras, Luther Vantros. You had a whole bunch of artists that were absolutely fabulous. I got to stop you there. On Cuomo tonight, if we have time, you asked me about going to the Isley Brothers concert. Okay? I was the only white guy in there.

The only white guy. I remember you told me. I know you told me that. And I remember. And the crowd. But see, here's your problem. Here's your problem. You think you're loved because you, you know, Bill O'Reilly is right and he tells the truth.

That's not why you're respected and why you can walk anywhere, even when people disagree with you. Do you know what the real reason is, Bill? Tell me. Even if we think you're wrong, we know you mean what you say. You believe it. You feel it. We can go on and on about this particular conversation. I could have corrected you on a few things.

But I know that your foundation, the foundation of your belief has some merit and you're bold enough and brave enough to say it. Well, I appreciate the compliment. Rather than hide it behind some curtains. So that's where it comes from. But it ain't because we think you right all the time because we don't think you right all the time.

I don't want you to think I'm right. I just try to make an overwhelming case and that's what the three Americans is all about. That's why it's sweeping the country. You've got three separate guys who all have belief systems who throw it on out there, and then people can say, all right, that's been, that's it. Hey, Steve, then, we'll see you, uh, well, I think it's a one ingredient, though. You could be nicer.

You could be nice to Chris Paul. We'd be, you'd be, you'd be, that's something we missed it. You could be nice. You know, he doesn't deserve it. Okay, I mean, I tell you, he just doesn't deserve it. All right, I'll see you soon. Thanks for helping us, I appreciate it. To watch the full episodes of the No Spin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.

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