Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News Special: Tri-State Trio

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Bill O’Reilly sits down with Joe Piscopo, Stephen A. Smith, and Bo Dietl for a candid discussion on current events, politics, and issues affecting the Tri-State area. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So we don't do a lot of celebrity stuff here because I got so many more important things to do. But a friend of mine, Joe Piscobo, you know, I'm a Saturday Night Live guy and comedian, very talented guy. I've known him for decades, and Joe's a good guy. He's got a book out called The Memoirs of a Blue Collar Entertainer. Okay, and I want you to check it out. I read a book very, very entertaining. Now, Piscopo was on Saturday Night Live with Eddie Murphy. We're going to talk about that in a moment.

But he also does a radio program out of New Jersey, and he makes live appearances, and his big thing is Frank Sinatra. Roll it. Start spreading the news. I'm leaving today. I want to be a part of it. New York, New York. Anyway, Piscopal loves Frank.

I'm a little on, you know. But no doubt, Frank Sinatra, one of the best entertainers in the world. If you don't know them very well, because younger people don't. You know, you go to check it out. The guy was a stylist. Anyway, Piscopo nailed them and make some nice living, doing comedy and Sinatra. I talked to him yesterday, which is why you're going to see a change of outfit for me.

And the most important thing you know about Piscopo is he's a good guy, really. Joining us now from New Jersey is the aforementioned Joe Piscopo. Now, the reason I wanted to talk to you about your book, and I read the book, Memoirs of a Blue Collar Entertainer, is because your background and my background are almost identical, except for the fact that I am so much luckier to be Irish than Italian. That's the big difference. Now, we were raised in the same era, in the same environment of working class, ethnic homes, Catholic, lots of kids all over the place. Now, when I go back to my Levittown home, the people, the older people who are still there, they're looking at me and going, how come you're not in jail?

They don't, because I was such a ridiculous kid, they don't know how I succeeded. Is it the same for you? Yeah, it is. You know, and I smack myself every day. and great to see you bill my friend uh i tell you because i was a i got kicked out of school eight times eight times and i i almost made the record but henry bernartick got nine times and so he's ahead of me at west desic high school you know what was i thinking we had the best parents i had the best parents you know took care of me i was still a wise guy you know and yes i i always thought if

it wasn't from my parents i'd be working for some some guy with a vowel at the end of his name in Brooklyn. What am I going to tell you? I got out of line, but I don't know how I did it, but by the grace of God and my dear parents, Bill. It took me six years to become comfortable in front of the camera. I wasn't a natural performer, and I didn't know what I wanted to do in my early 20s. It wasn't like you. I was a high school teacher out of college, and then I said, you know, I'm pretty good writer, let me pursue that. Now, your big break was 1980. You show up on Saturday Night Live, not an easy gig to get because you're a coming off Chevy Chase, Belushi, Akroyd,

all of these legends, and they hire you. Then you team up with Eddie Murphy. Now, Murphy's a Long Island guy, and I'm going, Piscopo Murphy. What was it that struck that friendship? Yeah, it's a great question, Bill. And I could only tell you when I first met him, I was hired.

They bought me up to the 17th floor at NBC to meet this new kid that was coming in. And I knew Ritchie Tinkin and Bob Waxe had these managers, but I didn't know Eddie because I was at the Improvisation Comedy Club where I came up. That was Hell's Kitchen, 44th and 9th. There was Catcher Rising Star. That was a little more upscale.

And then there was a comic strip just coming in. These are the comedy clubs. Long Island may as well have been Idaho to us because we just knew Manhattan. So now I didn't know Eddie. I didn't even hear of Eddie. but as soon as they introduced me and they said this is Eddie Murphy and there was this young kid 19 years old and he's sitting down soon as you meet Eddie I think everybody felt that way but

I don't know what it was we just connected there were laughs there was comfort there was a comfort zone we were just very similar and we just connected right there right that second and then they asked us would you do a sketch Joe would you audition any for us like that so they took the word association sketch that chevy chase and richard prior did bill which was like you could never do it now it's where you know chibi and word and that kind of right oh my gosh and prior did it so now we're we got the suits in front of us and and i start to read the sketch eddie's doing the prior part of course i'm doing the chevy part and and and he just nailed it bill it was like and i went wow man and now at that point i worked with robin williams and rodney dangerfield and and andy coffman

and Robert Klein and everybody at the improvisation. I met everybody. This kid was like, I've never seen anything like it kind of thing. No race stuff between you, no black-white stuff? Yeah, no, no race stuff. It was just the script. We stuck with the script. No, no, I mean in person, though, once you got to know him, none of that?

Never even felt it. Never thought it. The only time it was about, that's why I don't understand. And if you go to Ebony and Ivory, it closes with. I am white, you were black, I am white, and who cares. We never saw color. I never saw color. I just never did.

That's good to hear. That's good. Just living in perfect harmony. We're talking salt and pepper, Sammy and Dean. Stevie and be a peachy king. You are white. You are black and the who cares. You're going back to SNL 50 over the weekend, a big show, three-hour show.

Is Eddie going to be there? Murphy's showing up? Because I know you're still friends, right? Yeah, when you see each other, absolutely. But I hear he's going to be there. He's going in. And 10 years ago, and I can't remember how I got the word, but I got the word that I was going to do. I did a little bit.

I'm not hearing anything now, so I'm kind of a spectator. They're doing a big concert, by the way, at Radio City on Friday. I think that's okay to talk about. And then a Sunday night is the three-hour, and everybody's going to be there. And I hear Eddie's going to be there. You never know, because it's going to be live as live could be, so you never know. But it's always good to see him. You know what's funny you do?

And I know you must have friends from a hundred years ago, and then you do one little look. You do one little sound. You do one little nuance. And then it, you know, cracks the other person up like that. Right. I remember. Yeah, and it's kind of fun like that. So I'm looking forward to it, but it's kind of like your high school reunion where you're kind of like, you know,

little tepid, little tepid, but, you know, I'm going to go back. I'm going to go back with respect and grateful. Hey, man, you know, with my politics, I'm lucky I got invited at all, Bill O'Reilly. Well, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody likes me, and I'm going to say, you don't have to say anything. Everybody likes Piscopo. I don't know. Anybody doesn't like you because you're a good guy, a good sense of humor.

You're not looking at top anybody. You don't have the jealousy thing going on. So everybody will be happy to see you. And my son, I went to a Yankee game with Piscoe a few years ago. My son was a little bit younger, obviously. And he still remembers that night. Because he knows, you know, the young kids now watch the tapes of you and Murphy and all those skits. They'll live on forever.

So he always asks about you because you wouldn't. nice to him, you know? I remember, like yesterday, you had the great seats. We were, we, we, we, we, well, I had great seats and I was behind you, man. I was very impressed with that. As it should be, as it should be. You know, I said, we were my buddy Mitchell Maudel and I snored off of Mitchell's seats and I look and there's O'Reilly man up there, but you know what I loved about you?

You're a great father. God bless you for that. I appreciate that. And so are you got you got four urchins and and so are you. Joining us now as a retired New York City police detective, Bo Dietl. You know him. He's a movie star now. He's then Godfather of Harlem. He play Genevice. Is that who you're playing now? You're some mob guy? Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver. through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this, get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax advantage, gold IRA.

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You got me wrong. I don't even know who I'm playing anymore. You don't even know. All right. So you're Lucchasey. All right. But in your real life, your Bodiedel, who had a very distinguished career in the NYPD, as did my grandfather.

I'm so outraged about this. I tell you, I can't get any angrier. Can you explain this to me? I just, it's just part of the patent bill that has happened. This is the George Floyd effect on and on with the demonstrations. Since 2020, when these pieces of garbage were able to demonstrate burn, assault, actual some murders involved, the prosecution. Everyone turned against the police, defund the police, defund the police.

Now you have, in New York state, because we have to start with the state, you have an assembly and you have a Senate that will not pass any kind of bills in support of the police. Then you have a city council here that has taken away every aspect of what the police officers can do. Now they also have this diaphragm law. When you're fighting with someone, if you're. get them into a headlock. That's illegal. Immediately when a cop gets someone in a headlock or gets on top of them, they file a suit against them. The charges are dropped. They testify against

the cop. Then you've got district attorneys. Like you just pointed out with this case, these officers were beat pretty bad. There were stitches involved and everything. That's why it's assault to a felony. And I'm outraged, Bill, listening to what you just said, that this is put off. That's the DAs and the damn judges, when they put these liberal judges in there, I mean, the judge is supposed to make a judgment call. When you've got animals like this, if they're going to assault the police officer the way they did, imagine what they'll do to a regular person.

You and be on children on the streets. Right. These people are career criminals anyway, and they know that, and they put them back on the street. But in order to counter this, Bo, you would have to have an organized police presence with demonstrations, with signs, with pressure, with the media, and you don't have anything.

Not one word. They have turned us down on every request to come in and condemn this whole case. They will not do it. Do you know why? No, I don't know why, but I'm going to tell you something. I was with Kaz Doctry, the Deputy May of Public Safety last night, I had dinner up and Campionola's ward them, and we had dinner. and this is one of the issues that he told me he wanted me to get back on.

And I promise you one thing. I told him I was going to be on your show. And I said, I want answers. Why? Now, when you go to the unions, you have a PBA, you have a DEA. I'm still a member of the DEA. But I'm going to reach out to the president of the PBA. And you are exactly right.

There should be demonstrations going on in front of that DA's office in the Bronx. This is an outrage. And I'm really, really sorry with you on this one, Bill. That's where I came from. But now it's not, it's a moral outrage. It's just wrong. It's indefensible. But there's more than that.

It demoralizes every single police officer in the city. Because they know they could be beaten. They could be next. And nothing is going to happen to them because of the Darcell Clarks of the world. but their own people aren't defending them. How can you ask people to put their lives on the line every day in a dangerous city like New York when they know nobody's got their back? That's why, Bill, more police officers in New York City are retiring than ever before.

They can't recruit people to come on to the New York City Police Department. And a lot of people don't know if they're doing their jobs completely legally, They still could be sued civilly. That's like the poor cop that has a little house out in Levittown paying his mortgage or her mortgage. And next thing is they get sued civilly and they take his house or her house away. And right now what's going on? They cannot bring people on the police department. And they're lowering their standards, Bill.

This is a craziness. Then we got some fool running for mayor that wants to defund the police department. And he's getting more votes than anybody. For our audience who doesn't live in New York City and doesn't really know how intense it is, describe when you were on the job, okay, and then now, how big a difference? Well, we had tremendous support. We had tremendous support from our unions, even the higher echelon of the police department. I was very active.

I made over 1,500 felons. a decoy cop 500 times I was mug, hospitalized 30 times stab shot and all that. When I got no fight with somebody and I had to do necessary force, let's not call it a beating, let's call it necessary force. I'm fighting so you don't get my gun. I punched him. I hit him with the hand radio. I did whatever I had to do to get him or her, not too many hers, but definitely get him restrained. And you know what? I said what I did and why I did it. And I was supported. I was the recipient of 40 civilian complaints. I'm very proud every one of them. And you know what? I was never founded on one of them because all I did was my job. And I told

the truth and that's it. I'm out there. And I'm with my partner. I'm fighting with a guy with a knife or a gun. I want to make sure my partner goes home safely and I go home safely. And I did what I had to do. Reasonable force. Today, now you got video cameras. What they do is After the cop gets punched, they take the video of the second part of the cop arresting him, not the original incident that occurred. And with the advent of these cell phones, that's a destruction to the police department also. Could you do the job today? Because I know you love being a detective.

I mean, you like the work and all of that. Could you do it today? No. And I think I would actually maybe break my son's arm if he wanted to become a New York City cop. I would not let him. Nobody I love will I let come on the police department. It's a disgrace of what it's like. But come and I feel horrible.

Now you have more than 55, 60% of the police department have under five years. That means you have inexperienced people out there that don't really want to do any kind of reaction. We used to go out there and we used to find a crime before these guys committed to crime. Find the bad guys. There's no proactivity with the police. Don't get involved. drive by. I've seen them drive by many at times where they're not getting involved.

Oh, crime is down because no one is reporting anything. Forget quality of life. So if you're a drug addict and you're sitting in front of a school with a needle in your neck, cops aren't going to do anything to you. No, and no, that's it. You can walk on these streets right now.

I'm on 5th Avenue, 42nd Street, right by Bryant Park for people around the country, the heart of New York City. You can walk out there any time and you have people there. You can't wear watches. You can't do this. Everyone's scared stiff. Forget about getting on a train. You know, you go on a train and you take your life in hand. My son, who's 30 years old, my son, Bo. He goes, Bo, Dad, you know what I do? I do no eye contact. He goes, if I do eye contact, I can get in a

fight every two minutes with people. Last question. When you don't have an effective justice system, which in New York City, we do not. And you're right. It's the laws that Andrew Cuomo signed. Hockel comes all the way down, okay? When you have a system that is collapsed, there is no protection for anybody. Wrong? The worst thing in the world is the district attorney

is supposed to be protecting those cops when they're doing their jobs. And when your district attorney, the prosecutor, don't support you. What the hell do police officers? have. They have nothing. Then you've got these judges, these liberal judges that don't care about the cops or don't care about the public. All they care about is the criminal element. This is what's wrong, Bill. And I tell you what, you talk about no spin zone. This is a spin into the

toilet bowl for America across this country. Yeah, it's happening across the country. Not just in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Baltimore, on and on. All right, boy, you You stay safe out there, and it's a good show, Godfather Harlem. I'm just one of the few that I actually watch. Great. And it's very amusing. Tommy Luckezy. You played a gangster when your whole life you were trying to put those guys away.

No, no, no. I go to Dave, Bill, I grew up with John Gotti. I went one way. They wanted another way. Yeah, but you didn't like John Gotti. When the weather cools down, Golden Nugget Online Casino turns up the heat. This winter, make any. moment golden and play thousands of games like her new slot wolf it up and all the fan

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that this hip-hop stuff teaches disrespect and encourages it. Bad language. Don't even wear no condoms. You know, all of that stuff. And kids as younger as what, 10, 11, 12, listen to this. Instead of me,

listen to the Four Tops and the Temptations and Smokey Robinson and all these people, they're listening to this. And I think that the level of disrespect among younger people has risen because of this kind of stuff. Am I wrong?

I'm in no position to say definitively, Bill, that you're wrong. Where I was pushing back on you is when you talked about hip hop as if hip hop are the originators of all of this. When we talk about disrespect, when we talk about some of the lyrics that are spewed. And I'm like, if you listen to rock music, have you listened to heavy metal music? Have you listened to some of the stuff? Spanning decades? Have you seen people worshiping the devil, engaging in saintanism? It's preaching about violence and whatever.

I mean, we've seen all of this in the past, and that had nothing to do with hip hop. So when you came out on Cuomo show and you talked about hip hop, it's one thing to say that you don't like it. But it was almost as if you isolated your opinion to that as opposed to really embracing what really has been happening with the music. industry with Hollywood and some of the things that they've been perpetuating and disseminating for decades long even before hip hop came along well that was my issue but I don't do the I don't do the justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior you're absolutely right I mean a lot of this rock stuff is garbage but this hip hop industry is directed at not just African American children

but children many of whom are marginalized they don't have people in the house father in the house. Look, I wouldn't let my kids listen to Megan the stallion and flowrilla or whatever's name. That could not come into my house. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're wrong if you're saying them. I would say to you there's certain songs I'm not going to allow you to listen to. Like, for example, the artist that I grew up listening to, whether it was run DMC, it was KRS 1, it was Eric B and Rock Kim, public enemy, et cetera, et cetera. It's in this day and age,

whether it's Eminem, it's Jay-Z, it's Nas who's been around forever, along with a plethora of others. There's some songs I wouldn't allow my kids to listen to. There are other songs I don't mind. It all depends on a particular song and a particular lyrics that are being spewed as opposed to me denigrating an artist

because of a particular song. That's what I'm saying to you. Okay, but remember, okay, the unbelievable amount, of African-American children who are living without a father. It is a problem that this country has never seen at this level. You give those kids role models who are using the F-word every two seconds. We've got tattoos all over them, who can't speak proper English,

and you are saying that this is what is going to be imitated. Look, Willie Mays was my idol growing up, all right? It couldn't have been a better idol for me than Willie Mays. It just couldn't have been, all right? And he drove me to play baseball for 15 consecutive years. And then I went over to the turn on W.A.B.C. AM radio to listen to all of these black artists whose music was uplifting. That helped me. It didn't hurt me.

Now, the role models, many of them, are hurting these kids. You've got to admit that. I'm not denying. I'm not, I have no problem admitting that. I have no problem acknowledging that parents and it extends beyond the black community, white. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, everybody's complaining about it.

You're absolutely right. I'm not here to say that you're wrong. I just want you to contextualize things properly. So we're talking about the subject right now, Bill. And you can look at it that way, and you have every right to. I'm not going to knock you for that. But allow me to retort. Let's go into your wheelhouse for a second.

Right now, we're looking at an unemployment rate in the United States of America that's hovering around 4 to 4.1%. In the black community, it's at 16%. Amongst young black males, particularly between the ages of 16 and 19, for example, I think I read the number at being at about 19.8%. I've often been on the air saying this, when white folks catch a cold, black folks catch pneumonia. It's always worse for us. There's always an uphill battle to climb to get to your point. It makes it even harder when other obstacles get in the way that we know

would potentially derail, particularly somebody from an African American community on a come up looking for opportunities. But what happens? The music industry comes along and they're talking to you about making money. And here's how we want you to make the money. And so you have young minds that are being influenced, but most importantly are trying to get a leg up or trying to earn their stripes or trying to find a way to pay their bills and to take care of themselves and their family, etc., that are presented with these opportunities.

So when you talk about a hip-hop industry, you might talk about the artist, and I might say somebody like Bill O'Reilly is informed enough to know it extends far beyond that particular artist because those artists answer to somebody. Somebody makes those albums. They promote those albums. They market those albums.

They disseminate that to the massive. Yeah, but the artist is created, it is creating the scenario that if you are a certain person, you can use that language. The reason that the minority unemployment is higher is because of the presentation. If you're an African American in this country and you present yourself in a way the employer believes that is going to help the business, you'll get the job. Not always. No system is perfect.

But believe me, you have a just so good a chance to get that job. And you don't want to work for a racist anyway, okay? Right. So, but if you go in and you can't speak English and you're going the F word every two minutes and you've got a tattoo of a panther on your neck, there's a good chance you're not going to get the job. That is totally true. But that is not a vast majority of African Americans out in this world. And you have to take that into consideration as well.

Now, you might look at some members of the hip hop community and you might see them acting a certain way, which is unfortunate, and we don't hesitate to call them out for that. But we also see a lot of these hip hop artists doing fantastic things within the community, within the world. Okay, but that doesn't justify law. Jay Z sold crack, all right, kill people, all right? I have no respect for him.

None. Zero. Well, he's, and he's a friend of mine. Okay, I'm sorry, well, I'm sorry, but I'm a truthful man. He sold crack. So am I? So if he would come out and he would say, I was absolutely wrong, don't use crack, all right? That was horrible.

And I'm saying to you is you can do two things at once. You can admit exactly what Bill O'Reilly said. And then turn around and say, excuse me, this is what I had to do to survive because the opportunity. I don't believe that for a second. Well, tell me, tell me someone, you don't believe that. No, because there are most African. Americans don't sell crack. I understand that, but you're using a specific incident.

I'm going to a macro perspective. There are an abundance of situations involving males in the African-American community where trying times present themselves and challenges present themselves. I was fortunate and blessed enough to have a mother and a father in the home, Bill. Yeah, me too. And that's why I feel terrible about the unsupervised children, not just African-Americans, with all of them who get involved with this hip hop, which is going to hurt them. Last question.

Wouldn't it be better? Not simple of that, but okay. Wouldn't it be better for the world if Motown came back and all of the good songs that we still listened to 50, 60 years later, okay, dominated the music industry and not this other garbage? Wouldn't that be better? I think a lot of it exists now. You've got a lot of beautiful artists out here. Have you ever listened to Joe?

Have you ever listened to An abundance of other guys out there with some great music? Some great albums out there and whatever. Everybody can't be Prince, Michael Jackson, The Temptations, the Four Tops. You forgot to mention the Osley brothers. Let's not forget about that. Teddy Pendergrass, Luther Vantros. You had a whole bunch of artists that were absolutely fabulous. I got to stop you there.

On Cuomo tonight, if we have time. You asked me about going to the Isley Brothers concert, okay? I was the only white guy in there. The only white guy. I remember you told me. Okay. You told me that. And the crowd.

But see, here's your problem. This is your problem. You think you're loved because you, you know, Bill O'Reilly is right and he tells the truth. That's not why you're respected and why you can walk anywhere, even when people disagree with you. Do you know what the real reason is, Bill? Even if we think you're wrong, we know you mean what you say. You believe it. You feel it.

We could go on and on about this particular conversation. I could have corrected you on a few things. But I know that your foundation, the foundation of your belief has some merit, and you're bold enough and brave enough to say it. And to say it respectfully rather than hide it behind some curtains. So that's where it comes from. But it isn't because we think you write all the time.

No, no. And I don't want you to think I'm right all the time. I just try to make an overwhelming case, and that's what the three Americans is all about. That's why it's sweeping the country. You've got three separate guys who all have belief systems who throw it on out there, and then people can say, all right, that's been, that's it. Hey, Steve, then, we'll see you. You could be nicer.

You could be nice at the Chris Ford. You'd be, you could be nice. You could be nice. You know, he doesn't deserve it. I mean, I'll tell you. He just doesn't deserve it. All right, I'll see you soon. Thanks for Alvinus. I appreciate it.