Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition

Episode Date: July 13, 2024

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Welcome to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So as soon as I saw the polling after the debates, I wanted to bring in our go-to polling guy, John McLaughlin, who does work for Donald Trump. So he's not an objective guy, but he gets numbers that are interesting. So he joins us now from a Blaville, New York, which is a... upstate, Orange County, right? Orange County, that's where you are? Rockland County. Rockland, Orange. Okay. So the Morning Consult and the USA Today, to me, Trump should be much further ahead

than what they put out. What say you? I think you identified that job approval gap because a lot of the pollsters are talking about the double haters that Biden still wins if you're unfavorable to both. The difference is Biden's job approval and his favorable rating is now the same. He's got in our last poll we put out right before the debate he has a 57 disapproved almost within a point of his unfavorable. With Trump, there's the job approval people who say he was a good president and the ones who say he'll be an even better president this time. And that's a big difference. huge difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden right now, because Biden's underwood on both

his personality and on his job approval. Well, Trump has a positive job approval. All right. So you're saying what my analysis is correct, that Trump's personality, public persona, is holding him back somewhat, correct? Right. And because when you think about how well Trump did in the debate, he really, I mean, we're having a hard time portraying his. debate success as a positive for him because they're so focused on Biden's age right now. I mean, by the way, that Stephanopoulos interview, he spent more time asking Joe Biden about the polls than he did his health. They don't care about his health. What they're upset about, the liberal

media is upset that Donald Trump is ahead in the polls and he's been in the head, head in the polls for two years. And they thought a rigged debate on CNN with no audience. They could shut off Donald Trump's mic. They could have, you know, Dana Bash and Jake Tapper, you know, ask the right questions. And they thought that Joe Biden could win that when he didn't win that, and he's still behind in the polls. And Donald Trump's lead appears to be growing in polls that you cited. you know, and the undecided now, they actually have like an 80% disapproval of Joe Biden, and they're ready to vote for Donald Trump. They think that the country's on the wrong track.

We had our poll, 66% said the country's on the wrong track, but it's over 80% with the undecided. So this is like the Reagan Carter debate in 80, except that debate happened in October. This one happened in June. And changing the candidate won't change things. The country's on the wrong track. It's like changing the captain of the Titanic after it hit an iceberg. Who wants to go down?

You know what's going to happen. The person who takes Biden's place will probably be Kamala Harris. I'm going to report on that right after we dismiss you. But you do internal polling. Internal polling is not made public, right? You do that. Correct. Do your numbers stack with the public or is Trump further ahead?

on the internal polling? A lot of those polls you said are pretty accurate. And the Trump campaign, we don't really... So it's a three, four point lead for Trump at this point. Do you do internal polling on who would be the best VP for Trump? I have not done that. I've not done that. I'm surprised because I thought that he might want to see that data.

So I just think Nikki Haley because of, you know, her appeal to independent women. She takes some of the edge off the ticket. The press can't really attack her that much, although they would on abortion. So that would be my choice if I were Donald Trump. But you guys haven't even polled who the Republicans would want, huh? I have not, and I find that there's only one person worth polling as far as who the VP should be, and that's Donald Trump, and he'll make that decision. No, I understand. Trump's going to do what he wants. He always does what he wants. Final question for you, John, I would very much appreciate your expertise and your time. You said this race was like Carter, Reagan, and it is. Not just in the debate area,

but Reagan only pulled away the last week before the vote. And it was going back and forth because people weren't, the press was pounding Reagan, not as bad as they pound Trump, but pretty brutal. The liberal press is pounding Ronald Reagan as this empty-headed actor who really didn't know what he was doing. And Carter, even though he had problems, much better, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The press was about 80% pro Carter. But then in the last week after Reagan made him look foolish, Carter, and he did in the debate. Then the public shifted. Right now, the odds are that Kamala Harris is going to be squaring off against Donald Trump. Is that a better matchup, in your opinion, than Biden versus Trump?

Well, our last national poll that we released, that wasn't done for the Trump campaign, we had Trump within two of Biden right before the debate, but he was, but he was, Trump was over Biden by two. He was over Kamala Harris by five. Against Kamala Harris, Donald Trump was still getting 28% of the black vote. He was getting out over four to ten. of Hispanics. The Obama coalition, she would have a hard time putting it back together again. So we'll see. I mean, Joe Biden right now is fighting to hang on, and he's the only one who can say I'm not running. But with Kamala Harris, Donald Trump does really well because Donald Trump's policies, when people talk about a good economy with low inflation, securing the border,

protecting Social Security and Medicare, keeping the economy ground. Look, there's no change in policy, but Kamala Harris' policies or Biden's policies. It's just that Kamala Harris has come across consistently in three and a half years as knowing nothing. And I'm going to prove that right now. John McLaughlin, thank you very much for helping us out. I hope we can talk again soon. Thank you. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress.

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Coast every day. Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. As we mentioned, the New York Times and other liberal news organizations, and we named them yesterday, are turning on Biden. They want them out. The situation is, I don't know one liberal newspaper. Not one. That is saying, hey, Joe, stay. If you do know one in your town, please let me know.

Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com, bill at bill o'Reilly.com. joining us now is a professor of communication at DePaul University, Jeffrey McCall, comes to us from Greencastle, Indiana. He's a media columnist for the Hill, and I read his stuff all the time, because you're essentially, in my opinion, fair. You're not an ideologue coming at it from one point or another. So I have a number of questions for you. There's no doubt that the liberal media, in my mind, covered for Biden for maybe two years or so. Do you see it that way? Oh, yes, I do. I think actually the media covering for Joe Biden goes back even to the campaign of 2020, where they gave him very soft treatment while he ran a campaign from his

basement. And it was explained away pretty much just as it was COVID and nobody could be outside and that sort of thing. But I look at the way that the media has covered the Biden administration over the last couple of years as what I call the journalism of omission because the establishment media has consciously made a point to not cover much of the bad news of the Biden administration, which would primarily be questions about his age and his frailty and his cognitive limitations, but also, as you were mentioning earlier, about problems on the border, drug overdoses, inflation, and all that sort of thing. So I really think the establishment media has worked very hard to do this collective journalism of omission.

And keep in mind, omissions are not accidents. These are conscious decisions by the news organizations, executive producers, editors, and that sort of thing, to try to provide cover for the Biden administration because that basically they can't afford to let him look frail or weak or ineffective at a time when they know in the field is the Republican candidate who happens to be Donald Trump

and that's the justification that no matter how incompetent Biden is he's not as bad as the evil Trump that's how they rationalize it but it's not just professor the news organization

it's entertainment as well there's a study out that the late night entertainment is 96% liberal guests and the 4% that aren't liberal are people Liz Cheney who's bashing Trump, okay? So there's no one, and I think I broke the record for non-liberal appearances on Leno and Letterman and Kimmel and John Stewart when I was at Fox. Now nobody on Fox could get booked on any of those shows. I can't get booked on them.

It's a total shutout. So while the press is omitting facts that Americans should know, the entertainment side is basically censoring any non-liberal opinion. The one-two punch, and you must see it on the college students in your classroom. The one-two punch is devastating for the free flow of information, is it not? Well, you're correct on that. Although I must say I'm less concerned with the entertainment industry than I am with the professional journalism industry because we've thought over the years that the journalism industry had some standards where they were pursuing truth. They weren't in it for a joke.

They weren't trying to push popular culture necessarily, and that they would maybe lead where the facts led them. And I think that's where we've seen the omission here over the last several years is we've seen basically no professional standards or acceptance of journalists' normal function of trying to inform a nation. And I think that's one of the things here is that we've seen over the last couple of years. censorship by the press, that the press is in a sense censored the stories that should be floating around in the rhetorical sphere, as we say, where we should be trying to inform the nation. And they really let themselves down on that. They have. And that's why shows like mine are growing. And I'm going to give some stats at the end of this program that are stunning about how much our audience has grown.

And we are now competing with the corporate media. So we're seeing. now the New York Times and other offenders trying to rehabilitate their reputations by going after Joe Biden. We're seeing an NBC News even did it. You think that's going to work? Well, I don't think so. I think the reputations and the credibility for most of the establishment media are already in very bad shape.

And the one question I would ask to all of the producers and editors out there now who seem to be on the warpath against Biden. I would say to them, what is it you know now about Biden and his capabilities or his cognitive limitations that you didn't know several months ago or throughout the whole primary season or even two years ago when the Easter bunny was protecting Joe Biden against talking to people, you know, at the rope line, at an Easter hunt at the White House on? Right. So, I mean, you think about these kinds of things. You'll never get an answer. You'll never get an answer to that. The signals have been out there for a long time.

And I think one of the greatest pathways that the media could have used to pursue the story of Biden's incapability was when Robert Herr's report came out last winter. Because Robert Hur spent two days and multiple hours interviewing the president last October. And when he issued his report and indicated that the president had memory problems and mental lapses, that would have given the press every opportunity to go into a deep dive to say, what is it that we're seeing here? And why is it that the president didn't show up for a Super Bowl interview? Why does the president not hold press conferences or do journalistic interviews anymore? And instead, the press dismissed Robert Hear's report as a political hack job. And they dismissed him by just saying he's a political activist and there's nothing to see here because he's not going to charge the president.

But Trump is being charged for the classified documents kind of stuff. Of course. But the recompense is in now. Washington Post lost $77 million last year. The network news ratings are awful. The cable news ratings. I have the average age. This is amazing. MSNBC's median age is 70. All right. Fox News is just about 70. CNN's is 67. So young, younger people below 54, they're out. They're already said, we're getting hosed. These people are manipulating us with propaganda. We can't trust them.

We're not going to take their product at all. So finally, right? What was Reverend Wright's famous quote, the chickens? Come home to roost, last word. Media credibility is tanking. And as you've indicated here, audiences are going someplace else because audiences no longer have any confidence in the traditional media sources they've had

because they view these media sources as activist organizations rather than news organizations. And they are. And when you don't trust them, you are going to go to alternative sources of media. Some of them are more responsible than others. But my fear is your average news consumer gets disgruntled with establishment media and they go off on different pathways or they're

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for the Daily Mail and a guy that does a lot of internet work. Charlie Spearing, who joins us now from Powell, Wyoming, where he is on vacation. So I read every pagey book, and it's an anti-comla Harris book. You don't like her at all, but I have my staff check out a lot of the facts. That's what we always do for every author, and everything checks. Was it anything I saw or could find that you wrote that wasn't true? So that's why you're sitting there with your little headphones on in Wyoming. Okay.

Well, thanks, Bill. I'm glad I passed the test. So I submit to you that Donald Trump wants to run against Biden more than he would like to run against Harris. Do you believe that? I think that's right, Bill. I think she, I think Donald Trump has absolutely spent his entire four years campaigning against Joe Biden using those arguments of why voters can't trust him to be the next president. you know, to get reelected as the next president of the United States. And I think if Joe Biden leaves the stage, Trump has to start from ground zero.

He hasn't spent a lot of time attacking Kamala Harris, you know, a little bit here and there. But it's never been the central point of his campaign. And, you know, it's telling right before the debate, Trump was the one who issued a video warning people that if Joe Biden doesn't do well in this debate, then we're facing the very real possibility of a president, Kamala Harris. Yeah, and Trump believes, as I do, and probably you as well, that Biden's going to get worse. It's just a matter of time and when another catastrophe is going to be for all the country. That's what this is all about, the country. Now, you trace Harris from her childhood all the way through her California political career.

And I know Willie Brown, and I know the situation where he was the mentor of Kamala Harris. So I don't think there was anything untoward about that. Willie Brown was separated from his wife, at least in Willie Brown's mind. There was out in the open, Herb Kane, the gossip commons, and San Francisco wrote about it every day. And then Harris benefited from that, got to be the Attorney General, then got to be the senator. When she goes to Washington, she doesn't really do anything. The two headlines she made were attacking Joe Biden as a racist in the debate.

Everybody knows that. And attacking Brett Kavanaugh, convicting him of heinous crimes with no due process. Was there anything else she did in the Senate that anybody took notice of? Right. From the very moment she gave her speech after winning the Senate race,

she really defined herself as the person who would go to Washington and tackle the newly elected. President Donald Trump. So she became a voice, a mouthpiece for any sort of Democrat that was looking for a hero, a new superhero presidential candidate who could go and attack Trump. And it was very clear right away from many senators who I talked to, many sources in the Senate I talked to that Kamala Harris did not come to the Senate to be a workhorse. She was there to be a showhorse and she was there to run for president. Okay. So they were grooming her as a DEI

candidate diversity equity inclusion um for the presidency of the united states that's what they were doing according to you right well it's interesting the the media very much saw her as a possible trump slayer in the 2020 election but when she finally ran you know announced her candidacy for president it only went downhill from there you know this is why she made her famous attack against joe biden you know branding him a racist was because she was already sputtering and running out of gas in her campaign. Voters could not take her seriously. They viewed her as inauthentic and sort of unwilling to talk seriously about the issues. And she really struggled during her presidential campaign. Anyone who as a student of that came would have never chosen her as the vice president

of the United States. Yeah. And the reason Biden did was ethnicity and vote ketting among the African-American community. Now, the reason that Kamala Harris has never connected with the folks, in my opinion now is that nobody knows what she's talking about roll a tape be it a meeting room a board room a courtroom a hearing room you walk in those rooms knowing that we are all in that room with you applauding you on and expecting certain things from you including that you will not be silent in those rooms and that we expect that from you because we also expect that you will internalize and know we're there with you and so your voice can be strong i have no idea none what that means do you no idea yes she's really trying

to make the case that you know encouraging you know encouraging students to stand up and make themselves heard in a room where people might be telling them no. Kamala frequently talks about how she, you know, quote, I eat no for breakfast. I don't let anyone tell me no. When I want to do something, I go forward. And she's encouraging students to do the same thing. Okay, but why didn't she just say that? I mean, this stuff in the room, and she used the word you 10 times, and that's how she speaks. I submit to you that no voter listening to that 35 seconds soundbite would know anything that she's talking about at all unless she, I just, it's staggering. So that's why she hasn't connected, because people can't make sense of what she says or does. Remember when a Biden

sandbagged her, this was revenge, in my opinion, for the racist comments by making her queen of the border and saying, Kamala's going to go down and find her root causes and solve it. And that wasn't fair to Kamala, believe me, and she knew it. And then Kamala went to Guadalu. And then Kamala went to Guatemala for like an hour and a half, and that was the end of Queen of the Border. That was it. So there's nothing for her to run for president on that I can see. Do you have anything that she can run on? Right. At this point, she's basically going to run, if she does become the, you know, the Democratic candidate for 2024, you know, if Biden steps down, it'll be very much a campaign on, you know, preserving the Biden-Harris legacy for whatever.

that is, and then moving forward into her number one issue, which is that of abortion with no limits at all. And I think that she sees that as a key jumping point for any of her presidency or a future candidate to see for presidency is the issue of abortion and all sorts of issues that she wants to lean on. Cultural issues, legalize marijuana, all sorts of voting rights. These are the issues she would probably weaponize to use against Republicans and really paint them as out of touch and out of the center. Yeah, but I mean, most Americans don't want abortion on demand for any reason in the ninth month of pregnancy, and so there's that.

Final question for you. She, Kamala Harris, to me, is not the best and the brightest, nor is Joe Biden. But what she will bring if she runs, and that is my scenario now, she will viciously attack Donald Trump. I mean, in ways that we have never seen in this country. I mean, Biden does what Biden does. Kamala Harris will do it on steroids to use a cliche. Nothing will be sacred. She will go after that man and attack him personally every hour on the hour, hoping to provoke him into an inappropriate response. That's what she will do. Am I wrong? That's very insightful, Bill. That's absolutely what she's going to do. This is what she's done throughout her political career. Not only has she shown,

you know, thrown people that who help her in politics under the bus for her own political advantage. She relishes the idea of a campaign fight, a bare knuckles match. She frequently describes California politics as, you know, bare knuckle boxing, you know, a no-hold bars. So this is absolutely what she'll turn the 2024 campaign into, a really vicious personal race against Donald Trump, really trying to paint him as out of touch and old. And a criminal and a philanderer and whatever else, a Nazi, a Hitlerite, you know, on and on and on. It'll be the dirtiest campaign in American history by far. You know, Biden does it, but she'll never do it like Kamala Harris. And when you punch back, then you're going to be a racist

and misogynist that she'll use that. All right, Charles. The book is Amateur hour, and I think it's the best book on Kamala Harris. Again, you're coming at it from she's not very, I don't know, tenable to traditional Americans, but the facts are the facts, and they're there. I've a nice vacation out there in Wyoming, lovely state, love to go there, and thanks for helping us out. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. of the no spin news, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com. Sign up and start watching today.