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Episode Date: April 18, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. More craziness in the Iran basin, but I'm getting the feeling that things may start to turn positive for the USA, and of course the world, but the world doesn't know it, in a day or two. Could be wrong. This is speculation, but there is some positive signs, and that is the suburb. of this evening's talking points memo. So over the weekend talks in Pakistan between Iran and the USA went nowhere. Everybody's out of there now. So it was, I don't know, a waste of time, but certainly the Mullahs are feeling no pressure
Starting point is 00:00:54 to comply with President Trump's and Israel's demands. They like this. this. This is good for the mullahs, help spread the jihad. They're not in any mood to compromise at all. So the United States now has to try to starve Iran out. And they're going to do that by blockading the Straits of Hormuz to all shipping in and out of Iranian ports. If you're a Saudi ship or Emirates, you can go through. But if you are attached to Iran, dropping things off or picking things up, you cannot. And the U.S. Navy will enforce that.
Starting point is 00:01:42 And I have the utmost confidence that the Navy will. In the meantime, they're kind of clearing out a lot of the drones and mines and things like that. And CENTCOM, U.S. Central Command, says that this is, is only impacting maritime traffic to Iran. Okay, so nobody else is involved, unless you're buying stuff, and China does, and that's big, okay, from the Muller's. Now, is it gonna work? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:02:25 But there's a pretty big chance at will. And that means that all commerce inside Iran, will stop and people have to eat so that's the strategy now will it bring the mullers to their knees nobody knows that you can watch stupid cable all day long and they'll speculate but nobody can possibly know a negative to this is the UK and that's a Keir a stormer the prime minister says we're not gonna help And that means that none of the other Native countries will help either.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And they could with the blockade. All right, but they won't. Boy, oh boy, that's really a negative for the world when a whole continent of Europe sits it out. There's a reason they don't like Israel. Nobody likes Israel. And they don't like Trump. That's it. If another president were there, they'd have maybe a little.
Starting point is 00:03:37 But with the Greenland thing and all that, this is personal now. It's not good. And there's nothing Donald Trump can do about it at this point. Can't force NATO to cooperate. Now, other countries, like aforementioned Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, will help. and that'll be a new alliance there. But it is a conundrum. That's my favorite new word here for the United States and Israel. And I wrote a column yesterday,
Starting point is 00:04:15 and I hope you read it on bill o'Reilly.com called Disruption. Again, the mullahs like this. This is good for the jihad. We're powerful. We're going to do what we want. That United States isn't going to show us anything or tell us what to do. That's the mentality here. It's not like we want to make a deal. They don't want to make a deal. They're like Putin and Ukraine. It's almost exactly the same mentality.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Now maybe they will have to once they're starving, but I don't know. This morning, the Dow opened 184 points down. It recovered in the afternoon. Oil is up to about $104 a barrel. That's up 60% from a year ago. So everybody's suffering. Higher prices. We'll tell you about that in Smart Life.
Starting point is 00:05:10 It's just a reality. And a lot of Americans don't like it. And some of them will vote against Trump because of the higher prices in the midterms. President has to know that. He's hoping for a positive outcome so that the prices go down
Starting point is 00:05:26 quickly. But this is very intense. You may remember at the beginning of all this, I said that this was the biggest gamble of the Trump presidency. And it obviously is. Could go either way. In the meantime, the media continues to pound Trump, because they hate them too.
Starting point is 00:05:51 It's very much like NATO. This is personal. And here's what the president said, about the media. Go. It's so sad when you look at CNN, the New York Times, ABC fake news, NBC fake news. When you look at this stuff, it's so sad to see it. I mean, they report things that they know are false. It's almost treasonous, actually, if you want to really know the truth.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Okay, so summing up, President can't pull back on this now. He's got to carry it through. So there can't be any Mollers get to keep. their uranium or they get any participation in Straits of Hormuz, that can't happen. Would Trump's presidency be destroyed? So he's got to know that and makes it very much complicated. But I just have a feeling that this blockade in Hormuz is really going to energize the Persian people. because boy, oh boy, I think it's rough here.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I was paying more over there. And that's the memo. You're listening to the No Spino News Weekend Edition. All right, so the Pope is involved with this, and it's being reported all wrong. So the Pope is in the turn-the-other-cheek business. That's the business that the pontiff is in. turn the other cheek, okay?
Starting point is 00:07:29 Peace at almost all costs. You remember in the gospel that when the Nazarene was being condemned, he was mocked by the Roman centurions and even some other people that had proximity to him, well, if your God bring down your angel legions and free, you know, that kind of thing. Jesus just stood there and looked at him. So the Pope is in the peace business. That's where he is. President Trump's in the confrontation business. He wants to solve problems that some are violent. Okay, obviously the mullors having a nuclear weapon could lead to worldwide destruction. Okay. So there are two different points of view here. It's not like the Pope and President Trump
Starting point is 00:08:35 are sitting down and they're trying to figure out a strategy. There are two strategies. Okay. The first strategy is Pope Leo saying everybody stop. We want peace. War mongers are bad. And the other one is Donald Trump. saying, hey, I have an obligation to protect the American people. Here's what the president said on true social. I don't want a Pope who thinks it's okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I don't want a Pope who thinks it's terrible that America attacked Venezuela, a country that was sending massive amounts of drugs into the United States and even worse, emptying their prisons, including murderers, drug dealers,
Starting point is 00:09:23 killers into our country. And I don't want a pope who criticizes the president of the United States because I'm doing exactly what I was elected in a landslide to do, unquote. All right. So he, President Trump is mad at the Pope. He doesn't want the Pope intruding with criticism on him. The Pope doesn't much like President Trump, roll out. I will continue to speak out loud against war, looking to promote peace, promoting dialogue and multilateral relationships among the states to look for just solutions and problems. Too many people are suffering in the world today. Too many innocent people are being killed. Okay, now if I'm discussing this with the Pope, I'm saying yes, but what is the obligation that you have as the leader of the Catholic Church? worldwide to stop that killing.
Starting point is 00:10:28 The innocent people are being killed, right? That's true. What's your obligation to stop it? That's my question. The Pope is going to say, my obligation is to tell everybody not to do it. He's not a, he's not, his business is not in public policy. This is like comparing the Navy. seals to the Carmelite nuns.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Seals are in the business of warfare, and the Carmelite nuns are in the business of helping people without any violence whatsoever, and they never will be. So I hope you see, and the two sides are talking past each other. All right, if I could moderate a discussion, between the Pope and President Trump, I could get a consensus on this, I think, but that's not going to happen, of course. Anyway, so there's literally abroad, no one sticking up for the USA in this,
Starting point is 00:11:47 and there are a lot of people enabling the Mullets, and that is the memo. historical perspective here. Only one pope in my lifetime has intruded himself into a political situation. That was Pope John Paul II, the first Polish pope. He served a long time, and he was elected in 1978, and he went to Poland, which was dominated by the Soviet Union, totalitarianism in 79, and basically said, hey, you have to be, you have to change, you have to treat the Polish people humanely. That's the only Pope that I know of that injected himself into politics. Isn't that interesting? Joining us now from Washington or nearby is the online opinion editor of the Washington Times, Cheryl Chumley. And Cheryl's got an interesting book out
Starting point is 00:12:54 called God Given or Bus, Defeating Marxism and Saving America with biblical truths. So this is a perfect guess for us. Let's do the overall number one assessment that Donald Trump is in a tight spot right now. How tight do you think it is? Thanks for having me first off, Bill. And to answer the question, it's only tight if he doesn't have the resolve to see it through. You made the key point here that this administration cannot back down from Iran. Otherwise, they're toast, right? They just emboldened the regime further.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And they weaken America around the world. So this administration has to continue. until Iran bow. So that's the tight spot. But you also made the point, and I agree with you, that this blockade could do wonders in bringing Iran to its knees, particularly because of the internal pressures
Starting point is 00:14:02 from the citizens that will result from it. All right, but the likelihood of the mullahs caring about their own people is what? Zero. And I think the biggest point you made Nobody knows, right? You're right. The regime over there does not care about its people. But at a certain point in time, they run out of resources, right? Their leaders are being killed. Their missiles are dwindling. Their ability to wage military operations are dwindling. They bomb their friends and allies, at least the ones that they do business with against their enemies. And China really hasn't weighed in in any strong public. show of support for them. So at a certain point, this fails tip to Iran doesn't have any place to go here. All right, but again, they can, as the Third Reich did, hold out for a while wreaking havoc on the
Starting point is 00:15:05 entire world's economy because everybody's going to pay more and a lot of people don't have any money. They can, and that's where our European allies should really be stepping up because they're the that are taking the first and foremost hit from Iran right now. But look, if they could hold out to the end of President Donald Trump's administration, that would be their play here. I don't know if they have the resources to do that. But they know that this president, unlike any other president in 47 years, is the one that has taken the wartime opposition to Iran and has stood strong.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And he's very different. Trump is very different from any other presidents. So if I ran, the regime could hold out to the end of his White House term, then they might have a chance. But that's a long time away right now. Now, my analysis of the Pope that they are two, they're in two different businesses. And there's no connection, although I think I could make one. But right now, it's Trump sees the Pope as a. detriment to this and the Pope sees Trump as a warmonger. Do you expect that to change?
Starting point is 00:16:26 No, I don't. But look, these two entities don't have to be working at cross purposes, right? Because America was founded on an ideal of fighting for religious freedom. And we had the Black Robe Regiment, right? We had the pastors that would preach in church and then take their robes off and go out in the field and fight. alongside the colonists. And the Pope doesn't have to choose between faith and biblical principles and supporting a war. There is plenty of opportunity for the Pope
Starting point is 00:16:59 to weigh in on the evil of the regime while still calling for peace. Those two things don't have to be. But I haven't heard him weigh in on the evil of the Iranian regime, have you? No, I haven't, and that's problematic. That's why I think Donald Trump is quite right in criticizing the Pope's actions here.
Starting point is 00:17:20 What about using a picture of him as Jesus? And Trump didn't do it, but he forwarded it out there. It's pulled now, but when I saw that, I went, that's not helping anything. That's more than not helping. It's really offensive. I'm a Christian. I was offended, and I'm still a supporter of Trump.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And I had actually just penned a piece for the Washington Times criticizing Trump over that when he pulled it from social media. So I'm not sure if I'll still run it or not. But look, the evangelical community loves Donald Trump and they support Donald Trump. But they don't. You know, there are certain lines you don't cross and putting out a picture of yourself. Sort of looking like Jesus. That's a line. Yeah, it was more than sort of Cheryl.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And again, he didn't do it, but he forwarded it out there. And it just seems like this isn't the time for any kind of levity at all. All right, summing up this thing, I see a glimmer on this Hormuz's Pentagon, because the Pentagon, obviously, he's running this thing, strategy. But I think that Mollers would take their whole. 93 million people down with them and that boil boy that's a tough one I'm gonna tell you about the most unforgettable gift you can get mom this mother's day have you heard of gold belly it's this amazing site that celebrates the best of America by
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Starting point is 00:21:02 that they are really, they're almost working on the side of the regime more than they are on the side of freedom, more than they are on the side even of the Iranian people. And if the media would start helping and reporting the truths here, and our European allies would actually do something aside from working against America and Israel, then perhaps it wouldn't have to come to that point that you just described where all the people of Iran are subjected to the brutality of this regime. Do you know what the group think is in NATO?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Why they're not helping? Do you have any idea? Well, you know, you did reference that their dislike of Israel and their dislike of Trump, and I honestly can't think of any bigger reason than that. Yeah, I think that's what it is. All right, Cheryl, thanks very much for helping us out. As always, we really appreciate it. Thank you. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Pretty slow news day, with the exception of Iran, and the swirl around. I said at the very beginning, and you'll remember, that this was the biggest gamble President Trump has ever taken in his entire life. And we still don't know how that gamble is going to work out for the president. Can he prevail over Iran? Is the U.S. going to look foolish and weak in the eyes of the world? NATO's against them. The American media is against him. Talking about President Trump now.
Starting point is 00:22:44 China and Russia are not our friends. We have some Gulf states like Saudi Arabia. We're on our side. But we are heavily outnumbered. It is just amazing that Iran, a terrorist state, is winning the PR war. And that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. So the American media is dominant all over the world. If you go anywhere, you'll see CNN. They got in early, and they dominate coverage in the English-speaking areas. Okay. So CNN despises Donald Trump, and they're never going to approve anything he ever does.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And we have a situation where once you get the Pope involved, that the secular media is going to go over and support the Pope, no matter what. And, you know, they see Trump as the devil. Here's what I said on News Nation last night. Go. I was just stunned at the pagans in the media being so upset with the Jesus picture. I mean, these are people. The last time they saw the inside of a church was when they were baptized. So, I mean, it's a little, a lot of hypocrisy in the air, but it's predictable.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Okay, so now the Pope is the good guy and the president is the bad guy. This is always the way it comes down. Now, the Pope is a good guy. Okay, I can tell you that, but I'm going to explain it so that we all understand it. After the media came out and said, yeah, the Pope is right and Trump is wrong and Trump is disrespectful and whatever, then cable news ran while with that. Go. Let's start with the president.
Starting point is 00:24:49 This was a sloppy and frankly disrespectful attack on the Pope. I don't think he should have issued this kind of long ad hominem. He didn't get any points for doing this. There's nothing good that comes of it. So, you know, he shouldn't have gone down this path. Why would he do this? Right. And look, you'll have some people on the right who will say, well, we disagree with what the Pope says.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Well, we support the President's actions, and the Pope doesn't. Okay. But that doesn't mean you got to go after the Pope, right? It was rather shocking to hear the President and attack the Pope, considering that there are 60 million Catholics in the United States, 1.4 billion around the world. And I think his remarks were certainly offensive to many cases. Catholics and generally people of goodwill. Okay, we're an offensive to me, and I'm a Catholic, and I think I'm a person of goodwill,
Starting point is 00:25:40 because I understand where the president is coming from, and I understand where Pope Leo is. I could mediate this myself. I could go to Rome and mediate the two sides. And the reason I could do it is because I understand both sides. So Pope Leo's job is to promote peace. He's a pacifist. And he doesn't really come at it from a political point of view. So logically, my question as a Catholic is, okay, your holiness, you saw Iran kill tens of thousands of its own people just a few weeks ago in the streets.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Catholic Church didn't say anything. And it's true. Not a word. And now you know, because this is what the war is all about, that the West, at least Israel and the United States, believe that Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon, which you would use to kill hundreds of thousands of people. And is that okay with the Vatican?
Starting point is 00:27:00 Remember, the Vatican is a separate country. Is it okay? So these questions are never asked, and it's not the fault of the media. They don't get an opportunity to ask those questions, but certainly those questions need to be answered if Pope Leo is going to inject himself into this war, which he has. But he's done it passively.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It's not like he went up and said, listen to me and this, blah, blah, blah, it's not what he did. He took his philosophy of pacifism, all right, and put it forth to the world, which is what he is compelled to do. You didn't do anything wrong. But in a realistic situation, there are things that need to be answered. Now, President Trump's job is not to be a pacifist, it's to be a protector of his people. We, the American people, and the world to some extent, although we have divorced ourselves from NATO and, you know, not entirely our fault. But his job, the president's job, is to protect people from terrorist state.
Starting point is 00:28:27 like Iran. Those two jobs, Pope Leo and Pope and Pope Trump, sorry about that, and President Trump, now I'm going to get, those two jobs are exclusive. There's no common ground, but they could be. There could be. And the key is people of goodwill. So I assume the United States wants to vanquish Iran because it is a theocracy that kills people. Dumbled is that. And the Pope should want Iran vanquished for the same reason. There's your common ground right there. But the media is way beyond them. If you know your Bible, you know in the Nazarene, and I wrote killing Jesus, you guys know that, was being tried, he was being marked
Starting point is 00:29:32 by Romans and Turians and others. He said, hey, king of the Jews, if you're such a king, bring your army down and free yourself. Jesus didn't say a word, okay, because he was destined to be executed. And that passivity has been passed down over the centuries. And it's very important that people understand what's the underlying thing here.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Remember, when Jesus is on the cross, he says, according to the Gospels, okay, Father, forgive them, they know not what they do. Now, Jesus was just talking about the centurions there. The Romans who actually nailed them to the cross, they were just conscripts. They didn't know anything. He was forgiving them because they didn't know what they were doing. He wasn't forgiving the whole apparatus that led to his destruction. A lot of people don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So anyway, I wish I could mediate this because it's not good for the world to have Iran winning the PR race here. In Italy, Georgia Maloney, the prime minister, condemn Trump's remarks about the Pope, but she finds it unacceptable. Okay, fine. It's a political play. Robert Barron, who I respect, he's a bishop in Minnesota, very powerful man on the Internet.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He said that the comments made by Trump about the Pope were inappropriate and disrespectful. I'm not sure if I agree with it. with the bishop about inappropriate, disrespectful. Yeah, Trump could have done it differently. But inappropriate? Well, we're trying to get to the bottom of this thing. We're trying to rally people of goodwill to line up with the United States to stop
Starting point is 00:31:50 the terror government in Iran. I don't know if that's inappropriate. Anyway, that's where we are and that is the memo. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Day two of the blockade. A few ships got through, but I think the blockade is the best strategy. I don't have the CENTCOM reports that the president gets every morning. But it looks like, you know, to starve Iran out and do. deprive them of all revenue is the way to go here until they come to the table. And apparently
Starting point is 00:32:31 there's rumors that there's going to be more talks. So I don't know. I'm going to D.C. next week. Let me try to do a little fact finding there. I don't know whether I'll see the president or not. He did invite me to come, but he's pretty busy. So we'll see. But it is incredible that Iran is actually winning the Battle of Public Opinion with the tremendous help of the American media. Joining us now from New York City is Dr. Olai Hainunan, who is a distinguished fellow at the Stimson Center, which is considered a nonpartisan think tank in D.C. based. However, the doctor is a former deputy director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the IAEA, which is located in Austria. And that's, you know, a good booking for us.
Starting point is 00:33:39 We certainly want to talk to you, doctor. So there are a lot of people in the United States who don't believe that Iran is a nuclear threat at all. That's because they don't want to believe it. It's not based on anything other than they don't like Trump. They don't want to support Trump. So Iran is really not that much of a threat. My question to you is a simple one. Do you believe Iran is a threat to the world?
Starting point is 00:34:05 First of all, thank you for having me. Sure. Yes. I think what is missing from this discussion as a whole are the facts, pure facts. What kind of capabilities Iran has today, how it has been using the high energy, uranium is producing and what is the end plan for that material which is very, very unusual, as the Director General of the AIA has said. We don't know very much about their plans.
Starting point is 00:34:35 We don't know whether there are some additional new facilities, which still remains to be disclosed to the IA and to the international community. And now we have the first meeting. A first step, most likely on a very, very, very large. long journey. So let's concentrate on that and look what needs to be done next and get the people again together, talk maybe from very different angles, but then they perhaps can find a solution which meets the US requirement. Iran will have no nuclear weapons and Iran takes measures to convince the international community that that is really the case. Okay. But, but
Starting point is 00:35:22 In this country, there is a widespread belief that we did destroy a lot of the enriched uranium in last summer, in June, with the bombing raids there. Do you believe the United States raids did destroy some uranium in that situation? Do you believe it? I don't believe before I see the facts, let's put it this way. But let's look what took place in Ford, or Natanz, or Isfahan, a couple of locations associated with those facilities. Sure, it had a devastating impact on Iran's enrichment program. They cannot enrich any uranium anytime soon on those locations.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's for sure. But the main question is, what is the status of, of uranium. They are normally stored in a small, fairly strong cylinders in special vaults. How much did they damage or did they got damaged at all? Or are they just buried under the rubble? Yeah, they're buried. So you don't know exactly the extent of Iran's nuclear program as we sit here and talk. You don't know exactly what they have, right? Well, we have some numbers from the IAA, but we have also to remember a couple of nuances from the IAA reports. They are, I think, ballpark figures are most likely correct, but IAIA
Starting point is 00:37:03 has said all the time in all reports in last few years that these are estimates based on information provided by Iran. Good to remember. So there may be small surprises. But now it's important to get the AIA there, get the facts from the ground, freeze the material, see the equipment, see the cylinders, see the rest of the infrastructure to see. Hey, this is Mike Slater. I have a podcast called Politics by Faith. I would love for you to listen. We take the news of the day and we run it through the Bible.
Starting point is 00:37:43 What does the Bible have to say about this? Because there's nothing new under the sun. Read the headlines. Everything's all crazy. World's coming to an end. It's all in the Bible. And after every episode, hopefully you leave with a proper perspective and a biblical piece. Please join us wherever you listen to podcasts. And we also have a YouTube page as well. YouTube.com slash at Politics by Faith. Can we monitor it? Is it all destroyed? And what kind of measures should be in place to provide assurances that this material is by no means. divert it from the current locations without international community seeing it.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So you believe that there is an enrichment program in Iran an active enrichment program. You believe that? No, there is no evidence that it was terminated. And we have to think a little bit more carefully about these definitions. It's easy to say when you blow up a building that, oh, it's all. building that, oh, it's all gone. But as I said, we don't know where the material is. You don't know what the ancillary, where they had. Now, the situation is easily solved by allowing the IAEA inspectors to go in and look. But the Iranians will not allow that, correct?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yes, that is the topic for the discussion. Why wouldn't they allow it if they weren't misbehaving. Well, to show that they are innocent and this is all false information, so please come and verify. So it's about you're not going to push us around? That's what it's about. After they lost their top leadership and their structure has been reduced by bombings, they're still saying, well, you're not going to push us around. All I have to do is doctors let you guys in,
Starting point is 00:39:45 to look every couple of months to see what they're doing, right? No, there's to be, has to be continuous presence. Not once in two months. That is a non-start for the serious approach. How, whatever it may be, how long would you need to be, you'd have to be a presence there, you'd have to be there at all times? Continuous presence until one has come to the solution,
Starting point is 00:40:11 what to do with this nuclear material, which is there. But I don't worry about that. What to do with the rest of the centrifuges with science storages? They are not only in Natanz, Svahana, or forego. They have an industrial production cycle. They are in the manufacturing places as they were in 2004 when the IA has started the verification. Some 20 locations all over in Iran. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Do you understand why the United States and Israel then went in militarily? because we have been told that this is a threat to the world, that Iran is a threat to the world, because they are close to having enriched uranium at the weapons grade level for nuclear. So this is so important for Americans to know whether this is true or not, right? It is, and it is for everyone important to know.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And this is where the trouble is that we don't know. And we have to remember that they have still a know-how. They may have the motivation because now that they own this high-ended uranium, this is also a bargaining chip, what to do with that. And so there are many factors which kind of attract Iran to use this, as I would say, negotiation weapon, in quotation mark. But they're not cooperating at this point. Would you, would you, favor then with the non-cooperation, the military action is that the right thing to do for the world? Well, military action has taken place. That's the fact. Let's put that one behind. Yeah, but you're a human being. I mean, do you have a, you say, yeah, it should have, or no, or too early, or, you know, I'm trying to get some perspective here, doctor, because people obviously are confused.
Starting point is 00:42:12 they don't know? First of all, Italy says no, something which we may not know, but there are several reasons why they don't want to make it in public in detail. Let's start from that. The Iranian system is very, very compromised with, through the satellite force, etc. We saw it as a result of a bomb.
Starting point is 00:42:35 But there are items missing from the picture, which makes me as a former inspector to feel a little bit uneasy. Where are those pieces? Is someone having perhaps a tiny small enrichment plant, 1,000 centrifuges, 2,000 centrifuges, slowly spinning somewhere, or ready to spin using those centrifuges which might be still in the stock? So these are the questions we need to raise.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You can raise them all day long, but if they don't cooperate with you, your organization, and others in monitoring, then we're never going to get anywhere unless we blow the hell out of them and the regime changes. Anyway, doctor, we appreciate the conversation. It's obviously extremely complex. You know, I wrote a book called Confronting Evil, where the worst people on Earth, attain power and destruction by good people looking away and that's what I think we might have here in Iran but we appreciate time very much this is the no-spin news weekend
Starting point is 00:43:56 edition got a lot to tell you about but it's Iran-centric I've been looking around for another story or two that arises to the level of this one and they don't exists. The closest is the economy, which is obviously being influenced by Iran and what happens over there because people are paying more for essentials of life. And it's impossible to predict whether that anger and people are not happy about paying more will translate into a victory for the Democrats who are blaming President Trump for the Iran thing on and on you all know what the situation is and that will be a very interesting analysis of the vote that's coming up in November the American people understand those who pay
Starting point is 00:44:56 attention 50% why we're doing what we're doing in Iran but they don't like it now if there's victory that could change. Talking points is on all of this tonight. Let's begin with the direct effect on we the people. You know about the gas and food. You know about insurance. You know about all the burdens of life.
Starting point is 00:45:26 What you don't know is that the attack on Iran may cost we the people, the American taxpayer, $1 trillion. A lot of jack. And that would elevate our debt to $40 trillion. And blow out inflation and, you know, all consequences that have to deal with the economy. One trillion dollars. This analysis comes from Harvard to Kennedy School. I don't think it's outlandish.
Starting point is 00:46:06 In the first six days, about $12 billion was spent. trying to neutralize the mulles. I mean, these things are very expensive. All right, the missiles and all the deployment of the troops and all that. Meanwhile, we're picking up the whole tap. Israel does what it can, but Israel doesn't have any money. They're broke. They got enough to do protecting their borders from Hamas and Hezbollah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 So we, for the whole world, the United States taxpayer is funding our protection against the mad mullahs of Tehran. Something really wrong with that. But we can't force these people. And that's a situation that we're in, that the United States is likely to win this, and then the Europeans will benefit. and the South Asians will benefit. And then we're left with the tab. Brul. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:17 So when we're analyzing this, should money be a factor? I don't know what the alternative is. So if you let the Mullahs have a nuclear weapon, and again, there are people who don't believe that they are going to develop a nuclear weapon, that's based on nothing. That belief is not based on any fact at all. People want to believe it.
Starting point is 00:47:45 They believe it. There's no proof. They don't see CENTCOM reports or CIA reports or Mossad reports. I don't believe what I want to believe. Okay. So we are in a situation where we're getting host. And I think I'm trying to analyze this in a historical way. I've never seen it this bad where the whole world says we're not going to help,
Starting point is 00:48:18 even though we know the danger involved would happen. We're not going to give you anything. Now, can Trump get some of that money back down the road? Maybe, but a smidget. Okay, if so's poll, just can. Vuk just conducted 1,019 adults. This is not a good poll, but I'll throw it out there. It's the latest we have.
Starting point is 00:48:46 First question overall, do you approve or disapprove of US military strikes against Iran approve 35%? Disapprove 60%. Okay, so why do you disapprove? That's the question. Why? You know they're bad. You gotta know that Iran's bad, right?
Starting point is 00:49:06 The overwhelming evidence is they have uranium, and they could enrich it into a nuclear weapon. So why are you opposed? I guess the answer would be, well, we shouldn't do it alone, or we need consensus. I guess that would be the answer. But not going to get done unless we do it. Second question, a long run, you think the U.S. military action in Iran will improve security of the U.S. 26% make the security of the USA worse, 41%, and not have much of an impact either way, 29. It's another question where you're basing your opinion on what?
Starting point is 00:49:54 Worse? How can it be worse if they're developing a nuclear weapon? I guess they could develop three of them. That might be worse. Next question is the U.S. military in Iran had an impact on your own personal financial situation. Yes, mostly positive 1%. I guess those are defense contractors. Mostly negative 54%, as you would expect, not at an impact 29%. And the last question, considering both the costs and benefits to the USA, do you think it has been worth the USA taking military action?
Starting point is 00:50:33 Iran, 24% say yes. That's very low. Very low. Not worth it. 51% don't know, 22%. Okay. There's a bit of an isolationist movie happening in the USA, but it's not anything major. It's not like World War II, where we had parties. that say, no, no, we're not going to go and get involved with Hitler or Tojo in Japan, and no, we're staying here, and that's it. We don't have that. We have gadflies on social media, but it's not a big movement. So you can't blame that.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Now I'm going to give you a brief history lesson. So we all know Adolf Hitler, right? It's on the cover of my book Confronting Evil. And Hitler was not a man of subtlety. All right? he wrote a book called Monkomph where he said, you know, if I get power, I'm wiping out the Jews, the gypsies, and anybody else I don't like. So they're going.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And every German knew it, and everybody in Europe knew it. And then Hitler, so did violate Treaty of Versailles, ended World War I, marched soldiers all over the place, and imposed the Third Reich from, as I said, the Arctic Circle, into North Africa. Nobody did anything about it. We didn't. President Roosevelt didn't want to get involved. Winston Churchill's pounding gay,
Starting point is 00:52:12 I help us, he got to help us. It was just Britain. That was it. They were alone. France, forget it. They surrendered like, you know, in record time. Scandinavia, we surrender. No.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Italy joined forces with HIPAA. Mussolini. Spain joined forces. Franco, not formally, but Franco was a fascist. And on and on and on and on. And everybody knew. This guy wanted to take over the world. He wanted to execute, exterminate people,
Starting point is 00:52:47 and he was going to take your country. He wasn't letting you the only country that he didn't take Hitler was Switzerland. Because it was so logistically hard to occupy that country with the Alps, And Hitler needed a financial outpost which Switzerland provided. Okay. So that is a perfect analogy of what we have here. Everybody knows that Iran sponsors terrorism at a mass level, and the authorities say that they are close to a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Not complicated. No, we don't do with it. Don't, no, no, no, no. Let them do what they want. Because that's the alternative, except for the Pope. The Pope's alternative is, well, we need more mediation, negotiation. I don't know how many times your holiness are you going to have chats. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I'm not opposed to that. opposed to that but is that a solution and it seemed to be now I'm not a war monger had a very interesting discussion with Hannity on his radio program you should listen to this on bill o're Riley.com because Hannity you know who's in Trump's camp and he's very critical of the Pope and Hannity and I grew up in the same neighborhood on Long Island you know not that close together, but in Nassau County, we both went to Catholic schools, and we know what the religion is.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And he and I were very much different on this issue with the Pope and Trump. And here is the key to this whole discussion. Both men are right. See, in America, we have a national sport, something. has to be wrong. Somebody has to be bad. We don't accept, well, we could have two points of view. Both are worthy.
Starting point is 00:55:12 We don't accept that. It's Republicans are good. Democrats are bad or vice versa. Liberals, conservatives, that's it. Both men, Leo and President Trump, are doing what they're supposed to do. Leo's a pacifist. So was Jesus.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Okay? He didn't want his followers to protect him when he was arrested. He told him to stand down, those who lived by the sword. Okay, yeah, he got a little upset when they were selling stuff in the temple. Jesus wasn't a milk toast,
Starting point is 00:56:02 but it was we're pacifists here, we turn the other cheek. That's what Christianity is. The Pope's doing his job. Trump's job is confrontational. It's to protect us from evil. And he's doing his job. Because as we pointed out last night,
Starting point is 00:56:32 Not a president in the last 50 years who would have taken on Iran. Jimmy Carter got waxed by them. That was the end of that. Reagan didn't do it. Bush the elder, Bush the younger. No, no, not doing it. Not doing it. No matter how bad they are.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Because it's such a mess over there. I said, look, I got a responsibility. These people have to go. They're too dangerous. He's doing his job. So if I could mediate between Leo and president, I could get them both to agree. They just go at it in different ways. Now, Hannity's point was that the Pope injects himself into public policy,
Starting point is 00:57:32 well he's got to explain that. And it's a valid point. If Pope Leo is going to say, no, no, no, no, don't go after Iran, then he's going to answer questions about Catholic Church okay with the Mullahseyev and nukes? Are they okay with 30,000 dead in Iran? because the Pope decided to inject himself into a political situation. Very rare. Very rare.
Starting point is 00:58:14 The last one was John Paul II, who actually went to Poland because he was Polish, as you remember, and demanded the Soviet Union start treating the Polish workers with dignity. That was a political move, and it worked. Solidarity, Soviet Union fell, John Paul be a saint. He was the only one in our lifetime. Okay? He injected himself in that political situation, but he explained it. Human dignity.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And then I brought up, and this is a pretty interesting analysis, I think you'll agree, that a Catholic church in America is different than the Catholic Church in Italy. So we're like a non-judgmental church here. And a lot of Catholics don't like that. They want the church to be more judgmental. And Hannity is one of those people. So I pointed out that, hey, President Biden violated every tenet of the Catholic religion. not only did he enable abortion, he promoted it. A great evil, according to Catholic Church, abortion. President of the United States promoted it.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Well, you didn't hear much about that. There were a few movements, one in Virginia, to ban President Biden from receiving communion. Same thing with Nancy Pelosi in San Francisco. but they never really got traction. And the Pope, who said it were, that was Francis. He didn't get involved with that. So there's a lot here. And I'm saying to myself, that always bothered me.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So Biden's going to go to church every Sunday and make a show out of it, which he did. Okay. And then he is a massive violator of Christian doctrine, Catholic doctrine, you don't say anything? And literally millions of babies never get to live? That's worse than Iran when you add up the numbers. Iran could be worse down the road, but you know what I'm talking about here. So the Catholic Church is not confrontational in that way. It isn't.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And it departs a little bit from the Nazarene. And remember, I wrote killing Jesus because he was confrontational. When he saw something that was obviously wrong, Jesus spoke out about it. and the Catholic leaders today aren't by and large. Now I'm going to try to get next week the smartest Catholic that I can get to debate the issue. This is not an easy booking because people know where I'm coming from. I know what I'm talking about. But again, I'm going to send missives to both.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I might see the president next week. I hope so. And I'll say, look, send me to Rome. I'll solve it. Because all good people should be united against these mullets. There shouldn't be this division. This helps them. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Okay, final thought. I'm down here doing some charity work in South Florida. And on Friday, I'm giving a speech, Q&A, to a Catholic church. A big one. That should be interesting. And it just happened. It just broke that way. I had this on my calendar for six months.
Starting point is 01:02:49 It just broke that way. And I'm not going to tell you what it is because I don't want, it's already sold out. And I don't want any, you know, chaos. but I'll report back on Monday and tell you what the reaction was at the Catholic Church and the Q&A is going to be pretty lively that's for sure I'm happy I'm here nice date today in South Florida and I'm very happy you took the time to watch and listen to the no-spin news new column on Sunday and we'll see you again on Monday
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