Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - April 19, 2025

Episode Date: April 19, 2025

Listen to this week's No Spin News interviews with Bishop Robert Barron and Eric Bolling. We also visit the No Spin News archives and Bill's conversation with Lara Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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this is. You know, you, if China loses the U.S. market, and I still believe there's going to be a detente here, it's hosed. It's just screwed. Because we have the money. We buy the stuff. The meleys aren't going to buy your stuff. They don't have any money. All right, so he's over there. Trump Economic Advisor Kevin Hassard says that dozens of tariff deals are going to be made shortly, and the quote is, the progress has been astonishing. Okay. Now, all of the other broadcasters, after I just reported that, would have said, we'll see. But I don't say we'll see because it's a cliche and it's stupid.

This is what President Trump is saying, told me directly. So Hasser is saying what the president is saying. Okay, let's get some other perspective on this. Now you may know Eric Bowling, don't bring him in yet. I just want to give his background first. So Eric Bowling, when I was at The Factor at Fox, he would sub for me, and the ratings would go down. But they went down for everybody.

That's up for me. But he did a decent job. I mean, you know, he ran a show. And then he was over at a couple of other places, but his background is in economics. And he was a board member of the New York Mercantile Exchange, big shot in oil and gas trading. So he knows the economic world. And he joins us now from West Palm Beach, Florida, where he airs daily on Real America's Voice, Dish, YouTube, all of that internet stuff. So, bowling, you okay down there in Florida?

You're right? We miss you down here, Bill. It's always good to have you in the studio walking around. You look a little like Mayner G. Krebs with the goatee, but that's all right. It's okay. That compliment was amazing, especially coming from the guy who I did sit in for over 250 times over 11-year period. So I must have been ratings went down, but they must not have gone down that much, Mr. Bill O'Reilly. You know, when Juan Williams sat in for me, they really went down.

But when you went, you weren't that bad. So look, I know you've had some discussions on your programs, and you, had some criticism about the tariffs. Where do you think they are now? So I stand firm, Bill. I'm a free market, true, like complete free market tier. I just believe the government shouldn't get their hands in any form of the markets.

Now I do, again, let me qualify that with, I am really, really rooting for the Trump tariffs to work. I hope they do. I'm hearing they are. As Kevin Hastert said, it's going to be astounding when they start telling us what they've gotten. and what they've received, my only issues, I just don't like government interfering in markets.

And when I mean government, I mean our government also. But if it's, again, if it's going to be used, I think they lost the messaging bill. Let me let me reframe this. It came out where we're gonna raise tariffs to the rest of the world to the level that they're charging us. And when they realize they can't do it anymore, their tariffs will come down and our tariffs will come down as well.

At some point, it turned to, well, they're all begging to kind of kiss the rain, the ring and come make a deal with us, which was the wrong message for me as a free marketeer. He got back on the message recently over the weekend and said, when they lower them, we'll lower them. And that's what I hope for. I hope for a global no tariff, or a global 10% across the board in two directions. Let's just cut through this. We have no control about China and what China's import tariffs are. We don't. So they can jack up their tariffs. And same thing with the EU.

Hans and Franz can buy stuff from the United States. We ship it over to Hans and Franz in Munich, and they slap a 20% VAT, value-added tax on it, which means Hans and Franz have to charge if they resell whatever they buy from us. They've got to slap 20% more on. American goods can't compete with the German-made goods. That's the game. We can't control it.

So free marketing is really a myth. It isn't free. It's not free anywhere. So what Trump wanted to do was basically say, we're not letting you rip us off anymore. We're the biggest market in the world. We have the most money, the most consumers who can't spend, and you're going to play fair.

It seems logical to me that that would be a good policy for the United States. But in order to get there, we have to suffer, and Americans don't want to suffer. That's where we are. Again, agree, and that is the theory, and I hope it works, and I really do. I hope it doesn't push us into a global recession, which theoretically could happen. And I'm not suggesting we continue to have a trade imbalance and have a trade imbalance, a tariff imbalance with these countries.

I'm simply saying there are ways to maybe negotiate other countries bringing down their tariffs. I'll give you an example. China charging us, whatever they want to charge us, whatever they've been charging us, because we don't even really know. We can talk about this number that they came up with with China's charging us at 32%, which, be honest with you, they made that up, but they used a different metric, not what they told us. Regardless, what we could do is China needs oil, we have a ton of oil, we can produce more oil. We can say, China, you lower your export tariff, your import tariff, your import tariff,

U.S. goods going to China, lower it to a reasonable number. Let's call it 20%, and we'll only put a 20% tariff on the oil. We'll send you, and we'll send you a ton of financial gas. That's what will eventually happen. But China isn't benign, okay? They don't want to give up their unbelievable trade advantage, not only with the United States, but everywhere else. They don't want to give it up.

But the mistake that I think the Trump administration made was this. They tried to do it too fast. Instead of knocking down Canada and Mexico, then go into the EU, then going to China, or whatever order you want to put it in. And along the way, explain every step to the American people, which they could have done, all right, instead of this tsunami all at once that panicked the worldwide markets that led to the stock market going down. They could have been a more gradual thing, and that's what I would have done. There's a third alternative. I agree with that. There's a third alternative where they could have come up with, okay, so we buy a lot of garbage trinkets, crap, we buy a lot from China. China, right? And we sell them technology and important goods and whatnot. We could have gone

out to the rest of the world, Taiwan, Vietnamese, you just mentioned them and say, you know what, you want to build a manufacturing plant there. We don't want to pay this 32%, 35% China tax anymore. We'll buy from you instead of them. Here it is. The United States is the wealthiest consumer. We're a huge buyer walking into a mall. The world is the mall. We have this massive credit card with the trillions of dollars of credit on it. And we go, you know what, that store, China right there is charging too much for the same thing I can buy from that store over there, Taiwan.

You know, I'm gonna go over there and watch what happens. China drops their tariff, drops their price to compete for us. Everyone wants our dollar. That's a more, I would call it, free market solution to drop in global tariffs. Okay, but that would be incredibly, incredibly complicated to do.

Now, Davidia out at Taiwan just announced today, it's going to build a big chip plant in the United States. That's a huge victory for the USA, by the way, enormous thing. Do you believe that? Do I believe that? Do I believe they will do it? Yes, I do believe that, because you made the deal. The CEO made the deal directly with Trump.

No, it's inconceivable that they wouldn't do it now. Well, so Apple says we're going to do a half a trillion dollars, we're going to build here. These CEOs are catering, they're kow-towing. to Howard Lundick and the group and making a lot of promises. But we don't know if they're, I hope they do. And by the way, that's 10 years down the road, Bill. It's not, Nick. You don't build a chip manufacturing plant in the next two or three years.

Look, the reason I believe it will happen is Trump can hurt them. Yes, Trump is out come 2008, but he can hurt them now if we don't see progress and fast progress. And he will. you go back on a deal with Trump, he's going to find a way. Anyway, Boland, we're glad you're doing well down there. Retribution or revenge? If you lie to the president of the United States about intentions, that's retribution. You know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, came on me.

That's retribution. Glad you're doing well down there in South Florida bowling. We love it, Bill. Right, we'll talk soon again. Thanks for helping us out. This MailChimp-Ferrific jingle is brought to you by MailChimp. MailChimp, Your Marketing with AI and more. Advanced automations to connect to your store.

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Robert Barron, you may know him because he's a very successful social media operation called Word on Fire, okay, which is worth checking out even if you're not Catholic. So is the church in America going to get involved with this in Colorado? Well, it might. We've been involved in similar struggles in different states. You look at my home state here in Minnesota. We're a sanctuary state, which means that you can take a kid from his parents in a state other than Minnesota, bring him here, and despite the parents' objections, they can do all this gender-affirming business. We've been opposing it. There have been similar things I was out in

California as an auxiliary bishop, and we were fighting these battles. It's a real ideological struggle because, I mean, the church stands athwart this very modern sense of everything depends upon freedom. You know, we just get rid of any objective normativity. We say it's all a matter of personal free choice. Even a child choosing its gender. I mean, it's beyond absurd, but it's also a deeper moral problem about human nature

and this weird primacy we've given to freedom of choice. And the church, I think, is the strongest, most articulate organization standing against this business. But you've got to organize and do something formal so the American people know that there is opposition to what Colorado is doing. And I have not seen that bishops so far. Yeah, I mean, in some of the states, the bishops conferences get together. We'll have our meeting in June.

And sometimes these issues come up and we try to find an organized, you know, response. But usually it takes place at the state level, the state conference level, is where the bishops tend to engage these things. We just met as Minnesota bishops with the governor, Governor-Governor Walls, and with the top leadership in Minnesota. We laid out all the concerns that we have about these various things. So I think that's really where the battle usually is joined at the state conference level. Okay, but that's all well and good. But the mobilization of the American people, I think most Americans would find this law barbaric in Colorado. Okay, two to one. If you pulled it, two to one,

they go, you can't allow children to not tell their parents are going to have a surgery to change their gender. That's just off the chart. But there doesn't seem to be any logical or apparent opposition to this. Now, when you're in a situation where the Colorado law basically is saying we don't care about the Hyde Amendment, the Hyde Amendment was passed because you can't, the United States government, according to the Constitution, can't force somebody of conscience a Catholic, to fund something that's a sin in a Catholic religion. That's as simple as that, all right? You can't force, it's a freedom of religion issue.

Right. Can't take the money. We've been opposing that stuff for years. Right. Now, we've been very articulate and clear, I think, in our opposition to this stuff for years, trying to carve out these conscience protection clauses. And as I say, I fought this now in three different states as a priest and as a bishop. And we raised it a lot at the national level.

I'm on the Bishops Committee for Religious Liberty, and that's how we name this. It's precisely a religious liberty free exercise issue. Well, I don't believe that right now in the USA, and I could be wrong, but I follow these kinds of stories very closely, that it's an organized opposition. You say state by state, okay, but Trump is the guy that's knocking the DEI out, that's not going to woke out, It's telling the states you can't do transgendered men competing against women in sports. It's a secular thing. Trump is doing it. And he's doing it for political reasons because the MAGA people want that.

But there doesn't seem to be a religious alliance with Trump there. Well, I'm chair of the Bishops Committee on Laity Youth and Family Life, and I've issued a couple of statements supporting those moves of Trump, especially in the gender area, especially in men and women's sports and all that. came out against him in terms of in vitro fertilization. So I spoke as chair of that committee. See, the way the church is organized, power is concentrated really in the individual bishop

and maybe in the state conference. At the national level, sometimes we don't approach the questions at that level. It's more the individual bishop in his diocese or the state conference. Also, I try to do it through preaching. So I use the means I have a communication to talk about these things.

I've been battling wokeism for years. I've been speaking out against it like crazy, and I have a lot of enemies because of it. But I've chosen to use this means of social communication I've got to- What's your objection to, whoa? What's your objection to it? It's fundamentally unjust, and it's a fundamentally racist point of view. It's grounded in a European postmodern philosophy

that's really pugnant to Catholic social teaching, which is not an antagonistic social theory, but one based upon cooperation. I'm a Martin Luther Kingman, right? We're judged by the content of our character, not the color of our skin. And this returned to a very racialized understanding and a very antagonistic understanding of society. I think all of that is repugnant to Catholic social teaching. So I've been against it for years.

Okay. So we're in Holy Week now. And the surveys say that church going not only for Catholics, but for everybody, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, the whole across the board, is on the decline, vast decline, and the elevation of atheism and people who don't care, agnostics, is on the rise? Is there one thing that you could point to that has shifted us from a traditional society to a sexual society? Meet the most capable CRV Honda has ever dreamed up, the all-new CRV trail sport hybrid. terrain tires and available enhanced traction control. It's built for wherever the day takes you.

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Drop by or visit us at shanko.com. Shane Company, your friend and jeweler. Well, of course, we've adopted largely this kind of, I call it, culture of self-inventure. So instead of looking at objective normativity and objective value, we just say it's a matter of my choice to create reality. And so the great opponent of that is belief in God. If you believe in God, you believe in a supreme objective value and then arranged hierarchically under that or the other objective values, you get rid of God, you get rid of that whole framework

and all you're left with then is the freedom to invent reality. That's the ideology we're up against. That's another face of wokeism, by the way. But that's the struggle, you know. I would contest a bit. There are certainly indicators over the past 30 years of this great decline. In more recent years, though, there have been some more encouraging signs of revival in religious belief, especially among young people and especially young men.

Just recently, I saw a study in both France and England. Numbers have gone up rather dramatically in terms of those joining the church. We still have a massive problem, and I've been tracing that for the past many years. the disaffiliation from the churches has been proceeding apace. But there are some hopeful signs, I'd say, in recent years. All right. A lot of it is the media portraying religious people as fanatics. And, you know, secular media dominates in America and in Europe as well,

that, you know, if you're going to church, there's something wrong with you. And, you know, the atheists get all the attention. All right, Bishop, we really appreciate your point of view. Word on fire. can people get that one? Tell us how we can go word on fire.org and you can find all kinds of resources there, sermons and podcasts and articles and so on. All right. And we appreciate your work and I hope we can talk again soon. Thank you. Here's a gem from the No Spin News Vault. So now let's turn to the inside Republican situation. As you know, I'm an independent. I'm not

associate with any party. Don't really follow the party politics very much unless someone inside either party starts to hurt you. Then I rapidly get involved. The Republican Party is in the middle of a changeover from Ronna McDaniel, who is the chair of the RNC. And now, as of last Friday, You have Michael Watley and Lara Trump, who is President Trump's daughter-in-law. She joins us now from Washington. So when I heard first that you were going to do this, I went, why would anybody want this job? I mean, I know you want your father-in-law to be back in the Oval Office. That's obvious.

But you have a family, you got kids, and this is like 24 hours a day. This never stops, right? Well, you're right, Bill. I mean, to be honest with you, it's not a job that I ever wanted or a job that I ever really thought I would pursue, but I also never thought that our country would be in such dire straits. And we truly are. I think you really have seen us in a space in America where if this election coming up on November 5th goes the wrong way and Joe Biden ends up with four more years in the Oval Office, I really don't know what kind of country we have on the other side of that. So yeah, I have two young children. They're four and six. six years old. I have a lot of things that I'm busy with all the time, but nothing is more important to me than ensuring that their future is set up well and that every American child gets to grow up in the same America I got to grow up in. So when my father-in-law called and he said, would you do this? To be honest with you, I thought about it and I had to think long and hard about it. And then I said, you know what, if I'm the best person for this job and this is the

best use of my time over the next eight months, absolutely I'm a yes. Okay. What does the R&C actually do besides raising money. I mean, we know you raise money, and you're going to have to raise a lot of it in the next eight months to compete with the Democrats, which, you know, that's a money donating machine over there. But what else does the R&C do beside raising money? Rayband meta glasses are powered by MetaI so you can get real-time answers. Hey, meta.

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Iconic style meets meta-a-I. If you're thirsting for no, we aren't there yet, kids won't stop crying. We brought snacks, but they wanted other snacks. Stop pulling each other's hair, and we made it 14 minutes with no screens-level refreshment. we definitely have that swing by circle k and get a polar pop for just 79 cents only for inner circle members when you're feeling the heat circle k makes your day well look you don't win the presidency without the support of the republican national committee the reality is this is a committee that's been around so long. It's obviously one of the two major political parties in this country,

and they have an apparatus across the country in every state, in every district around the United States of America. And so once you have a nominee named, which obviously Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, you need the apparatus of the RNC to help all across the country in different districts. You got to be specific now. I mean, okay, to help, all right, Got it. But how do you do that? I mean, do you, one of the reasons that Donald Trump lost to Joe Biden, to me, and I'm pretty, I've been around like a long time since U.S. Grant, was that the Democrats were better organized in getting out the mail and ballots and all of this stuff, okay? So they mobilized more people to the polls than the Republicans did. And they did that in a variety of ways. They had a lot of money from Mark Zuckerberg,

hundreds of millions of dollars to hire people to go out. How is the RNC going to compete against that in November? Yeah, well, the truth is, you're right, Bill. We have not been playing the game the same way. We have been playing checkers and the DNC and the Democrats have been playing chess. We have to fight fire with fire. And you're right, as Republicans, we've had this notion for a long time. We're going to go out and I'll vote on Election Day.

And it would be great if we had voter ID across the country. It would be great if we had paper ballots. We don't have those things. We know Election Day starts in some states months ahead of November 5th. We have to start talking to people on the Republican side of the aisle about early voting, about mail-in voting. What does that mean? Does that mean you hire local people to do that, like the Democrats? do? What exactly are you going to do?

Well, there's a whole host of different ways. First of all, messaging has to be go vote early. For a long time, we never told people that. We said, wait until election day. So the messaging is going to change. We are hiring people like legal ballot harvesters all across this country to go everywhere you legally can and harvest ballots. What does that mean, though, harvest valid?

Does that mean convince people to vote a certain way? Is that what harvest about? Not on the Republican side, perhaps on the Democrat side, they may help you fill it out. What ballot harvesting is is literally going to an area where you can have a contingent of people, a group of people. You take their ballots and then you take it to a designated location and turn them in. They bring their ballots to the VFW Hall and then the RNC has somebody at the hall who takes those ballots physically and brings them to the voting precinct.

That's what ballot harvesting is. And you're going to do that now. in a much more aggressive way than you did it four years ago. Is that what I'm hearing? That's exactly right. We're going to turn out low propensity voters. These are people who maybe only vote in one out of every four presidential elections, but every time they will vote Republican.

We're going to target these people using a bunch of different software and AI technology that perhaps we hadn't had in the past. But I think the most important thing we have to do is protect the vote. Election integrity is something that every person in this. do that though how do you protect the vote well look we have a whole host of different lawyers that are going to be spread out across the country these some of these are paid we are also asking for volunteer attorneys to be in every polling location polling places because you know you can't it's against the law to politic at polling places so you're going to have people observing we can't

have eyes on the ground legally you can have poll watchers we will have trained poll watchers this This is something the RNC has never done. These are people who can actually count the ballots going in, ballots going out, handle them, and really assure people that every single legal vote in this country is counted. Because Bill, if we don't have election integrity, nothing else ultimately matters. You're going to be hiring a lot of people, Lara. We sure will. You got to compete.

Our final question, I think that one of the reasons, and you know that I've known your father-in-law a lot longer than you have. Yes. of the reasons he chose you, and I could be wrong, I'm just guessing he never discussed it with me, is because you are articulate and a good fundraiser and they can throw you out into Kansas and Montana to raise money. And that's what you're going to be doing a lot of it. Am I right? Oh, I certainly will be raising a lot of money. And I think the reality is there are people across this country who maybe at one time donated to the RNC and have said, look, I don't really know if I trust this organization over the past five or six years or so. And I think

one of the things that has been my focus is to ensure that every penny of every dollar goes to the causes that people who donate care about. Of course, electing Donald Trump at the top of the ticket, but all the way down, we've got to expand our lead in the House, take back the Senate, and make sure we have America First Patriots running for all these positions and supporting them. That's what I'll be focused on. Well, you're going to be one busy woman. I can say much. Your will. If you run into Jeffrey Katzenberg, who's doing what you're doing on the other side, I mean, he's the big money man for Biden. You're going to say anything to Katzenberg? You're going to give him a little jab? What are you going to do? I would be very nice and very pleasant because

you always want to be nice to people when they're on their way out. Okay. Larry Trump, thank you very much to taking time. We really appreciate it. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend edition. To watch the full episodes of the no-spin news, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com. Sign up and start watching today.