Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - April 27, 2024

Episode Date: April 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Trump himself urges his supporters to demonstrate against the trial. Here's what he said on true social yesterday, quote, America-loving protesters should be allowed to process front of courthouses all over the country, just like it allowed for those who are destroying the country on the radical left. Two-tiered system of justice, free speech, and assembly has been chilled for USA's supporters go out and peacefully protest, rally behind MAGA, save our country. The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Okay, Donald Trump, choose so chill. Joining us now from New York City is a colleague of mine because we both work somewhat at WABC radio, the most powerful radio station in the world right now. Rudy Giuliani is the former mayor of New York City from 1994 to 2000. in 21. All right, I got lots of questions for you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you for appearing today. I know you're busy.
Starting point is 00:01:06 When you were the U.S. prosecutor, the federal prosecutor, in the Southern District in New York, before you became mayor, this case against Trump never would have happened, right? Against anyone, no. It's not a case, Bill. I mean, it's not a case in so many different ways. It's hard to describe. it's a state misdemeanor, which is barred by the statute of limitation,
Starting point is 00:01:37 but for the fact that Bragg says it was done in pursuance of a more serious crime, a felony, but that's a federal felony, which he doesn't have the right to prosecute. And the Fed said, we're not going to prosecute it. We all know the basis of the case, and really nobody is disputing what you see. say. We all know this is being done for political reasons. But my question was more, the atmosphere in the city of New York was so much different back when you were mayor. And you never would have seen anything like this. Am I wrong? No, I don't think you're wrong. I have a hard time believing some of these things are going on, Bill. I get up in the morning and I say,
Starting point is 00:02:19 is this really happening? 10, 20 years ago, I would have thought, somebody told me these things were happening, there was some kind of nutty conspiracy theorists. Plus, they let the crime get back, which I honestly didn't think they could do, not just after me, but after Bloomberg. Well, I'm going to get to that in a moment. But the key question for people who don't live in and around New York City is, what happened? What happened to make a city that was run fairly efficiently at the state
Starting point is 00:02:55 and local level, the largest city in the country, to the chaos that we have now. Is it the people's fault for voting for these far left, like Alvin Bragg? Whose fault is this? Ultimately, it has to be the people's fault, right? They selected DeBosio, they selected Adams, they selected the people who passed the bill in 2019, everybody out of jail. Since 2019, 38 cop killers have been released from jail. There are about 7,000 to 8,000 people on the street right now in New York that if the laws
Starting point is 00:03:31 I had in effect weren't changed would be in jail. So I mean, that's a simple explanation. So it's the folks voting for people who are having destructive policies that are boomeranging back on the same folks and hurting everybody. Now, you could run for mayor again. I don't know whether you've ever considered that, but you could do it. So let's say you ran for mayor and you won. Could you clean this city up or is it beyond repair?
Starting point is 00:04:03 We could clean it up. I'm not sure we could do it as quickly or as completely as before because the permanent changes have taken place. Even in the electorate, the Democrat majority in the city, although in numbers about the same, is much more radical than it was. much more prone to consider Republicans, to vote for Republicans. I mean, I had 70% of the Jewish vote. I don't know if a Republican could get 70% of the Jewish vote anymore. Maybe now, maybe with the changes that I'm seeing in the Hispanic vote in particular, maybe I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:04:43 changes in the black vote. I've got to see it first before I believe it. It would be harder to do now than it was then. But you could do it, sure. But if you were, or somebody like you wins next time around, you're still going to have the no bail law. You're still going to have violent criminals, people found with guns, all right, released hours after the police arrest them. You're still going to have low police morale because the police are disrespected by the city council. And, you know, you're elected, but the city council is as radical a council as there is in America. They hate the cops.
Starting point is 00:05:25 They don't want public order. They want what they have, which is disorder everywhere and fear. They want that. How do you beat that? How do you beat it? Change the morale of the police pretty quickly by being on their side. I mean, the minute I became mayor last time, I told them I'm on your side. You're going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:05:48 If you have to do something that's tough, do it. I'll be there with you. I demonstrated that to them two or three times, got my head kicked in politically, but gained the eternal loyalty of the police. They knew I wasn't going to let them get hung out to dry. Then there are a lot of things you can do administrative. You can emphasize smaller crimes that you know are going to net you a lot of really bad people. Like when we went and got the squeegee guy, Brandon and I,
Starting point is 00:06:20 half of them were wanted for violent felonies. So if you really understand law enforcement, you know where to go to make your arrest. That's true, but they're back out on the street in hours, and the criminals look upon the criminal justice system in New York. Is it a joke? Is it causing you in business? I appointed 100 judges. It's going to take a while, but over a period of time, if you give me four years,
Starting point is 00:06:46 I'll put 40 or 50 new judges on, and that won't be happening. Plus, the minute the judges know the mayor is going to... Remember when Koch used to have those press conferences, I just copy them. When a judge did something wrong, you'd have a big press conference. He'd rip the judge apart. I used to do the same thing. I just copy Kosh. It works.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Now, you and I stood out for three hours at the funeral of Detective Diller four weeks ago on Long Island. You and I were there. Adams was there he didn't stand out with us but Letitia James, the Attorney General at New York, did did you say anything to the Attorney General while you were
Starting point is 00:07:31 standing there? Oh, I didn't and I know her too. I mean, I know her for a long long time. I didn't say anything to her because I was not sure I would I'm not sure how I would have handled it. I mean I consider her kind of like beyond the pale for having run as a hitman, basically. I mean, she ran for attorney general just to prosecute one person.
Starting point is 00:07:54 He's a terrible attorney general. He's destroying the system of justice than me. Very, very hard for me to deal with her objectively, and I was glad we never had a hit. That's a good point. She acknowledged me. I acknowledge your back, but I didn't pass any worse. Adams is trying to walk a tightrope between the far left and the people who want to be safe. Is he succeeding? No. You can't do it. Right now, at least on the issues we're talking about, the economy, quality of life, and crime, you've got to be single-minded.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And you can't put up with all this nonsense. When I came in, Bill, I introduced Workfare. I required everybody on welfare to work. At the time, I got Hillary, the New York Times said I was running a plantation because most of them were black. And I just laughed at it and said, you know, I'm going to have to go through this. Now, he would change it if they did that to him. He can't. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I mean, I want more from Mayor Adams than I'm getting. All right. Let's go national here. If you had to do it all over again, would you have become the point person for the election fraud cadres? And I'm asking that because that boomerang back on you in a horrendous way. It has punished you financially, court of public opinion. Would you have done it differently had you, if you could get a do-over on the election fraud? I don't think I could, Bill. I don't think I had the choices to do it different. Would I do it again? Sure. Would I do it differently? Some different strategies maybe?
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. Maybe I would have gone to the legislator first and not wasted the time in court. I didn't realize how dead set against us the court would be. And I thought the worst decision we made was to litigate some of those cases. I thought the best decision I made was to pull them from the courts and to go to the legislatures. where we now have a historical record of the treating they did. I was afraid this thing would be buried for history. And remember, I had just come out of their censoring the hard drive,
Starting point is 00:10:17 which I knew was accurate as hell, being accused of being a Russian agent. And every newspaper agreeing with that. So I realized we didn't have much room to litigate. But I had more confidence in the courts than I should have. And I like the strategy of going to the legislature. The core strategy, unfortunately, backfired, and it was a waste of time. Well, not only a waste of time, but it wreaked destruction on your whole life. See, I said very, very quickly that this whole fraudulent allegation thing should have been handed over to Attorney General Barr, and he should have, at Trump's direction, appointed a special.
Starting point is 00:11:04 counsel to look into the vote of fraud coast to coast. Now that's what I would have done. Trump and Barr did not do it, instead relying on you and Sidney Powell and other people who got killed in the process. And I think that was a major mistake. I think the only way you could shed light on this, with 50 states being in charge of their individual vote count, the only way would be a massive federal investigation.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Am I wrong? You're right, that'd be the best way to do it. We were not going to get that. You remember, I knew. Why? You had a president and an attorney general sitting there. Why wouldn't you get it?
Starting point is 00:11:48 All Trump had to do was to tell Barr appoint a special counsel. Bar didn't do it. Fire him. He had an attorney general that was sitting on the hard drive. Well, fire him then. He got a chunk of a fired bar.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It was something serious. wrong with Bill Bartow, we didn't realize. You don't sit on that hard drive for a year. The hard drive proves about 100 crimes against Joe Biden. It proves that Trump never should have been impeached in the first place because it shows the reason for the impeachment. All right. So you're in the weeds now. People don't know what the hard drive says and it hasn't been. It's a very complicated situation. But my solution is very easy. Trump picks up the phone. He tells Barr we're going to have a special counsel. says, no, I don't want it. Bar is fired because ultimately Barr quit and Trump appointed another
Starting point is 00:12:40 guy in there. I mean, there was thought of firing Barr. He didn't want to do it. He didn't want to fire Barr. Okay, that was a huge mistake. Huge. Well, maybe in retrospect it was, but I mean, the reality is maybe the reality is that there's a accountability here by Bill Barr that's being completely ignored. Okay, but that's always going to be the case because he can make his own case My investigator is did, did, did, did. All right, I got one more thing here. I've known you for, I don't know, I think it's got to be 35 years. I felt bad or feel bad in the present tense for what's happened to you.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And financially, I mean, this has cost millions of millions of dollars for you to defend yourself. So you have a website. I want you to tell folks what it is if they want to help you out. I think you were a target that the far left in the federal apparatus wanted to make an example of you, and they had. They, you know, I mean, right. I'm going to fight back. I'm going to continue to fight back. And if you want to help me, you can do it at Rudy Giuliani, c.com.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Very simple. That's where you can get me. C.S. C as in cat, essence, and Sam? Yes, for common sense. Rudy Giuliani, one word, your name, dot. C.S.com? Is that what it is? County, c.s.com.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Okay. That's easy. Common sense. All right, Mr. Mayor, we appreciate it. Thanks for appearing, and we know you're very busy. Thank you again. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver.
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Starting point is 00:15:21 Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't. So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2 p.m. East Coast every day. Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So the evangelical vote is firmly in the Trump camp.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And my question is why? Trump is a libertine. If you read the United States, the Trump, the book I wrote on him, he does what he wants to do. He's not constrained by the Bible or religious tenets. Does what he wants. Everybody knows that. Doesn't mean he can't govern, doesn't mean he's a bad person.
Starting point is 00:16:27 person, he's a libertine. Okay, poll, Fox News last February on evangelicals. So, do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Donald Trump? They ask the evangelical community. Favorable 65% unfavorable 34. That's a big number. Okay? How would you vote if the candidates were Biden and Trump?
Starting point is 00:16:55 So Biden 47, Trump 49. That's total. That's total. Okay. Evangelicals, Biden 28, Trump's 68. Beats Biden by 40 points. Joining us now is an evangelical, all right? But he's also already a talk show host, and he's got a new book out.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Twilight's last gleaming, can America be saved? I've known Todd Starnes.com for a long time. I just recently met the dot com, but I've known Todd as a human being for, I hope. He joins us from Memphis, Tennessee. All right, so you might expect, with Donald Trump's flamboyant life, multiple marriages, you know, he runs around, does what he wants, as I said, that evangelicals might look askance at him. Why is that not happening?
Starting point is 00:17:55 It's a great question. And Bill, I remember back in 2015 when then Mr. Trump had invited all of these evangelicals to come to New York City there at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square. And I was there in that meeting when it was basically an opportunity for some of these big religious leaders to ask some pretty pointed questions of Donald Trump. And look, it was clear that he's not a holy roller. He is certainly not a Southern Baptist, but it seemed like he was able to really hit those issues that impact a lot of evangelical voters like myself. And look, it was a matter of faith for a lot of these evangelicals to step out and cast their vote for him back in 2016. And I'll be darned, Bill, if he didn't deliver on pretty much all of the promises he made to the evangelical community, standing up for the big issues like religious liberty, like the culture war issues that you really brought to the forefront of the nation's conscious with the going back to the war on Christmas.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Okay, so Trump governed in a fairly conservative manner, socially speaking. That's true. So that's enough to override his private life? I think so. And the reason why, and you mentioned earlier, on. I happen to be a Baptist, and like you, I'm a sinner saved by grace. And I think we've all seen that in our lives. I mean, we know the president's not perfect. But going back to the issues of governance, you know, when you look at our founding documents, and I write about this in Twilight's Last Gleaming, our foundational freedom in this country is freedom of religion. Everything else is built on top of that freedom. And I think we've seen that freedom come under assault for many years now. And I was very happy to see the president coming into office and really helping to shore up
Starting point is 00:19:52 and bringing to the table a lot of the evangelical leaders, pastor like Pastor Robert Jeffers or Tony Perkins from Family Research Council. That really said a lot to me because these men were giving President Trump good, good and wise and biblical counsel. All right, but he's doing that because he knows that they're going to get him votes. I don't want to be cynical about it, but I know Pastor Jeffers, very well. And, you know, Trump went out of his way to bolster him in Dallas, and there was a reason why. But when, in the next few weeks, we're going to hear Stormy Daniels, you don't get much, I don't even know what word to use here, but you don't get much more dubious than Ms. Daniels. And another one is going to
Starting point is 00:20:45 to come in from Playboy and they're going to describe stuff that's going to be pretty shocking to religious-based people. And how do you think the reaction is going to go down? Well, I think, you know, I think a lot of evangelicals have seen a lot of that fornication on TV. And look, I think I think there is there is something to that as far as this is an issue for some people. But I think by and large, Bill, I think the average American voters are going to dismiss all of this. They see it as nasty, ugly politics. They see it as smears. And at the end of the day, I go back to something President Trump said a couple of weeks ago. He was catching a lot of heat for promoting the God bless the USA Bible, this special gift Bible. And I think the problem was not
Starting point is 00:21:38 necessarily promoting this Bible, which had been in existence for a couple of years, but it was what he said afterwards, where he said that if we really want to make America great, we've got to get back to church, we've got to get back to praying, and we've got to get back to reading the Bible. And I thought that was really quite unique and interesting. Come on, Todd, anybody can say that. You know, politicians are politicians. I'm not demeaning what he said, what Trump said, but that's easy to say. Now, the final question is what I'm going to do tomorrow is, Biden, Catholic, abortion. Okay. So evangelicals 100% are pro-life. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay. So you can't be an evangelical if you believe in abortion.
Starting point is 00:22:32 That would seem to override a stormy Daniels. To me, if I were an evangelical, I'm not. the abortion is so much more serious than any kind of thing that Trump may or may not have done with Ms. Daniels. But the press is never going to frame it that way, ever in a million years, will they do that? No, and I think that's a look, that's a fair assessment. And again, I'm with you. I'm not going to judge another man's relationship with God. But you look at President Biden and you wonder how in the world, can this man profess to be a practicing Catholic and then stand in sheer opposition to the pro-life movement?
Starting point is 00:23:16 It's more than that, Todd. He promotes it. Yes. He promotes it. The Biden-Harris ticket has made abortion noble. That's so far beyond the pale. I'm just stunned. But we'll get into that tomorrow. I want to read the audience. This is on page 251. you're wrapping up your book twilight's last gleaming you say i wrote this book so that god-loving patriots would no longer be silent in the face of evil why do you think so many evangelicals and other people of faith are silent they don't rise up you don't see mass demonstrations like you do on the left why well many of us have jobs so we can't take off you know to uh to go march on the
Starting point is 00:24:08 streets and burnt down things that's not who we are you know at the heart of an evangelical christian there's this idea uh that we are to be peaceful loving people which yes that's what we're called to do but we're also called to stand up in in the face of evil and there's the the great detrick bonhoffer quote silence in the face of evil is is evil itself i go back i got the title of the book from a ronald reagan speech he delivered making an observation about our national anthem bill you said our national anthem it starts with a question not with a declaration is the flag still flying can you still see the flag and that's really a question that every generation of i believe god-loving patriots will have to answer for we've got to stand up and i think christians um of all denominations
Starting point is 00:24:52 have a responsibility to stand up and be counted in the culture all right well todd the book is twilight's last gleaming we recommend it we appreciate your time tonight and i hope we talk again soon thanks for coming on power, politics and the people behind the headlines. I'm Miranda Devine, New York Post columnist and the host of the brand new podcast, Podforce One. Every week I'll sit down for candid conversations with Washington's most powerful disruptors, lawmakers, newsmakers and even the president of the United States.
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Starting point is 00:26:06 Ask your smart speaker to play the NY Postcast podcast. Listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Latest Biden-Trump poll, Maris College poll, 1,047 registered voters, evenly, be a teen Democrat-Republican. Who do you support? Biden 51, Trump, 48. So the polls have shifted a little bit
Starting point is 00:26:41 over the last week or so in Biden's favor. And joining us now from Washington is John McLaughlin. We've had him on before. He's a pollster. He's worked with Donald Trump since 2011. He's advised him. And he's been Trump's poster for eight years.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Wow. I think you're one of the longest-running Trump guys. They usually Trump throws you into the Potomac or, you know, how he is. Would you have survived with him? So we just gave the Marist poll numbers, and it looks like there's a shift nationally, and Biden is kind of just creeping ahead by a little.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It's still within the margin of error. But what do you attribute that to? Well, first of all, we have a poll that Trump in March was up 49-43 nationally. We do 1,000 likely voters. In April, as of Friday, we posted, Trump was up 49 to 45. So Biden went up two points,
Starting point is 00:27:41 and he got them from Undecides, and the Undecides went down a little. Well, we still have them up, but it's apples to oranges. That Maris poll that you're talking about was not likely voters. It was done among 1,192 adults, And then they screen the adults for registered voters.
Starting point is 00:28:03 So when you think of the universe in the United States, you have 260 million eligible adults who could vote. And you have only 160 million came out in the last presidential race, which was a record compared to 139 million in 2016. So they're coming down from a much bigger universe. And they also, when you go through it, when you look at, they have a little higher level of, college graduates. They also have what's interesting is they have Biden's disapproval much lower than the other polls like 5051, depending on the universe of registered voters. I don't put much credence in the merits polling. They're associated with the NPR, and we know what NPR is now. I don't think this poll was taken in conjunction with them, but I'm not, I don't think this is a
Starting point is 00:28:52 solid poll historically speaking, but NBC came out over the weekend with pretty much the same. And I I don't know whether we are seeing a trend away from Trump, perhaps because of his trial. Do you see any trends developing? By the way, I'll give you one last point on that. The also the Maris poll said they asked who they voted for in 2020, because we model our poll for the turnout of the 160 million in the actual race. But then they don't tell you in the demographics what vote they had. So they may have a lot more Biden voters than the actual 4% that,
Starting point is 00:29:29 these other polls have like NBC and stuff. But the core of the problem right now is Trump went up, we won a record historic primary in March, where Trump certainly got some benefit from that where his numbers, he often kids and says, you know, he's better numbers than Washington or Lincoln. Well, he had better numbers than Ronald Reagan and better results than Ronald Reagan.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And it was historic primary victory the way he won Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina and sealed the nomination. Wasn't even close. So we got a little bump out of that. And he was playing aggressive offense against Joe Biden all that time, all through the primaries.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Now, okay, we won the primaries, we got the nomination. What happens? They put us in court. They are tying Donald Trump. And by the way, you know, 66% of all voters in my poll that we released Friday say that politics played a role
Starting point is 00:30:26 in the Trump indictments. another 56% say Biden played a role. They get it. They know that Colangelo, who's doing the prosecution for Bragg, was the number three guy in the Biden administration justice department, and they sent him to Bragg to bring this indictment of Trump. Look, I don't think there's any question about the unfairness of this, but the question for you and for Trump is the ill-informed
Starting point is 00:30:57 American, and there are, you know, tens of millions, they kind of go with the flow. And if they see a trend developing toward Biden, that's going to help Biden. Last word. Well, what they're doing is this is a strategy. It's not an accident. Four indictments. They want four convictions. They want to put Trump in jail.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And what's in the immediate happening right now is they're taking Trump off message. cannot campaign around the country, talk about inflation, talk about the border, talk about rising crime, talk about these endless wars that Biden's getting us into. So we don't have the campaign we had a month ago. We are bogged down by the Biden supporters and Biden penchant. So that's what's going on. We need Trump to get back on the stump and go back to the battleground states to win this. But first, he's got to defend his freedom, defend his integrity from people letter to put them in jam. Well, the whole thing is unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:32:00 John, we're going to check in with you like once a month. I hope you don't mind and we'll make the time for us. In September, that's when it really kicks in. Summer is going to be, and I think something big is going to happen. As I said, I don't know what it is. So, John, thanks very much. You're a good guy. You always help us out, and we really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Here's a gem from the No Spin News Vault. So when Putin decided to invade Ukraine, which was ridiculously foolish, and that was on February 24, 22, okay, he hired the Wagner group, not his own armed forces to be the speartip of the invasion. And the Wagner group are ruthless. They don't take prisoners. They shoot every. everybody, they kill women and children. You know, it's the SS. That's what it is. No rules, no accountability, nothing. And they're paid very, very well.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And a lot of the units are made up of criminals who Putin allows out of prison, violent criminals, to be in the Bogner group. Well, anyway, on Friday, for whatever reason, and there's a many given, Prygosen, rebels against poop. Okay? And he turns his army around, and they go into Russia, and they capture a city of some size.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And the word is they're going to march to Moscow to depose the Russian minister of defense. But they stop yesterday, Sunday, and there's some deal made. And again, nobody really knows the ins and outs of all of this because there's no reporting on it. It's not like reporters are doing it. But Belarus, which is a Putin satellite, brokered a deal where the Wagner group would stop, and then Mr. Pregozen would seek safe harbor in Belarus. Well, if I were Mr. Raygozen, that's a little too close.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So you wait and see what happens to him. It depends who goes first, him or Putin. They're both going to go. Okay, so we have the story. This just happened. But the repercussions for us, you might be in there, Oklahoma, watching me, or Montana, or British Columbia, or Japan, or wherever. This affects you, this whole thing. And let me tell you why.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Okay, so in the beginning of this Russian invasion of Ukraine, I knew it wasn't going to work. Because I know a lot about the world and the news. And here's what I said on January 31st go. Putin's on the ropes now inside Russia. We don't get reporting because unlike here, if you are a Russian citizen and you bring this into a demonstration, you're in jail. I think Putin may go down this year because of this war because he's losing it so badly. But the only way he goes down is if the Russian people take him out. All right. So that was six months ago, and it wasn't a Russian people. I could not have predicted the Wagner group would turn on Putin. But all of Putin's allies, the most important being China, are looking at Putin's weakness. There are reports, again, we have no idea that the Russian army didn't try to prevent the Wagner group from taking the Russian city, Rastab, I think.
Starting point is 00:35:47 it is. And they didn't have any problem, the Wagner Group, advancing 120 miles outside of Moscow. Okay, again, the reporting you got to be skeptical about. But this is a humiliation for Vlad. And as far as the Ukraine war goes, he's done. Who's going to fight it? The Russian military can't fight it. They need these murderers to do the dirty work. Because the Russian army is so weak. So the Ukrainians are like, all right, we're going to counterattack and we're going to retake all the territory and all its business. And then China's going, we didn't figure this was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:36:31 So whenever you do something like that, whenever you make that kind of a bold move that involves conflict and violence, unintended consequences will arise. So if China invades Taiwan, believe me, there are going to be unintended consequences for China and the world that are just going to be staggering as Putin is finding out with Ukraine. Now, here in the United States, there are apologists for Putin.
Starting point is 00:37:02 It's incredible. There's no doubt Putin violated international war and is a war criminal. It's tens of thousands of women and children are dead. And millions of people are, displaced because of Putin, one guy. Yet, there are people who go on television stick up for. Go. The truth is coming out that this war was not started by Russia, that Russia begged us not to try and drag Ukraine into NATO. We ignored Russia, and Russia made it very clear that they
Starting point is 00:37:37 were going to defend their national interest. All they wanted was neutrality for Ukraine. I mean, that guy is just, I can't even believe that he was allowed, that kind of a forum. It's staggering. Robert Kennedy Jr. And he's going to have a town hall on News Nation Wednesday, and I'll be doing the pregame show on that. Robert Kennedy Jr. is sticking up. Stick it up for Putin. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I have no idea why he would do that. but and you know there are the people as well so wrapping this thing up a disaster for vladimir Putin his credibility as a fearsome leader is shot pardon the pun good thing for ukraine and the world because russia's power is weakened but there will be more to come here not over by any means. So I walked to the pitching mound and signaled to the bullpen for the big right-hander, Colonel David Hunt, our go-to military guy, who joins us now from Scarborough, Maine. Did I report and analyze that succinctly, Colonel? Yeah, you read my talking points perfectly. Well done. It was very well done.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah, no, that's, that's, yes, for example, the town you, Rostov that he first takes, which is about 600 miles outside of Moscow, is the town that houses the Russian military unit headquarters that's running the Ukraine war. Not a shot's fired from there. You also mentioned 120 miles, 125 miles. That's a long way to go with tanks and artillery being towed, etc. And I think the distance is important because the Wagner Group Commander doesn't get any help from the Russian military, particularly from the logistics people, which he gets, Wagner gets all of his supplies from. It's possible to look at if he got 60 miles outside, he might have had more Russian group commanders join. But he didn't. And he cuts a deal.
Starting point is 00:40:01 you're right, he's not long for this world. What's very consistent about Putin is he kills everybody all the time who's against him. I think, I also think one other things. Go ahead. Putin's protected by almost 200,000 Vittorian guards.
Starting point is 00:40:24 That's a massive amount of soldiers to protect him. That's not easy to break through. Okay, but I don't know if they want Putin anymore. You know, this is such a humiliation. Yeah, no, nobody, yeah. Right. Who wants Putin? Nobody. So the Praetorian Guard, as Julius Caesar found out, could turn pretty quick. But let's advance the story. So now Putin doesn't have a spearpoint in Ukraine anymore. They're gone. This Wagner group is gone. They're not going to fight for him anymore in Ukraine. You can't. Their commander is gone. they're gone. These are all criminal thugs. They're probably deserting and running to get out of Russia
Starting point is 00:41:05 right now as we speak. The Wagner Group also has units in Africa and the Middle East. They cause trouble all over the world at the behest of Putin. They're paid to cause trouble in every country that Putin wants to destabilize. You would think that that would cease. So the Russian military footprint is weakened all over the world, not only in Ukraine and Russia, am I right? Absolutely, and it's a weakness during a counter-offensive by Ukraine that the West, led by us,
Starting point is 00:41:41 must drive a wedge through, and they only got about a week to 10 days to do that. Excuse me, Russia is in disarray, and that is a time to attack. the problem is we've still got to get the tanks and aircraft that we've promised Ukraine in there and they're not there yet okay and if I were Ukrainians I wouldn't be counting on them be there but as I wrote on my message of the day on Bill O'Reilly.com
Starting point is 00:42:10 which everybody should go every morning and read it's free for everybody you have a situation now where Putin is so weakened in the eyes of the tyrants she the mullers they're watching it. Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia. The nation that just puts that finger up to the wind. You know, they're kind of moving over there to Russia. Now, all of them are going to pull back. And Putin himself, there's no good news on the horizon for Vlad. I mean, how long you think he's got in there? Do you think he can hold on?
Starting point is 00:42:50 No, I think you've got within three months. I don't think this is, as you've mentioned, this story is not over. Advancing the story is how long does Putin have? How does this affect the war with Ukraine and Russia? Is the West capable of exploiting this weakness and stop talking about how weak Putin is? Excuse me, and get the new tanks and helicopters and the jets in there to make a difference and end this?
Starting point is 00:43:19 The answer is no, they're not. But we have good U.S. interest. U.S. Intel assets in Russia. We have the CIA, NSA. We pay them. They're all over the place, okay? So I think that the Biden administration, Biden himself, I don't even know if he knows it was a mutiny. But the U.S. Intel certainly does. And their job should be to foster as much chaos as possible inside Russia now to call on, you know, demonstrations and everything they can do just to create crisis after crisis after crisis, which they're pretty good at doing that, the American intel services. Yeah, there are actually units inside the intelligence
Starting point is 00:44:03 community, as you know, that they do it for it as a for a living. And you could go at the expat Russians, the Russians that are inside Russia don't want Putin. I think those are the guys we're flying the drones. I think you have to obviously expand that as you put pressure back on the Ukraine-Russian and try to get this a two-front war in which Putin feels pressure inside the border and outside the border. But that takes coordination and effort. And if they haven't planned this at a time, we're going to lose the opportunity. Yeah. I don't have any faith in the Biden administration's ability to deliver any hardware or NATO. But after writing killing the killers and i know you read that book the intel services are still pretty solid
Starting point is 00:44:47 about hunting down and hurting the bad guys despite putin's uh biden's incompetence uh there's still pretty solid there so we'll see would you please follow this and if you see anything you know as long as your you know black t-shirts are starched just let us know and we'll put you The problem, Bill, is you can't handle it. You can't wear this. You couldn't get close to this. You can't wear this. Yeah, I don't want to have a tourniquet under my jacket.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I don't want to do that. I mean, I know you're right. Colonel David Hunt, everybody, give him a round of applause. I hope you see you soon, Colonel. Thanks for opening us up. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the No Spin News, visit bill o'reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member that's bill
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