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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition.
Joining us now from Seafood, New York, which is an adjacent suburb to Massapequa.
Former Congressman Peter King, he served 14 terms in the House of Representatives, and he's a good man.
I sat with Congressman King and his wife at the funeral.
All right, Congressman, I'll let you go. I mean, am I saying anything that's wrong or out of
context or anything like that well the only uh possible disagreement i would have with you is the
chance of converting people like leticia james i've been at a number of police funnels with her
i don't see it having any impact in her whatsoever i don't think she should be treated rudely i would
prefer to not show up but that's the only disagreement i would have is i'm not certain that
this powers of conversion would work on uh letitia james all right now why do you think the attorney
General of New York will not enforce the law or protect innocent people. Why?
It's something I try to figure out over the years. I think people from the progressive left
somehow feel that their understanding of the law or their comprehension of what the law should be
who precedes everything else. I mean, you take a person like Alvin Bragg, he even has more
direct jurisdiction or the district attorneys have more jurisdiction even than the Attorney General,
and they just refuse to, for instance, on things like shoplifting and fair beating.
Alvin Bragg just won't even prosecute them, won't even entertain those cases.
And then it works its way up, it creates a mood.
It's a feeling that certain people, primarily the African-American community,
has been discriminated against over the years,
and therefore they're entitled to an extra advantage, if you will,
that the law should be as enforced strictly against them.
I think that's a form of bias, not just against the white community,
but against, you know, the black community itself, but it's, Bill, I can't, nothing in my upbringing of people I grew up with could act this way or could think this way that you should somehow allow certain classes of people to violate the law, not realizing that in doing that, it encourages more breaking of the law, and that's going to cause innocent people to suffer. And in most cases, now in this case, it was a white police officer, but most of these cases where the violence comes out, it's against other African-Americans.
and minorities.
The poor community takes it the worst.
So you believe it's racial politics,
both Alvin Bragg, the DA of Manhattan,
and the Attorney General, Letitia Grames, are black.
Kathy Hockel, the governor, is white.
Kathy Hockel is the power of executive order.
Could overturn a lot of this bail stuff herself,
that the progressives in Albany.
And, you know, it's shocking that people in Buffalo and Rochester
and places outside of New York City
vote these progressive people in, but it's a veto-proof legislation now.
There are so many progressives in Albany that they want not to punish criminals,
but Hockel has some power to do something, yet does nothing.
How do you think, what do you think of her?
That is harder for me to figure out.
I was telling people, including John Casmetidis, when I'm on his show,
when Kathy Huckle was about to come in,
that she was going to be a mainstream moderate governor,
when I was chairman of the Homeland Security Committee in Congress,
and she was in Congress about a year and a half.
She was assigned to my committee.
Her husband was a leading prosecutor of terrorist upstate New York.
She was a very normal person to deal with.
She was not involved at all with the radical left wing of a party down there.
She actually had an A plus rating, an A reading from the NRA.
But on any number of issues, she was definitely mainstream.
And yet when she went to Albany or became the governor,
as lieutenant governor, she didn't really have much to say.
when she became governor, she went further to the left than Andrew Cuomo, whether or not she wasn't ready for the job, whether she was overtaken by it, whether the people around her that way, but it's no excuse. I mean, listen, you've never been an elective officer. If you became the governor tomorrow, you wouldn't go racing over to the left. So, I mean, she had experience in a local government experience in Washington, and she was, I guess, lieutenant governor for five years. She should have had some idea what to do, but instead she's gone so far the left.
And that's just the policies, the whole tone is so far to the left.
Like her, that's just a position on abortion, but how much she expressed it with such a vehemence with such a left-wing bias.
I can tell you that these people that we are talking about put their own self-interest above the safety of the citizens.
The progressive money runs Albany.
They've got it.
It's not going to change unless.
And here's my last question.
I think this might be a turning point that people in New York, all right, the liberal people
who keep voting for these loons might step back now and say, you know what?
It's enough.
It's enough.
Do you believe that's possible?
I do think it's possible.
And, you know, you and I saw the feeling on the ground.
I think even, I've been a number of cops' unions over the years, but it's a number of these killing.
The reaction to this one of Detective Dillard to me was so profound, so extensive.
I think maybe the burden is on us now.
People like us, people have access to the media, people who have any connection to politics
and government, who have a voice, have a forum, have a platform to channel and harness that.
So let people know that, yes, it is terrible.
We can't afford us to feel sorry and forget about it in a few weeks.
We have to take action on it.
That's right.
Well, I'm going to do it.
I've done it my whole career, and I'm not being solved.
and grandizing now, but I have, and everybody knows it, and I will continue to do it.
But I am now angry at the people I know who continue to support the structure, the power
structure that is allowing people to die every day.
It's not just the police officers, all right?
It's ordinary people getting pushed in front of trains.
And, you know, look, Congressman, when you got a guy,
who is arrested on a gun charge after two stretches in his state penitentiary and 19 other arrests,
and he's out on the street again, you have now reached the breaking point where there is no justice system in New York.
It does not exist anymore.
And unlike you, I believe it's racial politics.
I think that's what's driving it.
But in my own industry, I know the New York Times, which is big behind this, will never change.
You could stack the bodies up to the ceiling, and it will never change.
That's how fanatical these people are.
Last word.
You know, they are fanatical.
And example of how it changed in New York just a few years ago,
and the giant football player, Oxygo Barras, shot himself in the foot with his own gun.
Nobody else was heard except him.
He got time upstate and jail.
just for having the illegal possession of that gun.
Now you have people with criminal records
who get arrested with a gun
and they're still out in the street a year later.
We have to stop it, Bill.
This is out of control
and so many more innocent people are going to be killed.
Not just cops, and that's terrible.
My father was a cop.
I hate to see any cop, even shot, wounded anyway.
But also, it's going to be rank and file
for people living in the communities
where it ends up no one is safe anywhere.
All right, Congressman.
Thanks very much. We really appreciate it.
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podcast. Joining us now from Washington is Roger Severino from the Heritage Foundation. He's a former
trial attorney at the U.S. Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division. So he knows
This is a state of New York case, not a federal case, but Mrs. Severino knows what's going on here.
So let's begin with Ms. Daniels and her demand for money.
That sounds illegal to me.
What do you say?
Yeah, it's so interesting the twists and turns of this case.
You would think that asking somebody for money to keep quiet might count as extortion,
and that perhaps Trump would have been the victim of this case.
But this entire story has been flipped on its head.
Trump is the one that's now in the hot seat
because you have these roving prosecutors,
not just in this case, but another,
is trying to do everything in their power
to prevent Trump from being president.
This is not about law enforcement.
This is about throwing anything they can to go after Trump
to impede his ability to run and be, again,
the president of the United States.
In this case, in particular, it's just dripping with ironies.
So they say that this is a hush money case.
Well, if Trump, in fact, was paying some,
somebody to keep quiet. That's not illegal. There's no underlying crime in paying somebody to keep
quiet. There's non-disclosure agreements all the time. It happens everywhere all the time.
So then second, we had this case of campaign finance violations. That was the first step
where people said, you know what, this was an actual influencing of a campaign. What you're doing
was paying money as a campaign expenditure to help Trump win his first election. Michael Cohen
actually took a fall. That was a lawyer of Donald Trump. He's a convicted perjurer and
is not going to be the star witness for Alvin Bragg and the DA.
He went down on a campaign finance case to get rid of his underlying other claims.
He had a tax evasion claim.
He hit $4 million in tax money.
He had a claim for bank fraud, essentially, for lying to banks to get a loan.
And to make all these cases go away, he also pled guilty to campaign finance violations.
Okay.
So let me stop you there.
Let me stop you there.
So Cohen, you're saying, is not going to be prosecuted all.
on the other allegations against him
because he has agreed to testify against Donald Trump.
That's what you're saying, right?
He pled guilty to all those claims.
It was a package deal for tax fraud, for bank fraud,
for campaign finance violations of how much.
So he pled guilty to all of that to make it all go away.
The campaign finance one was the weakest claim of all.
And now Alvin Bragg is saying,
but he had to say that he would give the government
something in return and that something is his,
testimony, right? He gets the testimony, right? Okay. So he pled guilty. I want to walk through this,
because it's complicated. Is there any evidence that's been put forth that you know of, because I don't
know of it, that the money paid to Ms. Daniels to keep quiet, and you rightly say that's not a
crime. But it would be a crime if it came out of campaign finance funds, funds that were supposed to be
used to propel a candidate in an election, right?
Yeah, arguably.
But that's the thing.
They never went after Trump for that.
Those charges were not brought against him.
They went after Cohen, and he is the one who pled guilty.
So now it's taken one more step.
So you didn't get Trump on any campaign finance allegations.
And by the way, John Edwards, who ran for vice president, had a very similar case.
He had hush money he gave out.
He was indicted for campaign finance irregularities and violations.
he won. He won. So the only other case, right, yeah, he was acquitted. The only other case that comes
anywhere near this, the politician won. It was not a campaign finance. What would you would have
expected Donald Trump to write on his books and making a campaign expenditure for hush money?
That would look far worse than giving money to his lawyer to pay the money, right? So, but Alvin Bragg
is taking this set of facts and saying, okay, not illegal to give money to keep somebody quiet.
There's no case on campaign finance that was prosecuted. We're going to go for falsifying
business records. That's the actual charge. 34 felony counts falsifying business records.
Who is the victim here that is being hurt by these alleged falsified business records, right?
There was no campaign finance violation found. So they're alleging that, okay, despite that,
we're still alleging there's this other crime. You didn't keep your books right. I mean,
this is ridiculous that they're going to these lengths to go after President Trump and they're
going to use Michael Cohen as their star witness when now he's most famous for lying to Congress
and going to jail for making false bank statements and lying on his taxes.
This is the best they got.
Well, they got Hope Hicks now coming in on this case.
Former President Advisor, Presidential Advisor, used to be Trump's friend.
I don't know what Hope Hicks could know or it's got to be hearsay.
I mean, she's not in the accounting meetings, but they got there, press thing.
But here's my theory, Roger, and you tell me if I'm off.
I don't think Bragg or the press or anybody else cares whether Trump's convicted or not.
They just want six weeks of smearing him.
That's what they want.
And if he gets off, they'll go, oh, but they just want to put him in a position where they can denigrate him and smear him consecutively for that long a period of time.
That's what I think it is.
Yeah, and you see the right end on the wall.
They're doing everything they can to prevent him from being the next president of the United States.
And that means doing this sort of campaign interference.
Right.
Now, the gag order is, but the gag order goes along with what I'm saying.
So there's a judge issues a gag order that Trump, you can't talk about the case.
So the media can run wild for six weeks and accuse him of everything under the sun, which they will.
but Trump now can't reply to it.
That's right.
His best tool is being able to speak and make his case
that he's going to go back and reform the justice system
because it's been weaponized.
It's looking like we're a third world country
where you have these forces abusing the court system
and abusing the law to go after the political enemies.
This case never would be brought it.
It's worse than a third world country.
In my opinion, it's worse.
You're familiar with the Nuremberg trials, right?
Yes. Right. Okay. So that's what this is. This is a condemnation of an individual. And in the Nuremberg trials, they were stacked in with the Third Reich hierarchy. Okay. And, you know, and we say Third World, which means the dictator dictates who gets convicted and who doesn't. Here, Trump will have a jury. Now, it's a Manhattan jury.
That's very, very difficult for Trump.
But what the government is trying to do here,
the government of New York, by the way,
let's separate it,
government in New York is trying to destroy him
through innuendo.
They know the press will crucify him,
and now he's under a gag order that he can't reply.
I think, come on.
Yeah, well, I mean, the Nuremberg trials were just trials
and they had process.
Here, you're having an abuse of process
and persecution purely for political
reasons, right? And the gag order is trying to take away Donald Trump's voice. One of his key
points is he's going to reform the justice system to prevent this sort of abuse from happening
that he's prevented from talking about those very abuses in real time. Or to correct the record
as he sees it, but his attorneys better be on it. I'll tell you that. It's going to be a day-by-day
horror show. Roger, thanks very much for helping us out. I really appreciate. If you pick anything
up in this trial that you feel is especially egregious or that, you know, people aren't understanding,
just give us a two, we'll throw you right back on, okay?
Thank you for helping us out.
Thank you.
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This is the NoSpin News Weekend Edition.
Let's go to the corrupt media.
So you will remember that on July 9th, 2018,
President Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.
Okay, you remember that, right?
Three weeks later, a woman named Christine Blasey Ford wrote a letter to Senator
Diane Feinstein of California saying that Kavanaugh had molested her, attacked her,
done something when they were teenagers.
Okay, two months after that, the story broke, all right?
And Ford ran around saying, Kavanaugh did X, Y, and Z to me, and he shouldn't be confirmed.
Okay.
Now, I followed that story very closely, and you heard about it.
And the thing I couldn't understand about the story was she didn't know when it happened, Blasey Ford.
People at the parties that she was referring to said, it didn't happen.
Didn't know who drove her home.
Didn't know anything.
It was like, what's her name in New York, testifying against Trump?
didn't she didn't even know what year it happened okay when i when i see that i get a little
i don't know about this all right and there was nobody corroborating blasi ford's story
her girlfriends didn't corroborate nobody corroborated okay so she writes a book and it's out
now uh blasi for it's a bomb it's a book's a bomb all right it's um on amazon kindle it's rated nine
thousand. On Barnes & Noble, it's seven thousand. Nobody's buying a stupid book. Because nobody
believes her. The other thing is that Blasey Ford is a abortion zealot. Loves abortion.
I'm going, oh, yeah. So I'm putting the whole thing together and I was extremely skeptical.
Now, one of the people named in this, oh, by the way, Blasey Ford appeared on CBS Sunday morning,
all Cupcake interviews, The View, NPR, all of that.
Cupcake, Cupcake, Cupcake.
She didn't get the massive nighttime exposure I thought she might get,
but, you know, it's still time.
But a book, nobody's buying it.
Good.
One of the names mentioned in this whole thing was Mark Judge,
who was a friend of Brett Kavanaugh.
So I wanted to talk to him.
But Mr. Judge is a very cautious man.
He should be.
He went through a lot when this broke.
So instead of putting him on television, we've got him on a telephone from his home state.
I'm not even going to tell you where he is.
He's a journalist, as I say, new Brett Kavanaugh.
He got pulled into this as somebody who did something.
I don't quite know.
Judge wrote a book called The Devil's Triangle, Mark Judge versus the new American Stasi.
Stasi is the West, is the East German Sea.
police when they were communist. Mark, you on a phone. You hear me okay? I hear you, Bill. Can you hear me?
Yes, I can. All right. So when Blasey Ford put a book out, I'm sure you haven't read it. I haven't read it. I mean, I know what her
rap is. How would you describe that woman? I'm not sure how I would describe her. I tend to stick to the facts being a
journalist and a lawyer friend of mine who stayed up all night reading her book had a very
interesting takeaway he called me the next day he said mark i stayed up all night reading this thing
you are only quoted via official government transcripts and congressional records which is quite
telling because it means that they don't want to get sued now the second thing is that my book
the devil's triangle came out two years ago i cite chapter and verse of little and big things i found
that were mysterious and concerning.
I'll give you one.
And her letter to Feinstein saying that I was a witness to Brett Kavanaugh attacking her,
I am referred to as Mark G. Judge.
That's an old journalism byline I used when I was younger.
Nobody calls me Mark G. Judge anymore.
It indicated to me that maybe they were researching me,
that maybe this wasn't an organic thing.
The day after Brett was nominated, she was meeting with Emma Brown, the reporter at the Washington Post, who ultimately broke the story.
The next day, Emma Brown emails me, a very innocent, innocuous email, hey, I'm doing a story about Georgetown Prep and you and Brett Kavanaugh.
Nothing about Blasey Ford.
Number three, I'll be quick.
This is the last thing I'll say on this.
Number three.
Leland Kaiser, Blasey Ford's friend, who denied.
the whole thing, the Blasie Ford's Seg was at this party and who, like me, was traumatized by this thing, was interviewed by Emma Brown of the Washington Post in Leland Kaiser's house the week before the Bozzi story broke.
Emma Brown at the Washington Post left Leland Kaiser out of her story. I have an email from Emma Brown saying, do you know Leland Kaiser, you know, and this is before the story broke.
And to keep it simple, I don't want to confuse people, but then the story breaks.
And Leland Kaiser is not in this earth-shattering story.
And for two years, I've been asking, okay, why did you call me Mark G. Judge?
I have evidence that indicates you were using an op-a researcher on me all summer.
Why was Leland Kaiser left out of this story when she was denied the whole thing?
He wouldn't back up what Emma, what's her name wanted.
That's why.
Right.
That's what they all do.
Right.
Right.
They weren't looking for the truth.
I mean, come on, and you know that.
Everybody knows that.
They're looking to convict Kavanaugh on whatever they convict them.
This is the press.
Now, a disturbing aspect of this story is the FBI exonerated Kavanaugh.
They didn't find anything after their investigation.
Remember that?
Yes, I do.
Okay.
Because I talked to him for three hours.
All right.
So you were involved with that.
But they never put out.
I talked to the FBI for three hours.
They never put out a public report on it, and they should have.
I would have liked to have seen they could redact names if they wanted to,
but how they arrived at their conclusion that Brett Kavanaugh was not guilty.
I think the people deserve that.
When the FBI talked to you, Mark, what did you tell them in a nutshell?
In a nutshell, I told them that I just have no recollection of this at all.
i mean i'm catholic i have a good conscience i've been sober for 30 years i said the supreme court
is not important important enough to me to lie about something like sexual assault
hand to god standing before jesus had i seen this i simply would say so the truth is so much
easier just to say so i simply don't recall this that's what i told them and and here's an
interesting point they said this is either going to take three hours or seven hours and i thought well
that's quite a disparity.
And I later understood that if you're lying, it takes seven hours because they've got to keep drilling down on you.
And if you're telling the truth, it's less time, which is three hours and mine.
Obviously, they believe your story.
But when you say you don't recall it, any human being witnessing something like that would recall it, right?
I think they, well, do you know how I learned of this story?
Ronan Farrow called me.
I'm sitting at home taking care of my elderly mother in September, 2018.
I get a call from Ronan Farrow, and literally he says this.
He says, you're implicated in this letter about sexual misconduct.
It was sexual misconduct at the time involving Brett Kavanaugh, who's been nominated.
And I hand to God, though, I said, who's the accuser?
He said, I can't tell you that.
I said, where did this allegedly take place?
He said, I can't tell you that.
I said, when did this allegedly take place?
He said, sometime in the 1980s.
I mean, that's why I refer to the Stasi.
I mean, that's literally what happened.
And you guys were in high school, you were prep school guys.
All right, final question, though, but my point in matter is this, no matter if you are older
than 10 years old, all right, if you're north of that, and you see some kind of horrific
conflict in a physical way like that, you remember that.
I mean, it's not like, well, I don't recall.
I don't recall, you know, filling up my car with gas, but something like that stays with you.
So I took, and you correct me if I'm wrong, your words to say it did not happen.
Am I wrong to feel that way?
Bill, there's a couple things real quick.
One, it's much more sinister than you understand.
There was extortion of witness tampering and opposition research.
It's all in my book, The Devil's Triangle.
And number two, we grew up in a tight-knit Irish Catholic Catholic school community.
If a boyfriend and girlfriend had an argument, it ricocheted gossip-wise around the community within hours.
If somebody went to a party in this happened and couldn't remember anything, how they got there, how they got back, if something like this happened, everybody would have been talking about it.
And Leelan Kaiser, her friend who allegedly was there, would have known about it.
Like, people in the community would have known about this.
Sure.
And that's all obvious.
So I'm going to take it again that you believe it did not happen with Brett Kavanaugh.
Okay?
Yes.
At this point, at this point, I believe it didn't happen.
I don't know what other point there can be, Mark.
You keep throwing in those words.
So I'm taking it that it didn't happen.
But I'm going to give you five seconds to correct me if I'm wrong.
because I always want to be honest.
No, I think it didn't happen,
and I think it was an extortion plot,
and I think it was a witness tampering plot.
And I think they found me as a weak link
as a former drinker, and they tried to use me.
I think that's what happened.
All right, Mark.
We appreciate time very much.
Thank you.
Here's the gem from the No Spin News Vault.
Okay, joining us now from Buffalo, New York,
is Congressman Nick Langworthy.
He is a representative from New York's 23rd district upstate,
and he is on the House Oversight Committee.
So at this point, Americans most fair-minded people know what happened.
There's not a lot of dispute.
The media ignores it, primarily.
They don't really get into it.
But talk radio, Fox News, on the Internet.
It's all over the place.
So where is this going, in your opinion,
and you being a member of the Oversight Committee.
Where is it going?
Well, I think we're going heading towards an impeachment inquiry.
I really think the Speaker of the House has been crystal clear
that we don't want to be Nancy Pelosi.
We're not going to run a slipshod impeachment process
just for the sake of saying the word impeachment.
I mean, those Democrats had made the decision to impeach Trump
the minute he was in the parade for the inauguration.
They knew they just were looking for the minute to do it.
This has been a very methodical investigation by the House Oversight Committee, led by our chairman, James Comer, as you've detailed here.
The third memo, the third installation of banking records that have been released.
Now we see the oligarchs have shown up in the bank records from Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia.
I mean, over $20 million in documented transfers.
And that doesn't count China.
You're not counting China in that.
Romania, Romania, there's more and more country, but now we're up to 20 million that we have
the receipts on.
You know, I've personally been down there where many members of the Oversight Committee
in the basement of the Treasury Department going through these suspicious activities reports.
I mean, and it's just, this has got the makings of one of the biggest scandals in the
history of the United States.
There's no doubt about it.
I think it is the biggest scandal as far as alleged bribery is concerned.
How many people are there on the Oversight Committee?
How many Congress people?
I think we have somewhere in a high 20s on the Republican side, and there's about five less Democrats on the committee.
Okay, so you're talking about 40 representatives on the committee, correct?
It's a big committee, yes.
Okay.
Is there one Democrat on the Oversight Committee that has shown any concern about this?
that is angry about it, worried about it?
Is there one?
I haven't heard that out of anybody's mouth.
I mean, Bill, when we had the whistleblowers from the IRS into the committee,
one, I was struck by just the candor they brought to the table,
the sincerity, the honesty, they knew their facts,
they were passionate, and they cared about the country and love the country.
One was a Democrat, one was a Republican.
So this wasn't, these weren't people engaged in partisan politics.
And you didn't hear a single person.
And I go last, just about last on the committee, because I'm a freshman.
But listening to all of the Democrats' questions, not a damn one of them had anything to say to defend the Bidens, to refute the claims.
It was all Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
It had nothing to do with the facts at hand.
But in your informal conversation, I don't want you to hang anybody on television tonight.
I'm not asking to do that.
But you guys talk amongst yourselves, and, I mean, you're in a committee and you have snacks and lunch and stuff.
Is there anybody on the Democratic side that is concerned here?
I have not seen one of them crack in terms of wanting to see this before.
It's as staggering as the media blackout.
No, no, but it's worse than that because Congress people are elected to represent
the folks.
The media wants to make money.
And they don't care about the folks at all, all right?
Not a wit do they care?
But your job is to represent the people that live in your district,
both Democrat and Republican, all right?
And on the, I haven't seen.
Seriously, I think we have to have a serious investigation
and come out with the facts.
We have to be honest.
You have.
You have.
And so is the judiciary.
All right.
And that's where I think the next step is impeachment inquiry, you know, is probably where we're heading.
But you're all on vacation now.
But I assume you guys are talking amongst yourself on the phone and all of that, right?
Okay.
So timeline on this.
You're back after Labor Day.
Committee resumes looking into the allegations about Hunter Biden and his father.
And Jim Biden has not been, you know, has not really been.
scrutinized the way I think it should be.
Can I give you one piece of really good information
that I hope you act on, Congressman?
Because I've been trying to get this story,
and I gave it to Senator Cruz,
and I gave it a whole bunch of other people.
You know that Matthew Graves is the U.S. attorney in Washington, correct?
Yes.
You know, and your committee has established
in the whistleblower testimony,
that Matthew Graves would not help Weiss the U.S.
attorney in Delaware investigate Hunter Biden. You know that, right? That's a fact. It's been
established. Do you know who Graves is married to? Who is that? You don't know, right?
Right. Okay. Her name is Fatima Graves. She's a far-left activist in D.C.
since Joe Biden has been president,
Fatima Graves has visited the White House 28 times
with no reason for being there.
Matthew Graves' office is right next to Attorney General Merrick Garland's office.
I would love to see the Oversight Committee subpoena Fatima Graves
to come in and explain what you.
she's doing in the White House 28 times, and why her husband, and you can subpoena him, too,
didn't recuse himself from the case instead of just saying, I'm not going to cooperate.
This is a big scandal because it ties right back to Merrick Garland and the soft deal Hunter Biden got.
And it's very, very helpful, Bill.
I hope you can just pull Comer aside. Comer, I think, knows. We had them on a couple of weeks ago,
but we've developed this story, my news organization. We didn't take it from anywhere.
But all you got to do is say, Mrs. Graves, thank you for coming in. We appreciate it.
And the visitor logs on the White House show all the time she's, what were you doing there?
What I think she was doing there is she's a conduit from the, from the, from the
president to Merrick Garland because as you know can't put anything in writing because you can subpoena
text and everything like that can't call all the calls taped you got to have a human being going
back and forth now maybe I'm wrong but in an investigation you should try to find out right
now this is very helpful and I'll share this with the with the staff with the Oversight Committee
and we'll get to work on asking these questions because thank you we the Merrick Garland in his
entire office. This needs to be turned upside down. What they tried to pull with a plea bargain
with Hunter Biden is just gross. And even at this point, after all of the work of the House
Oversight Committee and Judiciary Committee, the FBI still is not investigating anything
about all this money wire transfer into the United States. It's almost impossible to believe.
last word well we we are going to continue our work we're not going to be intimidated by anyone
we're calling out the legacy media every single day and in daring them to to cover this
I mean the cover up for this president I sure hope it's worth it you know what what
consequences that is bringing to this country that they won't put this in the nation's papers
or on the nation's news broadcasts they're going to get there is there deserve to know
They've already lost credibility and all that, and it's going to break.
So please keep in touch with this, Congressman.
It's very nice of you to help us out today, but we'd like you to be our point man here.
And any information you get, just let us know.
We'll throw you back up there.
And next time I'm up in upstate New York, I'll drop in to see you.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
Great.
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