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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. American colleges getting hammered by the Trump administration. We all know this. Columbia University forced to pay $200 million of federal government for its anti-Semitism. University of Pennsylvania to pay something and has banned transgendered women from women's sports. Brown, 50 million to the state of Rhode Island has to pay. Harvard and Cornell, they're going to have to pay big time, big time, if they settle, and I think they both will. So the Trump administration is after the corporate media and major liberal colleges.

Joining us now from Washington is Jen Pellegrino, the chief spokesperson for America First Policy Institute AFPI. She used to be an intern on the O'Reilly factor. Look, another success story, Jen. You see? That's right, Bill. Listen, I was a college student watching your program, thanks to my mom and dad who were loyal followers. And it was unusual back then to be of that. It still is now on some college campuses, but I think things are changing, especially with this president. So it's great to be back with you and to be able to talk about this today. I always tell everybody, you get through me, whether you're an intern or producer or whatever. It's like the Navy Seals.

I mean, you've got a widely factor on your resume or no spend news. People know that you can do the job because we don't fool around. All right, first of all, tell me exactly what America First Policy Institute is. Well, we stand for policies, very simply, Bill, that put the American people first. It's all getting back to common sense, regardless of. what side of the political aisle you're on, looking at policies that are fair. When you speak about our college campuses, having diverse viewpoints, when you look at what's going on in sports, making sure men are men and women are women and there aren't men in women's locker rooms,

things that I think a lot of people can understand and get on board with when it comes to securing our borders, issues that were top priority in our election, things of that nature are what the America First Policy Institute focuses on. And we're bringing on board a lot of people who may say, you know what, I'm not maybe following a certain president or somebody, but I can get on board with some of these policies. And we find that overwhelmingly, even 100 days into this administration, the majority of the Americans are in support of those policies. Are you, would you say you're conservative?

I wouldn't say we're conservative or liberal. I say we're in the middle, somewhere in the range of common sense. All right. So you got Cudlow, does economics for you, Brooke Browns, they're both conservatives. I don't see any liberals on a sheet yet. So I'm going to assume that A-F-P-I leans right. Now, did you guys endorse Donald Trump? We do not endorse a candidate or a nonprofit C-3 institution, so we don't endorse candidates.

We're here to support those that advance America-First policies. Why don't you put out your donor list? Well, Bill, that's something that our development team holds secure. We don't put that out. We don't take money from corporations. I will tell you that there are other institutions in this town that do. We only take from private donors, so we keep that secure and private to those individuals. But you might have a discussion about that.

All right. Now, how would you assess the nation's colleges? Because I get tons of letters from very worried parents and grandparents are sending their high schoolers to college, and they think they're going to get indoctrinated. And I have to say it's a legitimate concern. My old college, Marist, in Poughkeepsie, New York, used to be a working-class school that didn't have an ideology. Then I went woke.

And I'm going, what? What? How do you assess it? Is it 75% woke or 50-50? What is it? You know, I couldn't put a number on it, Bill. But I would say it's probably happening on most college campuses around this country. I went to school in the South, University of South Carolina, not as big of an issue as some universities like Cornell or Harvard when it comes to the balance of voices.

But I think, you know, there's a level of it in just about every college campus right now. And I think it is something very concerning to parents, to students that are looking at colleges saying, you know, what am I going to be dealing with it? You know, if I'm of Jewish background, am I going to feel safe going to my classes? Is there going to be an issue if I wear a maga hat to one of my classes? So I think there needs to be more balanced in viewpoints and conversations and allowing debate, which hasn't been going on for some time, much like we've seen, as you outlined in the media. Do you, does your organization have a list of colleges that it likes, that if somebody calls you and says, gee, you know, what is the America First Policy Institute? Do they have schools that they, you know, say are doing a good job in this area? I think there are some institutions that are doing better than others.

You know, we've looked at universities like Cornell, who have obviously had some, you know, DEI practices that continue to this day. We issued a formal complaint asking for the federal government to investigate some of the work that they've done illegally in terms of, you know, providing incentives for certain hiring. Give me one example about Cornell. What are they doing wrong? So Cornell, one example, $50,000 incentive for hiring of a certain racial benefits. background with their medical. Who gets the 50K?

Wanting to bring on faculty with a certain racial background, 50 grand. Who gets the 50K? The person who referred them. So if I refer Juan Williams to Cornell and he gets hired, I get 50,000? If you work for the university. If you work for the university. Oh, you have to work for the university. Because I'd send Juan up there in a heartbeat for 50K. I mean, you just get right on a train and go to Cornell. Okay, so that's pretty outrageous.

And Harvard, my alma mater, you know, a master's degree, they have 72% hiring of liberals, professors. I think it's even higher than that now, but it's outrageous. I mean, how they stack the deck against the student. Now, last question for you. If anybody wants to help the America First Policy Institute, They can go to your website and they can see what's going on. Do you believe that your pressure, okay, has led to anything positive?

I mean, you know, or is it all Trump? See, Trump is the guy that's hammering these schools, particularly Harvard. It's a blood feud. But you're not quite as militant as Trump. But have you changed any minds? Act site located, entering spacecraft. Content. We were safer in space.

FX's Alien Earth, an original series streaming August 12th on Disney Plus. Sign up today. 18 plus subscription required TNCs apply. Hey, Mike Baker here. of the President's Daily Brief podcast. If you want straight talk on national security, foreign policy, and the biggest global stories going on of the day, this is the show for you. We publish twice a day, Monday through Friday, once in the morning, again in the afternoon, and on the weekend, we go longer

with the PDB's Situation Report with excellent guests, including national security insiders and foreign policy experts. Check us out on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Also, on our YouTube channel, at President's Daily Brief. I think we have, Bill. I would say that we're very much in alignment with the president, again, being the America First Policy Institute, America First is something this president speaks about a lot. A lot of that work that we did prior to the election and handed over to the campaign. A lot of that work has been implemented now in what the president has done. So we provide a lot of guidance, suggestion, research for the administration. And they take that into place. So credit is due to this administration. Not to us. We're just some of the brains and experts behind the scenes. here. All right, Jen. Very good. I'm glad we could, in a small way, contribute to your success, and I hope we can talk again soon. Thank you very much. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. I have an interesting guest to tell you about. Breitbart, Alex Marlowe. I read the book, and I got a thousand books, literally, okay? So I wanted to see what Marlowe had. And here's what

I'm interested in. I'm not interested in right-wing politics. Breitbart is a conservative site. I knew Mr. Breitbart before he died. I liked him. But what I'm interested in is who paid for all the cases against Donald Trump and Marlow is investigating that. Now, if you don't know him, he is, let me get your official title here, Alex, so I don't blow it. You are the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, the host of the Alex Marlowe podcast, and a two-time New York Times bestselling author. Did I have it? Do I have everything?

And you want to throw anything else in there on your resume, or do I have it? No, and a three-time guest on your show, Bill, which I appreciate you. You have me on for both of my other books, Breaking Biden and Breaking the News. And there's an homage to you in that. I've titled my first three books and a similar theme to what you do with The Killing Series. as I was thinking about it. I think other than Stephen King, you're the author I've read the most over the years, so congrats to your longevity.

And there's a homage to Bill O'Reilly in the book title. Thank you. Thank you. You're going to love evil coming up September 9th. Now, let's start with E. Jean Carroll. And this is probably the least important, but the most outrageous. Yes, agreed. Because I know, I don't know her, but I know who she is.

And I know the people she surrounds herself with. And she won 5 million in damages saying that Trump jumped her in Bergdorf-Gudman. I mean, it's just inconceivable that that would happen with no scream or nobody else around. I mean, come on. She still won Manhattan jury. And then she won when Trump said she's X, Y, and Z, she sued him for defamation, won there. Cases presently on appeal. who gave eugene carroll the money to go after trump first of all i love that you started with this case

of the sixth that i profiled because it is the most outrageous it does seem to be the the least serious but this is a woman who had cats named tits and vagina she basically her claims against trump almost mirrored exactly a law and order plot from an episode that took place a year or two before this event allegedly took place there are so many implausible moments in the case. I think when people read my retelling of it, they'll actually laugh at certain points. And yet, this was put up as a major example of the sexual predatory behavior by Trump with virtually little, almost no hard evidence at all. The key point being that she had apparently saved this dress that may have had Trump's DNA on it, but then she wouldn't turn it over to

authorities so no one could actually examine it. So which I talked to Trump about this and he said, he loved that she had the dress because he could have proved, could have exonerated him. So she kept it a secret. But to answer your question, this was bankroll by Reid Hoffman, the LinkedIn billionaire, frequent Biden White House guest, a guy who has been involved in basically every major Democrat funding operation, period. And he is someone who is part of this revolving door of donors as involved in so many of these nefarious plots by the left to try to buy portions of the American government. This was the idea of George Conway, the famed legal pundit and ex-husband of Kellyanne Conway. Let me let me stop you there. When you

It was Conway's idea, and Hoffman funded it. All right, let me stop you there. Reed Hoffman, he said frequent White House guests under Obama and Biden. I don't even know. Did he visit Biden? Yeah, five times in 2022 alone, and then there was another meeting that they had that same year. So he's deeply embedded. I stopped there.

I thought, I have what I need at that point. He's deeply embedded. Now, this E. Jean Carroll thing, do you know if she got money directly from him, was she paid? by him? I don't know if she was paid by him, but her attorneys, and she had the top attorneys possible, the absolute top Me Too attorneys. And this was framed as a Me Too case, that this was an example of Trump praying on a innocent woman in pinning her into a department store dressing room, even though there were no eyewitnesses to it. And apparently Carol hadn't told anyone who would testify about it for decades. That was how was framed. And they got the

best lawyers in the game in order to be on her team. Those people are not cheap. And they're certainly not something that E. Gene Carroll as a former comedy writer and columnist could have afforded. Okay. So as a civil suit, you have to pay lawyers to file all paperwork. I'd say estimate $2, $3 million. They might have worked pro bono for her and taken a piece, but you're saying that Hopman paid them outright, but you don't know if he paid her, right? Yeah. I I don't know exactly where the funds were allocated specifically, but I'll tell you, there was a clip of Carol after she had gotten a, I think was a $95 million judgment against Trump, where she was literally announcing she was going to be buying gifts for her attorneys, as well as sympathetic TV pundits. It wasn't a serious case. Then we go into, and you believe, according to breaking the law, your book, that the Manhattan jury would have found Trump guilty of anything.

And Trump didn't appear on his own behalf, right? But the fix was in from the very beginning. That's what you believe, right? Yeah, and Trump said he probably regrets his strategy in that I spoke to him about this in an interview earlier this year, and he says that he did not like the way that his attorneys handled it.

He had tough words for a guy named Taka Pina, who's one of his attorneys. But he also said that he was hopeless, so that once the judge and jury weren't panelled, it was over for him. And that's part of the problem with the law fair. Okay. What is Project 65?

Yeah, Project 65 are attorneys who is a well-funded left-wing effort to target attorneys who work for Trump. And it's essentially legal world cancel culture. It's trying to make it that if you represent Trump or someone who is affiliated with Trump, that you are no longer able to work in polite society again. Wow. And you are classed out. Yeah. All right.

Who's Herb Sandler? Herb Sandler is a guy who is behind ProPublica. Now, ProPublica is a left-wing activist journalism outlet. And they actually get some stuff right. I know this because I practice some advocacy journalism bill, which I'm happy to admit from time to time. It doesn't make you inaccurate if you have an agenda when you're reporting certain things.

But he's funded this group that has really tried to take either small kernels of news or outright fake news and use it to weaponize against conservative judges and justices. In particular, he's targeted Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito, the two originalist standard bearers on the Supreme Court. And the ProPublica outlet has tried to make their lives a living hell simply because they're originalists. And they've implied this guilt by association stuff that because they have a couple of rich friends, that they must be taking bribes from them to decide court cases in certain

ways. And there's no evidence of that at all. It's all speculation and it's designed to harass them. And this comes from the ProPublica outlet, which is backed by mainly Herb Sandler and the Sandler Foundation, but also George Soros and Lorene Powell Jobs, who owns the Atlantic, and another murderer's row of Democrat philanthropists. Now Soros is in his mid-90s, his son Alex, is running this operation, open society, or whatever it is. Yes. But how active in your book was Soros in trying to harm Donald Trump? Very active in certain ways, but he's able to act, he's able to operate more clandestinely and he his focus in my book is more on the the the DA races that he bought tens and tens of millions of people in this country are living in a area where their DA is

soft on crime and is doing everything they can to try to allow criminals and that was bragg and those people were put in power by Soros money sores donated millions to them and their competition on the other side couldn't match um that's right final uh final question for Media Matters has been in business, I don't know, almost 30 years. They're character assassins. I've gone up against them many, many times. I'm Chris Hadfield. I'm an astronaut, an author, a citizen of planet Earth.

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was here to celebrate uh with us sadly there's a lot of i think facsimiles of it that will just replace the work that media matters is done and i grew to find it to be a a compliment whenever they would quote me for some reason so i will miss that to some degree but this was the original soros funded media operation to try to smear and character assassinate people basically for having normative conservative views, the type of views that you and I would opine on a daily basis about Bill. Okay. Did you find any research, and again, I did read Alex's book, and if you're into this kind of want to know the specifics, it's very good, you'll get a lot of information out of it. Thank you. Did you find any corporate media

that reported on any of this Trump stuff in a fair way, methodical way? No, absolutely not. And one thing that I highlight right at the top is how Jeff Bezos admitted that his paper completely failed on this. And this is not a guy who's a knee-jerk pro-Trump person. I think he's mostly a political, if not left-leaning, though I think he's embraced Trump recently to some degree. But he flat out announced that we botched this thing. And this is something that is a point we cannot repeat enough. The corporate media is dead and we can, frankly, urinate on their graves at this point because they're gone and they're not coming back in a meaningful way. Alternative media is here to stay.

All right, Alex. Thank you very much for helping us out. We appreciate it. Good luck with the book. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. All right. Now, racism leaves a hate crime, no doubt about it. We saw that in Cincinnati, where these black gang of people beat the hell out of a few white middle-aged people.

It was stunning. Why would you do that? Now, I don't think that has a wider implication, which is why we haven't spent a lot of time on it here. I think it's just bad people who did it, but I don't think it's a bad group. But there's another story that's kind of unsettling. So you know the basketball superstar Caitlin Clark, she is in the Women's National Basketball Association, big star. Huge star, brilliant player. Okay, she's on the Indiana team.

Now, 64% of the WNBA is black. All right, Caitlin Clark comes in and is immediately the biggest star in a league. Immediately. And merchandising in every other way. Apparently, there's some jealousy that might be manifesting itself into physical

inappropriate conduct. Here's Stephen A. Smith on it. You got people that are resentful towards her. But not, she is really not about her guys. It's about what she represents. Before she ever came along, there were a lot of outstanding basketball players who happen to be black females

that was doing their thing on the WNBA level and they never got this kind of shine. This girl, the Golden Goose, comes along and she reeks havoc. Okay, because she's brilliant, right? That's why she's wreaking havoc. Because she is so good.

Now, LeBron James, maybe the best basketball player ever he's been watching this situation go you know there's a very small number of men and women that actually get to live out there dream of playing the professional sport and we have grown-ass men and women out here doing whatever they can to try to make sure that does not happen that is the weirdest thing in the world but it is what it is and i'm I'm glad that Caitlin has a great head at our shoulders. All right, just to be clear, Caitlin Clark is being fouled at a wreck and rate. Some of them are brutal fouls, and a lot of the refs are looking the other way.

And the women fouling her are doing it on purpose. Now, I can't read minds, but it does have a racial aspect to this. But I could be wrong. Now from England is Sean McLean. He's the founder of Origin Advocacy. He wrote a piece in a Wall Street Journal about all this that caught my attention. Number one, what's Origin Advocacy? What is that? Origin Advocacy is a Washington, D.C. based consulting lobbying firm. We help clients figure out how to best engage the federal government. Okay, so you're basically a consultant to various individuals. Is there an ideology attached to you?

So I've worked in government for nearly 15 years. So I'm very limited government. I'm conservative. I've worked for Marshall Blackburn, Ted Cruz, and in the Trump administration, including the Trump White House. Okay. Now, what caught your attention about Caitlin Clark? Fanduil Casino's exclusive live dealer studio has your chance at the number one feeling, Winning, which beats even the 27th best feeling, saying I do. Who wants this last parachute? I do. Enjoy the number one feeling.

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But despite all that success that she's immediately had, the league has basically looked the other way as she's been targeted on a weekly basis, and that targeting is putting her career at risk. Tell me what targeting means. What does that mean? So she is taking on harder fouls and at a higher rate than any of her peers. So it turns out that in her rookie season, she absorbed 17% of all flagrant fouls or hard fouls, more than double the rate of any of her peers. This is not something that you would see occur to any other top star,

any other league. And I think a lot of fans are scratching their heads of why the league is allowing this to continue, especially given the economic impact that she's having on the league, which they've so desired for decades. Yeah, but you're not scratching your head, Sean. What do you think it is? Right after she was drafted and heading into her rookie year, Asia Wilson, who is a three-time MVP of the league, she's won the championship for Las Vegas Aces. She came out and address the attention that Caitlin Clark is getting, and she said it's absolutely has to do with race. And then, quote, it boils her blood when people try and say that it's not about race. And so, unfortunately, it seems like there's a lot of commentary that's being

made by players when they're on camera and they know reporters are watching that show that there is a racial element to this. Well, what the black players don't want a white superstar? Is that what you're saying? I think as you kind of hit up. on and in the cliffs leading into this segment, there's a lot of jealousy and animosity. And that can be understood, right? If you've been a VP of the league in the past, yet you were unable to achieve the visibility

and perhaps the endorsements that Caitlin Clark has received by the gate, it shows that it's normal to assume that there would be some degree of resentment. However, the concern is that that resentment is then leading to targeting on the court. It's happening at a higher rate for Caitlin Clark to anyone else. And unfortunately, it's creating a textbook hostile work environment for Caitlin Clark.

And under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, the federal government does have an ability to engage here. So that's interesting. So you said the federal government, you get involved with this because Ms. Clark's civil rights are being violated as she is targeted on the court, the basketball court, and no one's protecting her. Is that what you're saying? That's correct. I know a lot of people say it's sports, you know, we should expect hard fouls. And I agree with that. I'm a sports fan.

I like seeing competitive play. But unfortunately, facts are separate things. And the statistical disparity in the amount Kaelin Clark is being fouled compared to any of her peers in the league or the treatment that she receives compared to any other top stars and any other leagues, there's no comparison to it. And so she's facing a hostile work environment. Unfortunately, it appears that it does impact a particular. protected class per race, as evidenced by quotes by players in the league. And there is a federal element here to where the government can intervene. And we've already seen this.

One, the federal government gets involved in sports all the time. We've seen it with MLB in steroids, NFL concussions, USA gymnastics, and Dr. Larry Nassar. And even just this past year, President Trump and his administration have really leaned in to fixing disparities at university. and within the NCAA, within fencing, swimming, gymnastics, and has been receiving direct results. All right, but this is the first time race has really gotten to this level. Why do you think the referees don't protect her more?

I think that's a great question. And I think the one key that, you know, the 17% of flagrant fouls that she receives versus others, that's just based on calls that have actually been, that the referees actually call. The biggest problem here is that they don't call a lot of these fouls that are committed against her. Rebecca Lobo, an analyst and former player, has pointed that out. And so if there's an actual audit of the past season, of all the missed calls, I actually think the disparity would be much greater than 17%.

Has any player in the WNBA said that they don't want white girls to be dominant or any kind of stuff like that surface? You know, there's the Asia Wilson quote, right? The race is absolutely about race. There's been other incidents where it's been questionable. So it seems like there is a pattern out there to where race is an element here. Yeah, I'm not sure if that's enough to take it into court on a Title VII. But certainly there should be an investigation because you got the videotape.

You can see, as you just pointed out, how she's being roughed up and whether the referees are looking the other way or who's roughen her up. You can see all that. And I think that would be a very compelling evidence. Last word. I think the point that you just made is key, right? This isn't about an airtight legal case for the federal government. But what the facts do show is that there is a lot of red flags here, where there's smoke,

there's typically fire. And if there is an investigation, and as we've seen in past investigations, once lead communications are reviewed, there may be a lot more damning evidence that comes to light that really underscores what's taking place. Yeah, somebody should look into it. Why they won't fix it. I agree 100%. Sean, thanks very much. Really appreciate it.

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