Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - December 16, 2023

Episode Date: December 16, 2023

Listen to this week's No Spin News interview with Former U.S. Attorney Brett Tolman, Author Seamus Bruner on the Billionaire Elite, and Author Kara Dansky on Gender Identity. We also visit the No Spin News archives and Bill's conversation with Presidential Historian, Douglas Brinkley. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. The National Archives is set to hand over to the House Oversight Committee 62,000 pages of Joe Biden records when he was vice president, phone calls and stuff like that, because Joe Biden used a pseudonym, a phony name, on a number of transmissions that he made. So all of this data is coming this week to the House Oversight Committee. All right. Now, I'm confused, which is not a good thing. There is the Presidential Records Act, which says that a vice president and a president,

all of their correspondence, has to be logged. And when they leave office, it has to be given to the president. the National Archive. That is the Presidential Records Act. Okay. But if you're using a private gizmo like this under a phony name, as Joe Biden did, all right, how does the archives know that? How do they know it? Remember Hillary Clinton erased all this stuff and this and that? All right. So who better than to tell us is the former U.S. Attorney for Utah. Brett Tomlin, who joins us now from Salt Lake City. How do they know?

How did the archives get all the stuff from Vice President Biden? Eight years. He's using pseudonyms. He's using his private phone. He's using public. How do they get it all? Bill, thanks for having me on. I think there's really two possibilities here.

The first is the Presidential Records Act does not distinguish between personal devices and official. So any communication or any record that's created, while he is vice president. It doesn't matter the device. Now, most presidents and vice presidents will take control. They'll delete. They'll do away with personal information that they don't want the archives to have.

But if they don't, the archives are the ones who they have the computer forensic experts that come in and they take devices and they take laptops and everything else and they extract from it all records. So even if you erase stuff, they can reconstitute it, right? That's correct. Let's just keep it in Biden's ballet work right now.

So Biden has to turn over all the things that he did for eight years, any communication, private or public, he by law has to turn over to the National Archives, right? Yeah, that's correct, Bill. Because right as soon as he's done being in office, the ownership of that transfers to the actual National Archives. So the ownership is no longer Joe Biden's, and he has to transfer it over, and they then take the time to go through it. You know, the other way in which they can take possession or find out about these documents is the sloppiness of Joe Biden.

If he uses, you know, his other devices, his official computers or laptops or phones, and he uses those emails, which, you know, any device that you use, whether it's official or not, you have access. as to all of your email accounts there. My guess is it was a combination of both sloppiness by vice president and then turning over the records and the archivist then retrieved all documents on those devices. If you don't turn them over, you can be charged with a crime like Donald Trump is being charged with for all the stuff he had in his Mar-a-Lago basement, right?

That's correct. It's not historically been handled that way. There's negotiations and you hand over and they eventually both sides are satisfied. but you can violate the law. And we see that said issue in the model. That's what Hillary Clinton did. And I wonder if they reconstituted that stuff.

But anyway, so 62,000 pages of stuff from Joe Biden, his vice president, some of which he used as pseudonym, a phony name, is coming into the house. That's going to take a while to sort through all of that. Okay. Now, my column that I wrote, I thought it was one of the. best comms I've written on bill o'Reilly.com just details the corruption because I don't want to he said she said I don't want two sides to the story all I want to do is report what we know to be true do you did I leave out anything or did I do anything that wasn't accurate now it's very

timely and it hit me personally because I've been I've been wondering how how individuals that are on the left and still supporting Biden, you know, how do they come to the conclusion that nothing, you know, that nothing's been found improper? And I spoke to a lawyer friend of mine in New York, and we had a conversation. He's very left of center. And he had no idea what I was talking about

when I outlined some of the things that you and I have discussed about what's been, you know, what's come out in the investigation, what the house has uncovered, the monies, and I was flabbergasted, but it tells you that we're all in these silos, and he's walking away thinking to himself that this is all fake and phony on the right while we sit there and we look at this and we're stunned by it.

So your column was perfect to point out that everybody's manipulated by the media. That is corruption, but it's the lazy that are not going to find out the truth. Okay. So, you know, as a historian, we're going through now every president because we're coming out with a new book in September to coincide with the election cycle of 24, the presidential election. And we're going over everyone, the scandals they had, the problems they had. U.S. Grant had a lot of problems with his cabinet. Harding was ridiculous. Nixon was

absurd. And I think that they put in the taping after JFK and Johnson and then Nixon, now all calls going into the White House are taped, right? That's correct. They're all taped. Right. All it's taped and logged. That goes to the archives. It's just these new devices. And I'm sure there are ways to get around them, but I'll be interested to see the analysis of the 62,000 ages coming in to the House this cycle. Last question. You've been around for a long time. The FBI is supposed to be the primary investigating agency

at corruption at this level, correct? Absolutely. Front lines. It isn't. The FBI Chief Ray works for Merrick Garland, the Attorney General. Merrick Garland works for Joe Biden, the president. So you've got this agency, we've done absolutely nothing to investigate the Biden family grift.

They know it's up between 20 and 30 million, and no agents have been assigned to investigate it at all? Yeah, and Bill, you look at that indictment. An entire half of the investigation is missing. Typically, a task force is formed between the IRS and the FBI, and the FBI. FBI chases down the other half of the investigation, which is the movement of the money, the establishment of the conspiracy, the fake and phony companies, and then the movement of international money into the United States. All that is handled by the FBI. They're the front runners on pure corruption cases like this. It should have been done. It's so obvious to those

of us who have worked on these types of cases that that case in California was absolutely a product of let's get out there, you know, a few of these charges against Hunter, and hopefully it deflects from the fact that we are missing half of the entire investigation. Yeah. And that Estrada guy, you know him? I do not. I do not know him. I'm shocked that, you know, there used to be a time, there used to be a time when

U.S. attorneys, they didn't take their marching orders from Maine Justice in Washington, D.C. That time is over. Wait, wait, and he's still there. And this is a little back to Merrick Garland, who the Attorney General who's going to get down in history as one of the most corrupt Attorney General's you've ever had. All right, Brett Tom and everybody, Merry Christmas, Brett. Thanks for helping us out.

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So on a cover, you got Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, who's a founder of the World Economic Forum, Jeff Bezos. there they are, the billionaires trying to dominate my life. I don't like that. Seamus, you got to stop it. You got to stop it right now. So you got this Davos thing coming up in January in Switzerland. They do it every year, right?

All these billionaires go in there and they do secret stuff. Are you going to Davos this year? Are you going to be there? I'm thinking about it. I don't think they'd let me in, though. It's notoriously secretive, and they might just arrest me if I showed up. No, they can't arrest you. I'm thinking about it, though we'll see.

Yeah, the Swiss authorities can't arrest you. And the Canton, they don't have counties in Switzerland, they have cantons. They won't bother you. Now, if you try to crash a private meeting, then the bodyguards that will be there would beat the tar out of you. So be careful. But if you want to go wear a little ski cap and just kind of putter around, you can go. Now, I haven't finished your whole book, but I've read enough of it to get the flavor of it.

You kind of veer in and out of the conspiracy stuff. I'm not saying this as a negative, but there's a big crew that believes that these billionaires want to dominate the world in a variety of different ways, okay? And they do all kinds of nefarious things to amass even more power. What I want to do today is run down one by one. We know about Soros. We don't have to, that's established beyond any doubt, trying to undermine Judeo-Christian traditions in America. doing it for decades. His son, Alex, is now in charge. What about Mark Zuckerberg? On page 234 of

controllegarks, you mentioned that Zuckerberg pumped $400 million into the 2020 election where Biden beat Trump, and Trump says it was crooked. I haven't been investigating that as well, because that caught my eye. I can't come up with where this 400,000. million actually went and what it did. But you're smarter than I am. Tell me, where's the 400 million? Yeah, so he pumped it through two nonprofits, and you see that. That's a common theme. I mean, you see it with these ad boycotts where Soros is pumping money through tides, through the, into media matters. Lorraine Powell Jobs features in this book, and she's doing the same thing through organizations like acronym, which was funding another ad boycotter,

Nanda, Nandini Jama, sleeping giants, who I know you're familiar with them. But Mark Zuckerberg, he does the same thing. He puts it into the Center for Tech and Civic Engagement, and another equally, you know, sort of obscure-sounding organization sounds totally innocent. And then what those organizations did is they went into mostly blue areas in purple districts, and they put the drop boxes, and they funded the election infrastructure. structure, which has now been banned in a lot of states, by the way. The Zuckerbucks have been banned. Unfortunately, what hasn't, and it's free speech. I mean, right? Soros will say that funding

media matters is free speech, but that's just, you know, another example of the many ways these control guards are kind of putting their fingers on the scales of our election. You know, it's, they say that money is the free speech, but then they're censoring shows like, you know, yours and others they're trying to anyway. They want to do the ad boycats and stuff like that. So they're very against First Amendment, although they hide behind it. All right, but let's get back to the $400 million. So Dropbox is okay, but they were legal in Wisconsin and Michigan and states like that where a lot of this money went in.

Do you think that Zuckerberg is financing anything that's illegal? Well, I'm not a lawyer. I'm sure many lawyers have looked into it. The states have changed their laws. that was kind of the problem is, and that's a problem with so many of the things we investigated at the Government Accountability Institute, is it's actually legal. It just doesn't seem right that a billionaire should be able to finance. I haven't found it either, although this extraordinary amount of money going into 20 counties,

all of which voted for Biden, I believe it, all of them did. I don't know. It's really shady. Now, Jeff Bezos is a billionaire, and, for you. For me, all he does is buy stuff for himself. He owns the Washington Post. Okay, that's for sure. All right.

And that's a far left progressive organ. But does Bezos? I mean, every time I turn around, he's buying another yacht or another house, and he and his girlfriend are out there doing stuff. I don't know. Is he a threat, Bezos? Well, you keyed in on two of the more libertarian, at least they were originally, of the control of guards,

Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos. I mean, I trace their leanings all the way back to their beginnings. And Bezos was, to his credit, originally quite libertarian. But in recent years, you know, he goes to Davos. He's set up these climate change initiatives, like the Bezos Earth Fund. You know, he's poured $10 billion into that. And so on its surface, the climate change initiatives, that's probably his biggest philanthropic endeavor.

The climate change initiatives seem great, you know. It's saving the planet. It's a very ambitious goal. But what we see with the climate change initiatives are they're really about seizing control over the energy sector. And so I'll give you an example. You know, imagine you, it's the middle of winter. Imagine you go to your thermostat. You just woke up in the middle of the night shivering and you try to turn up the heat in your home.

Well, you can't. It's been locked. You've lost control over your own thermostat. This may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it actually asked the residents of Denver, Colorado. in Texas, this has happened. And in California, with these flex alerts, they are taking over control of the smart thermostats. Now, this is made by companies like Amazon and Google.

And you didn't really realize when you clicked the I agree box to have the smart home temperature monitoring. But that's exactly what you're doing is you're turning over control of your home temperature. Right. So before you click anything, you better know. What about Bill Gates? I mean, he's one of the first Microsoft guy, you know, he's got a lot of money and running around. What did you find out about him?

Yeah, well, he's waging war on our small, you know, small holder farmers, generation-owned farms. He's waging war on privacy through his digital ID initiatives. I mean, just a couple of weeks ago, he and the United Nations announced that they will be rolling out a digital ID regime in 50 countries within five years. that's going to totally obliterate your privacy. And they'll sell it to you under the guise of convenience. I don't know about you, but it's not very hard for me to pull my driver's license out of my wallet. I don't need it centralized in a Microsoft database.

He's waging war on other things, too, information. What does he want that digital ID? What's the rationale behind it? He's been invested in and very interested in digital ID for over 15, 20, years. He says it's a great way to store things like your vaccination records and your medical, your medical records. I mean, ultimately what he likes is collecting lots and lots of data. And data, according to the World Economic Forum, visionary Yuval, Noah Harari, the people who

control the data control the entire world. And so what this is all leading towards, actually, Bill, is a universal basic income driven by artificial intelligence job losses. Wow. Sam Alton. Yeah. You must have. You must. I'd be a little bit ahead of yourself, but do you think, last question for you, Gates is nefarious? Do you think, or just misguided? There's a difference between a Soros, he's a bad guy, and somebody who's climate change crazy or, you know, wants the ID because it's easier or whatever. Would Gates be, in your opinion, you wrote the book, you're an expert, nefarious?

That's a strong word. You know, I read all the memoirs of his, you know, his dad and his relatives. His sister said he was nasty. His dad said that he was constantly at war for control with his parents. His mother pleaded and pleaded with him to be more charitable, you know, as he was, you know, accumulating what amounted to making him the world's richest man, billions and billions of dollars. His mother begged him to give it away to charity. He wouldn't. So it was really only after the Justice Department started investigating Microsoft.

that he sets up his philanthropic foundation in rebrands. I don't know if I'd call him nefarious, but I would definitely say he's control-happy. He likes to control things. That's a direct quote from him and his parents. And so, yeah, I think he's just trying to get control of as much as possible. All right. The book is Control Ligarchs by Seamus.

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She has a new book out called A Reckoning, How the Democrats and the Left Beating. trade women and girls. So you, Ms. Dansky, were a very committed left-wing individual, right? And now you're not? Is that what I'm understanding? I would actually reframe that. Thanks so much for having me, first of all. So speaking solely as myself, I registered as a Democrat in 1990 when I turned 18. I'm still a registered Democrat. And what I argue in the book is that so-called gender identity or trans is actually incredibly regressive. So currently, I'm the president of an organization called Women's Declaration International U.S. chapter, and we bring what we think is a leftist feminist critique

of so-called gender identity or trans. And part of the reason I wrote the book is because I'm gravely concerned because we know from polling that Americans across the political spectrum are gravely concerned about men and boys being able to be in women's spaces, male prisoners being able to be in women-only prisons, male athletes invading women's sports. We know this from polling that has been done, and viewers would never know this from looking at most media outlets, but most Democrats and most people who identify as liberal or very liberal are completely with us lefty radical feminists on this issue. But we don't get a platform in most mainstream media outlets, which is part of why I'm

certain to you for having. That's 100% accurate. But I really want to walk through your thinking. Okay. So in chapter one of your book, and I do read the whole book, but when I do an interview with anybody, I know pretty much what their point of view is. You say, people are being forced legally and socially to accept the lies of gender identity. What are the lies of gender identity, very specifically?

Thanks for asking. So every single human being on the face of the planet is either female or male. And it doesn't matter if any individual people have an identity that they claim makes them somehow the opposite sex or no sex or sex. some sort of material, some sort of third sex that simply doesn't exist. And so when I talk about the lie of gender identity, I'm talking about a political movement that is very well-funded and extremely powerful. Okay, let me stop you there. So you believe in biology, as millions of people do.

You're born either a male or a female. Now, in your mind, if you want to change your gender, you can do that now, because of medical advances. And if you just want to identify as a woman, even though you're not going to get the surgery, you have the freedom to do that under our Constitution. But you're seeing that the progressive left is taking this further and disturbing, right, women by allowing men, biological men, into their facilities. They're forcing the women to accept biological men in their facilities. That's the primary beef, right? That's definitely one of them. We do need to clarify, though, that no matter how many hormones

a person takes or how many surgeries a person has, no one ever changes sex. It just doesn't happen. So there are some people who have been lied to and persuaded to undergo invasive, damaging, and harmful hormonal treatments and surgeries who now gravely regret it. They were told and promised by the medical professionals that they could change sex and they can't. No one can ever change sex. A trans man, man going a woman can't bear a child. You're correct to that. Here's the most important question that I have for you. Why? Why does the progressive left want to create gender chaos, which is what I call it, among children, and then supports a all of this pronoun garbage, all of this kind of stuff. Why? What is, what is driving that?

So there's a tremendous amount of money behind this movement, which I talk about in chapter six of the book. I talk about Big Pharma and what I refer to as the ghouls in the medical establishment, who actually are very actively promoting the idea that people can change sex, even though they know it's not true. Okay, that's economic-based, but I'm talking philosophically. You are absolutely correct. You cannot be a liberal American in this country anymore if you don't accept the fact that people can change their gender and then should have full rights of whatever gender they go to. You can't operate within the liberal precincts if you don't believe that anymore. Why? Why? What ignited this.

Well, part of what I'm trying to do with my book is established that you actually can. You actually can be a liberal or a progressive, if you like, and push back against the homophobic, sexist, lying. One person who has done that in this country with any visibility. Just what? With any visibility, no. And that's, you know, I make. You're not going to do it.

So you can do it, but nobody is going to do it because they'll be hammered by the media that is sympathetic to the trans situation. You know that's true. Of course. And I say in the book, if even one member of the Democratic Party in Congress, and I would love it if it were a woman, but I'll take it if it's a man, if one member of one Democrat in the United States Congress stood up and said, no men are women, then the whole thing would crumble because it's all built on a house of cards. And so what I'm... I don't know about that. I don't think the press is ever going to, the media is ever going to admit that of what you're saying. And I think that person would be torn pieces and as an example to other people who may dare. So I'm going to

ask you one more question. A book is the reckoning. You might be right. And if you're right, let me give you a plug, Kara. Let me plug your book. All right. That's why you're here. The book is the reckoning, how the Democrats and left betrayed women and girls. All right. Now you, you are a very divorced. voted progressive leftist. Are you still apart from this issue? Well, absolutely. But I will say, and I speak in the book, yes,

I have absolutely no intention of voting in the 2024 presidential election unless the Democrats change course. You might be right that they won't. I am fully prepared to accept totally right. I'm fully prepared to accept that. But what I'm saying is that if they don't, then Democratic women need to speak up with our voices and with our votes. All right. Kara Dansky, thank you very much.

We appreciate it. Have a great holiday season. Here's the gem from the No Spin News Vault. All right. Joining us now from Austin, Texas. This is a guy I've known for decades, a presidential historian, Douglas Brinkley. author of many, many fine books, the latest being American Moonshot, John F. Kennedy and the Great Space Race makes a excellent Christmas gift. All right, based on what I've said so far, Doug, what's your impression of the Trump history tour?

Well, you know, Bill, it's fascinating because most presidents get out and out of office and try to quickly do a memoir. I noticed that President Trump has a book out about more of a kind of photo type of book, but you're really developing a transcript in oral history of Trump. And it's his subduedness, I find fascinating in the sense that I think he put up his main defense on January 6th with you, which is that he did request from the Secretary of Defense and to Pelosi that there would be more troops. surrounding the Capitol. And I think that's important to follow that path, because that will be Donald Trump's defense in front of the Congressional Commission. And second, when he said nice things

about Barack Obama and was pretty calm about the Biden family, it showed me, if you're correct, and I believe you are, that he's going to be running for president, all things considered in 2024, he did, I mean, in 2026, he did seem to, you know, want to show himself as moving a little bit more towards center right, not hard right. You know, when he's campaigning, he really goes after people, but I think he's taking this exercise with you seriously as creating a more sober-minded, did less euphoric or, you know, type of, you know, memory for people. And it's a strategic movie the way he's playing this right now. Well, and I did have extensive conversations.

I'll tell you again that I did not tell President Trump any of the questions. I never do that. I'm a journalist. Journalists don't do that, okay? But I did say that this is very serious because we have four. camera is recording everything. We are getting transcripts and the only two people in the transcripts will have them in the world is me and him. They're not going out to the press, they're not going anywhere. I said, if you want to establish a baseline of your presidency, here is where you can do

it. And in front of 12,000 witnesses. So I think the audience was a little stunned. As I said, some of them thought it was going to be some rally and we were going to go seeing country music songs. No. But I must compliment the 45th president of the United States. He didn't break a sweat. He didn't tell me anything that wasn't untrue. And believe me, we checked. So we checked Christopher Miller. And everything that he said, we checked. All right, because that's who we are. And so I think the importance of this is vast. And then the success of it, Doug, shows the country How much the press hates Donald Trump, and that hatred's going to grow. And even when he has a success, like these shows, I mean, more than 30,000 tickets sold in the middle of a pandemic?

Who can do that? It reminds me of when Theodore Roosevelt, it was the last president who was sitting president and then decided to run again as ex-president. We talked about Grover Cleveland doing that in the 19th century. Theodore Roosevelt did it in the 20th. The difference is Donald Trump is not going to run a third party like TR did with the Bull Moose. He's pulling together the GOP. And I think Lindsey Graham early on had warned him earlier this year that you don't need to go far right anymore. They love you.

You can tack a little bit towards the center. And I felt that that was a baseline that he was making with you. And I think your word baselines the perfect word. I felt that he's really starting to leave tracks on almost like doing a memoir with you, which is going to have great historic value. And these will get out. You and President Trump might own the transcripts, but they'll leak out somewhere, somehow somebody in a crowd that big will have them.

And so he has to err on the side. I would think of caution when he's dealing with anything that might have legal implications. But he was trying to come up as a good guy with you with the way I think he's, He answered that Obama question. He's known for the birther bit with Obama. And here he's saying, I like them both. And that will play well for more center conservatives, but not the hard right.

Well, look, when he asked me about running, I said to him, and as I said many times, presidents from Bill Clinton on have asked me my opinion on certain things. And as an American, if a president asked me an opinion, I'm going to give him the opinion, all right? So I said, look, if you're going to run again, if you really want to do that, because you know they're going to put you through hell.

I mean, as I said, the president's going to hate him more, if possible. I don't know if that's possible, if they are. Okay, you've got to run on your record. You've got to run on your record. You can't run on draining the swamp or the election was a fraud or any of that. You got to run on what you did foreign affairs. okay, what you did on the border, what you did in economics, how you contained inflation. And I said, that's what this is all about. I did ask him about the economy, not a lot because

the economy is kind of a ponderous thing and people understand. But you know what? He didn't take a lot of cheap shots on Biden. He, a few, a few, all right, that, because I asked him flat out. I said, do you think he's a diminished man? Do you think he knows what he's doing in there? and Trump could have wailed on that. He said, President Trump said, I think other people are advising him and he's doing what they tell him to do. And by the way, do you think that

as a presidential historian about Joe Biden? Yeah, Biden's had a very rough year and I would have thought that Trump on these rallies would have just been punching away at Biden making inflation the big issue, talking about the failure in Afghanistan,

the problems with vaccination, dissemination. But instead, he, again, is taking a little different tact. I'd be curious to ask you, Bill, on COVID. I mean, does he seem to be proud of Operation Warp Speed? Yes. Is that something he's going to run on? I don't know if he'll run on it. I think he's going to run more on China owes us and everybody else. Money was hard on that reparations thing, which he had never said before. But what he did say in the area that I got into, is Donald Trump's a deal maker. That's how he conducted his whole presidency, making individual deals. Well, he hauled in those pharmaceutical companies and he said, if you can do this,

I'll pay you this amount of money. All right? The government will pay you billions and billions of dollars if you can do it. That's how it got done. Because they went back and said, whoa, we're going to get all this money. So we full court press it. And he was, he was wasn't so going, I did it, I did it, I did it, I did it, like he usually does. All right, Donald Trump does that a lot. He didn't do that this time. He just said, we made him a deal as maybe the Godfather once said, they couldn't refuse. And it worked.

Would you, Bill, consider bringing these out in a book form with President Trump? I don't know. I mean, I'm just trying to get through the next two shows. Yeah. And, you know, he's going to be judged by crowd size. That's going to be the media story is how large are the crowds. And your feeling is they couldn't be bigger. Well, I mean, if you do four shows and you've sold already 30,000 tickets with probably another four or five thousand to come, you do the math.

You do the math. Nobody can do that. No one. Yeah, I think most ex-presidents people judge how much advanced money they get for their memoir. How much did Barack Obama get paid or how much? And if Trump wanted, Trump's, the book you mentioned in Trump, has sold 200,000 copies at 75 bucks of pop and they ran out of books. So I don't, but I'm not even involved with that.

And I can't tell anybody how much President Trump's getting paid. It's my production company, as I mentioned, that's putting this on. But I'll tell you what, there's nobody in the world that could command the kind of money that he's making. and the audience that has already purchased the tickets. Yet, if you read on the Internet, you would think that this is a bomb, there's nobody there. And that brings me the last question for you. This is a game changer, Doug.

When you can lie about the President of the United States with impunity, you can say whatever you want to say, no matter how unfair and inaccurate it is, then where do we go from there? What's the anecdote to that? Antiddle. What is the antidote to that? Well, I think it's just showing clips like you're doing

and showing the enthusiasm. You know, people are always on whatever your future performances are. I know you're going to Houston and Dallas. Everybody's looking for Trump to say a blunder, something that's going to be destructive to his career in the media world. in many ways, if he can come out of all this unscathed, I think he will be advanced. I had one quick question.

Is there any possibility, Bill, in the scenario of him becoming Speaker of the House, as some have intimated, if you think that's just none? None. So what the Trump apparatus is now is fundraising for the next run. That's the entire apparatus. How is Trump's media or? organization going to play into that. Listen, I'm not involved with his campaign at all.

I had to deal with them as far as marketing these shows. So I don't know. I can't answer that question. What I can say with certainty is that he wants to be president again. He believes that he has enough votes to win, particularly because President Biden is doing so poorly. and he doesn't believe President Obama has a capacity to come back. You know, with inflation the way it is now in November, 8.3% of, Doug.

Now we're talking a pain level. So it may be too early for the Republican Party, you know, we'll see next midterms. But Trump really believes that he can do it. And that's where 100% of his energy is focused. And he seemed very calm and collected. Did that surprise you, that his demeanor was... Well, I told him if he wasn't calm and collected, that I would have to hang around with him more,

and he didn't want that, all right? So that was an incentive. And I was the whip guy. I was the one that told the people who, you know, sort of yell and knock it off. Okay, so he didn't have to do any of that. I was the bouncer. Anyway, Doug, look, I hope you get to see the Houston show.

If you do get to see it, I'd like you to come back. maybe next week, and we'll talk about it. And thank you very much for your comments today. Hey, thank you, Bill. Merry Christmas. See you. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the No Spin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com.