Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - December 23, 2023

Episode Date: December 23, 2023

Listen to this week's No Spin News interview with Bernie Goldberg, Bishop Robert Barron, Pollster Sean Bartlett, and Former NYPD captain and criminal justice professor John Eterno. We also visit the N...o Spin News archives and Bill's conversation with Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Joining South in Florida, the purveyor of bernard Goldberg.com, very fine website. I will be on that website, being interviewed, grilled mercilessly by Mr. Goldberg. I believe I'm going to be on there Wednesday, right? You're putting me on Wednesday? I'm correct. You'll be grilled by a white, straight, Jewish, male who apparently i didn't know this is an oppressor
Starting point is 00:00:34 um i'm an answer is that mean you're is that mean you're bringing a guest host in okay so i'm looking forward to that grilling which will uh take place on wednesday now i just count 18 to 24s americans even though i've got two of them i've got two of them all right Right. And one of them really is astute. The other's a little shaky. But they don't know anything back over when you were 18 to 24. I was horrifying. I was just horror. I should have been deported during the 18 to 24 group. Well, the problem with the 18 to 24 group is that they're not going to be 18 to 24 forever. and they're going to carry this anti-Semitic garbage with them when they get older. Do you think so?
Starting point is 00:01:34 You know, they don't evolve out of that, as many in the Vietnam era did? Yeah, that's how it usually works. But who would have thought that, I forget the percentage you gave of young people who think the massacre, the slaughter on October 7th wasn't a terrorist attack and the percentage that thinks Jews are oppressors, who would have thought those numbers would exist? So yes, some will wise up, but a lot won't. Now, I think that most Americans are not anti-Semitic. Yeah, I agree. Totally agree. In your career, you've been everywhere, done everything, you rival me as far as, I've been to 85 countries. I think you're probably been close to that, right?
Starting point is 00:02:28 into a lot of places. Not India and not in the Arab world. I've been to Israel, but yeah, I've been to a lot of places. Okay. In your experience at CBS News coming on up, working your way up to the correspondent position, and then through now, have you Bernie Goldberg experienced anti-Semitism? Can I begin earlier than CBS in high school? Sure. So I had one, I think America is a great place, and it's a great place for Jewish people. So I may disappoint you in that. I don't have too many examples, but in high school, one kid, one kid confronted me in the cafeteria about something I wrote in the student newspaper that he didn't like,
Starting point is 00:03:19 and he used an anti-Jewish slur at me. And it almost became a brawl like an, you know, like an animal. animal house brawl in the cafeteria, but a Christian friend of mine intervened on my behalf and got between us before it got out of hand. But that was only one incident. But when I was at CBS, and it wasn't other CBS people, there was a guy named J.B. Stoner. I don't know if you know the name, Bill. Yeah, you're a Nazi. A world-class bigot. I mean, he said things in public that I wouldn't repeat on your show in public about black people. I know he is. Right. Okay, and he represented James Earl Ray and the FBI suspected J.B. Stoner of being involved in the murder of Martin Luther King.
Starting point is 00:04:08 So he's a lawyer and he's covering somebody who kidnapped the publisher of the big newspaper in Atlanta. So he go to his house and he meets us in the yard and the cameraman, a good old boy from Nashville, says, I got to, I'll introduce everybody. I don't want your name going out here. So he introduces the sound man, the light man. He introduces himself as John Smith. That was his real name. And then he introduces me as, and here's our correspondent, Bernie. J.B. Stoner goes into his house.
Starting point is 00:04:43 You ready for this? Goes into his house and hands us bumper stickers. This is during the Arab oil boycott. The bumper sticker says oil, yes, Jews, no. Oil, yes, Jews. No. And one of the people, one of my friends in the crew, I assume it was, without my knowledge, puts it on the bumper sticker, my rear bumper sticker. And I'm driving around Atlanta for three or four days. You should have gotten that guy, boy. I hope you got him. I was doing that. Well, I realize it. But I, you know, I'm actually, I'm actually glad to hear that you didn't run up against a lot of anti-Semitism in your life.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I believe that Americans, most of them, I'd say 80% of them, are not anti-Semitic. But the media drives this anti-Semitic thing. You know it's driving it. It's concentrating on the nuts at Cornell and at Columbia, at Harvard, at Penn, at MIT. It zeroes in gives them all kinds of air time. But the good college kids get zilch. They get nothing. So it's skewed. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:05:56 No, you're hitting on a very important point, actually. And that is those students you're talking about are, they're ingrained with DEI, diversity, inclusion, or equity and inclusion, which is a farce in and of itself. But DEI's philosophy basically comes down to this. It's as simple as there are two groups, the oppressed group and the oppressor group. If you're white and you're a straight white male or Jewish, even female, you're in the oppressor group. And the difference between the anti-Jewish bigots on the right, the white supremacists, the neo-Nazis, we know that they're idiots. These people are professors, their administrators at elite colleges, their students at elite colleges. and they could say all they want that they're not anti-Jewish, they're anti-Israel.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But when they say nothing, absolutely nothing, about the atrocities that go on daily in the Arab world, where if you're gay, you can be thrown up a building. If you're a woman, you don't have rights. They say nothing about that. And the only time they go out and demonstrate is when it's Israel, the only Jewish state on the planet. So their contention that they're anti-Israel, not anti-Jewish, I don't think so. I think they're anti-Jewish. And it's from the progressive elite left. No doubt about it in my mind. From the very beginning, the progressive movement has been anti-Israel.
Starting point is 00:07:33 All right, Bernie, I will see you on Wednesday on bernard goldberg.com. I'm ready for the, for the, whatever you throw at me. It should be a very interesting deal. Are you ready? Do I look not ready? All right. I'm ready. Okay, thanks for helping us out. And you have a happy holiday down there, okay? We really appreciate it.
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Starting point is 00:09:15 host columnist and the host of the brand new podcast, Podforce One. Every week, I'll sit down for candid conversations with Washington's most powerful disruptors, lawmakers, newsmakers, and even the president of the United States. These are the leaders shaping the future of America and the world. Listen to Podforce One with me, Miranda Devine, every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. You don't want to miss an episode. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Let's now turn to the Christian view of anti-Semitism. And I'm going to bring in perhaps the most eloquent, high-profile spokesperson for the Catholic faith in America.
Starting point is 00:10:08 His name is Bishop Robert Barron. He's out of the Diocese of Winona, Rochester, Minnesota. He has founded a group called Word on Fire that Catholics read and pay attention to. All right, Bishop, you just heard Bernie Goldberg. Now, when I was in Catholic school, sometimes in solitary confinement by punishment from the nuns, I was taught that anti-Semitism was a sin against the Catholic church, Christian religion, against Jesus God. I was taught it was a fairly serious. It was a fairly significant sin. Does that hold? Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I mean, prejudice against any group would be a sin, but in a very special way, I'd say, prejudice against Jews. Pius XI.11 said that we Christians are all spiritually Semites, that we're all Jews by our spiritual inheritance. Jesus, we say, is the fulfillment of Israel. Vatican II, in its statement, Nostre Tate, made a very strong statement against any
Starting point is 00:11:14 form of anti-Semitism. So I think the nuns that taught you were right on target, and they've been confirmed by the church's teaching ever since. Now, there has been controversy between Israel and the Catholic Church, particularly Pope Francis, who doesn't want Israel to wage war against the Palestinians. He just came out yesterday because there were two Catholics who were killed allegedly by Israeli forces, but it's so foggy in there, it's very hard to tell. And then when Jewish people hear that, the Pope is saying, criticizing the Netanyahu government, some of them believe that Pope's not sympathetic to the Jewish religion at all. Yeah, I don't think that's fair. When he was in Argentina, he was very close to the Jewish community
Starting point is 00:12:07 and counts a number of prominent rabbis among his friends. I mean, I don't think it's true at all it, he's personally anti-Semitic. I think what he's saying, Bill, is Israel has a right self-defense. That's part of Catholic social teaching. But also, as you know, in the just war theory, in the waging of war, we have to be both discriminating and proportional. And so I think what he's urging is that those two principles be honored. You know, it's always a prudential judgment to what degree we're legitimately
Starting point is 00:12:37 proportional and discriminating. But as I read him, I think he's just insisting upon that part of of the church's social teaching. Yeah, and there is a, in a Catholic church, a righteous defense that you're allowed to defend yourself against the evildoers. And I mean, look, there's nobody on earth that knows more about terrorism than I do because I wrote the book, Killing the Killers in Hamas, top of the chart, top of the chart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Let's shift into Christmas, as you know, Bishop, and I expect to get to heaven because of this. I saved Christmas in America. I don't know where you were at that point, but it was a huge campaign in the early part of the century for retailers and towns and counties to banish the word Christmas. And we went on Fox News night after night and we just put up that this department store was ordering their employees not to say the word Christmas. This town was taking the crash out and all of that stuff. And we want, because of money, because the people listening to me, and I got a huge amount of attention, all right, wouldn't go to the stores that I named that wouldn't say the word Christmas. So we want.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And here in the Northeast, Christmas is back. Almost everywhere you go, it's Merry Christmas. They say happy holidays, too, but Christmas dominates. Is that now over that controversy about not saving Christmas? Is that over? I hope so. I think you're right. It's changed in the course of my lifetime. I think of the last, you know, many years. We watched it move from a certain antipathy toward a greater acceptance. And you're quite right. And the way you fought it years ago, that was a fight worth having because it was a stupid position, say that somehow Christians have to hide their Christianity in the public forum. As you well know, there's nothing in the founding documents or in the ethos of our country that would dictate that we have to hide our religion in the public square. that we don't have an officially recognized religion in our country. Sure, that's one thing, but then say for a second that we have to hide our religion publicly.
Starting point is 00:14:48 So that was a good fight to have. I'm glad we had it. And I think one of the most important things today is that religious people can come together in the public square and have a real conversation, a real argument. There's a middle ground between religious violence and a kind of religious indifferenceism. And it's called religious engagement and argument in the public square. that's what I'm for okay the Christian point of view is that we honor Jesus's birthday and it wasn't on December 25th you know you read killing Jesus and we did the
Starting point is 00:15:22 whole history there but it's a nice day to have it it's dark and cold in many places particularly where you are in Minnesota it's a nice nice day to have in a season but the worthiness of Christmas was picked up by US grant the president of the United States who said, I'm designating this day as a federal holiday. Out of respect, not pushing religion, but out of respect for a theology that has helped the United States. And if everybody, I say to my non-Catholic friends and even the people who hate Catholics because of the scandals and other things, I say, look, if everybody followed what the Nazarene put forth, wouldn't have any wars, would have any strife, would we? And why shouldn't
Starting point is 00:16:16 not be honored? Why shouldn't that be honored? And that's what we're doing here in America. Well, I think, too, you know, the church fathers summed up Christianity with the phrase, God became man, that man might become God. And what they meant was, by this great act of the incarnation, God's inviting deification, that we can become sharers in God's nature. Well, there is a political implication of that because that's where human dignity is grounded. Yes, in our intelligence and our will and our freedom and so on, but ultimately in our destiny, that we're destined to be citizens in heaven. And from that destiny comes our dignity.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And I would say that any healthy democracy has to rest finally upon a keen sense of human dignity, which is why I would link Christmas and the great claim that it makes to the ideals of our democracy. Well, that's what the founding fathers did. It was a brawl between Patrick Henry and his crew that wanted the United States to be designated a Christian country and Ben Franklin and Madison and Jefferson as I write about in killing the witches. I'm going to send you that book. You need to read that book, Bishop. I've read that one yet. Yeah, that's a good one for you because it was a real tug in the beginning of this country about how to handle the religious aspect.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And it all stem from Salem. It all stemmed from that mora that went on there. So I'm going to give you the last word. Your view, Christmas in America, 2003. Go. Well, I think it's important for us as Americans, as Christians, to celebrate Christmas for the reason I just articulated. There's no greater guarantee of our dignity than that God has reached out to us,
Starting point is 00:18:01 has become small that he might raise us up. That basic conviction, I mean, whether you're explicitly Christian or not, That basic conviction, I think, is essential to our democracy. When we lose a sense of God's embrace of us, in pretty short order, you move toward totalitarianism. You move toward an indifference to human life. But I'm with Tom Holland here, the great English historian, that so many of our values, whether we know it or not, are grounded in these Christian claims. And one of them is the incarnation, which leads to deification. That's where our sense of human dignity, I think, ultimately comes from.
Starting point is 00:18:40 All right, Bishop, thanks very much for helping us out. And we once again thank Bernie Goldberg, one of our best discussions of the year, I think. Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before. And we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics of the mainstream media, won't. So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2 p.m. East Coast every day. Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:19:43 Listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. I asked for a pollster today. I wanted somebody different because, you know, we like to get a wide variety of voices
Starting point is 00:20:03 on No Spine News. We got Sean Bartley. He's coming to us from Ash, Linda, Ohio. He is a poster for American Pulse Research and Polling. Okay, my numbers from Monmouth, and again, I'm not endorsing the Monmouth poll. It's not been great in the past, but does that coincide with what you're seeing? Yeah, we're seeing these kind of numbers everywhere. Wall Street Journal had President Biden at his lowest.
Starting point is 00:20:34 approval rating in the history of their survey with him as president. Our American polls polling has shown the same thing. Really, Biden's approval rating tracking with approval rating on the economy. And you got right to it. The economic numbers specifically for what people are feeling at the gas pump and at the grocery store, those aren't changing. And it's what they're going to experience here in the next couple of weeks and through the end of the year. That's what they're going to have when they're having people over for Christmas dinner. It's what they're going to have when they're traveling. And it's what they're going to have on the inflation numbers on the mama poll is what they're going to have when they pay for Christmas
Starting point is 00:21:26 either this year or next year. Okay. As I said, I don't expect the spending problem for the American public. any better. But you have a situation now where we stare-stepping to the conventions in the summer. So Iowa looks like a lock for President Trump, former President Trump right now. Is that what you guys have? Yeah, that's what we're seeing everywhere. If you go to the Des Moines Register poll, which is considered the gold standard out there,
Starting point is 00:21:59 It shows President Trump, actually, in their December poll at over 50% for the first time. Okay, so let's assume that Trump wins along the lines of what the Des Moines Register is saying. That means DeSantis has got to go, right? Because DeSantis made his stand in Iowa, and he's not going to get any money to run his campaign if he gets whacked in Iowa, which would it look like he would? Is that what you expect to happen? Yeah, well, I think one of the things that you're going to see is all the numbers have shown Nikki Haley gaining on that second place that used to be the DeSantis spot in Iowa in particular. And then you go to New Hampshire. She's the clear second place person.
Starting point is 00:22:46 You go to South Carolina where she used to be governor. She's in second place again. Okay, I don't expect Haley to be in second place in Iowa. I think DeSantis will beat her, but I think that Trump will win so dominant. Now, DeSantis gets out of the race, and he's going to have to. Most of those voters are going to go to Trump, I think. Right? So the DeSantis crew goes over to Trump.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah, in our American polling, we asked, who's your second-place choice of Republican primary voters? And the second-place choice of DeSantis' vote. voters was Donald Trump. And Nikki Haley at that time really wasn't registered. So that's what the media is not telling anybody that the DeSantis thing in Iowa, coming up January 15th, very, very quickly, could very well help Donald Trump. Now, New Hampshire is not a friendly state to Trump. Christie has banked everything there.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It's not going to make it. Haley, I think, will do well in New Hampshire. I think she'll, and then the media will get behind Haley. after that. And then they go on. I think it's South Carolina next. Is that what you said? South Carolina? That's correct. Yeah. Okay. And then South Carolina's Trump territory. But Haley is a favorite daughter there as the governor of the state. Without the Santhas, the Santos voters go to Trump. Trump should win that pretty handily. So here's a question, Sean. Yes. Is it all over after South Carolina? Is that it? Then Trump.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Well, you know, in our most recent poll of Republican primary voters, 70% say that they think Donald Trump is the nominee. So even people who aren't voting for them. And the bookies in London, Ladbroke, they got Trump, you know, big to the nominee. Final question for you. You know the Democrats. They're pretty sophisticated in their way. they run their campaigns. Everybody knows Biden is in severe, severe trouble.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Is there any indication of a number two if Biden does submit his resignation for health reasons, which is what he would do? Is there any indication of who would then move in from your polling? Yeah. So we've asked that of folks, like, who would you want to see? First, you know, really a third of, only a third of voters definitely want Biden to stay at the top of the ticket. And then a third say that they definitely want somebody else.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And when asked who they want, Gavin Newsom is somebody who jumps up there. But it's really shaping up just the way that they've created the primary calendar that we're talking. The only way they're going to be able to change nominees at this point is to do it at convention. And the primary, you can't get on the ballot. You can't, I know that.
Starting point is 00:25:53 But that's the goal. Again, going to the convention with the delegates don't have Biden there and they'll elect somebody. Newsom's not very strong. I don't think he will be strong. He's run California into the ground, but that's just my opinion. Hey, Sean, have Merry Christmas. Thanks for helping us out. Really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Merry Christmas. Thanks for having me. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So I looked around for. a criminologist in this area, and we found a good one. Dr. John Eterno, he teaches at Malloy University on Long Island. He was a captain, retired a captain in the NYPD in 2004. He joins us now from Brockville Center. Dem, say your name right, Eterno, is that correct? Yeah, that's fine, Bill. Okay. All right, so you're on the job for 20 years. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:46 and in the time you were there, you saw the worst of it, the crack wars, and then you saw Giuliani and Bloomberg, two mayors, pretty much turn it around so that the bad guys were on the run. Now it's arc back to the bad guys are ruling the streets. What is the essential problem in New York City as you see it? New York City has a number of problems. First, I think the mayor needs to get more behind the police. His rhetoric at times is backward. He needs to stand behind the police. Judges need to stand up behind the police. But most of all, politicians. There are a number of things going on in New York City, one of them being the city council is passing a bill that they want police to record every single incident. This is just crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:44 every single thing. It's insane. Let me explain it, doctor. So the liberal city council in New York, any interaction that a police officer has with a civilian, police officer has got to go back to the precinct and write it up, which takes them off the street.
Starting point is 00:28:03 NYPD is undermanned as it is, and Mayor Adams, who's a former police officer himself, may even cut the force down from here to pay for the migrants. I mean, this is so insane. But when the police union won't stand up and say all of this crazy political stuff is putting our officers in danger, doctor, can you figure out why that man wouldn't do that? I don't know. I mean, you have to ask him, but in my view, this is something you really need to advertise.
Starting point is 00:28:36 You've got to get on every program you possibly can and let people know how difficult the job being a police officer is, particularly in a democracy. The officers are the front line of democracy at work. This is what they do. And when they get attacked in a subway, for something as minimal as, you know, smoking, it's something that's an affront to the public, not just an affront to the officers themselves. This is an affront to democracy.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You know, when officers in the street get attacked like this, this is a... That's true because the last line of defense, the savages and the folks are the police. Did you feel in physical danger when you were on the job, Doctor? Absolutely. There were times where I've gone after people with guns, knives, people that spit at me.
Starting point is 00:29:29 But today, it's very different. What I'm trying to say is, at that point in time, at that point in time, you knew you get backed up by your union and most of the time by the police chiefs. Right, Kelly and Ratten and these people. Right. 100%. I knew all the time that the people behind me would back me up.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I knew the union would stand behind me. And most of the politicians, I'm not going to say all of them, but most of them stood behind the police, particularly the state, many of these officers, something like bail reform was just unconscionable. People wouldn't even think of that. And letting these two thugs get out on, on being released on their own recognizance.
Starting point is 00:30:17 This is crazy. They are violent and it's a problem not just for police, but for the public and being safe, just walking in the streets and walking in a subway, we don't have that protection that we should feel from our politicians, from our police leaders, from our union leaders. We need that protection.
Starting point is 00:30:39 We need that. It's a difficult job as it is, but not to have that backing is unconscious. It is. It is. As a journalist, as a journalist who covered this city for decades, I've never seen this before. I've never seen a union president run and not stick up for his guys. You can spit in the face of a police officer now in New York City.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You can curse it them, push them. Nothing. You wouldn't even be brought in for that. These guys wailed on the cops and beat them, and they were in for maybe three hours, no bail, out doing whatever they want to do. So you've got to feel, and this is the last question, the people on the job, the cops on the job, they know nobody has their back. Last word. Yeah, there is no doubt that police officers is the front line of democracy. Unfortunately, they have no choice.
Starting point is 00:31:40 They're out there. It's a tough, tough job. And unfortunately, for them, they don't feel back. And they need to feel that backing of the public, of politicians, and of their own leaders. And it's not happening. And that's why they're all leaving en masse. Hey, Dr. Merry Christmas. Thanks for helping us out.
Starting point is 00:31:56 We really appreciate it. Thank you. Merry Christmas, Bill. Here's the gem from the No Spin News Vault. So joining us now from Washington is the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, the almost 17 years in the House of Representatives, representing the Bakersfield District of California. So you're a busy guy. We really appreciate you taking time just today.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Corinne Jean-Pierre called you a MAGA fanatic and all of that. And the context was that the budget hearings are coming up. And there's some pressure on a Biden White House to at least make a comment. compromise with Republicans to get a budget done. Let me walk me through the process. It looks like the last time you met with President Biden was February 1st.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Is that true? That's true. In February 1st, I went to sit down with them. We're talking about the debt ceiling. The budget is a whole different issue. The debt ceiling is, for your viewers, is like giving your child a credit card. They charged it all the way up. You hit the limit.
Starting point is 00:33:01 You just raised the limit. You're responsible for paying what they charged on it. But do you just raise the limit? look at what they're spending before you do that now america's hit their limit we're at 31 trillion dollars in debt we've we've never been this high with the percent of GDP our debt is so large is bigger than our economy plus 20 percent we've only been in this situation during world war two i and so the real question the reason the reason i mentioned the budget is because you can't get a budget unless you guys agree on how much government spending is going to go forward
Starting point is 00:33:34 and the trade i understand correct me if i'm wrong is that you will raise the debt limit in return for assurances that the next 10 years, there will be a cap on spending. Is that correct? That is correct. We will raise the debt limit. We need to raise the debt limit. But would you just raise the debt limit without looking how you're spending? No, no. Nobody watching this program. Nobody, look, the Democratic Party will just spend into oblivion. That's what they do. And the Republican Party wants fiscal restraint. voters can choose what they want. So you talk to Biden in person, February 1st, no more meetings.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Have you talked to him on the phone about it? No, he hasn't called me. Now, I've run into him other times. No, it's all right, all right. I just want the structure. If you want to get to Joe Biden, how does that happen? How does your people put you together? Who's controlling access to him in the White House?
Starting point is 00:34:34 well you know we've talked to he's got representatives that work for him and they just say they won't meet with us so it's really awkward can you give me a name is that susan rice saying that who's right who's saying no no it's not susan rice it's uh he's got representatives that come to the capital that are his ledge people i've had my chief of staff talked to his people and uh i've told the president i sat down with them and we had st patrick's day lunch I said, Mr. President, we should get together again. And he keeps telling me, like, he saw me at the prayer breakfast the day after our first meeting. We're going to get together. He went to the Democrats' congressional retreat, and he says, I've got a meeting with Kevin. The only problem is he's never scheduled one with me. Well, he doesn't know. I've been very open.
Starting point is 00:35:23 He doesn't know what meetings he has. All right. I don't want to, I disparaged him before you came on the air. Not in a personal way, but I don't think he's a good president. In fact, I think he's a second worst president in our history next to James Buchanan. Anyway, let's get into the, there are three House investigations that my vast audience are very interested in. Number one, do you follow these investigations yourself closely? Closely, but I don't manage it.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I trust people. I believe in the Jim Collins, good to great. I find the right people in the right. So you're not micromanaging it, but you're in touch. I do not micromanage it. Okay. We keep in touch the chairs and we meet, but they make the decision. So the oversight committee is looking into Hunter Biden and the source of his income abroad and whether or not then Vice President Joe Biden got anything from that. Can you tell my audience who really needs to be updated? Yes. how far along is this investigation and what do you think of it i think this investigation is going
Starting point is 00:36:39 exactly correct i give a lot of credit to the chairman james comer and what he's going about doing and his own knowledge through the financial markets and through banking he's systematically and the frustration that some of your viewers will have is they want information quickly but one thing you always want to do when you're investigating something is making sure you're crossing the T's, dotting the eyes, you're not jumping at something, you're actually looking and reassuring and testing, is this true? And just last week, and the real problem we have is the Treasury has fought us all along the way for us to get information. The way they treated when Democrats were in the majority much different. So Comer just went down when they wouldn't give them some of the bank statements.
Starting point is 00:37:22 He said, okay, I'll come to Treasury. You don't need to send them to me. And it's appalling that the more we're finding. And since we began this investigation, what we did? have found so far is more of biden's family has been being paid and what's very interesting you're finding is the foreign areas that this money has been coming from and it's always coming to one entity then going and paying the biden family so we're continuing to follow wherever the money takes us and it might not get your answer tomorrow but at the end of the day we will follow wherever it takes us
Starting point is 00:37:56 and get the american public exactly what we find and the knowledge all right well i'll I'm glad to hear that because we, the people, deserve to know what the deuce is going on. The Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan, is after Alvin Bragg because he indicted former President Trump. So a judge ruled in favor of Jordan and Bragg has to come to Washington to testify in front of the committee. Is that something that you are aware of what is the direction of the questioning going to be? Do you know? Yes. Yeah, I work with Jim Jordan closely, and what it is, is Alvin Bragg is using federal money.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Now, we didn't say Alvin Bragg. We didn't subpoenaed Alvin Bragg to come in. We went and subpoenaed another individual who used to be a prosecutor with Alvin Bragg, left being a prosecutor, had written a book. And when we- So Bragg isn't going to show up. It's the guy who wrote the book. His name is Columbo, Palumbo, right? Palumbo, is that his name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Okay, so he's going to come in. But Alvin Bragg. Alvin Bragg went out to block us from talking to. Yeah, I know. This is a man that's going on to me. This is a man that's wrote a book. What is the worthiness of Palumbo coming in who hates Trump? Well, this is the one.
Starting point is 00:39:08 What you do in any investigation is you get all your information. And before you want to, what we're trying to find is how much federal dollars. What did they plan? It was this all political in the background. So what you're trying to find in it is all the facts that you can have before you get to the individual of where you want to ask. So Bragg might be called down. I would assume that he could, he's going to happen. Now, the third one is the border and the oversight committee and homeland security.
Starting point is 00:39:37 This is perhaps the most outrageous situation other than inflation in this whole country. 6.6 million migrants estimated to have entered the country under Biden's administration and record numbers of hard narcotics coming across the border as well. Mayorkas is an embarrassment. Every time he gets up there, he doesn't know, he's this and that. It's hard to believe that the Biden administration would be this incompetent, but there's got to be a reason why they are allowing the narcotics and the migrants in. Do you know the reason?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Look, I don't know the exact reason. I could speculate a lot, but you're 100% right that this is one of the most biggest, problems we have because our border is not we don't have operational control of our border i've been to almost every avenue of it and each one is different depending upon what cartel controls it if you go to tucson arizona well this is the highest number of percentage of godaways the people who come across they wear the exact same thing because the seniloa cartels they have to pay they wear camouflage outfits they have rug on their shoes it has the most gotaways because it's a vast and you've got a border situation that we'd have balloons to go up
Starting point is 00:40:58 to be able to monitor and see them, this administration has now cut them to try to lower their numbers. But these are not individuals who run up. But you don't have any why behind it? I just don't understand it. Why would you do this? Why would you allow more Americans to die every single day? The fentanyl that's coming here.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And, Bill, this is what I think people really need to have to think about. You know, the fentanyl comes from China. And I had this discussion with the president on February 1st. I said, why don't you call President Shee and tell them to end this and that you take real action about it? Because what they're doing is, it's the number one killer of people between the ages of 18 and 45. I want your viewers to think for a moment. What do you do between the ages of 18 and 45? This is when you reproduce.
Starting point is 00:41:42 This is your most productive year in business. But this is also the age group that defends us in the military to defend our freedom. And they're destroying it. 300 people a day will die from this, today and tomorrow. Look, she is going to do it. He doesn't care about that. It's Biden that she care. In the last administration, President Trump personally called she,
Starting point is 00:42:04 and we found the chemicals got stopped. But now these cartels, they don't have to wait to have a budget negotiations, to know where they're going to be funded. They're making billions of dollars. Sure. They're controlling. But they're controlling our southern border. Okay, let's shift that.
Starting point is 00:42:20 president knows it. Yeah, but why is he allowing it? And we can't get an answer to that. I'm not asking you to speculate, by the way. I don't think that's a fair thing to do. But I'm on a jihad to find out why a president of the United States would allow this to happen. I still don't know. There's speculation that he wants mass migration to, you know, have voting patterns change in the United States as they changed in California. Your home state, you know that well. That's the speculation. But let me get on to January 6th and the tape that you released to Tucker Carlson. I'm an honest man. You know that I'm, I shoot straight. I didn't get anything out of that tape at all. I got nothing out of it. I got a bunch of political people screaming to me, this and that.
Starting point is 00:43:06 In hindsight, should you have done that differently? No, I think I did it right. And this is what we are doing, right? So the Democrats told me there was like 14,000 hours of tape. Well, we find there's three, four times more than that. What I did, I didn't release the tape. I let Tucker's people come in and see it just like I had allowed you to come in and see it. I gave a forward ability for those who are defendants to come see it. I'm of belief the more transparency you are the more honest, but also the American people have a right to know this. So they're confused and make their own judgment. But Americans are confused. It's politicized like everything is. That's Yeah, but it was politicized from the very beginning where Pelosi would not let.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And so what I'm trying to do is take the politics out of it because I don't predetermined, let people show and see what it is. All right. That's what we continue to see. Yes. As Speaker of the House, do you have any role in the upcoming Republican primaries at all? I mean, do you speak to Trump and DeSantis and Nikki Haley and whoever's going to get in? I mean, what's your role in that primary system?
Starting point is 00:44:21 I have no official role to pick and choose who should be the person, but as speaker and as individual who knows all, I talk to all of them all the time. Look, they're out on the road. They're hearing feedback. I want to hear it, but I also want them to know what we're doing in the house from the same perspective. So there's no favoritism.
Starting point is 00:44:37 In the end, will you endorse? I mean, you know, after the debates and stuff, will you throw? I think there is a very good chance I can endorse, but I don't determine who's going to. to win or others, but I think I need to work with whoever is going to be our nominee, and I've got to work with everybody who wants to run for. But you may endorse before the actual vote, you might say, I'm the Speaker of the House, and I think this is the best person.
Starting point is 00:44:57 You might do that. Yes, yes. I hope you come back here and tell us, because we really appreciate it. You know, and I'm not, I know how it works, and I've been doing this a long time. You didn't have to do this interview, and I just want my audience to know that I ran into you with the Super Bowl. We had a nice conversation. as I had never met you before.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And you said, hey, I'll come on in No Spin News. We'll kick it around. And you're a man of your word, your stand-up guy. I want everybody to know that. And I really appreciate your time, Mr. Speaker. Well, I appreciate you, and I look forward to coming back. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member.
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