Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - December 9, 2023

Episode Date: December 9, 2023

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Welcome to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. All right, joining us now from Charleston, South Carolina, is Dr. Clarissa Owens. She is the head of diversity, equity, and inclusion at that very fine school. And I almost sent my son there. We went down. We were very impressed by the College of Charleston. What a good, good school that is. So I have my own theory and based on facts about why African-Americans and Jewish people in New York City are at loggerhead sometimes.

But I want to hear your opinion on it first. Why do you think that is? Well, we got to first start. My name is pronounced Sherissa. I just want to let you know. Sherissa Owens. Oh, Sherissa. I'm sorry.

That's all right. It's a learning curve. My mistake. But no problem. But the detentions are historic, and it really is rooted in these tropes about each community, which leads us to where we are in this place right now. We have had so many challenges that overlap our identities, and both communities have exceedingly tried to fight for the equity and justice that each community deserves.

However, I've always asked the question, who benefits from me? this tension. Who is the community that gets the most from these two communities fighting against each other, fighting within each other, and not working together to actually move towards a more equitable space for everyone in our communities or even in our cities? Well, the answer to that. The answer to that question is nobody benefits, doctor. Nobody benefits from any kind of hatred on either side. But there is a history up here in New York and the Northeast about Jewish people clashing with minorities. It's not just African Americans. Remember, this high school is just a minority across the board school. And these kids in that high school, I mean, they were

pretty vicious. So it has to do with Jewish landowners, apartment owners, okay, from the 19th century on, renting to poor people, immigrants, migrants, and there was a tension between. To this day, that exists. That's what the central force of it is here. Now, in the South, where you are, it's a different situation. How many Jewish people down there? Well, actually, let me take you back a little bit. I want to challenge that idea that we had Jewish community members who actually owned those buildings.

They were actually able to own the buildings because we have. have rules, we have policies, we have procedures, we had laws that allowed them to do that. Other communities could not. So that's where that tension goes. There is called provisional whiteness. At certain periods in our history, our Jewish community was able to purchase those buildings and in some cases was actually able to just rent to only people of color because they could not go anywhere else. So that is part of the tension. But as it kind of moved on into our modern day contemporary era, you know, they're starting to really realize how much of their opportunities that they've had throughout history, whereas they were able to purchase land or

purchase property or go to college and so on and so forth, how that gave them a leg up over those communities who has historically been excluded. And as a result, there's that tension. There's like, okay, well, you've had opportunities that we haven't had. And then there's also this concept of why are we dividing ourselves when we could come together about the exclusion of our lived experiences? Well, okay, but you can't, in any civilized society, take the sins of the past, all right, and then apply them to people who have nothing to do with it. And we're seeing up here, a virulent anti-Semitism in New York City, which has more Jews than Israel, okay? We're seeing really a dangerous anti-Semitism grow. Now, I'm not disputing what you say,

I think you're right. A lot of the resentment is passed down from generation to generation. We didn't have the opportunity to white people have. It's white privilege. All right. So now we're going to lash out against the white people of the Jews. That gets us nowhere, and it's fallacious thinking, or am I wrong? No, you're right. It doesn't get us anywhere. But when we are not teaching our people, our community, our students about how they are part of that community, for example, the Jewish community right now is grappling with the fact that they are very much as diverse as the United States themselves with Jewish people of color,

coming from so many different parts of the world. And that is a part of the education, as well as the professional development and even needs to be present in leadership, so that we do not continue the tension. This is just as much as part of education as it is for us to practice. That's true that you can't generalize about people of color or Jewish people because they're all, you know, as you said, there's diversity among the groups. But you can say with certainty that the anti-Semitism here in New York, and I think around the country as well,

being driven by the progressive left, that is an absolute fact, okay, and contains many minority members. They have signed on in Colombia, in Cornell, at MIT, at Harvard, at NYU, in hating Israel. They have signed on to that. That's coming from the progressive movement. I'll give it a last word? Well, I would say this. It's not so much as it is a certified fact as much as it is a lack of knowledge. There's ignorance which feeds the tropes that the Jewish community has all this power. There is this construct, this construct of powerlessness among the Jewish community, as well as powerfulness. And that is where the crux of this tension is. We need to go back to understanding why is this even a part of the narrative and how is it fueling the stereotypes

the as you have mentioned before the the anti-semitism from any community but particularly in this case the communities of color because there are communities there are people of color who are also Jewish and they are feeling they have to divide themselves that is not going to be any benefit to any human being but more specifically to any community so we really need to go back and start looking at how we need to re-educate ourselves. All right, doctor, that's your job, and I'm sure you do it well, and we really appreciate you coming on the program tonight. Merry Christmas to you.

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Ask your smart speaker to play the NY Postcast podcast, listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joining us now in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, is journalist Isaac Saul. He is the founder of Tangle News. So I get lots of mail saying, where do I go, you know, outside of my own operation? And I go to the Wall Street Journal.

But we have recently taken on Tangle. Semaphore, we looking at them. All right, these are independent agencies like mine. And they deliver good information. And Mr. Saul is the head of that. So I read somewhere where you're going to train. Transylvania University in Kentucky, and that's a real college. I actually know it.

And I can't believe you would enroll there because then you'd have to wear a black cape and all that. But anyway, you're going there to discuss why the profession of journalism has sunk so low in the Court of Public Opinion, correct? Yeah, I mean, if you look at any of the recent polling we have about how people feel about the media, you'll see pretty, pretty unbelievably bad numbers. I think a recent Gallup poll showed about 16% of Americans said they had a great deal of trust in television news and the numbers even lower for newspapers now. Pretty much the only thing that polls worse than the media these days is Congress, which is loathed by pretty much everybody currently.

So it is not a good time to be a reporter, at least in the sense that it's, you know, it's really hard to earn people's trust. And I think a lot of that is the media's own fault. I think we've done it to ourselves in a lot of ways. And it doesn't surprise me at all that that's the current state of things. Well, how did it happen, though? I mean, what do you think? There was a time when I was in grad school at Boston U,

getting a broadcast journalism master's degree, which the media was trusted. They were involved with Watergate at that point. They had aggressively covered the Vietnam War. and they were, you know, credible. That's the word. Cronkite, Chancellor, all those people. So what happened?

Yeah, so I talk about three main issues, which is transparency, hiring, and a general balance that we see in the media. So in terms of transparency, you know, the biggest issue for me is that most news organizations are not transparent about how, the mistakes they make happen. So when the New York Times gets a story wrong, like the bombing of a hospital in Gaza, they might issue a correction, but we're not totally clear on how that mistake

actually happened, why it happened, which leaves a lot of room for suspicion. We saw this, you know, during the Trump era, a lot of mistakes tended to go the wrong way, at least against Trump. So if you were somebody reading a lot of mainstream media, anytime you saw a major error, it was typically the kind of era that made Trump look worse than what the actual correction ended up looking like. And we didn't often get explanations about that. So that's one. Two is hiring, which is just that, you know, most news organizations are dominated by people with moderate center or left of center politics. There are very few conservatives or Republicans who are working in the industry. That's not some conspiracy theory. There's polls of journalists and media outfits all across

the country all the time. And they always show the same results. which is that a vast majority of people who work in the profession of journalism are people with center or left of center politics. And there are very few people on the right side of the political spectrum, which impacts the coverage that you see. And that brings me to balance, which is just, you know, if you read the New York Times in the Wall Street Journal covering the exact same event, you'll see them cover it in drastically different ways, which is a problem for both media outlets. Their coverage with, you know, presumably some of the best reporters in the world should be a lot more similar, but it's not. And that is just a reflection of the fact that a lot of media organizations are using their reporting to sort of espouse a worldview rather than tell honestly what's happening. How badly did the voting machine fiasco hurt Fox News?

I think it hurt them a lot. I mean, that's actually, it's funny you mention that because that's one of the examples I use, in my talk, which is that, you know, for Fox News, they were in a position where they were feeding their viewers what they wanted to hear, which is a really dangerous place to be as a news organization, you know, I know your politics, Bill, and I'm listening to you at the top, tell your audience that, hey, there's some evidence that Biden needs to be investigated, but there isn't smoking gun evidence that he should be impeached. And I think that's the right thing to tell your viewers. But a lot of conservative columnists are telling their audience that

The evidence is smoking gun and Biden should be impeached. And that's the wrong thing to tell your audience because it's not there. It's just trying to tell them what they want to hear to make sure that they like you and keep them happy. And Fox News is trying to tell its audience what they wanted to hear. Yeah, that's what they're all doing now because that's what it comes down to money. They can make money preaching to the choir. And if you look, I'll just give you a really good example. And you may run into this as a young journalist.

So when the election happened 2000, 2020, when it happened, about 1020, when it happened, about 10 days, two weeks after I told my audience that there wasn't enough evidence to present to the federal judges, because I was watching Supreme Court Justice Alito, who had swayed, over Pennsylvania. And I was watching what was going to be submitted to a leader who was sympathetic to this. He was sympathetic that there might have been fraud in Pennsylvania. Well, the Trump people didn't submit anything to him at all. And I said, you know what? At this point, you got to just go with what the election returns are because you don't have any hard evidence, you know, individuals running around saying, that's one thing. But, you know, you know, you know, you know, got to present it to the court of law. I must have lost a thousand premium members to Bill O'Reilly.com by saying that, all right? Then we're an independent as you are,

at Tangle. We're independent here. We depend on our viewers and listeners on the radio to support us and our sponsors. When you lose a thousand in two days, but I had to do it because that's me. been in that chair at Fox News at 8 o'clock with the O'Reilly factor, none of that would have happened. None of it would have happened because I would have come out, boom. I would have put Britt Hume on because he was of like mind and I would have just wiped it out. But I'm not there anymore. So Fox News, I don't know if it's ever going to recover its trust image among just regular the folks. The staunch conservatives, that's where they go still, but not to the numbers that they did. All right, last question for you. As an independent kind of guy, and the website is

retangle.com, very easy. Retangle. Do you believe that Americans really want to know the truth, Isaac? Or are they just comfortable in their ideological slot? They just want to hear what they believe. What do you believe? I'll tell you what, when I started this, I did not believe that Americans wanted to always hear the truth, even when it was hard for them. My instinct was that would be really hard to build a media company like this that shared views from across the political spectrum.

But as I've gone on building Tangle out, I'm starting to see that there are a ton of Americans who want that because even if people disagree with the other side of their own political positions, they want to understand them. And more than that, I think a lot of Americans are just exhausted. They're tired of the really nonstop stream of extremism on both sides of the media and both sides of the political spectrum. And they're interested in more nuanced.

They're interested in a better understanding of their neighbors. And I personally do feel like we have hit rock bottom in terms of how much people want to be in their own bubbles. So on that note, I am definitely optimistic. And I've seen it firsthand. I mean, we're a young media organization, but we've got 80,000 people on our mailing list. We've got a podcast, a YouTube channel. We have a huge audience that comes in every month to view our content, hundreds of thousands of people.

And that, to me, is a signal that we're doing something. There's a really big appetite for the country right now. Well, keep it up. Retangle.com. Thank you, Isaac. Really appreciate it. This is the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Power, politics.

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after to lend some wisdom, I hope. It's late. We're going to have to take a nap. But I'll be on. And so will, Sean Spicer. He is a News Nation political contributor. Also, the first TV lead-in to my program, The NOSBIN News. Spicer is really busy. Comes to us now from the University of Alabama. So anything new down there and anything going on we should know about?

I think there's a lot of excitement tonight for the reason that you laid out. There's a lot of people that want to see Desantis and Haley go at it. either of them can move the needle. And then what's the case that Rameswami and Christy, you know, make? Christy, as you point out, polling very low nationally, but he's making the case that he's only competing in New Hampshire and that he thinks he's going to win there or do really well there and get slingshot forward. I don't think that's going to happen, but that's his case equally concerning is Ramoswamy trying to figure out what, you know, aside from the fact that he has a boatload of cash, why he's still on stage. But, you know, it'll be interesting

because tonight is going to be the last time probably before the Iowa caucuses that we see these four on stage together. And this is their last chance because it's a national debate. It's here in Alabama. But the only people that really matter are about the 200,000 caucus goers in Iowa. Because if you can't make it out of Iowa, your campaign's over. Yeah. And look, I don't object to the debate. I just want to hear more from the two viable candidates.

And I don't know if I'm being unreasonable or not. if I were the Republican chief, I would have just said, we're only doing two because the polling numbers don't warrant the other two. Now, when you are analyzing a bit like this, there's not a real big difference in between DeSantis and Haley. They're conservatives, both of them. Haley, a little bit more moderate, I think, than DeSantis. I think you would agree with that. But do you have a question or two that you would throw it either or? Yeah, so first of all, I would argue that part of this is style, right? We've seen most Republicans generally are about 85% in agreement on most domestic and foreign policy issues.

But I think we saw in President Trump a willingness to take on the bureaucratic state and fight for policies that previous administrations had. That's different. So the style does matter for these folks. I think foreign policy matters, how you're going to take on China, what you're going to do, about our national security in terms of building up the military. The last debate, I thought the most insightful question was asked was from Hugh Hewitt when he talked about the size of a future Navy. Why? Because it really got you to understand their strategic thinking.

It wasn't about a number, saying 300 or 350. It was the rationale that went behind how they got to their number. And I heard, interestingly, Chris Christie and DeSantis really make an interesting case about how they would build the Navy specifically as a cudgel, against an increasingly provocative China in the South China Sea, especially as it relates to Taiwan. So for me, part of this is to understand their thinking and their rationale as much as their position. Okay. Do you know these people, Haley, and DeSantis personally? I know every one of them. Yep. Every one of them.

So give me a personality profile of Christy first. Well, I think Christy is sort of, without sounding insulting, he's New Jersey to the core. He sort of has a forget about an attitude, go right at the jugular. He's a, you know, sort of a brawler. You see that in how he attacks Donald Trump. I think Nikki Haley is much more of the sheer point. She's more of a statesman type of person, which is why she was a good fit at the UN. DeSantis comes across the way that you think he was.

He's an executive, but he's not the touchy-feely kind of politician that we're normally used to seeing run for president. And then Ramoswamy is, you know, he's just a flamethrower. He's a successful businessman that doesn't really care about using all the right words, and you see it on the debate stage. But what you see with him privately or publicly is pretty much what you see publicly, too. Okay. So Haley and Chrissy are not big fans of mine.

And I think that my temper, my analysis of them, all right? And that's wrong on my part. I shouldn't care what they think of me. Christy, I don't like it all because of the beach thing. Remember the COVID and then he's lounging on the beach by himself? That disqualified him for everything for me. Just as the French laundry disqualified the California governor. He went and he said, nobody can come out of the house because of COVID,

but I'm going to the big expensive restaurant. Chrissy did the same thing. I'm going to the beach. You can't go. God. All right. Can't come back from that. Nikki Haley, I met her a few times.

I don't think she's a woman of the people. I just don't get that. I don't see it. But maybe I'm wrong now. Look, I like to, I've been in this game since I do my first campaign 30 years ago. I've seen a lot of politicians come and go. And I think what the unique thing was about Trump is that we didn't know what to make of him. And he came in and he shook up the state.

I sat there in the White House with him for about seven months. And he was willing to take on the status quo. So many times we're told we can't do X, right? This is in law. This is how it's always been. And Trump came in and said, I don't care. And for the first time in my life, I saw a politician that was willing to take on the establishment, shake things up to get real change. Too often we hear excuses.

I think the closest we're going to get to that as a guy like DeSantis, who has been willing to take on the establishment, fight against institutions like Disney, take on the bureaucracy when it came. to coming out of COVID and the educational bureaucracy, shake up the higher education system in Florida. So if you like Trump, I would go downscale to DeSantis and then keep going. But I don't disagree. I think Nikki Haley comes across much more in the mold of the establishment Republican. Yeah, but maybe I'm wrong about her. Final question for you, DeSantis' problem is he doesn't connect with the folks, as I call them. He's too remote.

He's too emotionally remote. Trump isn't. Trump's got the folks, the Maga people, they don't care what Trump does. They don't care what he says. They're with him. And he'll always be with him, because he has forged that connection, whatever it may be. But tactically, if I were Trump, I would consider Nikki Haley as my vice president. president. What do you think?

So interesting. I will tell you that I think part of the reason what I put my finger on with Trump was that the business that he's in, construction, retail, uh, restaurants, you, you interact with with everyday workers, with blue collar workers. So Trump has always had a, uh, an affinity and a connection to American workers that I think most politicians lack. The thing that's interesting on my podcast today, I had one of DeSantis's top age. And I said to him with all of the accomplishments that DeSantis has, governor. Why isn't he connected? Kind of what you're getting at. And I think part of it is, is that that that's that lack of connection to people. You've got all the accomplishments on the

paper that would add up to somebody doing really well. And yet it's not there because of what you've put your finger on. I think that's the biggest thing that I take away from right now where things, is that Trump has a connection with people because of the background that he's been in that he understands. His personality is much more open. Nikki Haley, VP, yes or no? So I'm sorry, here's what I've always said. With Trump being the VP is a concentric circle, you have to want it, he has to want you.

And I think Nikki Haley didn't want to stick around as you an ambassador. Why would she want to, as I say, after seeing the Mike Pence movie, who was a loyal vice president for four years, take that job. I think Nikki Haley doesn't want the job. I don't think Trump would pick her.

I still think my number one pick right now is Sarah Huckabee Sanders. She knows the job, she knows what Trump's looking for, and he knows her. That's my number one pick right there. All right. And that's not a good, that's a good choice. Okay, once again, Sean Spicer leads into the no spin news on the first.

The warm up act. Yeah, they told Spicer he's got to be the warm up act for me. But that, they were just kidding. I mean, you're the star at seven. But the way this works, because we're not corporate media here, is that we hire distributors. And the first TV distributes us, along with many others, in America, you know, direct TV, all of that kind of stuff. So Spicer's got a program seven to eight. We come on at eight.

And then you get us other places on the radio as well. So thanks for being my warm-up guy, Spicer. But I think you are a star in your own right. And I hope we can talk again soon. We'll see it tonight on News Nation. You bet, sir. See you then. Now, I'll be doing, as I mentioned, a commentary after the debate.

Here's a gem from the No Spin News Vault. Now, you may remember the name Michelle Bachman. Okay, she, former congressman from Minnesota, all right, served from 07 to 2015. She was on the O'Reilly Factor often. And now she is the dean of the Robertson, School of Government at Regent University in Minnesota. And I want to check in with her because Michelle, I haven't talked to you in so long. How are you?

And nice to see you. Well, thank you, Bill. It is great to see you again, too. I've enjoyed all the interactions that we've had together over the years. And I'm really enjoying being dean. It's an opportunity to be able to give back into the next generation to teach them about government, how our government works, but also. really what is the essence of America? What does our Constitution say? What does our

Declaration of Independence say? What rights are guaranteed to us in the Bill of Rights? So it's a wonderful opportunity to be able to pour into the next generation because as you and your viewers know, there are a lot of people in this current generation who have no clue, essential aspects of American history, much less learning about our founding. So it's tremendously rewarding to be able to teach the next generation. You got to straighten these urchins out. Now, you have a particular interest in foreign, let's make everybody the same, the Obama philosophy of, you know, one world globalism, correct?

Do you still have that interest? I do, Bill, I used to sit on the Intelligence Committee in the United States Congress. We dealt with the classified secrets of America, particularly with the issue of terrorism. Now it's on the high horizon. If people remember the results of the midterms and the midterm week, that was actually a big globalism week. That was the week that the climate change conference met at Charmel Sheik in Egypt. And it was really quite tremendous. For 30 years, all of these countries have been on the United States for us to make reparations, payments to them.

In other words, a grand global redistribution of wealth. Well, they finally got it through this year. So now the Biden administration is on board with the viewers that are watching you today. Now our tax money will go and be thrown all over the world in reparations payments because we've been a successful nation. That's one thing that happened. But the other thing that happened that's very concerning is with the B20 and the G20 nations, the 20 largest nations, with the largest GDP in the world,

they made a decision that now all countries. of the world will be gathering in Geneva, Switzerland this year, and we're supposed to be giving up our national sovereign decision-making over health care decisions, like during a pandemic, to the World Health Organization, which is really under the thumb of communist China. This is incredibly important, Bill, because if our pandemic decisions have to come at the behest of the World Health Organization, we have no one to appeal to. We can't appeal to a congressman. We can't appeal to a senator.

Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. Because in order for that to happen, Congress would have to affirm that treaty. And the way it is now, with Republicans controlling the House, then never in a million years going to do it. But the first thing that you mentioned is interesting. So what they decided to do in Charmel Sheik was to give an enormous amount of money from the developed nations to the undeveloped nations to combat global war. warming, which, of course, I know that Molly is going to immediately start to do that.

You know, it's all going to be stolen. Everybody knows it is. And why, I don't even know why. But anyway, I appreciate you bringing both of those things to our attention. The other thing my staff told me, and I'm glad you're on today, is that you are following this Megan and Harry thing. So Netflix paid these to $100 million. dollars. That's the rumor. I don't know if it's true. And they've got this documentary that's doing

very well. A lot of people are watching. I couldn't care less about Megan and Harry. Okay. To me, they sound like people living down the street whose dog barks too loud. That's Megan and Harry. Shut that dog up. Now, you find something interesting about this. What is it? Well, I think the interesting thing is they're very emblematic of the current thinking in America right now, which is an entitlement mentality, that the world should be the way I want it to be, that everybody should have to act the way that I want them to act. It is an unbelievable way of thinking. When you were young, when I was young, we were expected to accommodate ourselves a little bit to the world. We had a standard of behavior that we had

to come to. These people think they can snap their finger. The royal family is supposed to do their bidding or people around them are supposed to do their bidding. The weird thing, Bill, is that this isn't just Harry and Megan's way of thinking. I don't know if it's generational. I don't know. But this is what we're seeing is that this really is the new ideology that people are taking in and living by. And society can't work that way. It can't work that way when everybody wants to be the boss.

But unfortunately, it really is emblematic of that current, I don't want to say generation because the whole generation isn't like that, but it's becoming way too common. And I think that's what was so interesting about this documentary, because it gave you, gave away the thinking of people who actually think that way, who are entitled, who think that the, you know, the universe owes them a living. My parents always told me, nobody owes you a living. Well, there's a whole new group of people who actually think they are owed a living, and Harry and Megan seem to be among them. Yeah, that's very true. I talked about it last night with the second tribe of people who say, look, I don't want to compete or I can't compete in our society, in our capitalistic society. So give me stuff. But there's an outside chance. And again, I have no interest in these two. I don't care about the royal family. I'm Irish. They seized my. ancestors farm, threw them off. London did. You know, we booted them out of here in a Revolutionary War at Great Sacrifice. I'm glad they're gone. But there is an outside chance

that Megan and Harry basically sat down and said, look, we're never going to be king and queen. That's not happening here. So our lives are going to be running around doing little ceremonial stuff, raising money for charity, and it's boring and we don't want to do it. So let's go to America and make a pile of dough. Okay? And the easiest way to do that is to bad mouth the royal family and then everybody will come and give us money to go on Netflix and we'll bad mouth everybody and will be fabulously wealthy, which they already were. But now they're in Santa Barbara wherever they are. They're running around. They may be just conning everybody, Michelle. You know, that could be happening here. Well, I think they are conning everybody. But I think at this point,

They're so pathetic. That's the thing that is shocking. You would think that the big boys at Netflix would be smarter that they could see through this. But they bombed. They don't. No, I know, but it's the highest rated Netflix thing. It's the highest thing they have.

It's rated number two today. But the people that watch it, I mean, they're disgusted with this Megan and Harry. It's got a rating of 12 on Rotten Tomatoes. I mean, like, you can't go lower than that. And so I think there really one-hit wonders at this point. And I think whining isn't going to get them any further. And I think for people who decide that whining is your cottage industry,

you got a pretty short shelf life. It's not going to last. And I think, again, you're all about common sense. You've always been about common sense. And I think, especially for this younger generation, there's some tried and trude principles and common sense. wisdom, take that. Don't go this route of whining. Don't go the route of thinking you're entitled. It's going to be a dead end stop every time. Especially if you're not a royal and you're

not going to get a hundred million, you're just going to get scorn. And Michelle, it's so good to see you. I'm glad you're doing well at Regent University, trying to straighten the urchins there out. I want you to have very Merry Christmas. And let's talk again soon, okay? We'll do it, Bill. Thanks again. Merry Christmas. for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com.

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