Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - February 1, 2025

Episode Date: February 1, 2025

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Welcome to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. NATO, you know, Trump does not like the North Atlantic Treaty Organization because they don't pay up enough defense costs. So right now, it's 2% of the gross national product that NATO companies are supposed to contribute for the collective defense. Trump wants it to be five. And then we got Greenland, you got Panama. I mean, and this is one week. One week. All right, joining us now, is the best guess we could find on any of this.

His name is Gordon Sondland. You may remember he was the ambassador to the European Union. for two years. The first Trump administration, joins us now from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Let's start with the deportations first. This is obviously shaking up the Western Hemisphere. Got a very liberal government in Brazil, they're rattling cages. I think the capitulation in Colombia sends a big message to everybody. How do you see it? Well, let me pivot to more of a macro issue, which is, I think President Trump has changed the transition playbook forever, for every president, regardless of party. And, you know, there was a lot of consternation as to

why he wasn't signing on to the normal transition process. And now we can see why, because there was a lot of work going into all of these various initiatives, 30 or 40 of them, all launched at the same time, that were not shared with the current administration, which they would have been, had he signed on to the normal process, which meant people would have been able to undermine him before he got out of the gate. So you kept thinking... So you believe that the Trump administration

didn't share any of this with the Biden administration because the Biden administration would have leaked it to the press and created hysteria. Is that what you're saying? Among other things, I think also what we all refer to as the deep state would have already started to put things into motion

to put sand into the gears. And that's why they kept things at Mar-a-Lago. They kept things quiet. They had their landing teams ready, and that's why you saw not only shock and awe in terms of the launch of all of these initiatives, but shock and awe in terms of HR moves, in getting rid of people who would have had their hands on the levers of power. And that's why now, when the president needs to threaten, unfortunately, a foreign leader, to do the right thing, which is take your own citizens back, there isn't a lot of bureaucracy pushing back on that.

He sends a tweet, scares the ever-loving daylights out of the guy within two hours, as you pointed out, things go backwards. And this is how you have to conduct foreign policy when things have gotten so bad in the last four years. Sure, it's an emergency. There's no doubt about it. And I don't, as I said, I don't think most Americans understand how bad the Biden administration was, a derelict in their duty they were, by not upholding the federal

law in place on immigration. But you also have the perception around the world that Donald Trump's a dictator and he's going to come into our country and he's going to cause trouble for us. And that's something that he has to mitigate, correct? Well, he has to mitigate it, but when you peel back the layer of the onion bill, we didn't go into Colombia and start a fight. We simply said, these people, your citizens snuck into our country. We just want to send them back. And it's the President of Columbia that started the fight. Now, just imagine for a moment that we sneak into Colombia. You're going to wind up in a Colombian jail. You're not going home on a presidential aircraft. And I mean,

as I pointed out, the phony excuse that they're in handcuffs and that's some kind of human rights violation. And these are the worst, the worst. You're going to let them run around a plane an attendant. I mean, it's ridiculous. I get a kick out of the fact that every time I go to Mexico on vacation or as a tourist, I'm going to a very, you know, usually very high-end resort in one of Mexico's nicer places. I'm planning to spend a ton of money, and the Mexican Customs Authority give me the third degree like no one else. And I'm there to help their economy. And yet, On the other hand, people want us to be tolerant of someone simply sneaking across the border. So hypocrisy has its finest hour.

With all due respect, Mr. Ambassador, you shouldn't go to Mexico. I'm never going here again because they're an enemy to America. They hurt us. And they kill people here, and they won't do anything about it. So no Mexico for me. And the Caribbean's got a lot of lovely resorts and a lot of good countries down there. Let's shift over to your – food for thought. Yeah, let's shift over to your expertise here.

So I think the situation in Ukraine is worsening for Keef, and that's an advantage to Putin, unfortunately, because Putin doesn't care how many Russians are dead. He does care about the ruble collapsing in his economy in Chambles. He cares about that, but he didn't care about the dead. So Trump has now got a more difficult problem with Putin than he would if the battle was a stalemate, which it isn't. And Trump knows that. He actually said that to me. He said, you know, Russians went on. I said, I know they're winning.

but you have to make it painful for them to win. But now, the specter of more economic sanctions against Russia, that's what Trump came out last week and said. How do you see this going down? I actually think Putin is going to regret doing what he did for the simple reason that if he winds up at Donald Trump's pleasure by retaining any amount of Ukraine that he was able to take, since the invasion. And I don't know if that's going to be the case or not, but let's assume

that it is. The payment he's going to have to make for that is a structure that guarantees Ukraine ironclad security. If that's short of joining NATO, it'll be some kind of a NATO compact umbrella, but the deal will be very simply, okay, you get X, Y, and Z, you never get another inch, And if you take one more inch in the future, all bets are off and we go toe to toe immediately with the United States and NATO all in with Ukraine. So you're a lot. It's all over. When is that deal?

Are they going to go to Iceland and me? Do you have any scenario that might happen in the next month or so? I think it's going to happen very quickly because I think President Trump believes it's his personal duty to stop the bloodshed. He sort of promised it. Absolutely, that's one of his big signature items to try to get something there. And then he might get the Nobel Peace Prize if he'd at least nominate it. All right, so that's all conjecture.

We can just guess at that. Greenland. So this is another thing. I wrote a message of the day on bill o'Reilly.com where I was making fun of the Gulf of Mexico being the Gulf of America now. And Greenland, again, I change the name to Mara Colour. No, because it's, you know, but there is the lithium, and that's what this is all about, because China has the lithium market worldwide to make the machines, and the United States want the world dependent on China, and so we need the lithium there.

But instead of negotiating a deal, which you could do, I think you could probably do it in a week with the Danes, you know, he goes, ah, we might take it over. Is that the right way to do it? Amazon Pharmacy presents painful thoughts. 20 more minutes to kill in the pharmacy before my prescription is ready. Maybe I'll grab some deeply discounted out-of-season Halloween candy. Hmm, I never had a chocolate pumpkin with raisins before. Those were raisins, right?

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He doesn't mean it literally when he says, we're going to buy Greenland. It doesn't mean he's going to write a check and they're going to hand us a deed to Greenland. What it really means is we're going to get in bed with Greenland more than we've ever been in terms of military. I know that and you know that, but the folks in Europe don't know. doesn't understand that. Yeah, they don't know. And the Danes are running around. I mean, it's certainly, that's the first thing that's an awaken them since November.

So cold over there, but I think... But it also shows me that Meta Frederikson does not know how to manage Trump the way Georgia, Maloney of Italy knows how to manage him. Whatever it may be. Americans don't care. We just don't want conflict. I think that'll work it out. I think they'll work out something economically, right?

They're already, they're already talking. talking. Absolutely. That's what I think. Panama is the same thing. That guy down there is going to give Trump what he wants, but Trump goes in and says, hey, we're going to take it. So, I don't know. I actually had a conversation with the president long about this. I say, you don't have to humiliate. The guy's going to do what you want. But it seems like Donald Trump wants to create that chaos. He feels it's easier to get a deal out of that once he creates this hysteria. Am I wrong? there's something else going on here as well. He's showing our adversaries, our true adversaries, and none of these people are our adversaries. They're actually our friends. He's showing, you know,

Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, particular, that he is not effing around. When he says something, he means it, and he plans to take immediate action. He is a check your watch, not your calendar, kind of president. And that's what we've needed for the last four years. Okay. I understand the messaging, but final thing. You were based in Brussels as the EU ambassador, correct? Yes. The Belgians have been one of the worst offenders are not paying for NATO defense, right?

The Belgians are very careful people, let's put it that way. What is their justification for not paying the 2%? You must have spoken to them about it. because they can get away with it. We haven't pressed them. So it's the big middle finger from Brussels to Washington, D.C. That's what it is? I don't even think it's the middle finger.

The country is broke. That country is really broke. Why is Belgium broke? It's a little Benelux country. What are they got? Four million people there? Yeah. Because they have a huge social safety net and very little income because everyone's fleeing their tax policy.

That's why they're broke. All right. they're all bailing out of there because you can't make any money. And so they don't have any money, and they won't put the collective defense. But Trump's not going to get the 5% commitment from NATO. I don't think he's going to get that, do you? Well, look, this is my theory. Do we have an extra minute?

Yeah, sure. My theory is this. If hypothetically, we said, look, we've been with you guys in Europe for the last 80 years. We've helped you. We've paid. We've had our blood treasure people. You're kind of on your own now. We'll take on the big stuff in China.

You're going to have to defend yourselves. We're going to pull everything out, including our money and so on and so forth. All of these countries that we admire where you're walking down the street and watching people sit in the brosseries, you know, in the middle of the day, writing in their journals instead of working, these countries would have to spend 10%, 11%, 12% of their GDP on defense in order to make up for us. So what Trump is basically saying, Bill, is we have been subsidizing a very enviable lifestyle. And he said, we're not asking to pull the rug out, but they need to put up their share.

That's the bottom line. Well, I think you'll get it in the end. I mean, this is really a departure from the American government, as you said, of the last 80 years. I hope you'll come back, Mr. Ambassador. It was a very good conversation. We appreciate it very much. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Here on Long Island, Tom Swazzi, Democrat, just re-elected.

He took a four-year hiatus. I think it was four years you're out there to run for governor against Hockel. A Hockel beat you. It seemed like four years. It was only a year and a half. It seemed like one. You missed me. And I wish you had beaten Hockel because it's a state of New York's a disaster.

As you know, you took over for Santos, who I think is in Devil's Island someplace. But anyway, I got some questions for you. Number one, your party was hijacked by far-left people under Biden. There's no doubt about that. That's why Trump won. How did that happen? You're not a far-left guy. How did your party get hijacked by the far-left?

I think that both parties are prone to being hijacked by their extreme bases, both parties, In the case of the Democratic Party, Joe Biden is not the greatest messenger in the world. I think he did a lot of good stuff, but he's not the greatest messenger in the world. And too many people are intimidated to speak up against their extreme base. And as a result, I think the Republicans

effectively weaponized the extreme elements of our party to say, like, you're all for defund police, you're all for open borders, you're all for all this extremist stuff, and it worked. There are plenty of extremists in the Republican Party, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Burburt and Matt Gates, but we did not effectively weaponize that. And the bigger spokesman was Donald Trump, so you couldn't paint them with that brush. It was just the message he was selling as opposed to

But I still don't understand. If you're a president of the United States and you go into office and open the border and 14 million foreign nationals come in unattended, that's a far left play. Do you have any idea why that man Biden did that? Any idea at all? My belief, I genuinely believe his bill. Joe Biden is a creature of the Senate. And he thinks that, you know, to make long-lasting change, you've got to negotiate a deal in the Senate and to come up with a compromise. And he worked on trying to do a compromise for years. Ultimately, they came up with this compromise in February 2024. It was too late. and he did an executive order in June of 2024. I sent him a letter along with a Republican, Brian Fitzpatrick, asking him to seal off asylum applications

in between the ports of entry, and he did it, and the numbers are down from what they were when it was really bad back in the end of 2023. But it just waited too long. And as a result... But too long, it's three years of damage. The first year, the first year was not that bad because we were still having the COVID hangover

and there were not that many people crossed the point. You know how bad it was. You said it in your campaign that it was wrong. I don't know. There's no question. Am I campaign? You said it. So why did he do it? Why did he do it for three years? I think he was focused on other stuff and he did. Other stuff? Look, he was a major issue.

The economy was in the tank. I don't give me to Oh, Bill. Bill. COVID was a major issue when he first came into office. The economy- What does COVID have to do with an open border? Nothing. And then he rams through regulation after.

Wait, listen to me. He rams through regulation after regulation on the energy industry, rocketing inflation so everybody suffers. And then two years in, he takes that off. Takes them two years to figure out you can't strangle the fossil fuel industry and not have inflation. have inflation. And he takes it out and he drills like crazy. This is Biden. So he is, well, he's the second worst president ever, in my opinion, and I know what I'm talking about. But let's advance it. You're the co-chair of the Problem Solvers Caucus, right, in the House,

correct? Yeah, 25 Democrats, 25 Republicans, we regularly try to find common ground. But here's the problem with that. The most powerful guys, in the house is Hakeem Jeffreys. He's a far-left guy. So how are you going to get anything done? He's not far left. But I'm working for the people I represent. And I'm going to work to try and find common ground on the border.

I'm going to work to try and find common ground on inflation and high costs. I'm going to work to find common ground on public safety. I'm going to work to find common ground on something the president talked about in his speech about chronic disease and protecting children. And there's a lot of things that the president has done and said already that I don't like. But I'm not going to focus on the things I don't like. I'm going to focus on where can we find common ground to actually solve the problems we've been facing for the past 30 years. All right. So we need to secure an article in the New York Times.

Good article. I actually texted you that it was a good article and about Trump. And you just said on this broadcast, there are a lot of things I don't like that he's done in a week. Give me one. The pardons. You know, I'll just talk about one pardon from the 1600 from January 6th. This guy, Daniel Rodriguez, was there when they were beaten up a police officer, capital police officers, on the ground. Some guys are saying, kill him, kill him.

And Daniel Rodriguez takes a taser and sticks it in the police officer's neck. tases him. The police officer has a heart attack and has traumatic brain injury as a result. This guy, Daniel Rodriguez, texted his friends and said, you wouldn't believe the stuff I just did and I got away and I tased the you know what out of the blue. He pled guilty. He got 12-year sentence and he was included in the blanket pardons. And there's a lot of examples of that from all right. That's legitimate. I don't think any fair-minded American would disagree with you. Give me a policy thing though. So we've had a lot of policy in eight days. Give me one policy thing that you object to. Right now with the Home Depot, you'll find storage

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He doesn't look at it the same way. And I'm all for, you know, all the above and utilizing the natural gas reserves we have in our country. Why do you think, and that breach will never be, you'll never reach Daytona on it. Yeah, I know that. Why do you think most Americans have now turned against the climate change zealots? I think it's been very effectively weaponized. You know, I think that the Republicans and President Trump specifically have done a much better job of, navigating the fractured media landscape.

You know, it's not the traditional media that you and I grew up with, with, you know, your local paper and your local news stations and cable news. It's now podcasts like yours. It's like social media. It's a so much more fractured environment. And he and his team have done a very effective job of taking anything that they disagree with and blowing it up into a painting of the whole party. being a wreck. So, you know, we've got to figure out how to combat that and how to make our

argument. Well, I will give you an open invitation come here. And also your peer, Laura Gillen, who's a Democrat, who's the South Shore of Long Island. I was telling you, I ran into Congresswoman Gillen at the Islander game on Friday. And you're both moderate people. I mean, I've known you guys for a while. You're not loons. But I'll tell you what, Congressman, party still lies in the left-wing zealots. And if you don't break that down, it'll be J.D. Vance will be the next president.

I don't believe in defund the police. No, I don't know. But the powerful people and to say Hakeem Jeffries isn't a far-left guy. All you have to do is look at his record and look at his public statements. Look at the, look at how he categorize. Wait, just do this

because this will, you're a guy, you went to the same high school I went to. We have a lot of comment. When those rioters in New York got out of control, you look at what Hakeem Jeffries said. That's all you need to see. Anyway, you are welcome anytime. I want the common sense stuff.

I want both sides of the story. You see us do anything you don't like. You come right back on, all right? And we're going to book Ms. Gillen as well. Is that fair enough? All right, Bill. Thank you, buddy. Thanks so much.

Nice to see you. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. It is clear that Donald Trump's first 10 days been devoted 100% to knocking out every crazy thing that Biden did. If you want to just boil it down, that's what the Trump administration's doing for the past 10 days. Every nutty thing that the past four years demonstrated, Trump's going after. The question is, how did Joe Biden get so extreme?

It's his fault. All these migrant arrests, all of this spending scrutiny, all of this trans stuff. If there have been moderate policies by Biden, none of this would be happening. But they're so extreme. How did that man get so extreme? That is a very, very important question. So joining us now from Washington is a guy named Tyler O'Neill. He's got a new book out called Woketobus, like Octopus, Woktipus, the Dark Money Cabal,

manipulating the federal government. Ooh, it sounds very ominous. It's out now, and Mr. O'Neill is a conservative guy and works for a number of groups. Why don't you tell me. what dark money is first. Simple. I'm a simple man. I have to be able to understand

what dark money is. Yeah, thanks, Bell. It's an honor to be here with you. Dark money just basically means it's funding that doesn't have to disclose who the donor is. So you have many sorts of nonprofits. Pretty much every nonprofit

is technically a dark money group because they don't have to disclose their donors only in some certain circumstances. do you have to disclose? Do they get tax exemptions, these organizations? Yes. So tax exemption does not require you to disclose your donors, especially not publicly. And this is a fundamental First Amendment right that we have to support causes we believe

in without fully disclosing who we are. We can do it in the shadows, and that's legal. I don't think that should be legal. I think if you give a donation to a nonprofit political group that you're a Their name should be listed. Would you disagree with that? I think when it comes to public disclosure, we've seen situations where conservative groups, there have been videos, you know, video games of people going into a conservative organization and

shooting people up. I mean, the Southern Poverty Law Center also put FRC on a hate map that led to a domestic terrorist attack. So I think the ability to give privately is a good First Amendment protected. Protection. Okay. Valid point, valid point. Now, I'm going to, I looked over your book, didn't read it all, because I didn't get it in time, but you zero in on a number of organizations on the left that you believe influenced President Biden to do things that were harmful to the country. All right? Am I summing it up? Okay. 100%. Just like your financial needs, when it comes to your money, credit karma keeps you in the know and ahead of the game. You can count on credit karma to keep up with your financial needs as they evolve.

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When you're feeling the heat, Circle K makes your day. One of the first ones is the oil and gas industry. And we'll all remember that as soon as Biden got into office, he slapped the number of executive orders restrictions on oil and gas. And that led to prices at the gas pump and in the grocery stores and restaurants zooming up. So who was behind that? Many different groups. I mean, the Sierra Club is one of the biggest actors when it comes to the Sue and Settle

strategy, which is a really noxious strategy by which these environmentalist activists essentially force the federal government to crack down on oil and gas. And of course, many of the federal agencies are staffed by environmentalists anyway. So the environmentalist group feeds its staffer into the administration. The administrative agency gets a lawsuit from the Sierra Club. saying, crack down on oil and gas, or else, the agency wanted to do that anyway. So the agency says, oh, sure, we weren't following the law. We weren't being hard enough on oil and gas.

They cracked down on oil and gas. Sometimes they give a settlement to the nonprofit, too. So you have really this back scratching between these groups. Okay, and that's all driven by the global warming crew, right? Climate change crew. You don't want the fossil fuels, so they're going to try to de-emphasize. size of his money. And Biden buys into that almost immediately, correct? Oh, yes. And of course, if you look at the Inflation Reduction Act, he, before it passed, he said, oh, this was going to

bring down inflation. After it passed, he said it was the most historic investment in a generation in green energy. And so he tapped John Podesta, the founder of the Center for American Progress and Hillary Clinton's former campaign chairman to direct billions of dollars in federal government spending to his green cronies. Okay. Then you have gender ideology. This almost came out of nowhere, this trans stuff.

It just kind of bam, right in, and you had a presidential candidate, Kamala Harris, saying, yeah, you know, if you're in jail or if you're an illegal alien and you want to change agenda, we'll pay for it. American workers will pay for it. How the heck could that happen? Yeah. So I think the human rights campaign is the short answer to that question. This is a very

influential group because of the ESG movement in capitalism. A lot of funders, a lot of venture capitalists said, we're not going to give money to companies unless they fit everything that the human rights campaign does. So they have a corporate equality index. For Biden, they released a blueprint, blueprint for positive change. The Biden administration followed 75 percent, implemented 75% of that blueprint. So I call it the Biden Equality Index, and I go through every single thing in my book. I did all the research to show how the human rights campaign was calling the shots. Why woke, why trans, so few of them, you know, with 340 million people here, and this

becomes the headline that we got to do this and kids can do it. it and everything else, what do they pick them? What was that all about? It throws society into confusion, it divides people, it undermines people's trust in their own ability to think. And I mean, that's one of the main issues here is we have the woke elites pushing their agenda on the American people. And most people, they're like, oh, if somebody is struggling, they want to have compassion.

So you hear, oh, somebody's confused about their gender, I don't want to be mean to them. But at the same time, these policies make women unsafe in their private spaces. They make things unfair. Sure, the unintended consequences on the athletic field and everywhere else. Now, final question for you, Tyler, and it's a good book, and it's a woktipus. That's better. I can finally pronounce it, Woktipus, and it's something you guys should consider getting. Do you think Biden knew what he was doing, signing all of this insanity, that it just unwrable.

the American government to the extent where the in-coming administration has spent all of its time, 100% of his time, just trying to get the insanity out. Do you think Biden knew what he was doing when he signed his EOS? That's an excellent question. I think the woke activist groups and the woketipus knew what they were doing. Oh, they absolutely knew. Yeah. But were they taking advantage of an infirm man?

Oh, absolutely they were taking advantage. of him. But I also think he thought that this is where the Democratic Party is. He always goes to where he thinks the center of the Democratic Party is. And the Democratic Party has moved so far off the reservation that this ideology, this woke enforcement of their views on the rest of us. You've got to remember one of the groups in my book is the Southern Poverty Law Center, which raises money by comparing conservatives to domestic terrorists, you know, to the Ku Klux Klan. Yeah, I know.

And they were brought in to the Biden White House. All right. Tyler, thanks very much for appearing today. Good luck with the book. And we'll talk again. Thank you very much. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a

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