Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - January 27, 2024

Episode Date: January 27, 2024

Listen to this week's No Spin News interview with Pollster Doug Schoen, Tangle News' Isaac Saul, Pollster John McLaughlin, and Dr. Carole Lieberman, M.D. We also visit the No Spin News archives and Bill's conversation with Amy Tarkanian, Former NVGOP Chairwoman & Republican Strategist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. All right, let's get another perspective here. Doug Schoen, one of our favorite guests. He's a Democrat political strategist. Comes to us today from Miami because he's afraid of the chilly weather up here in New York. He's the author of the book, Four Presidents, Kennedy, Nixon, Biden, Trump. Leaders of Changed History, you might want to check that book out. Great election reading.

So you agree with me. I think that Trump will take New Hampshire tomorrow. Yeah, I think so. The only point of difference is I think it'll be double digits, bill, but I think you're right on the money. How does Nikki Haley react to that defeat? Well, I think you said three weeks ago it was over for DeSantis. You were right.

You were ahead of the curve. I think it's over for Nikki Haley. I mean, if she loses 8, 10, 20, 12 points and she's 20 to 30 points behind in South Carolina and her funders disappear. How does she compete with Trump, with Tim Scott, and every other ex-presidential candidate having endorsed the former president? I think it'll be over for Nikki Haley sooner rather than later. Well, the odds of her defeating Trump and South Carolina are infinitesimal, but that doesn't

mean she has to drop out. She could, you know, cruise along, got the money to do it, and then hope that some kind of judicial thing would knock Trump down Super Tuesday, my turnaround in her favor. So I'm not, like, I knew DeSantis was done and not going to continue. I don't know that about Haley. I know she's going to lose in New Hampshire. But then afterward, I can't right now predict. I get guess, but I don't like to do that.

that. I would tell you, as a political strategist, my best guess is that she will figure out after New Hampshire, if she loses, as we're speculating, she will recognize. So you think she gets out? Does she endorse Trump? I think ultimately she will because she has no choice. Okay. So she wants to stay within the party confines. Doesn't want to be banished from the party. Correct. So she would endorse Trump. So then it's over. It's over for, there's no primary, no Super Tuesday, and all the networks lose hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue. So they have to try to gin up something. And so I think they'll turn that then to Trump should be disqualified because of his legal problems. That's

That's where I think the whole campaign will go after tomorrow night. How do you see it? I agree that that's going to happen. I believe that Trump's greatest opponent, if you will, is the legal system rather than Joe Biden. And I think the media will aid and abet that because it's the best story going. Okay. Welchard General today, as I said, they don't want any part of Trump being reelected. My question is, why isn't there anyone inside the Republican Party who, and it's almost the same in the Democratic Party, your party, there's really no politician who can rise up and challenge a guy like Donald Trump or a guy like Joe Biden?

Why? Why is the field so weak in this area? Well, two reasons. On the Republican side, because Trump dominates, period. On the Democratic side, we have a very weak vice president in Kamala Harris, who's even less popular than the incumbent president. We have only one person who could run a national campaign. I think he's four years away, Gavin Newsom. And the only other person who could run is Michelle Obama.

and the chances of her running are very, very slight. Okay, so Chris Cuomo said that to me over the weekend because I reported on Michelle Obama's podcast adventure with Jay Shetty. I still can't figure out why she'd take time or bother with that. But Cuomo said to me, she's never going to run. And Cuomo, you know, I was a Democrat, and he's in there with all the, And they all talk to him and all that. Now, you're telling me she's not going to run.

Then why is she on Jay Shetty's podcast? Well, here's why. I said it's unlikely, very unlikely, sure. And I didn't say impossible bill. Let's assume this summer as we approach the convention, whether it be legal problems, health problems, performance problems, or all three, Joe Biden is just not up to making the race.

Then the Obamas will have a decision to make. Do they want Michelle Obama to get the nomination other than Kamala Harris, who is a certain loser, a stone cold loser? And then maybe just maybe. Long shot, yes, impossible no that Michelle throws her hat in the ring. Well, that's a likely scenario. It's possible.

Biden has dementia. Yeah. I mean, I know that. I knew this to be true. Um, and if you or me, I, my mother had it. So I, I just did my father. Okay. He has it. So that is going to become more and more clear in the next months. If you look at his daily schedule and we do that every day here, we're going to do it right after you leave, uh, the podium. He doesn't have anything scheduled. He doesn't have anything scheduled. He doesn't He doesn't do anything, okay? He is totally kept apart from the American people in every single way. Not running foreign policy, he doesn't even know that his defense minister is in the ICU. Correct. This is an impossible situation. As a historian, other than Woodrow Wilson, who suffered a stroke and was incapacitated, and no one knew it,

His wife, Edith, ran the country for 18 months. No one knew it. This has never happened before. It is almost inconceivable that in a national convention in August, the Democratic Party will nominate a man who has dementia. I think we have to start now there. So then Michelle Obama becomes the only one. the only person inside the Democratic Party

who could beat Trump. And that's where we are today. One caveat, Bill, if Joe Biden for some reason is polling ahead of equal to or within the margin of error of Donald Trump, they might roll out Biden with his teleprompter and hope that he can get through. He's going to get worse, Doug.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I mean, every millions and millions of Americans have been through this. You don't get better. It's a slow slide to oblivion. You dealt with it in your family. I dealt with it. I'm intimately familiar. All right, Doug.

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He's out of Philadelphia. I read Tangle, and I think it's pretty honest, pretty straightforward. That's one of the three or four that I will read. So, Nikki Haley, she vows. to stay in, even if she gets waxed by 15 points tonight, which the Boston Globe says she will. I'm not sure about that. Nikki says, I'm in it. I'm not getting out. You believe her? I believe her that she'll hang in past New Hampshire. Yeah, I mean, I think she's still getting money. There's a donors who are still lining up behind her. I'm not totally sure why. I think, you know,

I wrote in August of last year that this race was basically over. Trump had a little. lead in the polls that have never been surmounted by challengers in the history of modern primaries. So he's pretty much had a stragglehold on this from the beginning, and that hasn't changed. But, you know, she could be a little bit competitive. Maybe she overperforms. Maybe instead of getting, you know, 20 or 25 percent of the vote, she gets 35 percent. She comes in a few percentage points above what the polls are showing. I think if that happens, she'll do her best to stick around.

You know, the reality is... But why? Why? Why? All right, so she's not going to win her home state, and that's four weeks away, four long weeks away, all right? And not going to win South Carolina. It's MAGA country and all of the big shots down there lined up behind Trump. So why? What is in it? You know, most of the time I know these people and why they do what they do. They want to write a book. They want their lecture fees to be jacked up. They have nothing else to do. Whatever may be. But Nikki Haley knows she's not going to beat Trump one-on-one. It's not.

So why is she hang around? Well, I think she's, you know, as you sort of mentioned at the top of your segment there, there's a lot of candidates in this race who are on the other side of 70, the other side is 75. And she's a relatively young politician. So I sincerely doubt this is the last time that we see her in a presidential race. I think 2028 is going to be wide open on the GOP side. And if she can prove to some donors and prove to some people in the Republican Party that she's got the huts but to stick around with Trump and go toe to toe with him, I think in the long term, that's probably good for her political career, even if she ends up getting trounced in a couple primary races.

But, you know, Ron DeSantis dropped out last week. And what did he get for doing that? He got headline after headline about what a total disaster his campaign was. So, you know, on the one hand, it made sense for him to leave the race. On the other hand, it was a pretty damaging thing from an optics perspective and for the future of his political career, I think, that he didn't even make it to New Hampshire. So if you're Mickey Haley, I think you see that. That was a different situation, though. So, I mean, DeSantis put everything in Iowa, didn't even campaign in New Hampshire and got killed, so he had nowhere to go. Nikki Haley performed okay in Iowa. And as you said, if she does all right tonight. But if she doesn't, and she gets wiped out, I don't know, then she's going to get a loser tag.

You're right in the sense that she is priming herself for four years from now. That's correct. She sees the field, she doesn't see a lot of moderate Republicans in the field. Most are pretty far right. And she goes, you know, I'm going to build name recognition. This is a good way to do it. But the danger there, Isaac, is that she gets the loser tag. and she looks foolish, which is absolutely a possibility.

She gets wiped out tonight, four weeks of nothing going around. I'm not going to even, you know, I mean, I would interview Nikki Haley, but I would be tough on Nikki Haley, so she'd never come here. It doesn't go into tough venues. But I see a danger for her, last word. Yeah, I mean, look, I think the best case that she's going to drop, out after New Hampshire is the fact that losing in her home state of South Carolina to Trump by a huge margin would be incredibly embarrassing for her, you know, similar to what Iowa was for

DeSantis. So I'll certainly give you that, that that is a big, big red light for her. But, you know, she's made a lot of promises to donors. She's got the thing all these challengers wanted, which is Trump one-on-one. And she's proved to be a pretty stubborn lady. So maybe she'll stick around for it. All right. Who knows? We'll see. Okay, Isaac, appreciate it very much.

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He deals in numbers. He's worked for the Trump campaign. And his name is John McLaughlin, joins us now from upstate New York. Headline for you. First of all, if I made any mistakes or said something ridiculous, please chastise me now. But headline for New Hampshire is?

Nice try, Nikki, but no cigar. So this was a one shot to ambush Trump because you know New England really well, right? You used to be a reporter of Boston. And New Hampshire, half the voters, 44% are undeclared, unaffiliated. It's now New Hampshire used to be a pretty Republican state and it's now a northern suburb of Boston. So you have all these independent voters who are, you know,

a lot of them are closet Democrats. And you only have 28% Democrats, you have 28% of Republicans. So we had a historic turnout of voters in the Republican primary yesterday, but it was because Nikki Haley, and she was supported by Biden's supporters, she was supported by, you know, never Trumpers, and they were driving out independents who really support Biden into the Republican primary. And that's why instead of the usual two to one Republican to independent ratio, it was really a 50-50 ratio. And Trump's still won by double digits. And, you know, that's a stunning blow for her because she was, a couple weeks ago, she was hoping to win. Then she was lowering it to within double digits. And by the way, this wait and see last night, they had exit polls.

They knew Trump was a winner. They were hesitating calling because they wanted people to watch for a while. And we all know. And they don't know anyway. What you just said, they don't even know any of that. All right, these pundits, they're lazy, they get up there, they, the management tells them what they should say and they say it. But they're not like you, they're not analyzing who's voting, why they're voting, what the

odds are that Nikki Haley would be successful. The key question today on the morning after is that Nikki Haley has to know, has to know. She is not going to defeat Donald Trump for the nomination. She also has to know that Donald Trump doesn't like her very much. so the odds of her being in vice president are low so why does she continue uh why i don't know because if you ask her if you ask her like what state are you going to win they can't tell you they're not going to win any states because i mean just to give you one more statistic on new hampshire in our tracking in our sample and the campaign told me our numbers were dead on we never

released them but internally they knew we were dead on and uh chris chris la savita and susy wilds told was exact but we had three and ten of the new hampshire primary voters on the republican side were former democrat primary voters they're not going to vote for nicky haley in november they're not going to vote for trump in november they're going to vote for biden so uh so we had that in new hampshire that's not going to happen in south carolina south carolina is an open primary but there's a democrat primary with delegates unlike new hampshire and then there's a a Republican primary. That's a pretty conservative Republican primary where Donald Trump is beating her in the polls right now. Yeah, it's mega country, sure. And beating her by a lot.

Now, I think she'll close the gap there a little bit. Got some money to spend, a familiar face. The local press in South Carolina will be deferential to Nikki Haley. She'll get decent press. And the national press saw actually rooting for her. But it comes all down to this, that Donald Trump, in my opinion, shouldn't even bother with Nikki Haley anymore. He should be running against Biden and use a debate situation to go after Biden. I mean, a massive amount of exposure that he gets and he can just swat Nicky away. He doesn't have to be rude either. Not to be rude and then directed at Biden. You're right. Absolutely, because that's how we got here. We got here pursuing Joe Biden as the worst president of history of the United States,

whether it's the border, whether it's, whether it's endless wars, whether it's the economy with inflation. That's how Donald Trump got here. His record is president, is better than Joe Biden's. And that's why, by the way, we're ahead in the polls. Nikki Haley is not ahead of Joe Biden in the polls. Rasmussen reports, she crashed in December. And Rasmussen reports last week had Trump up eight and her down two.

against Joe Biden. So the voters know that we can beat Joe Biden, but on the other hand, Joe Biden knows it. And he's preparing through his third-party group of American Bridge a $200 million campaign to attack Donald Trump in the battle against. Absolutely. That campaign, by the way, was in New Hampshire very quietly pumping money for the people to go out and tell the unaligned voters to vote for Nikki Haley. They spend millions of dollars up there doing that. So you're right, I believe, that the Biden campaign knows it's going to be Trump. And do you have any idea other than Trump's the devil, democracy's on the ballot, he's a fascist, he's Hitler, is there any other strategy that they

have to unveil that would surprise anybody? Well, they've, they've been done. the guy four times trying to make him the Nelson Mandel of America. Then they tried to knock us off the ballot. They've tried to confiscate his wealth. And now we've got to deal with, okay, they're going to attack us, and they're going to say, we're for cutting Social Security, which is not true. That's four years as president. He refused to do it.

And they're going to, you know, they'll come after us on abortion, and they'll come after us on the usual Democrat issues. But Donald Trump, you know, in the meantime, it's his record. We had low inflation, growing economy. America was strong. You didn't have Putin attacking Ukraine. You didn't have Hamas terrorist attack in Israel. And, you know, even crime in local areas, suburban areas.

It's high because Joe Biden is such a weak and bad president. Right. But the border is the big one. The border, you could run against Biden just on the border and beat him, I think. You don't even have to worry about 17% high. prices for essentials of life, you could just beat him on a border. Hey, John, thanks very much. We always appreciate your expertise, and we will talk to again soon, I hope.

You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Now, a lot of people have questions. We dealt with this yesterday on President Biden's mental condition, his capacity. And I told you yesterday, I went through this with my mother, who had early dementia. and I saw the progression where she basically lost the ability to remember most things and had no empathy at all whereby before this she was the most empathetic person on earth, my mother. It's hard to believe I'm her offspring. Anyway, I saw what dementia does to the human mind. Up close, I saw it. I saw it. And I am applying

that to Joe Biden's situation. I may be unfair and I may be wrong. So let's bring in Dr. Carol Lieberman, who was also discussed in detail, Mr. Biden's mental stage. She comes to us from Los Angeles. She does a 1 p.m. Pacific time for, of course, Eastern Time, a Voice America Variety Channel program. It's voiceamerica.com. First of all, My assessment is that Joe Biden has early dementia. Am I wrong for saying that? Not only aren't you not wrong, but I have been saying this since 2020, since he started running for president.

And I said he had an approaching dementia. And I say this, I've never met Joe Biden, but I say this, you know, as a board-certified psychiatrist, Board Certified in Psychiatry and Neurology, and also as a forensic psychiatrist, where I have had to testify about people and whether they are confident enough, like to sign wills or things like that. So it was clear to me, you know, back then, and surely it has become clearer over the years that he does in fact have dementia, that it's encroached even more. You know, it used to be a little more subtle where, you know, he had memory problems and he was emotional. Volatile and things like that, but it was somewhat somewhat subtle compared to what we're seeing now Where he needs to be led around by an Easter Bunny or he every time he finishes reading the teleprompter

We know he's not going to know where he is and so Jill comes running up there I mean all kinds of things have been happening that are making it clearer and clearer that he has dementia Do you see any kind of mental encroachment on Donald Trump because Haley's making some allegations in that area. Yes, I, you know, I think that's absolutely below me because, you know, when you think about, first of all, he is a very intelligent man and so on, but when you think about what he is going through right now,

you know, being sued and having all these indictments and all these things, every which way, you know, all these different courts and all that, and at the same time he's trying to run for president. I mean, it is amazing that he is able to have the faculty that he does now. You know, it's really sad that people say those kinds of things just because they, you know, because they're running against them.

But it's, no, it is absolutely not true. So you haven't observed anything other than he misspeaks sometimes. And when he's tired, I've observed when he's tired, he gets a little foggy. But anybody over the age of 60 does. When we are looking at Joe Biden, There is a White House physician, like you, a medical doctor. That physician is never going to tell the American people that Mr. Biden is impaired mentally, ever, in my opinion.

That's right. You know, I remember one of the exams that he had was like a colonoscopy, and they were looking at the wrong end. They should have been looking at his brain. Yes, and there's something, he was saying something about his feet, and he's not considering that that could be related to dementia. But, you know, the thing is with Joe Biden, I mean, there are three main types of dementia. The most common is Alzheimer's.

Then we have vascular dementia. And then there is something called Louis body dementia. It's all about deterioration of the brain. And so what Joe Biden most likely has is vascular dementia because he had vascular problems. He had brain bleeds. He has atrial fibrillation. So it seems like the most likely would be

that his vascular system in his brain is compromised. And he should be having these things examined. I mean, the longer he goes on. Absolutely. A nonpartisan school of experts to go in to reassure the American people, but it's not going to happen. Hey, doctor, thanks very much.

We appreciate it. If you notice anything when you're watching Mr. Biden or Mr. Trump that you feel is a little bit out there, please let us know. We appreciate your expertise very much. Here's a gem from the NoSpin News Vault. Let's go to a very smart woman. I'm not going to ask her age. That would be impolite. I would never do that.

Amy Tarkinian is a former Nevada State Republican chairwoman. She comes to us from Reno. Where am I going wrong here, Amy? Well, you're actually right, but on the other hand, you probably had two women who were in shock that he even said such a misogynistic comment on the air. And you're right for him to say, just go Google it. What kind of journalistic background do you have? Now, obviously, he's not new to saying stupid things, as you pointed out. He was removed from prime time to then the morning show, which morning shows typically have a combination of factual news and opinion.

Now, we know his opinion. We know he's an arrogant knucklehead. And these women should have taken him to task on the air. But I think they were taken aback. And so they felt they probably needed some backup. No excuse. They're on national TV. Look, in my career, you think I haven't heard, worse stuff than that?

You know, you got it. You go, what? And then you put forth how dumb it is. Taking a back or surprise. No. Well, you had the one, the one anchor on one side actually questioned and say, are you talking about, you know, being pregnant or with pregnancy? I can't remember how she put it. Yeah, that was Poppy Harlow, I believe. You had been 20s, 30s and 40s, which obviously means their appearance and not their mental capabilities. This was so preposterous what Lemon said that it doesn't, it's not even worthy of debate. It's not. It's not two sides to the story. All right. There's the truth that women just like men can operate at a very high level, depending on their physiology, all right? Into what? Their 80s, 90s, I mean, Joe Biden, right? I mean, come on.

My mother-in-law is the perfect example. She actually was Las Vegas mayor pro temp in her 80s, and she's currently a university region getting ready to hit 89. We all know that this is ridiculous. So then the job of the anchors is to point out how ridiculous it is, not just go, oh, oh, I'm offended, I'm offended. No. Well, I think, unfortunately, they're so used to playing the vizabeth.

victim as you so rightfully point out in your article talking about the victim of the woke culture and so they are so brainwashed into thinking this way that that's the way to think and that you're supposed to just bend over and take it maybe that's why they were taken aback maybe i mean look i don't i don't know and i don't i don't particularly care yeah i don't know and i don't particularly care, don't watch CNN because there's nothing I can learn from CNN. They're not real interested in putting out any kind of worthy information of my humble opinion. Now, Lemon, would you fire him if you were the president of CNN? Would you kick him right out the door? Well, I actually would fire him because, you know, you also had the left talking about me too.

And this seems to kind of fit in that category. Where are all these, you know, feminists, you know, crying out to foul from this guy you know silence oh he's not he's getting it he's getting it from every direction but you would fire him you'd show him the door yeah I think he's he's had one strike two strikes three strikes how many strikes does it take for this guy to actually you know function like a normal human being on the air so you would you would fire him for essentially you would fire him for being dumb he's going to get fired because of low ratings i don't i don't think cnn's going to do it because of this because that opens up a lawsuit and a lot of a lot of stuff but he will he's not

this time next year you won't be seeing them all right uh amy thank you very much for helping us out very kind of you to take time out of your day to do it thank you thank you for listening to the no spend news weekend edition to watch the full episodes of the the no-spin news, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com.