Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - July 19, 2025

Episode Date: July 19, 2025

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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. President Trump was campaigning to become president the second time. He often attacked the Biden administration for not being able to deal with Putin. Trump's line was, if I had been reelected in 2020 2020 there would have been no Ukraine war. That's what President Trump said clearly Here's what he put forth on October 14th 2024 go There's so much bad happened in this administration, it's disgraceful, you know as an example

There'd be no war with Russia and Ukraine. There's no way who's got I get along very well with Putin And then when he was elected for the second time Donald Trump and I know this to be true. Okay was very optimistic that Vladimir Putin would cooperate in a ceasefire Very optimistic, but that did not turn out to be true. So now, today, we are in a second phase. First the casualties.

This is unbelievable. So Putin invaded the much smaller nation of Ukraine in February 2022. Since that time, a quarter of a million Russian troops have been killed, up to 100,000 Ukrainians have died, 700,000 Russian troops have been wounded, 300,000 Ukrainian troops wounded. More than 6.5 million refugees have fled Ukraine, and they have gone all over the world. This is from the Center for Strategic and International Studies and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees So these are very well documented statistics, okay, so it is a

Situation it's totally out of control and there's more death every day Okay, so you would think that there would be some kind of move And there's more death every day. Okay. So you would think that there would be some kind of move from Vladimir Putin to stop the carnage. Trump offered him a pretty good deal. What you have now you can keep, which is about 10% of Ukraine, and then we'll lift the trade sanctions, but Putin said, blank you. Okay, all right

Now today Trump is angry with Putin will the tape so in a nutshell we're gonna make Top of the line weapons and they'll be sent to NATO NATO may choose to have certain of them sent to other countries where we can get a little additional speed where the country will release something and it'll be mostly in the form of a replacement. And I'm disappointed in President Putin because I thought we would have had a deal two months ago, but it doesn't seem to get there.

So based on that, we're going to be doing secondary tariffs. If we don't have a deal in 50 days, it's very simple. And there'll be at 100 percent. And that's the way it is that can be more simple It's just the way it is. I hope we don't have to do All right, so we're gonna sell weapons to NATO and they'll give them to whoever they want, which will be the Ukrainians All right, maybe the polls will get some too because poll polling borders Russia now

the sanctions. The only way to break Putin is to say to the international banks, you can't do business with Moscow. Now China and North Korea are going to do business with Moscow no matter what. But if the rest of the world, if the banking system doesn't, then Putin is done. That's the sanction that matters. I would have done that sanction six months ago when it was clear that Putin was not going to stop killing people.

But just keep that in mind. Sanctions are only effective up to a point. You have to understand, if Vladimir Putin does not care about his own people, if they starve to death, he doesn't care. I mean, obviously, when you've got a quarter of a million dead and 700,000 wounded, that's approaching a million casualties for what? For what? You think Putin cares about human life? He does not. He is a psychopath. He enjoys inflicting pain on human beings. And I know that because we researched this man Putin as well as anybody could. And he leads my upcoming book on September 9th, Confronting

Evil. He's on it, cover of it, as you probably know. This is not a normal human being, Putin. He's a lot like the mullahs. Very similar. In fact, the mullahs. Okay, very similar in effect. The mullahs never would have stopped funding terrorism, and they probably haven't to this day, but we don't know about it, ever, until we bomb them and they were looking at the edge of extinction, then the mullahs pulled back. Okay, but they were never going to stop killing people because they like to kill people. This is Iran. Putin's the same way. It's the same thing.

But we can't bomb Putin because he has nuclear weapons. And you just can't get into that kind of a confrontation on this planet. Putin knows that. And he flashes the nuclear thing all the time. All right. So, summing up, NATO is going to purchase a number of very sophisticated US weapons, including Patriot missiles. Trump went out of his way to say NATO is going to pay us for them to mollify the far right

isolationist movement. That's what that was about. And then Trump says, if we don't have a's firing 50 days, 5-0, 100% tariffs. But unless he does the banking stuff, it's really not going to matter very much. And that's the memo. So I asked my staff to find a really good guest on this that's not going to give you the predictable stuff,

because I hate that. And I believe you're bored by it. So we came up with a guy named Mihail Chowitzky. He teaches at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University outside of Boston, which is a very, very good school. Now, Dr. Chowitzky got his PhD in Russia. He's a Russian national in this country legally, of course, and he taught

at the Russian Academy of Science, among other schools in Moscow. First of all, Dr., we appreciate your time. Am I making any mistakes with Putin and my analysis today? Well, actually, I think, Bill, you are quite accurate. And I was even surprised to hear this great analysis regarding banking sanctions. That's exactly what would matter. And I think that's exactly what the Russian government is mostly concerned with not so much the secondary sanctions as they are called secondary tariffs on whatever India or China sends to the United States. That is going to be difficult to impose. But targeting Russia's remaining participation in the global financial system is, of course, going to be

much more conducive to. Yeah, and I hope Trump does, Eddie. He has not done it so far. As I said, I would have done it much earlier. And it's not Monday morning quarterback. We don't fool around here, doctor. We know what's going on all over the place. I don't know whether you know, but I spent some time in Beijing in May. I know what's going on all over the place. I don't know whether you know, but I spent some time in Beijing in May.

I mean, I know what's going on. And the oligarchs who prop Putin up, and that includes the generals of the military, as you know, okay, they're dependent on foreign money. They have all their money in foreign banks. That money's not a Moscow. You slap sanctions and freezes on all of the oligarch's money, all of the

general's money, and Putin is done. Am I wrong? Well, I think, well, generals might not have plenty of money stashed abroad, but you are right that this feeling of situations still being reversible for the oligarch and a large segment, millions of people in Russia who have assets both inside their country and in the West. So they feel it's still reversible and they see the deal that the Trump administration puts on the table. And if the situation kind of shifts towards

irreversible with these new secondary sanctions and... I don't know if it's irreversible because Putin at some point is going to make a calculation just like the mullahs made in Iran that, look, I better stop or I better do something. But let me ask you this question. There's no really reliable reporting coming out of Russia because they don't allow free press there, as you know. And if you go against Putin, you might wind up dead. Okay. Literally dead. As we saw last week with another, I think it was like 45 former members of the Putin's government are dead by suicide. They've fallen out windows. You know what the game is. But the Russian people themselves, all right, today, you know, we get reports that,

are they still back Putin? Can that be possible? Well, the Russian people have largely been brainwashed and this heavy-handed propaganda has been going on for more than a decade now and it became especially violent in the run-up to the war. And then you are right that there's no accurate sociological data you can get out of Russia these days. But as we have seen over the past three and a half years

of the war counting on the Russian society to stand up against the war, maybe not even against Putin, but just to become mildly critical about the war and do it openly that hasn't materialized. So- Yeah, but I wonder why. I mean, I remember the Vietnam War days,

I was around and you had all of these Americans, 55,000 of them coming down dead, all right, and a lot of them coming home wounded, and the American public saw that in their towns. And they go, what are we doing over there? All right, just under, Russian people of the state, you know, you're losing sons and your friends and husbands and brothers and do they don't care about that?

Well, the short answer would be that the Russians are being paid to remain quiescent and they are being promised a way of life that would largely leave them immune to the war, a major war that is being fought. Give me an example of what they're being promised, because Russians don't live very well. I mean, come on, they're not America over there. They don't have any money, and they're not living large. What are they being promised? No, but over the Putin years, the standards of living in large, what are they being promised? No, but over the Putin years,

the standards of living in Russia and in particularly in large cities like Moscow have risen dramatically. So- And that's because of oil, is that the oil sale? Yeah, well, largely oil money, but making economy more efficient, borrowing some Western technology,

getting some investment from the West, including the United States, you know, the stock market and you know, there's there's ways to raise money for Russian corporations, or at least they used to be such ways and they are no longer in existence after 2022. So that makes sense. Final question. Do you think President Trump is doing anything wrong here? I mean, obviously, he made a mistake because he did believe he could reason with Putin and that has not come out to be true.

Is the president making any other mistakes in this conflict? Well, I think from the perspective of ending the war, he's making a very reasonable evolution. And what I also liked about him is that he seems not to be deterred or impressed by any nuclear brinkmanship and nuclear blackmail by some Russian figures. So he immediately calls them out on that brinkmanship. And that was something that I think the previous administration was cautious not to push the envelope too far because of that. Now the Kremlin knows there's limits

as to how heavily that they can try to blackmail Trump. Otherwise, he's making progress in his you know thinking about Russia and that he invokes his You know conversations with millennia who apparently tells him look, you know What Putin is doing after you've just talked with him that makes the whole thing very personal to him So I would expect more of that evolution in the in the coming week. Yeah, and I'm to him. So I would expect more of that evolution in the in the coming week. Yeah, and I'm Mr. Trump could lean on China a little bit. And I hope that happens. Hey, Professor, we really appreciate it.

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Also on our YouTube channel, at Presidents Daily Brief. You're listening to the NoSpA News Weekend Edition. Disturbing story out of New England. Okay, here's what happened. A guy named Chris Landry, 46 years old, legal US resident, five children. He works in manufacturing. He lives in Peterborough, New Hampshire.

He goes to Canada on vacation. He drives up there. He comes back through the port of entry of Holton, Maine, which I've been to. It's the furthest point north in Maine. He presents his credentials to the Border Patrol in Holton, Maine. Okay? They say you're not allowed back. Traveling with three of his children. They let the kids in and they're older, so they go back to New Hampshire, but Mr. Landry is still in Canada. He is being denied entry back here. Why? Because he, in 2007, had a pot beef, not a big one,

but he had a marijuana possession, all right? And that was 18 years ago. Since that time, Landry says he's been to Canada many times, no problem, but now there is a problem. Now I looked at this and I said, this is wrong. If you want to bring him before an immigration court, Now, I looked at this and I said, this is wrong. If you want to bring him before an immigration court, okay. Okay.

If that's what ICE wants to do, I don't have object to it. I think it's a waste of money. But on a humane basis, man, it's five kids. And they're all US citizens. They all live in New Hampshire. And you can't get back? No. Sorry. No. That is cruel.

And it doesn't protect me or my family or you or your family. Does it? Okay. Joining us now is probably the most astute immigration lawyer in the country. And I'll back it up. He represents Melania Trump and her family. He did represent John Lennon when the U.S. Department of State tried to deport him on pot charges or drug charges. Michael Wiles comes to us from New York City.

He's also the mayor of Englewood, New Jersey, so he's a busy guy. All right, so I'm assuming that Melania is not gonna be deported, right? She's okay, counselor? She's safe, Mr. Riley, and it was my late father, Leon Wiles, who passed away a year ago,

who actually represented the famous beetle against the Nixon administration at the time. But, quite a legacy. But, Crystal Sheparding is practiced forward on Madison Avenue. Okay. So I'm this guy in Chris Landry,

and I come to your office, or I send a representative, I send my wife or whoever in and say, look, you gotta get me back into the USA, this is ridiculous, what do you do specifically to solve this problem? Thank you, thank you again, Bill, for having me on. Listen, the Controlled Substance Act of 1971

schedules marijuana as a schedule one drug. As bad as it gets, such a conviction has catastrophic consequences even for green card holders. Departing after a conviction, even with a green card, he was a green card holder, the gentleman since he was three years old, subjects him to what's termed to be inadmissibility charges on his return. Now that means that Mr. Landry can be returned to the United States. He has a green card, so he's entitled to a day in immigration court. I want you to know a few hours ago, I had a U.S. citizen who consulted with us because

he was concerned about his being returned to the United States. He would be heard in a federal court. But Mr. Lanter, who would be eligible for a waiver, they don't have to mandatorily incarcerate him if they want to. The law allows them when it comes back because it's a controlled substance crime that he was convicted of.

But what we would be doing would be a few things first We would look to see if we could have the crime vitiated we would look to see whether or not there was a constitutional problem Alright, but don't get don't get just right now. He got to get back to Peterborough, New Hampshire Okay, he's entitled to a day in court. Alright, so what would you do? Okay, he's entitled to a day in court. All right. So what would you do? Sani should hire you So you would do an emergency petition right away try to get it in front of an immigration judge Is that what you would do? He would come to the united states. He would go off but they won't let him in

Counsel, no, they they they will let him in somebody has to negotiate That they admit with all right when you say they You pick up the phone. Who do you call to get this guy back? we call ice and we ask for them to Have him return to the United States He does not make a formal admission and they issue what's called an NTA notice to appear in a remote Okay and they issue what's called an NTA notice to appear in a remote facility. Okay, all right. So you call them up on a phone or is it an email or a registered letter?

We would call up ICE because of the profile of this matter and ask... Would you get anybody on the phone though immediately? Are the people there to answer your call? You would. Yes, we would go up the chain of command. The decision has to be made. So you're confident if this guy hired you, you could get him back within hours? Within a day. Within a day, all right. He's already been out two days.

He's already been out in Canada two days. Which is unconscionable for a green card holder with five viewers, citizens, and children. That's why I'm doing this story. That's why I'm doing it. You know me, for many years, I don't want chaos in our immigration thing. I think Joe Biden is the worst president

on immigration in our history, by far. There's no even close second. And I've been saying this for decades that you've got to regulate immigration into America. But this one comes under humane, right? Of course. Now here's my next question. Family unification is a bedrock of our immigration policy. Okay. The left, the hate trumpers, are now portraying Homeland Security eyes as having no interest in humanity, fairness, human right, or any of that.

All I want to do is kick everybody out. Is that true? It's not true. I'm a former federal prosecutor myself. I'm actually a proud Democrat and a mayor, a five-term mayor in New Jersey. I don't like some of the things that they're doing. We're representing a wine company in Edison, New Jersey that was raided a few days ago. I don't like the people that they're picking up or how they're doing it. But this president is returning on his promise to go

after those hardened criminals. When they realize there aren't as many bad people in I don't like how they knock on doors. Even in my city, they're knocking on doors and they're saying, it's the police. And they say, what do you want? Well, we have gifts for your kids. And then they go in and they arrest somebody. All right, but there's always abuses. I mean, that's not a policy. Not a policy. But I want to get the bigger picture here.

So let's review. So let's look at the big picture here. So let's look at the big picture here. So let's look at the big picture here. So let's look at the big picture here. they arrest somebody. All right, but there's always abuses. I mean, that's not a policy. Not a policy. But I want to get the bigger picture here. So let's review. Number one, if this guy hires you,

you think you can get him back in 24 hours, he would go before that and he'd have a hearing in an immigration court to review. We wouldn't have a hearing. We would negotiate. All right, you negotiate his status. and then he would end up having to be Heard in the foot in an immigration court and you're confident you would win the case. Oh Yeah, I mean Bill. Okay, all right five children US citizens. I got it

I'm just trying to get remedies available to him to defend himself. Okay, so right now He's not getting good advice from anybody because they could have already called you and there are a lot of other immigration Attorneys skilled ones in New England who could have done the same thing or that's done this years ago You should have done this without leaving each time he came back. He faced this jeopardy, right? He didn't protect himself as the way he should. All right, so now after this segment, which will go worldwide, I kind of think that what you just said will happen.

I can't guarantee it, but we'll do a follow-up tomorrow and we appreciate your time very much, Mr. Wiles. Thank you very much. Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington

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So you remember the two New York City police officers who were assaulted and was caught on videotape, so they did it. On November 13th, 2023, 18 months ago, there's the assault. Two men were charged with a felony assault in the second degree. Today they were in court. Their case was adjourned for the 19th time. 19th time by D.A. Darcel Clark.

Okay. That means they're out on the street till September 3rd. This is coming up on two years now. They will not put these thugs in court. The Bronx. And I wonder why crime is out of control in that very poor part of New York City. Nineteen times, 19 times the case has been adjourned. This is a collapse. Here might be worse. We called the cop unions and the people who are supposed to be defending the New York City police 17 times. They refused to come on the program. We called the police benevolent association, police conference of New York, the fraternal order of police, on and on and on. Now, won't defend their own police. Because in New York City, very few people know about this. Don't even know it. Joining us now is retired New York City police detective, Bo Deedle. You know him. He's a movie star now. He's in Godfather of Harlem.

He play Genovese, is that who you're playing now? You some mob guy? Tommy Gambino. Gambino, Genovese, Gambino. No, no, no, Tommy Lucchese, you got me wrong. I don't even know who I'm playing anymore. You don't even know, all right. So you're Lucchese, all right.

But in your real life, you're Bo Deedle, who had a very distinguished career in the NYPD, as did my grandfather. I'm so outraged about this. I tell you how I can't get any angrier. Can you explain this to me? It's just part of the patent bill that has happened. This is the George Floyd effect on and on with the demonstrations. Since 2020, when these pieces of garbage were able to demonstrate, burn, assault, actual some murders involved, the prosecution, everyone turned against the police, defund the police, defund the police. Now you have in New York State, because we have to start with the state, you have an assembly and you have a Senate that will not pass any kind of bills in support of the police. of what the police officers can do. Now they also have this diaphragm law. When you're fighting with someone, if you get them into a headlock, that's illegal. Immediately when a cop gets someone in a

headlock or gets on top of them, they file a suit against them. The charges are dropped. They testify against the cop. Then you've got district attorneys. Like you just pointed out with this case, these officers were beat pretty bad. There were stitches involved and everything. That's why it's assault to a felony. And I'm outraged, Bill, listening to what you just said, that this is put off. That's the DAs and the damn judges. When they put these liberal judges in there, I mean, a judge is supposed to make a judgment call. When you've got animals like this, if they're gonna assault the police officer the way they did, imagine what they'll do to a regular person.

You and me are children on the streets. Right, these people are career criminals anyway, and they know that and they put them back on the street. But in order to counter this, Bo, you would have to have an organized police presence with demonstrations, with signs, with pressure, with the media, and you don't have anything. Not one word.

They have turned us down on every request to come in and condemn this whole case. They will not do it. Do you know why? No, I don't know why, but I'm going to tell you something. I was with Kaz Dautry, the deputy mayor of public safety last night. I had dinner up in Campionola's with him. We had dinner, and this is one of the issues that he told me he wanted me to get back on. And I promise you one thing, I told him I was going to be on your show, and I said, I want answers. Why?

Now, when you go to the unions, you have a PBA, you have a DEA. I'm still a member of the DEA. But I'm going to reach out to the president of the PBA, and you are exactly right. There should be demonstrations going on. In front of that, DEA's office in the Bronx. This is an outrage. And I'm really, really side with you on this one,

Bill. That's where I came from. But now, it's a moral outrage. It's just wrong. It's indefensible. But there's more than that. It demoralizes every single police officer in the city, because they know they could be beaten, they could be next. And nothing is going to happen to them because of the Darcel Clarks of the world, but their own people aren't defending them. How can you ask people to put their lives on the line every day in a dangerous city like New York when they know nobody's got their back. That's why, Bill, more police officers in New York City

are retiring than ever before. They can't recruit people to come on to the New York City Police Department. And a lot of people don't know if they're doing their jobs completely legally, they still could be sued civilly. That's like the poor cop that has a little house out in Levittown paying his mortgage or her mortgage.

And next thing is they get sued civilly, and they take his house or her house away. And right now, what's going on, they cannot bring people on the police department. And they're lowering their standards, Bill. This is a craziness. Then we got some fool running for mayor that wants to defund the police department. And he's got more votes than anybody. For our audience who doesn't live in New York City and doesn't really know how intense it is,

describe when you were on the job, okay, and then now, how big a difference. Oh, we had tremendous differences. We had a lot of differences. on the job, okay? And then now, how big a difference? Well, we had tremendous support. We had tremendous support from our unions, even the higher echelon of the police department. I was very active.

I made over 1,500 felonies. I was a decoy cop 500 times. I was mugged, hospitalized 30 times, stabbed, shot, and all that. When I got in a fight with somebody and I had to do necessary force, let's not call it a beating, let's call it necessary force, I'm fighting so you don't get my gun,

I punched him, I hit him with the hand radio, I did whatever I had to do to get him or her, not too many hers, but definitely get him restrained. And you know what? I said what I did and why I did it. And I was supported. I was the recipient of 40 civilian complaints. I'm very proud of every one of them.

And you know what? I was never founded on one of them because all I did was my job. And I told the truth and that's it. I'm out there and I'm with my partner. I'm fighting with a guy with a knife or a gun. I wanna make sure my partner goes home safely and I go home safely.

And I did what I had to do, reasonable force. Today, now you got video cameras. What they do is after the cop gets punched, they take the video of the second part of the cop arresting him. Not the original incident that occurred. And with the advent of these cell phones, that's a destruction to the police department also.

Could you do the job today? Because I know you love being a detective. I mean, you like the work and all of that. Could you do it today? No, and I think I would actually maybe break my son's arm if he wanted to become a New York City cop. I would not let him. Nobody I love if he wanted to become a New York City cop. I would not let him.

Nobody I love will. I let come on the police department. It's a disgrace of what it's become, and I feel horrible. Now you have more than 55%, 60% of the police department have under five years. That means you have inexperienced people out there that don't really want to do any kind of reaction. We used to go out there and we used to find the crime before these guys committed the crime, find the bad guys. There's no proactivity

with the police. Don't get involved. Drive by. I've seen them drive by many a times where they're not getting involved. Oh, crime is down because no one is reporting anything. Forget quality of life. So if you're a drug addict and you're sitting in front of a school with a needle in your neck, cops aren't going to do anything to you. No, that's it. You can walk on the streets right now. I'm on Fifth Avenue, 42nd Street, right by Brian Park for people around the country, the heart of New York City.

You can walk out there any time and you have people there. You can't wear watches. You can't do this. Everyone's scared stiff. Forget about getting on a train. You know, you go on a train, you take your life in hand. My son, who's 30 years old, my son Bo, he goes, Bo, dad, you know what I do? I do no eye contact. He goes, if I do eye contact, I can get in a fight every two minutes with people. This episode is brought to you by Square. You're not just running a restaurant. You're building eye contact, I can get in a fight every two minutes with people. Plus the funding you need to go even bigger. And real-time insights so you know what's working, what's not, and what's next. Because when you're doing big things, your tools should too. Visit square.ca to get started.

Last question. When you don't have an effective justice system, which in New York City we do not. And you're right, it's the laws that Andrew Cuomo signed, the law is a very, very important legal system, a very important legal justice system, which in New York City we do not. And you're right. It's the laws that Andrew Cuomo signed, Hokel comes all the way down. Okay? When you have a system that is collapsed, there is no

protection for anybody. Wrong? Wrong? The worst thing in the world is the district attorney is supposed to be protecting those cops when they're doing their jobs. And when your district attorney, the prosecutor, don't support you, what the hell do police officers have? They have nothing. Then you've got these judges, these liberal judges that don't care about the cops or don't care about the public.

All they care about is the criminal element. This is what's wrong, Bill. And I tell you what, you talk about no spin zone, this is a spin into the toilet bowl for America, across this country. It's happening across the country. Not just in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Baltimore, on and on.

All right, but you stay safe out there, and it's a good Baltimore, on and on. All right, well, you stay safe out there and it's a good show, Godfather of Harlem. I'm just one of the few that I actually watch. Right. And it's very music. Tommy Lucchese, Tommy Lucchese. It's, you play the gangster when your whole life you're trying to put those guys away.

There's something- No, no, no. I grew up with John Gotti. I went one way, they went another way. Yeah, but you didn't like John Gotti. So. Well, no comment. I didn't like him. All right, Bo Diddle, everyone. There you go. Thank you for listening to the No Spin News Weekend Edition.

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