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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition.
All right, let's bring in a guy who knows the media, almost as well as I do, Bernie Goldberg.
He just had an operation, I think they amputated his leg, but Bernie wanted to.
Hey, hey, hey, he wanted to be on, and I got his doctor's note that says he can go on.
He, of course, is the purveyor of Bernardgoberg.com, which I have been following, because you've got some very,
lively stuff on that website,
bernardgoburg.com, so we're pleased to have you.
So am I crazy to go after NBC News for what they do?
No, you're not crazy at all about it.
You may be crazy, but not for that reason.
What's most interesting about that, from my point of view,
is not simply that Joy Reed thinks everybody's a racist,
or Joe Scarborough pontificates as if he's a scholar
and they call everybody a Nazi who's not a progressive.
What's most troubling, Bill, is that they're allowed to do that.
Is that people who wear suits and ties
and have titles of chief executive officer
and titles like that
and have public companies that Wall Street keeps an eye on,
they don't care.
They don't care, because if they cared, they'd say something, they'd not only take them off the morning after the shooting or yesterday morning, they'd do something longer term about that and simply say, you're allowed to have a progressive view, you're allowed to not like Donald Trump, but you're not allowed to cross the line because words matter.
That's right.
You know, I let it call them a racist or a Nazi or any of this, unless you're making a historical point.
But it's worse than them allowing it.
They recruit it.
Comcast NBC recruits these people and pays them well to spout this hate.
Now, people come back to me when I say this, they go, what about Fox News?
And I'm going, if you look at the rundown of Fox News, you don't have many people using ad hominem attacks over there.
There are a few.
Gutfeld goes up to the line.
but Gutfeld says he's a satirist.
It's a comedy thing.
It's like Colbert.
But when you go down the list, yeah, their bias is apparent.
Okay, Fox News bias is apparent.
But they're not calling people racist and Nazis and really getting into the fabric
and trying to destroy human beings, which is what the progressive left loves to do.
They want to destroy you, not just being.
you in the debate go but but nor is spock's criticizing crazy people on the hard right who say
joe biden ordered ordered the attempted assassination on don't they're marginal people they
look the other way when when people i don't know about i did it yesterday i i ran it yesterday the real
far right cooks i had up here and i and i played a montage but would i cover them
No, and the reason is they don't mean anything.
They don't have a big corporation behind them, like Disney and the View.
They don't have that.
They're in their basement.
No, no, no, no.
They're members of Congress.
It's one thing when the village idiot comes up with some crazy conspiracy because he's a village idiot.
But when the village idiot is a member of Congress, a legitimate news organization calls him out for saying that.
And Fox is very good, very good at pointing out everything wrong with the left.
And I mean they're very good at that.
But they sort of shrug their shoulders or ignore when the crazy stuff comes from the right.
Let me make another point if I might build, because you're a historian who's written about books about history.
We have no sense of history in this country.
If we had a sense of history, we would remember what happened in that.
Dallas, when JFK was vilified, vilified as a communist, as someone who hated America, and then he gets killed in Dallas.
We have no sense of history about what happened in Memphis.
Martin Luther King was portrayed as someone who hated white people, who hated America.
And then James Earl Ray killed him in Memphis.
So when you call Donald Trump a Nazi, when you call him Hitler, and by the way, it's not the, it's the mainstream left that's calling him these names.
It's the New Republic.
It's not the, the new, if the fringe does it, they're the fringe, right.
But the New Republic was a respected magazine for over 100 years, and they put a cover of Hitler morphed into Donald Trump on the cover.
The Washington Post and other big newspapers run op-eds from scholars, liberal scholars, making comparisons to Trump and Hitler.
Well, who knows what motivated this 20-year-old guy? We don't know. We may never know.
Look, it's rage.
But we do know this. We do know this. You call somebody Hitler long enough. Don't be shocked when they try to kill Hitler.
All of the assassins and attempted assassins in American history had one thing in common. That was raged.
R-A-G-E and that precludes ideology all right I have one more topic I want to get
to you so Lester Holt our very professional man good reporter when he interviews
somebody like Biden he doesn't have the backup to challenge am I wrong no but I'm
gonna be a little understanding if that's the right word it's not easy don't
you know this better than anybody it's not easy
doing live interviews or live to tape interviews with no edits and you can't catch everything.
Now, what you said earlier in this program, what you would have said as a follow-up is
absolutely correct, 100% correct.
You say, Mr. President, you just said that you don't do that, but you do.
If Lester Holt didn't do that, I don't think it was because of any bias.
I don't think it was because he was covering for Joe Biden.
didn't do it. You were right, but I'm not going to go as hard on Lester Holt as you did.
But the bigger picture is Mike Wallace would have done it. Okay? The pros, like you and I,
we came up. We were trained. We just don't ask. You have to have follow-up anticipating
that Biden's going to deny that he uses it. And they don't have it. It's not just Lester.
None of them. They had no backup. All right, Bernie Goldberg, everybody.
Bernie, bernard goldberg.com.
All right, I hope the wound heals fast.
I had an operation on my foot.
My leg is still there, Bill.
My leg, don't tell people they amputate in my leg.
Well, I thought somebody might put up a go-fund meet for you or something.
I was trying to help you out.
Wait a second, that's a good idea.
All right, we'll see you soon.
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episode. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So we asked our pal, Monica Crowley,
who is at the convention, to be our eyes and ears. And she joins us now from the floor someplace,
right? Where are you? You're a brewery in Milwaukee or where are you?
No, no. Hi. Hi from Milwaukee, not a brewery, but Meteor Row. Meteor Row. Okay. It was very nice of you
because I know you're in great demand. Everybody wants your attention. Thanks for talking it was.
Right off the bat, what has struck you, what is number one in Monica Crowley's mind
about the convention so far? Well, you know, Bill, I've been to several Republican conventions.
It's not as many as you, but I've been to several, and this one is just by magnitude so much different, and different meaning electric.
I think the events of Saturday afternoon, Saturday evening, and Pennsylvania changed everything.
And they certainly scrambled the political calculus for all sides, but this convention is happening at a time when people have greater appreciation for Donald Trump and the leader that he,
is. So the energy in the convention center, the energy all around in Milwaukee is absolutely
electric. I've never seen anything like this before. I've never experienced anything like this
before. And the kind of unity in the party, we used to have the never Trumpers, and we had
others that just sort of disregarded President Trump or didn't agree with him and we're thinking
to undermine his chances. All of that is now gone. And this party is completely unified behind
this president. And there's a real sense of, and you and I've talked about this before,
there is a real sense of absolute love for this man. And I've said this from the beginning,
that the bond that Donald Trump has with his voters is not political, it's not ideological,
it is emotional. And after the events of Saturday, that emotional bond bill is
absolutely unbreakable. So when he came out on Monday night, wearing the bandage over his ear,
for the first time looking human rather than superhuman, there was not a dry eye in the house.
Everybody had tears rolling down their eyes. And in fact, President Trump looked extremely moved
as well, and you never see that out of him. So the emotional dimension to this is something I've
never seen before and makes this convention very different.
Okay, so I agree that's accurate in that 90% of Republicans will unify and vote for Donald Trump.
That never Trump or movement is done.
It's finished.
That's not coming back.
When you listen to the speakers, I mean Ramoswame, the whole crew, doesn't get a little numbing on.
I'm not picking on anybody, but isn't a lot of the same stuff?
Well, every night has its theme, Make America Strong Again, Make America Wealthy again.
And the final night, tomorrow night will be Make America Great Again, featuring President Trump and his acceptance speech.
You know, when you're steeped in policy like you and I are a bill,
sometimes you can kind of tune it out because you've heard it a million times before and you know it like the back of your hands.
But I think, again, this year is different because of the America First Movement,
which President Trump really started back in 2015.
So a lot of people are looking, not just to the vice presidential nominee, J.D. Vance, to be carrying the flag forward because President Trump can only serve one term.
So they're looking at all of the voices like Vivek, like Governor DeSantis, like perhaps Nikki Haley.
They're judging them now differently. So when they hear the policy speeches, maybe they're kind of tuning out the policy, but they're paying attention to the personality.
You know, how much of America first are you really?
Can we trust you going forward?
Are you going to be a viable candidate going forward for MAGA?
Because this whole party is now something totally different.
This is no longer the establishment GOP.
I don't think most of the Republican Party are MAGA.
I think it's probably 50-50.
I disagree with you.
I got to stop you there, Bill.
I love you, but I got to stop you.
I don't think that's true.
I think this is Donald Trump's party.
this is an America First Party.
I think the GOP establishment still exists,
but it's on its last legs,
and I think the vast majority,
I would say if I'd put a number on it,
75, 80% of the Republican Party is now America First.
Let me challenge.
I think you're wrong because 50% of the Republican Party
supports Donald Trump's,
90% of the Republican Party
supports Donald Trump's policies.
But there is a significant,
minority, non-Maga people, that when Mr. Trump makes a rhetorical mistake, they don't like it.
Well, they might disagree with it, or they might be offended by it or something.
But in the end, I think there is a vast recognition that this party is now MAGA.
This is America First.
I can tell you because, and you have your ear to the ground, too, with the Republican base,
there is no way they're ever going back to an establishment candidate.
No more John McCain's, no more Jim Bushes, no more George W. Bushes, no more Mitt Romney's.
You know, when you take the person off the farm and show them the big city, they're not going back to the farm.
I would agree that a populist. There's a populist movement within the Republican Party because some of the other Republicans in the past have really not accomplished what the cultural aspect of the MAGA movement is.
They don't want woke.
They don't want all this stuff.
And those people like Romney, they avoided that.
Okay.
I'm very curious about Idaho.
You have been, what a summer for you?
I was trying to buy Monica dinner.
I've been trying to buy Monica dinner for three months because she's been so generous to us.
And I can't because she's always flitting around with the swells.
So you go to Sun Valley, Idaho with a wealthy people.
I'm talking about establishment.
You're right in the middle of all those pinheads, okay?
Tell the audience who's never going to get invited to that.
I'll never get invited to it.
What goes on there at this conference in Idaho?
So you're referring to the Allen & Company conference,
which is an annual conference in Sun Valley, Idaho.
Allen & Company is a small boutique investment firm
that handles a lot of big deals,
mostly legacy media deals,
but now they're into big tech as well.
well. I do not get invited my significant other gifts invited, so I go with him. But it is
incredible because the guest list is not to be believed. It's all the world's most villainous
globalist, Bill. It's Bill Gates. It's Mark Zuckerberg. It's Tim Cook of Apple. It's the head
of Disney, Bob Iger. And the guest list has been published, but the rest of the meetings are
off the record. So I can't tell you exactly what is said, but I can tell you that a lot of deals go down
there between legacy media and big tech and the rest.
The only one.
Business deals, right?
Money.
Business deals.
It's like Davos.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Although I will say that last year, I saw Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg having
lunched together by the Duck Pond.
And I thought maybe they were plotting to rig.
Take over the world.
That's just my speculation.
I have to ask you these questions because if I were there, I'd be yelling at all these
people and they'd have to get bouncers to throw me out of Idaho.
So you're there, and there's these wealthy people that are all making deals, and this is what they like to do, and I got this kind of a yacht, I got this jet, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, okay. But that's the establishment. That's, those are the people that the MAGA people don't like, right?
Right. Yes, that's including me.
You don't like them? Don't say that. You will get a, you're, I mean. I know Monica's other.
We won't get invited again if you say that.
No, look, I mean, they're all very nice in person.
It's their agendas that I disagree with.
And frankly, when I'm there, Bill, I find it fascinating
because somebody like Bill Gates or, you know, Steve Jobs when he used to come,
Sam Altman, the head of Open AI, talking about artificial intelligence.
It is fascinating to me to listen to them and watch how their brains work
because it is a completely different way than your.
brain works or my brain works. These tech guys are a different species. And it's fascinating for me
coming from a different political point of view, different life experience to listen to what they
have to say because it's always good to hear the other side, but also if you hear about what
they're working on for the future. It's a learning experience. One more question. You say it's
off the record. Say you wrote an article about this. Because Monica is honest. I don't know to tell my
audience. I've known Monica forever. It's not going to give you any BS. You're going to tell you
what it is or what she thinks it is. True. So what, say you wrote and say, look, this is what
I heard. You would be a pariah, right? You would be like, forget it. Okay. Correct. So they want
to be secret. In addition to pinheads, these people want to be secret pinheads. They want to be
furtive pinheads, right? At least at that conference, they do. Yes, Bill. Okay. I, I, I,
I got that number, Monica.
But thank you very much because, you know, I know it's beautiful states, Sun Valley, a great place.
But I'll never be here.
All right, Monica Crowley, thank you very much for taking time.
We know you're busy, as I stated.
And check out Monica's podcast, by the way.
You're doing a podcast from here, right, from the convention?
I am, yes.
It's the Monica Crowley podcast.
I'm also now posting on Rumble.
So you can find my show at the Monica Crowley podcast on Rumbles.
It's stream there.
So please go check it out.
And thank you, Bill.
Okay, Monica, see you soon.
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Here's a gem from the No Spin News Vault.
Okay, let's bring in a guy who will follow as a military aspect of this
because that's what's coming next.
Colonel David Hunt, you know him.
You see them all the time on a factor.
It comes to us from Maine.
You want to look up David Hunt.
He's got all kinds of men.
medals and honors, very brave men, Vietnam War, all of that.
So my first question is, to you, I'm right about Iran.
They don't have any capacity to attack Israel, correct?
Yeah, I mean, they attack Israel through proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah.
Iran is very weak.
They're a problem.
They're probably the center of the universe, the Middle East,
partly because of what we did in Iraq.
But no, they're not attacking Israel directly.
They're attacking Israel right now with the Moss,
and we'll see if Fesbilar comes from the north
or terrorist groups come out of the West Bank.
Okay.
So it's the same scenario that it's always been.
You mentioned Iraq.
Right before airtime, there are a couple of drones launched by terrorists
toward our air base in Western Iraq,
where there are U.S. Special Forces.
forces based. We took care of the drones. They didn't get through. But I don't think many Americans
know that we have forces still in Iraq that police Syria and the surrounding terror hotspots,
correct? We've got 2,500 soldiers out of the 10th Mountain Division. They're going to be there
for nine months. They're in Kuwait, Syria, and Iraq, mostly doing guard missions and some
patrolling. But that 2,500 manned force has been going on rotating every 10 months for a couple
of years now. So, yeah, we've got forces there. And you need them there because the remnants of
ISIS and al-Qaeda and they're still floating around. We also have military in Turkey, correct?
Absolutely. But a huge, huge base, insolent, huge air force base. Yep, we do. But that's problematic
because of the U.S.A. had to get involved with Iran or another Muslim nation.
I don't know if Turkey's going to be down with that and let us use that base to attack people.
They didn't in Iraq, as you know.
They wouldn't do it in the 20 years we're in Iraq or to Afghanistan.
So my bet is, yeah, no, they won't let us do it.
Okay, so why are we there?
Why are we have all this big base in a Turkey?
What do we accomplish by doing that?
Well, it gets us closer to attacking some of our enemies.
We have influence there, but the Turks are, as you know, duplicitous and cannot be kind of on fully.
Yeah, then NATO members.
There's a great question as to we could, there's a good argument we made to Poland.
No more question.
Okay.
But there's a lot of CIA there on that base.
There's a lot of intel.
Do you have any idea why the Israeli and American intel was taken by surprise by the Hamas attack?
No. There's no good explanation for 40 separate crossing sites developed by Hamas.
There's, they captured Israeli military bases.
The number of hostages is at least 200.
besides the women and kids, they took Israeli generals.
This was a complete disaster from the Israeli standpoint
as worse than the mistake made in the 73 war
when they missed the Syrian and Egyptian tanks massing on their border.
There's no explanation.
And we get most of our intelligence from that area from Israel.
But this was a complete failure,
and it has to be addressed because that's the same.
intelligence community that's going to be used on the attack in the Gaza.
Unless you can figure out why and how you miss this, you've got a disaster in the hands going
in the Gaza.
Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised the CIA missed it because they have a big presence in Tel Aviv at
the American.
Well, the American embassy has been moved to Jerusalem.
Yes.
And they have a presence in Jerusalem, but they also have big presence in Tel Aviv, and they
work very closely with the Israeli intelligence.
They both missed it, and that sends a real chilling message as far as our self-protection
is concerned.
They're going to miss that.
What else are they missing, you know?
They missed the Taliban coming north to south when we did that disaster pullout.
That was a huge intelligence failure, and nobody paid for it.
When this question is getting asked the last 10 days, the Israelis and Americans want to pat you
on the head and say, don't worry about that now.
Let's go fight this war.
Well, no, you've got to get it.
You have to have the answer.
Okay.
Because that's the community that failed depending on.
Final question, the aircraft carriers.
We've got the USS Ford already in the Mediterranean.
Another big carrier coming in.
And this is basically to send a message that, you know,
we're going to protect U.S. interests, and we can bomb the hell.
out of you from the sea. This, again, sends a message to Iran. You better not mess around.
Or is there more to it than that? That's primary mission. Also, they've got phenomenal intel
on both those aircraft carrier battle groups. They'll put Marines on there if there's going to have to
be another evacuation, a large evacuation of U.S. and the threat, and they'll supply intelligence
and logistical support, as we're doing right now, to Israel for as long as it takes.
The main one is a political statement, military statement, just like you said, Iran do not school around,
keep Hezbollah and Lebanon, and keep control of the units you have in the West Bank,
because we won't stand for that.
And those missiles on those carriers, they're capable of reaching Hezbollah and all that stuff.
They can just launch right out of there, right?
Absolutely. And we've got, you know, submarines, et cetera, that can reach Iran. There's no issue about us being able to reach out. But they stick those. That's, as you know, that's a lot of ships surrounding an aircraft care. It's a big presence in the Mediterranean.
I hope you're following the best news presentation in the country, which, of course, is me. And I've been setting up this controversy between a Wall Street Journal, which flat out says Iran was behind the Hamas attack.
CNN, which says it was not. Do you have an opinion on it?
100% that Iran has a move back continuously held plan this, finance this,
help train up this. Probably two years there's a planning and rehearsal to get
him to do what Hamas did. There's no question about it. The only reason I can think that we
don't want to admit to this is we don't want to deal with Iran and the middle of doing
Ukraine and helping Israel.
Because there's no other reason.
Israel says guaranteed they do.
I don't, CNN don't care about.
But the U.S. keeps wafering on this, and it's a problem.
All right.
Colonel David Hunt coming on us from Maine.
We appreciate it as always.
Stay well up there.
We'll talk again soon.
I hope.
Thank you.
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