Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - July 26, 2025

Episode Date: July 26, 2025

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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Okay. Trump on his social media thing is celebrating the demise of Stephen Colbert. You guys know what I think of him. I wrote a column on it. It's on BillOReilly.com. By the way, you don't need premium members to read the message of the column. Just go there and read it for everybody you know I was on

late night 75 times in my career I think is a record I mean maybe Jackie Mason or Shecky Green beat me or Robin Williams was on and I know these guys and Colbert, of all of them, he's my least favorite. Because he was in it to harm people with whom he disagrees. That's what he was in it for. Stewart's in it for comedy, satire. He's left. But I never saw him really want to hurt anybody. I mean, Letterman was rough.

He was rough. If you Google O'Reilly Letterman, you'll see some shootouts. Leno and Kimmel didn't used to be political, but he hates Trump. And so he's crossed over. But anyway, Colbert is canceled. And there's two reasons why.

Number one, CBS is being sold to a conservative, more conservative corporation called Skydance. And number two, the Colbert show lost $40 million last year. Why? Because Colbert is not funny anymore, will it take? At this point, Trump isn't even trying to hide his awfulness. In the first Trump term, it took a disease to destroy the tape. At this point, Trump isn't even trying to hide his awfulness. In the first Trump term, it took a disease to destroy the economy.

This time, he is the disease. To be clear, Trump is preannouncing that he's going to break any law he wants to get whatever he wants. Now, I'm no revolutionary. I can't grow the beard. But that is a tyrannical declaration of power. OK, so why do we need that every night? Nobody wants to watch that.

He's got 2 million and a few hundred thousand viewers, but that's nothing. He's losing 40 million a year, and he makes 15 million. So he's out. Joining us now from North Carolina is a guy who knows the networks, particularly CBS, very well. His name is Bernard Goldberg. We call him Bernie, but it's Bernard,

and that's what you punch up when you want to go to his website for wisdom and perspective. That good? Did I say it the way you wrote it? Okay, excellent. I'm a pro, I mean, I can do that. All right, now I think this is a bigger story than Stephen Colbert.

And I predicted, as you know, that Colbert would go. And there are gonna be some people on The View that are gonna go. And Kimmel, And there are going to be some people on The View that are going to go. And Kimmel...possible. But it's a bigger story in the sense that network television is finished. It is over. It is not coming back. And that includes the news agencies.

Do you agree? I do. not coming back and that includes the news agencies. You agree. All right, so you wrote a book early on called bias when you were correspondent CBS and Bernie and I worked for a brief time together at the network. And you nailed it with Dan rather and that crew that they were shading the news to the left and. And I think that's the only way to get the news out of the way. And I think that's the only way to get the news out of the way. And I think that's the only way to get the news out of the way.

And I think that's the only way to get the news out of the way. And I think that's the only way to get the news out of the way. And I think that's the only way to get the news out of the way. And I think that's the only way to get the news out of the way. And I think that's the only way with its demise? Yeah, I do. Bias, which came out right after 9-11, was a wake-up call. It was a warning shot about liberal bias and the harm it causes. But instead of paying attention, what they did was they called me every name in the book. They called me, and I mean this literally, they called me a traitor. These are people who don't call real traitors a traitor, but they called me a traitor. I survived. I'm not at all sure they will.

The new management, Skydance, is headed up by David Ellison, whose father Larry, who I interviewed while I was at CBS, his father Larry is good friends with Donald Trump. David Ellison met with Brandon Carr, this FCC chairman the other day, and said, I want more voices, more variety of voices at CBS News. Which leads me to say this, Bill,

and I'm saying it not literally, but you'll get the idea. There's a better chance that you, Bill O'Reilly, will be the next anchor of the CBS Evening News than will Scott Pelley, who is a liberal who hates Donald Trump or at least doesn't like Donald Trump. They want a variety of voices, and the liberal ones they have now don't provide any variety. All right, but there's no difference between CBS, NBC and ABC, correct? It's the same. Yeah, but I know, but I know CBS better. I know, I know, but I want your opinion on that. It's the same across the board, right? That's right. Okay, so you got Paramount, which is going to sell, you got Comcast, you got Disney,

you got three major corporations here. They all have taken their network franchises way to the left, not a little way to the left. And I'm saying to myself, why? Why would they? Why would you hire a Stephen Colbert when 80 million people voted for Donald Trump? And not one of those people are ever going to watch Stephen Colbert. Why would you hire him? You know, Michael Jordan famously said he was asked to endorse a Democratic candidate for the US Senate. And he said, you know, Republicans buy sneakers too. It's as if these people don't understand

that Republicans have TV sets too, that Republicans watch television too. What's that? They have to. They don't care. Okay, now we're getting there. But if you're the CEO of Brian Roberts at NBC and Eiger at Disney, God knows who wrote in CBS. All right. Your duty is to make your corporation profitable.

But they have put their ideology above that and ruined the three networks top to bottom. I think they have a knee-jerk reaction. And I'd like to know what you think about this. If you say, and I think I reasonably said it in bias, there's a liberal bias in the news. There's no conspiracy. Back then there was no conspiracy. There's a lack of diversity of opinion. Dan Rather never came in, closed the door, called his

top lieutenants in, doused the lights, pulled the shades, gave the secret handshake and the secret salute, and said, let's get those conservatives today. It never, ever happened that way. It was groupthink. They had too many people of the same political mentality. I don't think Bob Iger or the other CEOs think too deeply about this. But I think if you come out like I did

and say there's a liberal bias in the news, they automatically think you're a right-wing screwball, and they reject what you say, and they go the other way. Just as Biden went the other way on the border because Trump said there are too many illegals coming into the border. Biden went the other way. I think if you say there's a liberal bias in news, no matter how reasonably you say it, and I hope I said it reasonably, they will take, they will just circle the wagons, put up a brick wall and say, we're not listening to him. He's a conservative.

As if being a conservative is tantamount to being a racist, a misogynist. Right, in their mind. But it's more about believing what they want to believe. One of my themes here is that you can't persuade some people about anything, no matter how many facts you have, because they believe what they want to believe. That's it.

And that's where these CEOs are. Because when you have a network, NBC is a great example. And that NBC network, that's huge. I mean, that goes across, they got cable, Comcast, they got network, they got everything. There isn't one, not one even moderate conservative. Hey, Mike Baker here, host of the President's Daily Brief podcast. conservative. with excellent guests, including national security insiders and foreign policy experts. Check us out on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Also, on our YouTube channel, at Presidents Daily Brief.

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Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. That has got any cache on the network. Not one. That is by design. It's a culture. And then the other thing is when PBS and NPR got denied their funding, thank God, by the way, I don't want my money going into those operations. Both of the CEOs go, oh, we're not, we're not liberal. into those operations. Both of the CEOs go, oh, we're not we're not liberal. No, no, that's hold on. Hold on. That's the key point. That's the key point. It's crazy. I don't think I don't think they're lying. I think they're they're delusional. I think they're lying. You'd have to you. You could not say that'd be like me saying I'm not Irish. No, no, that's not Irish. No, no, there's a difference. I'm not Irish. No, no, I'm Scandinavian. Look, you couldn't run an operation. The night before

frontline runs an hour and 20 minute documentary and this is their big doc unit. The other CEO's got to be aware of it. Okay. An hour and 20 minutes that Trump is his fascist dictator, they use three pro-Trump people in an hour and 20 minutes and 20 anti-Trump. And you're going to say to the public, we're not biased? I think the problem is this, Bill. They think they can spot a conservative 100,000 miles away. The conservative could be hiding behind a brick wall and they'll spot the conservative. But they think, trust me on this, I witnessed this at CBS News, they think they're not liberal. They think they're reasonable. They think they're moderate. Noble. Noble is the word you're looking for.

Noble. I'll add that to my list. That's the top word. They feel they're noble. So all of the decisions they make to shut out any kind of traditional conservative voice is built on those are bad people, my side of good people, and that's what we're going to do. Last word. Well, you're absolutely right about that. You could be this much to the right of center in a newsroom. And by the way, you'd have a tough time finding anybody even this much to the right of center at the

New York Times or CBS News. And they'll spot you as if you had two heads. But you could be this much to the left of center. And they don't notice it. It's just you blend in. You blend in. Right. All right. Bernie Bernie Goldberg check his website Bernard Goldberg one word calm Bernie good to see you enjoy the summer appreciate very much You're listening to the no spin news weekend edition Story I am interested in is the saga of Chris Landry a New New Hampshireite but apparently a Canadian citizen. He took a vacation with his three children. He's got two others, five altogether. Lives in Peterborough, New Hampshire.

I know it well. He goes, drives up, and he tries to get back and they won't let him back in the country. The border patrol will not let Landry back because he has a pot beef long, long time ago. And the law is if you got some kind of criminal thing on your sheet, you're not coming in, all of that. Well, for humanitarian purposes, they did let his three children go back to New Hampshire, but come on. Come on. Now, I talked to Tom Holman about it and I'm hoping that you know we get the humanitarian thing going on but in the meantime I booked a smart guy honest guy it's a former governor in New Hampshire Chris the new no he joins us now from new fields in the live free or die state so can we get this guy back to

his house in Peterborough you think? I don't think I unfortunately I don't think it's going to happen it should happen. He's stuck in Mexico as you brought up there's a an issue there was a misdemeanor that happened and he was a green card holder that's technically a violation so you have to have a hearing and it was just never followed through on so when he tried to come back recently this administration is actually adhering to the law and they're saying, look, no exceptions.

You have a hearing. I think the biggest thing that concerns me about this is, look, I'm a huge believer of the remain in Mexico policy, which the Biden administration got rid of and allowed millions upon millions of people to flood across the border, get scheduled for a hearing that they probably will never show up at and stay here. This is a fundamentally different issue, right?

This is an individual who has been living here for years, has family here. I'm not saying he shouldn't have his hearing, but that hopefully will happen in the next 30-60 days. Just let him come home and be with his family. Yeah, I mean, I have to hear it. Look, but they didn't revoke his green card, Governor. Right. See, that's the that's the thing. If you if he commits a crime and it wasn't a felony and you want to boot him back to Canada, you got to revoke the green card

and get him out of here. You can't let him live there. And then he has no idea that he's not going to be able to get back. I understand. And I agree with you. You've got to have these rules. But then you have to have, as I've said, a way to do humanitarian stuff. Now we contacted Senator Hassan, you know her, right?

The Democrats. Yes, I know Senator Hassan very well, yeah. And her, I don't wanna quote Hunter Biden, but her people basically said to me, F you, O'Reilly, we're not even gonna return your calls. And we wanted to work with her because I have a pipeline to Tom Homan.

I can get him on a phone. I wanna get him on a phone. And then she said, F you to me. That makes sense. And then has has run around your state saying, oh, I wanna get the guy back. I don't think she wants to get the guy back. I don't think she wants to get the guy back. I don't think she cares.

Am I wrong? Yeah, no, look, situations like this require the federal delegation to step up, right, whether it's your congressmen, your senators, and that's why, as tough as we might be on each other politically, you don't burn bridges, right? And I don't want to speak directly to the relationship between Tom and Holman and Senator Hassan, but my guess, they're not sending each other Christmas cards, right? So you got to make sure that those relationships are always there. Anybody who wants to help, she should be talking to them. That's right. Constituents have to come first. Constituents come first.

So this is not a partisan issue. By the way, this would be a great political win. Yeah. This would be a kid issue. This is a kid issue. This is a childish, where's daddy? Right. And she's giving me the middle finger? I mean come on. I mean that's ridiculous. Now I want to talk to you about- So I don't think this is-

Go ahead, go ahead. Oh, I was just, let me just add one more thing. I don't think this is the only case of the country. I think you have dozens, if not hundreds of potential cases very similar to this all across the country that maybe don't get the headlines. And my hope is this, that the administration says, look, we have an awesome opportunity, Republicans, with the Trump administration

working with Republicans to craft an immigration bill that is done a smart, conservative, America first way that hopefully gets passed maybe next spring. It would be a huge political win. They'd be able to say, we shut down the border, we kept the criminals away. And in situations like this, we allowed for that humanitarian common sense approach

to say, look, when you have situations like this, obviously someone can come be with their family, we'll hold the hearing. You don't have to go all the way back to your home country every time if you've been here for a certain amount of time. There's just common sense things that they could do. Remember, Congress hasn't passed an immigration bill in 25, 30 years. To do that would be an absolute

home run and I'm hoping they grab the opportunity. Nothing's going to happen to necessarily help this individual, Mr. Landry, in the short term, unfortunately, but definitely could be a big win, not just for politically, but for the whole country to move forward on this immigration issue the right way in short order. All right. Let's hope you're wrong on that and let's hope that Homan and others get them back to Peterborough. Democratic party is in disarray according to all the polls. Are you sure? I didn't notice. I'm pretty certain about that. But I'm not seeing a real problem in solving strategy on the part of Republicans.

Now, Trump, he has been more active than any other president but FDR, as you know, I write the history books. FDR had to because it was Great Depression, he walked in, he had to, it was Great Depression. He walked in, he had to. It was a catastrophe. But Trump has engaged the first six months, more problems than Biden did in four years.

Biden wasn't very interested in solving problems. But I'm sensing in a Republican party, a split now between the MAGA people and the people who are not MAGA. Do you sense that? Well, yeah, and that's obviously being exemplified with Epstein and the Epstein issue is not going to go away because it's bigger than the Epstein issue.

It's not about Jeffrey Epstein. It's about the idea that folks at the top and the wealthy and the powerful will always have somebody on either party or both parties at the same time protecting them from, you know, nefarious. So one way or the other, I think it was good that the Trump, that Trump asked the federal courts to unseal the case and the names. They probably won't do it. It's going to still fall back on the president and Pam Bondi to find a way to, you know, put the pieces back together. Because it's not going away.

You don't think the judge in DC is going to release the grand jury transcripts? No, I don't think so. He's going to hang it around Trump's deck and say, this was your campaign promise, you handle it. If you want to do it, you can do it. My guess is there is a way to do it. But this is kind of the big splinter, if you will, that's creating a bit of a chasm. I think it can be healed. I think it can be brought together. But I would just tell them, don't keep glossing over it.

It's gonna keep coming back from your own folks. And again, to your initial point. In the midterms, I don't think it's gonna be big. I think the economy is gonna really be the big driver in the midterms in 26. And Mamdani. I mean, I just got the Mamdani story that wokeism is getting amplified, not quelled. And what does that mean?

That the Democrat dodeh base is. But there here's a man, Donnie. It's going to come back in and support that kind of nonsense. Yeah, I'm right in the middle of that. I don't think man,ana is going to win myself, but the prevailing wisdom in New Hampshire and every place else is New York's getting what it deserves. I'm Piers Morgan, the host of the Piers Morgan Uncensored podcast. We do big interviews and we do big debates about whatever's getting people talking.

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That's what the prevailing wisdom is. There's not a lot of sympathy outside of the boroughs for this city. And it's the same thing in San Francisco, in Chicago, in LA, the folks are going, hey, you vote for these loons, that's what you deserve. Am I wrong? It's without a doubt, but I'll say this, Mom, Donnie is so bad, I don't wish him on my worst of political enemies. I mean, New York is still is too important

to unleash that kind of nonsense. And it is absolutely crazy. You can make an argument that a lot of Democrats have policies that'll shift the city this way or shift the city that way. This would fundamentally change the city of New York if this guy got what he wanted. He's that bad and that naive and that much of a fool.

The Republicans can carry some of that and use some of that to their advantage into 26. But believe me, as soon as the 26 midterms are done, you're going to have five or six governors that want to be president stand up in leadership roles on the Democrat side. Whitmer, Shapiro, God bless Gavin Newsom. I hope we get to run against someone like Gavin Newsom. More out of Maryland, folks that have worked in bipartisan ways, and they're gonna take the mantle of the Democrat Party, provide some leadership and structure.

So my message in saying that is Republicans can't wait. Do not wait for the Democrats to never get up off the mat. They're going to get up and we have to be organized. We have to build on the momentum that we have and take nothing for granted politically. How about you? Would you challenge JD Vance if he decides to go as a more moderate guy? I'm not interested in running in 28. Yeah, look, as kind of, you know, we have a lot of fun here

in New Hampshire managing the first of the nation primary. I want a lot of great candidates on the Republican side to come up here and be part of, I think, a good message and a good field. But no, probably not for me. Okay, Governor, we appreciate it very much. Stay on this case about the Peterborough guy. Let's get him back to his children. I think that's, I think every fair-minded American wants that to happen.

And if you don't, I want you to write me and tell me why. Governor, thanks very much. We really appreciate it. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. All right, Epstein update. We got a report from CNN that President Trump hung up on a reporter when he asked him about Epstein. I think that's probably accurate. Trump didn't want to answer any more questions about Epstein, and he shouldn't until the grand jury transcripts come out or some hard news is developed.

If I were Trump, I wouldn't answer any questions. I'd say, look, we're investigating it, which the Justice Department is. They sent down an assistant attorney general to interview this Maxwell woman who's independent entry. What? May I go in? Five chum of gold? I'm not gonna do that. So I'm not mad about that. And the court ruling about the grand jury testimony is now being deliberated.

There are two judges involved here, both in DC, Richard Berman and Paul Engelmeier. Berman appointed by Clinton, Engelmeier appointed by Obama, so they're liberal judges. They have asked the federal government to give them more information about why they should make the grand jury transcripts public. They know why. They're covering their butts. By August 5th, they have to have all the information. Now, I don't know who would be objecting to this. I don't think anybody is. If there is, I need to report on it, but I don't know of anybody. I think it's going to come out, but we'll know by August 5th.

If the grand jury testimony does come out, then we'll get a clearer view of what Epstein himself did and what he said and who he hung around with. Now, there is a report from a tabloid paper that Bill Clinton also sent Epstein a birthday card on his 50th. And again, this was three years before there was any kind of criminal exposure. But you'll never hear that on the network news, will you? No, you won't.

All right, joining us now is one of our favorite guests. He's in South Dakota where he is rehearsing to be Wild Bill Hickok. His name is Brett Tallman. Check the beard out on Tallman. And he's a former US attorney for Utah. He's the head of the Tallman Group now. I know it's the federal justice department

as well as anybody does. Okay, so this is a busy day for the feds. And I wanna run it down very methodically with you. The Epstein situation overall, do you have any thoughts on it? Yeah, I think we're going to be underwhelmed if they do release the transcript. It's my prediction that even the grand jury transcript is going to be singularly focused along the lines of what the charges were.

And the charges were very, very centered on Epstein's conduct and Galen Maxwell and the, you know, individuals that he, that he assaulted. And I think that's going to be the bulk of what that grand jury transcript is going to give us. And I think as a result, I don't think there's going to be much satisfaction if they are released. All right. So you don't have to expect any revelation, but surely in the indictment presented to the grand jurors and the evidence, if there were other people involved, those names would

be front and center, right? You would, you know, Bill, I've scratched my head at this because if you were doing the investigation properly, you would have included all the other John Doe's and you would have named them. You would have named them and revealed them. And his, there wasn't a defense lawyer there. The government just presented a case,

but if they want to do a conspiracy case, there's got to be other people. Do you expect these two judges to put it out? I don't know if there's any resistance to putting it out. Do you expect them to put it out? You know, it's a great question. They could hang it on a technicality if they don't feel like the government has met the burden of the interest, the public interest in it.

But I can't imagine. How could that possibly be? Everybody's, you know, trying to tie it in as public interest is through the roof. How could they possibly say that? Wouldn't it be laughed off the bench? I think they would. And I think it would do more harm than good.

Let it out. Let the people see it. And, you, and let us get past and beyond it. Okay, let's get to Brennan and the Tulsi Gabbard drop declassification. Do you agree with me that John Brennan's in trouble? I do agree, I do agree. I think John Brennan, especially if you look at what was released today, the additional

documents that were released, Brennan had direct involvement in the conspiracy and in the decision making to put out, I mean look at what we know, he put out not just a bad report, he fabricated the support that would be necessary in order to get others on board. I would say, Bill, I also would include, though, a couple of things that we learned today that may be trouble for Clapper and may be trouble for Jim Comey. It was the FBI, we now know, that insisted on the Steele dossier being included as support for the

ICA. That was on the FBI. But what if Comey didn't know that the Russian collusion stuff was bogus? That's why I like your idea. Brennan knew, but what if Comey didn't know? As I said, there's not a lot of back and forth between the CIA and FBI. I agree. And that's why I think your point is one I've tried to make, which is open a grander investigation, then issue your subpoenas to Comey and to others

where you're not sure or you're on the fence on or you don't know what they knew when they knew it and force them to testify and force them to actually answer the tough questions and find out, you know, what happened. And I don't think they can get that without a grand jury subpoena and requiring them to appear in front of the court. So that you would bring them before a grand jury

and the Justice Department would then ask them specific questions about their participation. And if those questions were not answered in an effective way by them, then they could be indicted, right? That's correct. Then you can bring that 1001 charge. Would you call Senator Schiff in? I would. Yes, absolutely. I think you're the first one I've heard say this, but right now I would be focusing on Schiff because he has told so many lies and he's going to have a real hard time when he's under oath. Yeah. So that should be top priority. Yeah, he's the guy that said, oh, I have different proof. I'm going to show it, of course,

he never did. Okay, so that's the pathway to getting holding people accountable who may have, and we want to emphasize, and Tom is on board with this, that we're not convicting these people. I mean, we're giving you the evidence that's been presented today by declassification. They're entitled to due process and they're entitled to have a lawyer. Although when you do present in front of a grand jury, as you have many times, Brett, you don't get a defense lawyer defending you. You can't take the fifth, right? You do not get your lawyer.

What's interesting is they can take the fifth in the grand jury and if they do take the fifth in the grand jury, then the Department of Justice can force them, through giving them limited immunity, can force them to actually testify. So it's a very limited, you know, use of the Fifth Amendment, depending on what the Department of Justice does. Right, okay, the immunity factor is interesting. All right. Okay, so the big three would be Brennan, I guess Comey and Schiff. Now, Clapper is not mentioned in the drop today

by Tulsi Gabbard, is he? There's a, what happens is Clapper actually adds a statement vouching for the veracity of the support for the ICA. And that's an interesting thing to me. All right, so he just said he thinks it was true. And he was the director of national intelligence. He hold, he held the same position that Gabbard holds now. That's right.

Okay. All right. I would at least question him. I would at least question him and find out what he did. No, there's no downside. What he did know. You know, why did you come to that conclusion? Who told you that? Did you see documents?

Did you know about these phony documents? The documents that were unsubstantiated? All those questions you'd be asked. Would you do me a favor and just follow this for us? Because I'm not smart enough to do it all by myself. So, I really appreciate it. I will follow it closely. Yeah, this is big.

Can't have elections subverted. You just can't. All right, let's get on to sanctuary cities. Now in New York, terrible thing happened over the weekend. I'm sure you know about it. There was an ICE agent, border patrol guy, shot in the face, two muggers, zipped up to him, demanded they shot him. And then he shot one of them, or the cops did and whatever. And those muggers are migrant criminals who had been charged and released

at least four times each by New York authorities. And they did not tell ICE that they had them in custody. What can the federal government do to New York City in this case? Well, immediately the Department of Justice can file for injunctive relief, meaning they file an action to enjoin them from taking some of the, you know, the conduct that they are, which is, which is in essence, they're aiding and abetting or assisting in

the harboring of fugitives. Now, they can file the injunction because I think it puts everyone on notice that the feds are not going to mess around. The other thing is- Now, when you say file an injunction, most people, including me, don't really understand what that entails. So they... They can, in essence, invalidate the rules that the city has passed, making it a sanctuary

city, allowing it to operate under the guise of law by arguing that the rules they've passed violate the Supremacy Clause, for example, and other laws. Okay, that hasn't been done after all of this time? No. Oh my God. Now say they do that and they invalidate the sanctuary city law in New York and other cities, and the mayors and the police chiefs still don't uphold the law.

Can they arrest the mayors and the police chiefs still don't uphold the law. Can they arrest the mayors and the police chiefs? And they can and they should be arrested. And it should happen swiftly and unapologetically. Yeah. All right. If you don't do it, others will be in the following suit. And that falls under Pam Bondi. Now, she's got to start to take action against these sanctuary places. Now she's got to start to take action against these sanctuary places.

Finally, what's your opinion of Patel and Bongino and the FBI? I mean, I'm hearing very mixed things about these guys, that they're political appointees above all. They're not real crime fighters. What do you think? I know Cash Patel, and I have a lot of respect for him. I don't know Dan as well. I know he had served honorably, and there's many that speak highly. But I will tell you, the one thing that I gauge, you know, I like to gauge the approval

or the performance of these folks in these positions, I have a lot of friends in the FBI, and I ask them, you know, what's your impression? What are the thoughts? What are people saying? And what's fascinating about Cash Patel at the helm is there's a sense that the agents on the ground feel like someone has their back. And there's also a sense that they're pushing the FBI back towards violent crime and investigating that. And if those two things are accurate, then I think they've improved the situation and I'm more optimistic. The morale is up.

Yeah, I have friends in the Bureau as well. And the morale is up and they dumped a whole bunch of political people out of Washington and they transferred them to Tulsa and Butte. They punish people who they feel are quote unquote suspects. Suspect, not suspects for a crime, suspect. All right, Brad, very nice of you to help us during your summer vacation. And you're gonna be our go-to guy

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