Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - July 27, 2024

Episode Date: July 27, 2024

Listen to this week's No Spin News interviews with professor and pollster Dr. Charles Franklin, conservative activist Jon Schweppe and Ryan Girdusky. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Hi, J.D. Vance, I don't know him, as I said. Watching him closely now. He gave his speech today in Middletown High School in Ohio, that's his alma mater. And I want to know something about him. So I looked around for a guest who knows Mr. Vance, Senator Vance very well. And we got him. All right. Ryan Gerdeski joins us now for him. from Baton Rouge Louisiana, Louisiana. He's a founder of the 1776 project. That's a political action committee. And he has advised.

He advised the senator and knows him pretty well. Okay, JD Vance, were you surprised that Trump picked him, number one? No, I wasn't. I knew that JD was always in the running for quite some time. There was a real campaign on behalf of many people to support Senator Vance, and I thought that he would have been the best person. You know, he worked really hard for the president. He raised a lot of money.

He got a lot of people in Silicon Valley to support him, and I thought that he would have been a very good pick for Trump to campaign in the Rust Belt. Okay. I am dubious about Senator Vance's foreign policy expertise. As he's made about Ukraine, seem to be naive. to me, not historically based. He doesn't want to get involved and not at all. And that would allow Putin to do what Putin wants to do.

Trump hasn't said much about Ukraine, but I don't think he would be let Putin want, do what he wants to do. So am I wrong about Vance's vision with Ukraine? You know, I think what Senator Vance has said is that there is no win in the picture. What does victory look like for Ukraine? But that's a cliche.

That's a cliche. And you know it because you're a smart guy, Ryan. No, it's a real question. What's the win? It's not a real question. Because the facts on the ground, as they say, that's another cliche, are that Putin is bleeding white. Bleeding white. He's got 300,000 casualties.

He's got an economy and recession. He's got social unrest inside of Russia. All of which, we're not. present before he invaded. So the strategy is Reagan-esque. Ronald Reagan spent an enormous amount of money to bankrupt the Soviet Union. It happened. The Soviet Union collapsed. This is the same strategy. You bleed Putin. You punish Putin. Because if you don't, Putin's going to do what he did in Georgia, do what he did in Crimea, do what he's doing in the far eastern Soviet satellites. you let them get away with it, you unleash Putin.

So what happens if you create? Here's my question. I don't want to debate policy with you. I want to, because this is a good thing. Okay. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold.

That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver. Through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold, and you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax advantage, gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401K, tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered thousands of five-star reviews and an A-plus from the Better Business Bureau, You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-55-7576 or text bill to 99-88-99. Again, that's 866-3-2-6-5576-56-5576 or text bill to 9988-99.

Hey, I'm Caitlin Becker, the host of the New York Postcast, and I've got exactly what you need to start your weekdays. I'll bring you the stories that matter, plus the news people actually talk about, the juicy details in the worlds of politics, business, pop culture, and everything in between. It's what you want from the New York Post wrapped up in one snappy show. Ask your smart speaker to play the NY Postcast podcast. Listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't believe that Senator Vance understands that, what I just said. Am I wrong?

I think that Senator Vance does understand that. I think the bigger problem is what happens when Ukraine loses almost half of their youth population, which is what they're at right now. What people flee the- What happens to it? What happens to it is either Putin runs the show in the country or he doesn't. Right, but it doesn't look like Putin is going to get there. And Vance is not saying Ukraine should surrender.

He's saying people should come to some kind of peace accord. we should have some kind of peace negotiation at this point. But Putin doesn't want to even get to the table. The Pope went and asked him to go. And when you say everybody would want, and that's what Trump's going to do, by the way. If he's elected, Trump's going to set up some kind of peace talks with Putin. Putin will cooperate. And they'll probably carve off a little bit of Ukraine and give it to Putin. But that stops Putin. If Vance and Tulsi Gabbard and all of the other isolationists, they've undermined Ukraine. They have been going to the American people saying this is not worth it. It's not worth the fight.

Well, Vance is not an isolationist. He is supported Israel, for example, unwaveringly. But what he has sat there and said is because Joe Biden is a weak leader, Vladimir Putin does not respect him. Vladimir Putin would respect Donald Trump and would be willing to go to a negotiating table. And the strategy should always be, how do we exude strength so people negotiate peace? All right. Well, I agree with that statement, but I'm still dubious about, if you talk to Senator Vance, I would very much like to talk with him. Would you pass that along with him? Yes, I will, 100%.

All right. So let's go to your project, 1776 project. You know that the Democrats are now throwing this, what is it, 2025 project out of the Heritage Foundation? They're trying to strangle Trump with that. Nobody cares about it. It's not going to work. Nobody even knows what it is.

But 1776 project, different. What is it? It's a super PAC. It's the only super PAC in the country dedicated to electing conservatives to school boards. and local education government bodies. So we have elected more than 250 or conservatives to school boards to fight things like a mission.

And when you say we've elected them, you give them money to run for the seat. Right. We campaign on their behalf. We spend money to sit there and send mailers, text messages, digital ads. And we've helped elected everybody from the superintendent of Oklahoma

to over 250 local school board people to local superintendents and state board of educators. We want to fight DEI and CRT, want to sit there and get phonics back in classrooms and teach real American history. And we've been very successful so far. And we have a 60% win rate so far with all our candidates. And we're looking to grow that into the next year. And I assume that the gender locker room trans stuff, you don't want any of that, right? Yes.

That goes out the window. How about the book banning? One of my books, Killing Reagan, was banned in the Florida panel. It's still banned. I can't even believe it. So how about the book banning? Are you guys on that road, too? No, we don't really talk about book banning that much.

It's not a big thing for us. What we really want is classical education. We want kids to sit there and read the classics because that will take care of itself. There are problematic books and libraries. Banning is not the go-to answer for them. I think it's a matter of changing curriculum, that we have a classic curriculum that is the education

that most people probably listen to show and yourself learn from. Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't. So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2 p.m. East Coast every day.

Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Power, politics, and the people behind the headlines. I'm Miranda Devine, New York Post columnist, and the host of the brand new podcast, Podforce One. Every week, I'll sit down for candid conversations with Washington's most powerful disruptors, lawmakers, lawmakers, and even the president of the United States. These are the leaders shaping the future of America and the world. Listen to Podforce One with me, Miranda Devine, every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast.

You don't want to miss an episode. Okay. I think that's a worthy thing. How did people get in touch with the 1776 Project? 1776 Project PAC, P-PACPACC.com. You can go on our Facebook or our social media and you can look up us up there. Ryan, it's a pleasure to talk with you. Please pass my congratulations on, Senator Vance and tell him he would have a great time,

just as you just did. I know you had a blast here. Oh, I did. Absolutely. And he'll have a swell time. So you come on in. We'll give him like 20 minutes and we'll be happy to do it. Thank you very much.

I will do. Okay. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So polling right now is in flux, fluid, because news events take a little while to seep into the public. From my mail, and I get thousands of letters, the public is about two days behind. Now, the brighter people, the people really pay attention, they're on it in a contemporary way. Boom, they got it. But the folks who are distracted by everything takes about two days.

So the polling right now is still murky. So that number that Quentinby Act pulled out, 4947, Trump over comma, probably not an accurate number at this point, in my humble opinion. Joyce out from Milwaukee, Wisconsin is Dr. Charles Franklin. He is a professor of public policy in law at Marquette Law School and the director of the Marquette Law School. poll. So am I being too harsh on a Quinebiac poll? Well, I think they're a quality pollster, but we can agree or disagree on that. The main point, though, is that those results are very much in line with what we've seen from other pollsters for some time. Trump's favorability rating has actually been rising pretty steadily

over the last year. Harris has been about where you quoted her, where the Quinnipiac poll has, that reflects being the vice president where you're kind of a reflection of the president. So one question is, as she becomes the nominee, does she see some real movement in that favorability or not? But it's quite low compared to Trump at this point. Well, the problem for Harris is that her personal popularity is way down. So she polls better against Trump than she does by herself, correct? Yes. That is good for her. One other thing that's good for her in that Quinnipiac, 11%, so they didn't know enough about her to have an opinion. Across polls, that runs from about 10 to maybe as much as 15%. Again, that's normal for a vice president to not be known by everybody. But it leaves that opening for her to introduce herself and pick up a little support. And of course, it leaves the opening for the Republicans to paint her in a negative light as well. We're going to to need a couple of weeks at least for that process to work out, though I do think we'll get

some decent polling by next weekend. I agree with you, doctor. I think that's probably when everybody's shell-shocked now, trying to process all of this stuff. It came fast and furious, and most people have to work for a living, they've got the kids yelling at them, they got vacation and they got all this stuff. So, we're going to take a little while. Now, your poll, Marquette, which is a very fine university in Wisconsin. One of the guys that helped me in my career, Tom Snyder, went to Marquette University. Your poll concentrates on Wisconsin

a very, very important state. Do you think it's going to make a difference that Biden is out and Kamala is in? I think at the margin it can make a difference in polling since the debate. So after Biden got in so much trouble, We've seen the average Trump lead to be about three points over Biden, but against Harris, Trump is up by 1.9 on average.

So she does a little better than Biden, but still trails Trump. What we haven't seen is good polling in the six battleground swing states, so I don't think we have a good picture there. But again, I think not as vice president, but as the actual candidate, we're going to need a couple of weeks at least for those good polls in the swing states to come out. There was some analysis today that said

because Vice President Harris is a woman of color, this will mobilize minority voters, black voters, who were not enthusiastic about Joe Biden, and they will come over now to the Democratic Party.

You think that analysis of any validity? I think there's some truth to that. The Biden and Harris have been campaigning in Milwaukee and in the area a lot over the last six months with substantial appeals to black voters in both the president and the vice president's appearances. Also younger voters who are put off by Biden's age.

Young voters under 30 are the most democratic, the most liberal, and the lowest job approval of Joe Biden. Harris could make some inroads with those as well as black voters. Appreciate it, Dr. to keep his posted what going on in Wisconsin. Thanks for taking a time today. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition.

All right, we wanted to get another perspective on the polling because it does become very important. I would say I agree with Dr. Franklin. That's not going to kick in for another 10 days or so, but believe me, polling this time around. People are suspicious of both candidates, generally speaking. So joining us now, from Virginia is John Schwapp.

It's a director of policy of the American Principles Project, which is a conservative 501 think tank. So he's going to come at it from that point of view. So you heard Dr. Franklin, do you agree with his assessment? Yeah, I think, you know, based on what we've seen,

and we're a super PAC too, so we spend, you know, quite a bit in these elections. You know, we anticipate that Kamala is going to get a little bit of a bump here just because you're going to see the media, entertainment, donors, everybody kind of going towards her. But ultimately, you know, when you look at it,

you know, she's got an opophile that's so long, it honestly rivals the works of Leo Tolstoy. I mean, it's pretty ridiculous. It's long. But here's why that might not matter. More and more, I see that voters are not engaged in policy. They know what the groceries cost. They know what the gasoline cost. They know what their insurance rates are. But they don't pay attention that much to, you know, the micro political stuff that you do, that your foundation does. And yeah, you got an opo file on Kamala Harris like that. If I were interviewing Kamala Harris, how do you think that would come out?

Okay. But Kamala Harris is not going to submit herself to anybody like me. Right. You're going to do exactly what Biden did stay away from any tough questioning. So the opo file, I don't know if that's going to be that effective. Well, it's all about narrative building. And, you know, the Trump campaign this time around, you've got to give them credit. They've raised a lot of money, right?

You have Elon Musk giving $45 million a month or something like that. So, you know, I think it's going to be key that they message in a way that really communicates to voters, that she's this kind of out-of-touch elite. And, you know, I would say that Trump picking J.D. Vance, you know, they're really leaning into messaging to the forgotten men and women of this country, the working class. So I think you're going to be able to create this narrative. And, you know, ultimately, it does come down to likeability too, Bill. I mean, I think, you know, she's not really somebody that I think working class people are really looking to get a beer with. And I think that's going to impact her. So we'll see they're going to try

to, you know, paint her in a way that makes her look like that. this appealing candidate. But there's a reason even Democrats didn't pick her, you know, ever get her above 3, 4% in the primary in 2020. Okay. Now, Donald Trump like ability, I mean, it went up after he was shot. The sympathy vote went up. But Donald Trump, the MAGA people, and Republicans at 2 to 90% love them. But the independents don't. And I don't see much of an attempt to win those independence over. Am I wrong? I think the campaign really is actually pretty focused on that. You saw that with the platform where, you know, they're trying to, and I actually disagree with this a little bit, but, you know, moderate on social issues, do that sort of thing.

But, you know, you look at their messaging. I think they're really focused on this economic thing and really, you know, what's gone on the last four years. You know, you saw their first ad out of the gate once we knew Kamala was the presumptive nominee. You know, they're tying her to Joe Biden and his record of failure. And I think, you know, that's what they got to do. Take advantage of the fact that Biden was polling so low and try to sink Kamala as well. Do you, you guys don't do any polling yourself, do you? We do.

We do, yeah. Is that public or internal polling? We usually go with an outside group like on message or something like that, but we publicize a lot of it. And how often do you poll? Usually right before an election cycle, we do issues and then we also do. So I would say the last poll we released may have been six or seven months ago. It's been a little bit. When's the next one coming?

Soon, hopefully. I think we're going to need to see some results. Yeah, that would be important. All right, we really appreciate it. Mr. Schwep, thank you very much. And when you get the new polling, please give us a call. We want to analyze it, okay? Thank you.

We'd love to. Thank you. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the No Spin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com. Sign up and start watching today.