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Episode Date: July 5, 2025

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Welcome to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Another ruling on Friday, Montgomery County, Maryland, parents sued in federal court saying, look, If the schools in Montgomery County are going to teach about gay stuff and they're going to promote LBGTQ stuff, then we want kids to be out of the classroom because we don't believe that on religious grounds. Okay? And again, the justices ruled 6.3. Same thing that, yeah, if you're a religious person who does not believe that the gay life.

style is accepted by your religion, your kid doesn't have to listen to that. Common sense, right? I believe. So they're not banning the lesson. They're giving the parents a right to take the kid out when that happens. Okay, so the left, of course, went nuts. Go. Right now, this looks like it affects only books with LGBTQ.

plus characters, but it very well might extend to science and evolution and all the other things that for some reason are up for debate in this day and age that are rooted in science and understanding, but it very well might upend what we think of is public education. Yeah, I'm not worried. Okay. I don't think they're going to be imposing evolution on the kids in that classroom. should be discussed, though. You know, why not? Why not discuss the biblical point of view? Say, look, there are some fundamentalist religious people who believe Adam and Eve were there. And they wish, you know, the snake was chasing them around. That's the wrong with that.

You don't say it's fact. I mean, but you know how it is. What this is all about, this really is all about, is there are many states, Maryland at the top of the list, that want to impose liberal doctrine on the students. What's what they want? Okay? I guess there are some states that want to impose conservative doctrine, maybe Louisiana because they had the Ten Commandment thing,

but the liberal states are real active in this group. All right, let's bring in a guy who's smarter than I am, and he can tell me if I'm going wrong here. His name is Michael DiMano, and he teaches at

Widener University law school, which is in Pennsylvania. First question, professor, about the judge shopping. It just seems to me that no matter what ideology you are, that you would know one judge just stopping the whole apparatus of executive orders is just blowing up the Constitution. Am I wrong? Oh, you're absolutely right. I thank you very much for having me on, Bill. It's a pleasure to be here.

But you're absolutely right in your description of the problem that having one district judge with the power to issue a universal nationwide injunction prevents other judges from getting involved in issuing opinions on the same issue. And usually the way that you get ultimate resolution of these issues is, to have a bunch of cases in the lower courts, each focused on particular plaintiffs, and if there's a disagreement with those lower courts, then the appellate courts can sort out the disagreement. But we don't just pick one district judge as part of some kind of policymaking strategy and let that judge impose an injunction on the entire country unless the Supreme Court gets involved

on some kind of emergency basis. Okay, but the three liberal judges on the Supreme Court, surely are intelligent enough to recognize the anarchy and chaos that would come if every party could judge shop on every presidential decision, right? They're not stupid. That is certainly true. Yes. And in fact, as your clip before me pointed out, Justice Kagan has already pointed out that problem Yeah, she contradicted herself.

So the only conclusion that fair-minded people can come to is that at least three members of the Supreme Court don't care about the Constitution at all. They want to use their power at the nation's highest court to advance their liberal ideology. That's the only conclusion you can come to. I think what you have is a fundamental disagreement about judicial power.

What the liberal justices see as the role of the federal courts is solving injustice or declaring what the law is. They see the courts as this kind of institution just to get involved and stop illegality whenever they see it. That's not the way the federal courts are supposed to work. And the six justices and the majority correctly pointed out Justice Jackson's flawed understanding of the Constitution in that way. courts are supposed to resolve disputes between parties who are affected by the litigation. And if it turns out that the plaintiff is right and what the government is doing is illegal or unconstitutional, then the district court should enter a remedy that solves that plaintiff's problem.

Right. I mean, the ruling was right, but what disturbs me are these three justices. That's what disturbed me. They want to dismantle the Constitution. They want to dismantle. They want to dismantle it. And let's be honest about it. They know the anarchy and chaos that would be caused by judge shopping on every single presidential executive order. They understand that. They don't care. They're almost subversive when it comes to the Constitution of the United States. Last word. I think Justice Barrett had it exactly right when she said that Justice Jackson would impose an imperial judiciary. That's the, and I think that's what you're referring to when you're saying subvert the

Constitution. You say judges are up here and everybody else has to follow what the judges say. That's not the original understanding of the Constitution. But I carry it further than that. These judges, justices, are in business to advance a liberal ideology. They're using their position for politics not to really analyze what the founding fathers had in mind. That's my point of view. Do you concur with that? I agree. I think that being an activist or what we call a result-oriented judge is just about the worst thing that you can be on the court. Right. And they got three of them.

Yeah. It seems to me that that's what was motivating them. Well, Sotomayor, I know this for a fact, Sotomayor wants out. She's tired, she doesn't feel well, but she's hanging on because she doesn't want Trump to appoint the next judge. So we'll see how that evolves. Professor, thanks very much. Happy 4th of July. We appreciate the help. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition.

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a few exceptions, 25% of all families in each state must be engaged in work activities, rising to 50 fiscal year 2002. Single parents must participate for at least 20 hours per week. The first year, increasing 30 hours per week for fiscal year 2000. Two parent families must work 35 hours per week by July 1st, 1997. Okay? So Clinton got it. Everybody got it at the time that you just can't have lazy, addicted, whatever people, gaming the system.

Now, if this bill passes, it will save about a trillion dollars, according to the Commonwealth Fund and the Congressional Budget Office, a trillion dollars over 10 years. That will be saved by the federal government, obviously, with a $36 trillion debt, we need that. Now, is it going to add to that debt over the same period of time? The trillion dollar savings is just Medicaid, just Medicaid. The other spending will increase the debt.

If President Trump doesn't do what I am suggesting, and that is, okay, sell oil from federal land like ANWR and use all of the profits to pay down the debt and use all of the terror profits. One billion dollars a day is coming into the U.S. Treasury from around the world. All of that money should be earmarked to bring the national debt down. Next time I see the president or talk to him, I am going to mention that. I hope he will get behind it because that can bring it down. All right. So, summing up, not one, as I predicted last night on News Nation, Democrat voted for it

because if they did vote for the bill, they'd be drummed out of the party. Okay? And if the Republicans in the House vote against it, they're going to be drummed out of the Republican party. That's the way this system is now. It is vicious. This is D-Day for Donald Trump. He must get this passed.

So if you want to keep him as president, all right, an effective president, a president that can get legislature done, okay, then you have to vote for the bill. There's no other choice, and that's the memo. All right, join us now, and Dr. John Goodman from Dallas, Texas. He is a senior fellow with the Independent Institute of Nonprofit, Nonpartisan, Public Policy Research Group. So first of all, doctor, am I making any mistakes in my analysis? No, I don't think you are. I think what this bill reflects is that Donald Trump is probably the best marketer in politics today, and it's very obvious that he wants to connect with blue-collar families.

And when you hear him talk about it, he says no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. That's the way he describes it. In fact, none of those taxes are really going away. what's happening here is there is a small tax break for people with moderate incomes, and it goes away in four years. But it's a terrific way for Donald Trump and the Republican Party to connect with people who used to vote for Democrats. Okay, but $25,000 on tips deductible,

that's significant for the service industry people. It's absolutely significant. And it goes away in four years. Let's hope that it doesn't go. away because we those people need all the assistance they can get but overall the American public and I'm going to do this right after we wrap this interview with you has a negative view of this bill because they haven't been told the truth about it and you know I got millions of you as doctor all over the world

but it's you know there are 365 million people in America right now counting illegal aliens and they hear this stuff they're not paying attention many of them. And oh, they're going to cut Medicaid and Medicaid. They're going to cut this. They're going to cut this. This is a concerted propagandistic effort to undermine what Trump wants to do. Am I wrong? Now, you're right. The public is being lied to about how the income tax system actually works, and Republicans have done a very, very poor job of defending themselves. Now, the way our system works is the rich are not getting away. with not paying their fair share.

In fact, the rich pay almost all the income taxes. The bottom half of the income distribution pays 2 or 3% of all income taxes. They pay almost nothing. The top 1% are paying 40% of income taxes, top 10%, pay 75%. So we have the most progressive tax system in the whole world, far more progressive than any European country.

And why is it that way? Because of Republican tax legislation. Every time the Republicans have legislated, they've thrown more and more people off the tax rolls. And Republicans never brag about it. They never go out and say, look, we've reason half the people aren't paying the income taxes because of us. You never hear them say that. So they have shifted the burden to the rich, and they don't want to tell you that, and the Democrats lie about it. Okay, but the Republican, their basic philosophy is lower taxes.

and the wealthy, because we're in a transitional age into high-tech, all right, there are plenty more billionaires than they used to be, just as there were at the 20th century. You know that, turn of the 20th century with Rockefeller and Morgan and all those people with these big colossus corporations taking over the infrastructure of the United States. I write about it confronting evil, which is beyond September. I mean, some of these people, they call them the robber barons,

were as evil as they come because there was a transition and they got fabulously wealthy. The same transition is taking place or has been for the last 20 years into technology. And the founders of Apple and all these people, they make gazillions of dollars because that's happening. But the Republican Party doesn't want to punish them. He doesn't want to confiscate what they have earned or in some cases inherited. Am I wrong on that? Alkaline with antioxidant. Whoa, that's refreshing. And a 9.5 plus pH for every way you move.

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See label on door jam for carrying capacity of a specific vehicle, always properly secure cargo. Well, a little bit. Again, what the Republican Party has done is shift the burden of taxation to the upper part of the income distribution. Which would be that? Democrats didn't do that. Republicans did that. And through every single time they legislated,

they threw more people off the tax rolls and shifted the burden. Well, let's take the 2017 first Trump tax cut. I mean, what did it do? After it passed, we were told that it was a tax cut for billionaires, right? And within a few years, we find out that the top 1% have a greater share of the tax burden than they did before the bill was passed. So that's pretty much the way tax law has gone. and Republicans don't talk about it.

All right, because most of the voters are not wealthy people, and both parties want those voters support. And it's not only that they don't pay any taxes, doctor, as you well know, federal government sends millions of Americans money. If they don't reach a certain threshold of income, they get checks in a form of tax credits. And so you're right, but I think that they, philosophy is Democrats tax up to here at the government run the economy, socialism, Republicans

lower the taxes as much as possible, even for the big corporations, and let capitalism run. That's what I think the two philosophies are. Last word. Well, that's certainly the way they talk about it. But in reality, we have a very progressive tax system. Republicans have created it, and they don't explain it very well. All right, Doc. We appreciate it very much. Thank you. Again, we'll see if this bill passes in the house. It's going to be a brawl. Pretty interesting situation. Here's a gem from the no-spin News Vault. There's a new book out, and I've been reading over the weekend. Charlie Kirk, right-wing revolution, how to beat the woke and save the West. He's not talking about the Wild West.

He's talking about the West as far as USA, Europe, this and that. And the woke stuff in the book's pretty good. I have to say, it's good research in the book. I learned some stuff. You may know, Kirk. He's the founder of Turning Point USA. He's got a radio program on Salem. He has written three other books.

and he is a committed conservative. He joins us now from Phoenix, Arizona. All right, so I'm halfway through your book. I'm not that convinced there's going to be a right-wing revolution in this country. All right? Convinced me I'm wrong. Well, I hope I'm right. I mean, part of the book, as you all know, is trying to lay the foundation that this is what is necessary.

Now, I will say though, Bill, we're starting to see a little rumblings in France, and we're seeing this across Europe, in Belgium, in the Netherlands, saw it a little bit in Argentina, El Salvador. And I want to be very clear that part of this idea of a right-wing revolution is just re-centering the country around normal and agreeable public policy positions, such as we should have a border, such as that children are off limits when it comes to medical mutilation. And so the idea of a right-wing revolution is actually re-centering back to a country of the late 80s or early 90s. Bill, it's impossible to predict.

You might be right. It might not happen. However, across the Western world, we're starting to see more and more citizens, everyday people, start to resist left-wing policies of mass migration and cheap money, albeit also inflation. And they want to try to get back to the ways,

the way things were, more orderly, more sensible, less radical, less insane. The days where we did not have to wonder if our eight-year-olds in school were going to be taught then. men could give birth. Okay.

I don't disagree with anything you just said because you're being a fact-based guy. All right. In the recent votes in the EU and Europe, the right-wing parties, they branded far right by the New York Times, but they're not really far right. Some of them are,

but most of them are just people saying, look, we've had enough. We're overrun here by migrants. They're changing everybody's way life. We're a welfare state anyway, most European countries are. We can't afford to support all of these people. So we're going to try to go into a more conservative government. Absolutely true. No doubt about it. But it's a little bit different dynamic in America. Okay. So you got Biden almost with parity in the polling with Trump.

if you look at the damage Biden has done to this country in three and a half years, it's colossal. And if you look at the polls, 70% of Americans say, going in the wrong direction. So by all of that, Biden should be down 20 points in these presidential polls, but he's not. And that's what gives me a hesitation that there might be a right-wing revolution. that's a great point bill and presidential elections are tricky where even if a president has a sub 50% approval rating sometimes they get reelected and so I want to be clear I'm not predicting a right wing revolution will happen in November I'm hoping I'm starting to see signs that it could be bubbling up however bill I will say a recent CBS poll which was the poll heard around the world showed that 62% of Americans support mass deportations

that was not the case five or ten years ago that is a new phenomenon No, on the issue set, but the dichotomy is that's Trump's position. But you got 62 saying, yeah, yeah. But you don't have Trump at 62 winning, beating Biden, who would have to get 38? See, that's the, go ahead. Get your mother-loving ears on because your big-time radio DJs got news. PayPal lets you pay for stuff in store online or overtime. tune. You can pay your own way. Don't just pay, baby. PayPal. Learn more at PayPal.com.

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And that's for better or for worse. I think it actually helps Donald Trump in certain areas where no matter, you know, what he does, they're going to stay with him. I'm a huge supporter of his. I also heard some where other people are not willing to entertain his policies. There was an, there was an interesting poll last week that came out that showed that Democrats love the idea of no taxes on tips, waiters and waitresses, people in the, uh, when they rely on tips. However, they hate the idea if they found out it was Donald Trump's

policy position. It was a fascinating poll. It was like a 50 point move. So it's a, it's a great point, Bill. And it goes to show that on the issue set, though, I think the country's more center right than we give it credit for. It's more center right when it comes on immigration, more center right when it comes on sizes, scope of government and spending. Okay. Um, the Supreme Court announced today is going to hear this genital mutilation stuff next fall where states are banning any kind of operations for Americans under the age of 18, even if the parents consent to it, there are bans. Spring court's going to hear that. I'm just going to submit to you that one of the things that is holding Donald Trump back from getting independent votes, all right,

is his obsession with the election of 2020. And you were on board with the election was a fraud. I followed you because you to me, the reason I follow Kirk, I'm talking to my audience now, he's 30 years old. He's got a lot of input coming in from the younger folks, younger Americans, all right? And so I follow what he's doing to see,

what they're doing, what they're thinking, because I want the full spectrum from 18 all the way up to death. All right. Now, I got a lot of younger viewers now because of YouTube, which shocks me, but that's why I follow Kirk. So back to the question, I think that Trump's obsession with 2020, all right, still continues to hurt him in this election. Am I wrong? So first, I'll say that there's a season for all things and when it was really a, let's just say a recent wound, I think it was helpful to talk about ways we could have secured the election better and things we could have done better in 2020. I will say though in this season we're in right now, talking about 2020 does not do us any good. So I'm in full agreement. For example, I think a trap question that might be thrown at Donald Trump, this debate will be if Jake Tapper asked Donald Trump if the 2020, do you accept the 2020 election results? And he will. How Donald Trump, Well, I think how he navigates that question is important. And there's a variety of ways he can do that. No, no, there's only one way.

There's only one way. No, it's only one way, Charlie. Only one. When Tapper asks him in it, it's a when, not an it. He looks at a camera and says, it is my opinion that the vote in 2020 was flawed. I would like to know where the $300 million that Mark Zuckerberg put into the election went. And I think those are legitimate opinions to hold. That's it.

No more. I think that's just those two points. I think that's really smart. And he has to be prepared for that because Tapper will ask that directly. and Joe Biden is going to try to pile on. And so I think we agree, Bill. I think Donald Trump's at his best when he is a forward-facing vision-casting candidate,

especially to contrast against the disaster of the Biden presidency. Okay. How should the Republican Party, and we did this earlier in the program today, handle the abortion issue, in your opinion? So I say this as someone who is resolutely pro-life. So I want to make sure everyone understands my credentials. But I also want to win elections, so I think we have to operate with prudence and put this in the hands of voters.

Let's take Arizona, for example. Here in Arizona, this is a pro-choice, pro-abortion state. I say that with a little bit of sadness because I wish it was more pro-life. So you have to find some sort of measure or mean or some sort of agreeable limit that allows you to still win elections and make progress in the pro-life direction. So for example, 70% of Americans do not think that abortion up until the point of birth, is something that we should allow. That could put the Democrats on defense. So again, I say this as someone who is pro-life, but I'll also say that if we do not approach this issue correctly

or with any sort of wisdom, then it could end up being a losing political issue for Republicans. And the failure to recognize that or acknowledge that is not living in the current American political reality. All right. Charlie Kirk, the book is Right Wing Revolution, how to beat the woke and save the West. Now, if I send you a not-woke mug from Bill O'Reilly.com, are you going to use that?

I will happily receive it. I will, absolutely. All right, because this is our best-selling mug ever. It's sweeping the country. And since you wrote a book about beating the woke, you ought to have one. And we're going to send one to you. Appreciate it, Charlie. Good luck with the book.

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