Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - June 22, 2024

Episode Date: June 22, 2024

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Welcome to the no-spin News Weekend Edition. Involved in his campaign is a very simple question. Will America evaporate slowly or quickly if one or the other are elected, Trump or Biden? That's what both sides are saying. Okay? So if you vote for Trump, you won't have a country, quote Donald Trump. If you vote for Biden, you won't have a country. If you vote for Trump, you won't have democracy.

That's what it is. So one person is following this is, I have said he's a better columnist than I am. I have said that publicly. His name is Victor Davis Hanson. You know him. He's got a new book out called The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation. I'm reading the book. I'm in the chapter with the ASTEPs.

Because I'm a history guy, and I like all this stuff. So Professor Hanson, he teaches at Pepperdine, he's at the Hoover Institution. He's a busy guy, but he's taking time out to join us now from Palo Alto, California. So number one about the book, I'm enjoying the book, but, you know, this is a hardcore history book. So people should know that. It's not contemporized. But the message certainly is, because a lot of people feel that the USA is in steep decline on a number of fronts. Do you believe that? I do, and I didn't write the book for that purpose, but once I looked at

these examples of Thebes and Carthage, and as you said, the Aztecs at Tenochiton and, of course, Constantinople, there were certain themes, Bill, that once powerful states or nations were in decline and yet in denial, they felt that they were as robust as ever, that the enemy wouldn't dare attack them, that there would be allies on the horizon to save them. that even if they were attacked, the nature of their enemies were not, they weren't existential. They didn't want to destroy them. Who would want to do that? And yet, so when I finished, I wrote an epilogue and looked at various places around the world

where there are bad actors like that, but more importantly, there are once powerful nations that don't reinvest in what once made them powerful, and yet they're in complete denial about their vulnerability. And I think the United States fits that pretty well. But I think a lot of the voters are worried. I mean, my mail reflects that. I get thousands of letters. And it reflects that if Joe Biden, and I believe this myself,

because I ought to be up front when I do my commentary, I believe another four years of Joe Biden will damage this country almost beyond repair. And I have a book coming out in September call confronting the presidents where we evaluate every president, all 45, and where they help or hurt the country. Joe Biden has hurt the country so dramatically in three and a half years. He ranks up as his second worst president

next to James Buchanan, the guy who totally booted the Civil War, okay? So another four years of a Biden who cannot even function on a day-to-day basis. And if he dies or incapacitated, Kamala Harris, because she's not gonna kick her off the ticket, all right? Then I'm saying to myself, it's over because there are no restraints then.

Biden's got some restraints now, which is why he issued the executive order on the border. He'll have none that. And so we'll have every front. It'll be socialism. That's what I think is in play here. Socialism. Do you see it the same way?

Yeah, I do. What's new about Biden is that the border was always porous, but it was never non-existent. He's destroyed it as a concept. And we always had high crime spikes, but we never had a period where crime was legitimized is sort of a critical legal theory or critical race theory that the oppressed had certain rights to take what wasn't theirs, for example. We've never borrowed a trillion dollars every 90 days.

I mean, if he's going to be elected at that rate, we could borrow another 16 trillion. There is limits to that. And when we have all of this natural wealth and energy and food and people, and we're not utilizing it or we're utilizing it in a destructive way, I'm very worried about the military, 45,000 recruits short. And when you look at the people who are not joining Bill, they're the very demographic that died at double their numbers in Afghanistan and Iraq in the demographic. So they have done something, and I don't want to get into it,

to alienate white males from the interior or the rural areas of America that traditionally were willing to go to god-awful places to serve their country. And so there's a lot of things going on that are very, very dangerous. and I agree entirely. And you know this as well as anybody. You saw the parallel with the Roman Empire that once the Romans could not recruit among Roman citizens

and had to hire mercenaries, that was the beginning of the end of the empire. And now we don't have enough people to fill our military roles, whereas China and Russia are accelerating their military presence to a degree probably never be foreseen in their history.

Now, Joe Biden, if you trace his past in the Senate, he was never a left-wing bomb thrower. Now he is. What happened? Well, I think there was a Faustian bargain made in that 2020 primary race where they had all of these extremists, but did you, Corey, Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, etc. and they were all felt to be not competitive against Trump. And so there was an idea that they were all, remember, almost in unison they dropped out. And the deal was that they knew that Joe Biden was cognitively challenged then,

but he had a reputation of old Joe Biden from Scranton, and he would provide the proper veneer. But in exchange in that Faustian bargain, he was to outsource major appointments and even policy directives to the team that had been around Brock. Obama. And I think that's what we got. He was supposed to be old Joe Biden from Scranton, and then we've got Susan Rice, the Obama's, Eric Holder, and the foreign policy, Ben Rhodes, and all of those people who I think are directing the policy of the Biden administration. I think the bombers feel that they were the frontier, they were the pathbreakers into socialism, and

they were restricted because they were the first people to be that radical. and now they feel a tinge of regret that we could have done so much more had we been more bold, but now Biden is this empty vessel that offers us an opportunity, and that's what they're doing. All right. That's a good explanation, as they've heard. But remember, under eight years of Obama, he wasn't a bomb throwing far-left guy. He deported more migrants than any other president in history. He didn't open the border. He was weak in foreign policy. There's no question about that. And then his economics, you know, the Obamacare, you can make an argument on both sides. But it wasn't, you know, a punitive time for the American worker.

Now it is. Do you believe Biden made that Faustian bargain, as you put it, consciously? Or he's just so far out there. He just doesn't know from day to day what's happening. And he just does as he's instructed to do. Which is it? I think it's the latter. I think his wife is playing sort of the Edith Wilson role

and that she's got gatekeepers around him, but he was not aware of, I don't think he's aware of all at all of what he's saying or doing. I think you're right. Jill Biden is a villain, I think. But in Afghanistan, no cognizant president would have done what he did. Barack Obama never would have done that.

Never. In a million years, would he have abandoned all of those weapons put Americans and Afghans who helped the USA at risk and turned over government to the Taliban. Barack Obama would not have done that. No, but there were people around Brock. He did. And remember that as we left, we had the pride flag flying from the embassy.

We had a gender studies program at the University of Kabul. We had George Floyd Murals. So we were culturally imperialistic, but we didn't have the military heft. So we suffered from both being. culturally arrogant and then militarily weak. But no, that was from the people around Joe Biden. And he just signed off onto it. We've got a lot of radical people around him.

I do think that Obama was very transparent when he once said, you regret you didn't do things in which you ever liked a third term. And he famously said, well, you know, if I could just stay in my basement and phone it in without having to do the work, but I could phone in my directives,

that would be an ideal third term. I think that was really something that we should have taken seriously, because I think that's where we are now. Yeah, but if he wants a third term, all he's got to do is put Michelle out there, and Michelle would probably win. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets, and meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver. through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this.

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So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2 p.m. East Coast every day. Make sure you tune in. You can find us at Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Now, on the other side, democracy on the ticket, Trump is a fascist, everybody's, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to be put in a camp. This is cartoonish stuff, but do you think that some of the folks buy it? I think they will. I think when you look at these conspiracies theories or whatever they are, we forget they work. I mean, Donald Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 as a result, probably of collusion. And none of those people were ever prosecuted that hired Christopher Steele, Perkins Co., GPS, D&C.

That was illegal to hire a foreign national and then create that dossier. And the laptop people, when Anthony Blinken rounded up those 51 authorities and that empowered Joe Biden in the debate, and I think that had some bearing on the election, none of those people were ever have ever apologized. They've never admitted they lie to the American people. Anthony Blinken suffered no downside. So when I look at these conspiracy theories, they all seem to have had some utility, and it suggests to me that whether you call them October surprises or whatever,

we're going to see a lot of them. You mentioned one, and I think there's going to be this narrative that Donald Trump is going to end democracy, he's going to put people in camps. They're going to have all sorts of frenzy. I think another one is going to be that actually he's more debilitated than Joe Biden. He slurs his word.

People in private meetings say that he's no more. Trump does too much media. That's not going to go. I'd like to bring you back sometime this summer just to talk about your state, California. Right now, there's a movement in California, as you well know, to block referendums that are on the ballot, okay, on crime and taxes. the far, far left legislature in Sacramento and Governor Newsom, they want to stop the people from voting on crime safety and lower taxes. It's an unbelievable story that goes to the totalitarianism of the left, but I don't have time to do it tonight. But will you come back sometime this summer

and chat with me about it? Because you know a lot about that. Absolutely, Bill. I'll be happy to. Okay. Thank you, Professor. Really, the book is The end of everything, how wars descend into annihilation. have a absolute linkage to what we are going through here today. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Okay, so now we

learn, and this is coming from a Fox News report, but I believe it's true. There are more than 7 million backloged cases in the customs enforcement and immigration.

7 million. I mean, you can't hear seven million that's how many people biden have left have led in you can't hear all these asylum cases they'll never be heard because there's so many of them and that's what an open border does uh and then that doesn't include they say two million gotaways i think it's four because they don't really know they being ice and homeland security and mayorka's the chief of uh homeland security doesn't care They'll never admit, ever admit, all these people snuck in and they don't know where they are or who they are. Many of them are criminals.

So last night I addressed this issue in the form of terrorism. We all know that if you have an open border, terrorists are going to come into the United States. So are criminals. Murderers, drug dealers, you name it. The board is open. They're coming. Why? Because they can make money here, the criminals, and the jihadists hate us and want to kill us.

I mean, a five-year-old can figure this out. All right. So the alarm is being sounded with the eight arrests that I mentioned earlier of the Tjukis who are tied to ISIS by the FBI and ICE. You don't get more of an alarm than that is what I said with Leland Vitter. So last Wednesday, and you reported it, Eight migrants from Tajikistan were caught by the FBI and Homeland Security and linked to ISIS. They came across the southern border.

And I'll tell you one more thing, and I hope it doesn't happen. If there is a terror attack before November vote, Biden loses by a historic margin. It's through. He's done. And Ray and all the others, with the exception of Mayorkas, who's so out there, it's frightening. all the other law enforcement officials say is a good chance that's going to happen. It's a good chance that we're going to have a terror attack in America because of the open border. Power, politics and the people behind the headlines. I'm Miranda Devine, New York Post columnist and the host of the brand new podcast, Podforce One.

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Ask your smart speaker to play the NY Postcast podcast. Listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, joining us now from London, England, Mike Baker, former CIA Operator. He has starting a podcast called The President's Daily Brief on the First TV, which is one of our partners. You can watch us on the first. And Mr. Baker is starting this up. We'll get to that in a moment. I want to ask you about this terror threat because obviously this is speculation.

We can't nail anything down. But there's an article in Foreign Affairs magazine. I just read it moments before coming on the air. by Graham Allison of Harvard, a brilliant foreign policy guy, and Mike Morel, the former assistant of the CIA, who you might know, do you know Morel? I know him, we're not friends, but we were there. But you know he is, okay.

So the former assistant CIA director. And they basically say that this is the highest danger right now that the United States has ever faced on a terror attack since 9-11. And as I said, it makes perfect sense. The problem is the Biden administration is not going to sound a warning because it's their fault the border is open.

Am I wrong? No, no, I mean, there's this, you can't, there's no other way to put this, right? Just look at the numbers, right? The statistics over the past three years during Biden's tenure and the millions that have come across. Look, it's a simple time, top line issue. You can't have, and you pointed this out, you can't have national security,

you can't have public security in our cities and towns across America. If you don't know who's coming across the border, that's just common sense. And yet the Biden administration essentially has a failing grade on doing their primary number one job, which is the protection of the U.S. citizens. So this is a serious problem. And Mike Morel and Graham Allison are echoing what we've been hearing now for some time from Christopher Ray over the FBI, from the CETCOM commander, General Carrilla. It's, we have. There's no dissent. It's a hundred percent from the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and all the foreign policy experts that this is so dangerous, yet the president of the United States wouldn't even address it. So my question then becomes, how could anybody vote for a man like this?

if you hate Trump, or you think he's the worst president or the worst person in the world. Joe Biden's putting your life in danger. Yeah, he's, again, he's, yeah, he's dropped the ball. And his administration has- I dropped the ball, Mike. Yeah, it's far worse than that. Yeah, he, they know he gets an intel brief every day, Biden. Does he read it?

I don't know whether he reads it, but it's on his death. Everybody, every president treats those intel briefings differently. Right, he knows. They treat it differently, yeah. And he didn't comment at all on those arrests last week. Nothing. He was too busy doing whatever he raising money. I mean, it is so appalling and so dangerous.

You can't look at what he's done and then expect him to come out and say, we have a security issue on the border because it all comes back to him. So I understand he's not going to talk about it because he's created this mess. But I am glad that others are highlighting this problem. Now, you have to then follow on, right? And you would assume that if you're aware that your problem is at this level, right, that your threat level is at this heightened, that for some time now we would have been taking additional steps.

And that would have meant to secure the border, to engage in actual. You've talked about the DACA, you've talked about the asylum, we have the mass parole program, we have the special countries you know we're still allowing people in so despite his executive order which was yeah performative art uh there there are a variety of workarounds that they have to allow more and yeah everybody knows is to ruse all you have to do is ask anybody in san diego final question you've named your podcast the president's daily brief what does that mean well look the president's

daily brief it's an actual thing it goes into the white house you alluded to it uh every morning it lands on the president's desk. Some pay very close attention to it, some less so. But it's a very brief and concise look at the key issues, most of them international of the day. And so the president's daily brief podcast, which I've been fortunate enough to work on with the folks from First TV, started up in September. And it hits on three or four of the key issues happening around the world of the day. We get in, we get out. It's 20 minutes in the morning. It's 10 minutes in the afternoon, and people can be, they can stay informed and then get on with their lives because everybody's busy trying to work and put food on the table and take care of their families. So we wanted a way to get the news out in a very sort of here's the facts.

We don't try to tell them how to think about it. We say here's the facts, put a little context in it. And then we're out and, you know, Bob's your uncle. All right. How do they get it, Mike? It's available on the all podcast platforms, Spotify, all the others that are out there. any person who's used to podcasts, just go out, get President's Daily Brief. We have an extended weekend version that's actually got moving pictures and stereophonic sound.

It's very exciting. And we record that. We launch that on First TV every Friday evening, and it's available on our YouTube channel at President's Daily Brief. And I appreciate you letting me bang on about this. I'm not used to really marketing something like this, but I think it's great. Listen, I want my audience to have as much information as possible. And I mean, you're a very credible guy, so it would be worth there a while to go there.

Mike Baker, thanks very much. We really appreciate it. We'll talk again soon. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. So all of this stuff kind of makes me nostalgic for the old days of politics in America. And there is a new movie coming out on June 27th in the theaters. It is called Something to Stand for. It is a positive movie about America.

Wow. And involved deeply in the film is Mike Rowe. You know him. He's a TV guy, commentator. He's got all kinds of stuff, podcasts going on. And he joins us now from New York City. So I wanted to run all this stuff before we got to you to show, you and I know you know and everybody watching around the world me and you tonight that we have

disintegrated on our political front and our media front here is your movie and I'll get the name of it again it's stumping to stand for is that going to uplift us I sure hope so I found it uplifting to do and before I brag about it let me tell you that I think you made a real important point early on about about our media and uh i think a lot today about that hans christian anderson story you know the emperor's new clothes and uh and i think about the courage that kid had or maybe just the complete lack of guile and saying hey wait you know he's naked and all the townspeople you know who had been pretending that he wasn't finally getting that memo that's that's that's what we need our media to be right we need somebody to tell us the truth otherwise we're just

town people nodding along so but it's not going to happen on the corporate level it does happen independently i mean you tell the truth on your podcast as far as i know i tell the truth at great risk to me personally and professionally i'm blackballed by a lot of the big media companies because i tell the truth they don't want to hear that There's so much money to be made now in the speaking to the choir precincts that the corporate media is not going to abandon that. But your movie, and I'm looking forward to seeing it, runs down a bunch of very huge historical occurrences, American Revolution, World War II, Civil Rights Movement. But in a way that complements America, is that right?

It's correct. You look, I'm not just interested in history. My dad was a history teacher. My podcast is called The Way I heard it because obviously I wasn't there to bear witness to these events, but I think they're so important. And I'm borrowing from Paul Harvey,

who I'm sure you must have met in your time. Sure, absolutely. His radio show, the rest of the story, was such a great way to present a mystery. I tell you something you didn't know about somebody you do. take you along for a ride, and then have a reveal at the end. And my podcast has done well with that formula, which I borrowed,

and this movie uses it. We have nine stories. Each one is a brief mystery about somebody you know that focuses on something that you didn't. And we've lined them all up together and stitched in between is a trip to the National Mall, where I visit the statuary and the memorials. and the monuments that in many cases were built to honor the men that the movie pays a tribute to.

So obviously, it's a love letter to the country for Independence Day, and it was inspired in no small part by some of the points you were making earlier. It's not about liberal or Democrat or Republican or conservative. It's really about American and anti-American. When you look at the attacks on our statuary, when you look at our willful, decision to judge the past by today's standards. You can start, I think, to maybe understand the disconnect that has an awful lot of people confused this Fourth of July. Now, how did you get the film produced? No big corporation would back a film like this. Would you raise the money

independently? Yeah, I went to Oklahoma. I hired 300 actors from Oklahoma. The entire crew, 100 people from Oklahoma. There might have been two people from Texas. But by and large, it was a message from the heart, you know, delivered from the heartland. All right, but who paid for all that, Mike? Well, I mean, a lot of people kind of kicked in. TBN is involved in this. Fathom is the theater group that made it happen.

Okay. But mostly, you know, impact productions are partners of mine. But we took stories that I wrote over the last six or seven years. and we simply adapted them to the big screen. So a lot of the actual work was already done. It just occurred to us that it seemed like it would be a good time to put something out there that focuses on humor, gratitude, the history that we used to be taught on a regular basis.

It's just a good-natured tap on the country's metaphorical shoulders, Bill. All right. So it's independently financed, the folks who you got investors and all of that. And then it comes out June 27th. And I'm going to go see it. And then I want you to come back. Because as a historian myself, I'm going to have some questions. All right.

And I hope you don't screw up, Mike, because you know me. I'm going to go right in. I'm going to go right. I know, no, bring it, bring it. Because you've done with, and I'm sorry to suck up like this, but your books made history interesting for people who are otherwise, not interested and that's a big part i think of what we need to do you got to be a populist and you and you have to bring and the book coming up confronting the presidents which will send you a galley

of next week out september 10th is the same formula now last question for you um i like the whole tone of this obviously i love my country i'm loyal to my country um but i believe that the United States of America is in a steep decline. Do you agree? In 1998, every reliable poll pegged 70 to 71 percent of Americans as describing themselves as either intensely or extremely patriotic. That same poll today puts it at 39 percent, closer to 18 percent for people under 30. So when when politics and patriotism become conflated, we're going to see some unintended consequences. And I think they're playing out right now. Gone are the days where Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan go out to get a stake after tearing each other's throats out during the day.

We have lost the ability to have any kind of nuance when we look back in time. And, Look, my last thought is this. We're a work in progress. We're never going to be finished, and our country was formed by imperfect people. But the progress we've made is shocking. It's stunning. And there's still every reason in the world to celebrate it, to be proud of it, and to be grateful for it. And that's what I'm doing on Independence Day.

All right. And we appreciate, if you want more on this and a preview, something to stand for dot movie something to stand for dot movie all right mike we'll see you in a few weeks with my review of the film we appreciate coming on tonight thank you for listening to the no spend news weekend edition to watch the full episodes of the no spin news visit bill o'reilly dot com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member That's Bill O'Reilly.com. Sign up and start watching today.