Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - June 28, 2025

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Join us now from North Carolina is the purveyor of bernard Goldberg.com, and I check that out. And I am very busy. So bernardgoldberg.com, I check in. So you say you support the action, but you're not a big Trump fan, so explain that to me. It's not that I'm not a big Trump fan. My basis, I'm an opinion journalist now, but like you, I was a hard news journalist for a long time. So I come to my conclusions based on facts. So sometimes I agree with Donald Trump.

Sometimes I don't. In this case, I'm totally with President Trump. He did the right thing. Iran was never going to voluntarily give up their nuclear program for decades. They strung one president after another. They strung them along. And they pretended that diplomacy was going to lead to Iran, the Mullahs, giving up their nuclear dreams and passions.

They made one big mistake bill. They assumed Donald Trump was like all the other presidents they were dealing with. Donald Trump was different from all the others, and he showed them how different he was on Saturday night. I'm totally with him on this. So it doesn't have anything to do with Israel and you're Jewish, right? No, I'll tell you what it has to do. No, it doesn't.

But I'll tell you what it does have to do with. It has to do with risks being weighed against other risks. So is there a risk that Iran will do something stupid? Is there a risk that they may widen and escalate? escalate the war. Yeah, there's a risk, of course. Like you correctly said, if anybody tells you what's coming next, don't listen to them. They don't know what they're talking about. But against that risk, Bill, you have to weigh the risk of a country run by zealot Islamist clerics having a nuclear weapon. And they're haters. And they're haters and killers. And I'm not taking

the risk of them having a weapon like that? They knew about October 7th. They knew that Hamas was going to go over and slaughter those people in the kibbutz. Iran knew. And that was really, I think, would put Trump over the line. Yeah, the nuke thing, obviously, you can't allow a rogue regime that is on the record is we're going to kill every Jew we can and we're going to kill Americans too to have a bomb that they might be able to disassemble and give to a terrorist and set it off someplace.

Now, you and I are a sympathetic, and I think we've made a very logical case so far. We're 19 minutes into this broadcast. But then you have the isolationists in the Republican Party who they don't care whether Iran has a nuclear weapon or not. That's kind of strange, don't you think? I think it's immoral. I think it's immoral. I find it interesting that the isolationist wing of the Republican Party

sounds a lot like the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. But beyond that, how is it moral to say, well, we don't really, they won't put it in these words. I want to be fair to them. They won't say we don't care that they have a nuclear weapon. As a matter of fact, they'll say, we don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. But if you're going to be an isolationist, then what you're really saying, what it really comes down to is if they use it against Israel and kills 10 million Jews, Hitler only got 6 million, not our problem.

America first, not our problem. But it is our problem because, look, that's just such a sophomoric point of view, just on its face, don't take the Israeli Jew thing out. So if you have a nuclear weapon that goes off on this planet, anywhere, you set civilization back 10 years. Everybody is affected. Everybody. So this gets back to my point about risk versus risk. They only talk about the risk of a wider war. Fair enough.

That is a concern. But they don't talk about the risk that you just talked about. and that I talked about in the column that's on my website. They don't talk about the risk of Ayatollah Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini having a nuclear weapon. How could you not, you have to stop that. You have to stop that. And that's what Donald Trump did. And I'll criticize him when I think he does something that's not in his or our best interest.

But I'm going to praise him when he does the right thing. and this time he did the right thing. I'm trying to get inside of mind, and I will do this with Bowling tomorrow. Eric Bowling will be on, as I mentioned, of these isolationists because they're not dumb people. Or Aunt Paul is not a dumb person. Neither is Tucker Carlson or Steve Bennett.

They're not. But I think it's a stubbornness now that's set in, and they get an awful lot of attention doing this as well. I think there's an attention factor here. Well, I understand their concern. It's not just words, it's a philosophy. And the philosophy is we don't want to get involved in other people's problems, other people's problems, as if the United States is a bystander in all of this.

And Iraq is weighing on all of this, too. You know, we tried to change the landscape of the Mideast once. And I don't think that turned out too well. No, but it's a different situation than Iraq. But that's hanging over this whole discussion. Yeah, but they're using that to make a false equivalency. I mean, it's like the Panama invasion compared to World War II. And you know why it's in a comparison?

I'll tell you why. And you know why? Because we're dealing with a nuclear bomb right now. Right. it's so much more intense and the iraq situation was a miscalculation i mean those people say oh the government lied to us about they knew that saddam didn't have that that is so much garbage so i'm told his generals all right that he had the weapons because he wanted to intimidate those generals and that's what the new york times reported and that's why it got out of control now final

question for you. When we're looking at the landscape here, I picked out a few people. And I don't like to do this. In my younger days, I did it more, but now I'm watching people attack other people personally for money. And this is what they do on social media. They attack people personally, they get more eyeballs, and they can sell ads. It's about money. That's why they're doing it. Hey, I'm Caitlin Becker, the host of the New York Postcast, and I've got exactly what you need to start your weekdays. Every morning, I'll bring you the stories that matter, plus the news people actually talk about, the juicy details in the world's politics, business, pop culture, and everything in between. It's what you want from the New York Post wrapped up in one snappy show. Ask your smart speaker to play the NY Postcast podcast.

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I think when I single out of Chuck Schumer, am I being too harsh on the senator? But when you said he's a blanking hypocrite, what word did you mean when you said blanking? I don't want to shock you. want to shock your sensibilities, Goldberg? Since you worked in a CBS newsroom for like 50 years, you've heard the real word before. Here's the thing that gets me about Chuck Schumer. He had a perfect score on his SATs before he went to Harvard. He's a bright guy.

Yeah. What a wasted use of intellect to become a political hack. That's my take on Chuck Schumer. I sit there and, you know, does he think that guys like me are not going to trace him back to what he did when Obama dropped the bombs on Libya and you have a totally different position? And then when you ask him about it, he'll never do an interview. He'll never, ever, you know, answer those questions. Look, Ocasio-Cortez, I said this on Pierce Morgan. I went on his show tonight.

and I said, look, I don't want to be uncharitable to a fellow terrier. So I have a degree from Boston University as well. But she's simply not smart enough to hold the job as a congressperson. She's just not smart enough. You don't have to be that smart. No, but she's not smart even at your low bar. Okay? She doesn't even reach your low bar.

That's the frame of reference that that woman has. zero and I had to say it to put it into some kind of perspective like for me to pick on her would be you know like kicking a little cock or spaniel it's not fair schumer no to matter i know how much you dislike cliches and so do i i dislike them as much as you do but here's one Donald trump could find a cure for cancer and she'd be opposed to Donald Trump for finding a cure for cancer. So I don't, let's not take her that seriously. No, I agree

with that, and that's why I didn't, but the other guy from Illinois, but they both should be brought up in front of this. You don't object to that, right? Health Ethics Committee, while we have people in the field you're doing us? I don't, I think no matter what your political

philosophy, you don't do something that jeopardizes American military forces while they're in the of an operation. You don't do that. You know, it's just almost impossible to believe that these people are that stupid that they would do it. They didn't think about it. They just want to run out there and pander their far-left base. All right, the website is bernardgoburg.com. It's like bill o'Reilly.com,

except my name is Irish and Goldberg is Jewish. It's just put the both names in and then you'll get two good websites. Appreciate it, Bernie. Thanks very much. Thanks, Bill. You're listening to the No Spinoos Weekend Edition. Now, the opposition to Trump's Iranian decision didn't always come from the left. There were some conservative people who didn't like it, and they're isolationist people. One of them is Eric Bowling. I think, I think it, because I can't quite make out,

bowling's point of view roll of tape. Let's be on. So MAGA kind of has always believed that Trump was not going to be involved in foreign wars. This is a bit of a well, a certain faction of MAGA believes that this is a tough pill to swallow that we're actually bombing another country

especially because could it lead to World War III? Okay, so joining us now is the effervescent Eric Bowling from West Palm Beach where he's tanned, locked and loaded. He does a program. And never been now. And never been out

for the... And thank God. Thank God for that. He does a program bowling on Real America's voice. So bowling, are you for or against the bombing? Just yes or no? Yes, I'm for or against the bombing. Let me explain. If I may, I was against the bombing because I hate the idea of an American pilot in harm's way. Okay, so you at first... At first you were against it.

Mm-hmm. And, I mean further explained that I was against it because we had complete, or not we, I'm sorry, I correct myself because Trump did the same thing prior to the bombing. Israel had complete control of the airspace over Tehran, over the whole country of Iran. They were getting things done. I loved what they were doing. They were relentless. People were saying, okay, you know, you made your point in Israel. No, no, no. They were going to finish the job. Now, did they have the 200 mile into the side of the mountain Bunker Busters? They didn't at the time. And then the my side or my brain, this side of my brain would say, okay, well, sell it to them. Sell Israel the bunker buster bomb. Sell them in the mop, MOP.

Train a pilot. I don't care if it takes a month. Train the pilot, how to fly it. How's this? Get a dual citizen, an Israeli-American pilot to fly it over, drop the bomb. All right. You wouldn't have our fingerprints on. None of that.

that would ever happen in any way at all because we are the only people in the world that have that technology we're going to hand it off to Israel okay and there's not going to be any pilots that are not under under the supervision or the Pentagon that never ever going to happen now that the bombing now that the bombing is happening yes yes okay now I look back at so far and we're what 36 hours out and it looks like a surgical strike that was precision it was a As Pete Hagsett tells us, it obliterated the nuclear capabilities. We all know that. Are you for it or against it now? If it goes no further, Bill, I'm absolutely for it.

And I think it's going to go no further because what Trump said this morning before getting in the Air Force One, Marine One, and saying Israel and Iran, they don't know what the F they're doing, use the word. And I think he told the world, that was one and down and we're done. and it was it was magical it was almost spiritual i think back to the day trump was shot in the ear in butler pennsylvania bill just bear with me one second one inch either way now i'm not just saying one inch towards his head would have killed the would-be next president but one inch away from his year and it wouldn't yes it would have an assassination attempt it wouldn't have the the massive implications it does but those of if you believe in god if you believe in the higher power if you believe in the spirit whatever you believe in there's a reason he got hit in the ear and not taking

out and not missed them completely. And this may be the reason, because what he did in the last 36 hours made the world a safe place. Okay. So now you've evolved on that. But you're still essentially an isolationist. And you don't support U.S. funding Zelensky in Ukraine. Or am I wrong on that? No, you're 100%. You're 100%. You don't want any money going to Ukraine, right? Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't. So if you're a political junkie on a late lunch or getting ready for the drive home, new episodes of the Sean Spicer Show podcast drop at 2 p.m. East Coast every day. Make sure you tune in.

You can find us at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Correct. Okay. So if we pull out back and Putin takes the whole country, which is what he wants to do, then you know China goes to Taiwan takes that. Is that okay with you? I mean, is it okay? I think a smart president would beef up our chip capacity, chip producing capacity in the United States

because, frankly, Taiwan, the best interest to us in Taiwan is their ability to produce Silicon Valley-type chips. If we can up our game with NVIDIA and the other chip makers, even Taiwan semiconductor, for that matter, I think it's none of our business if China takes it on. So you let Taiwan go, you let Ukraine go. Why would they stop then? Why wouldn't Putin then go to Moldova? Why wouldn't China then move into South Korea and help the nut, in North Korea, destabilize that.

So in isolation is basically saying, look, you know that that's, that's, you don't know. You may have eyes on the prize with further, you know, other countries in Europe. There's no guarantee of anything other than my eyewitness report when I was in China. And I can tell you the 100% certainty, if Putin's allowed to take over Ukraine, then China will march into Taiwan. That's what will happen, 100%. So if you're okay with that.

How will that affect you? Bill O'Reilly. How it will affect is it causes chaos in the world. It destabilizes the entire world. When you have two, when you have two, it's a crazy world. Hey, when you have two totalitarian regimes expanding and taking over foreign countries, invading and taking over, you do not have a safe world. You cannot hide in Idaho. And worldwide economy will just be battered and you think it's bad now the conflicts where do you see the chaos that

those totalitarian nations will cause if not restrained and this is history bowling and you can't argue history with me because I'll you know I'll dissolve you into pudding but it's history

isolationism has never worked particularly in a society now that's intertwined planet wise it's I don't necessarily think of a total isolationist. I'm a anti-war, America-first human being. But America is not going to be first.

China will be first. We still are a part of NATO. And I've never said remove ourselves from NATO. But you don't want military action. Well, if you really don't want Putin to take Ukraine, put them in NATO. And then you've opened yourself a whole. Put Putin in NATO? Putin's not going to go into NATO.

Put Ukraine in NATO. Put Ukraine in NATO. allow Ukraine to enter NATO. That would then, that would give Putin justification. If you allowed Ukraine into NATO, that would heighten Putin's justification to the Russian people, to the only people that can stop them at this point. All right. So now you have, you're in isolationist, Bannon is, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson is.

How big do you think that constituency is, within the Republican Party, the isolationist movement. How big is it? I think it was huge until Trump decided to go forth with this. Like, I think a lot of we, many of us, I call Steve Bannon, the true north of the original gangster MAGA crew. He was the original don of that. And I think until Trump actually went forward in Iran with a bombing,

that split people. Then they put people like Tucker, I think Tucker was more the hardliner against it and Steve and the Hannity and Mark Levine were very much, very much pushing for Trump to go ahead. But where are we now now? Where are we in your opinion? I think there's a there's a split in maggot that needs to be 50-50 split? Maybe 60-40 in favor of what Trump did, maybe 70-30 in favor of the action. So you don't know, all right, because I don't know either. I mean, I suspect that most Republicans support Trump in this action. Now, if it goes south and all of these other things happen, unintended consequences,

which Iran is too weak to really make anything happen. Let's say something crazy did happen, then you would get more people more would come over to the isolationist movement. All right, last word. I mean, what kind of? week to do anything aggressively but they're not too weak to you know to fortify and finance their sleeper cells and their their hooties and their sleeper cells always going to have them attack us internally on a smaller basis which but that's not because of the bombing they were they're already here they just made a big bus they just made a big bus in connecticut these people of the 12 of the

2 million Iranians who are in this country which is great the Biden let them all in you want ice around Biden let them all in, so they're already here. They don't need an excuse, okay? They're here, and they're not here to get a job at 7-Eleven. Last question for you. The final word on this isn't going to be until Trump leaves office, okay? Because it's not like Iran, they may go away, the army may overthrow them all, so let's hope. But Putin, he's a psychotic.

I mean you're reading my book now I know confronting evil and when you see how psychotic that man is that we need a strong leader and there have been accusations that Trump is too soft about Putin

that there have been accusations he's too soft on him so we're never going to have a peaceful world last word I 100% agree by the way your book is phenomenal this is the best book Thank you, I've read, I just started, I received it yesterday, I started paging through it last, and I started reading it, so I want to just have a little bit of an idea what it was about,

it's gripping. It's, it's really, it's, it's your best work so far. With the maybe exception of you throwing J.P. Morgan and, uh, and, in Rockefeller into the mix with the evil, with the evil people. They are evil. But we'll get back, we can talk about that another time. But it was fascinating how you take people from, this man won't be alive at the end of today or tomorrow and then you explain why and then you go back to the roots of the evil that's causing so much of the evil in the world it's fantastic book um where are we going from here uh i i

would say magin needs to needs to get get theirself together again figure it out um and again hopefully it's done hopefully we're finished hopefully nobody wants give give nukes to iran or hopefully china doesn't give nukes to they're not going to give nukes something like that may escalate it and that would that would be bad but i think right now Donald trump has proven to the world that you don't dispute Donald Trump. I dispute his ideas on tariffs, and so far I'm wrong. I didn't think we should attack Iran. As of, you know, this day right now, today.

All right. Probably wrong. We're going to know to the end of the year. And I hope I'm wrong forever. Okay. I'm going to do terrorists now. We won't know to the end of the year. Bowling, thanks very much.

Everybody, check out bowling, all right, on Real America's voice. And we'll talk again soon. Thanks, everybody. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. So Kassin is the congressman from Illinois, and he and Cortez, while American pilots were still in the mission, in the skies, called for the impeachment of Donald Trump on Saturday night. While they were doing that. Now, I researched it. If this had been a declared war, they, those two Congress people, would have been charged with treason.

Which you can't charge him with treason now. What you can do is bring him in front of the House Ethics Committee to explain themselves. Now, as we told you yesterday, the chairman of that committee is Congressman Michael Gess from Mississippi. And when we called him, he was very disrespectful to us, doesn't care about the issue at all. That was pretty shocking to me. I have no idea why this guy doesn't care. care about this. I do know that the approval rating for Congress is below 20% and maybe that's one of the reasons why. The folks don't think that Congress is proactive in situations

like this. So I booked a Congress person who is proactive, okay? Her name is Nicole Meliotakis and she is a congresswoman from New York. Are you as outraged as I am about Kastin and Cortez? Well, I'm outraged by the whole bunch, the fact that they not only did that on Saturday night, but that they had the nerve to try to impeach the president of the United States, 79 members, simply because he wanted to take away Iran's nuclear capability. I mean, whose side are they on? It really begs the question, what is their intention in being in Congress,

when they don't want to see us being successful in this mission. And the president did not need any authorization from Congress to do what he did. These were targeted military strikes. This was a threat to the United States, the Middle East, the entire world. And it needed to be eliminated. And the fact that the president took this action, by the way, as so many presidents have done before, without congressional approval, whether it's Republican or Democrat, and President Obama is probably the one who did it the most.

quite frankly. Well, look, we went over that, and the War Powers Act clearly says that all presidents have a 60-day window to use military action in protecting the United States. So that's going nowhere. But the fact that these two would have such poor judgment, Kastin, and you know Ocasio-Cortez is a total loon. I mean, this woman is so far out there, it's ridiculous. But there's got to be some kind of quality control in the House of Representatives. Well, they should certainly be a question for their role. What decision-making processes they go through that they thought this was a good idea? I'd like to know. So you could bring you. Very fair assessment. You could bring an action to the ethics committee to say, I want to see them in here. And they would have to respect that action.

I think if you are, and you could get others to do it too, I'm sure. sure, did that, then I'd have to haul them in. Yeah, well, I think that's a conversation that some of the members are going to be having with the speaker to see what our options are and how we can hold these members accountable. And it needs to be addressed because this is actually very serious what occurred here. Absolutely. You need to send a message, all right, that undermining the American military in a time of when they're on a mission, there could be killed. Remember, these pilots still in the air.

They're still in the air when these two loons did this. And as I said, if we were a declared war, they'd be on charges of treason right now. So when you see all of this craziness, because you know the body, and most Americans watching me right now, all over the world, not only Americans. They're going, is Congress really effective anymore, or is it so tribal, is it so divided

that there are no standards left because the parties hate each other and Democrats hate Trump and Republicans hate the radicals? Is it beyond repair? Look, I think that there is obviously a lot of division. There are a lot of factions, but we've proven to be successful in holding previous members accountable, whether it was the expulsion of George Santos or whether it be the censorship of multiple members, whether it be Elon Omar being removed from the Foreign Affairs Committee for her blatant anti-Semitism and anti-American actions. Those are just a couple of examples. But what I will say is that even with, even with Bowman, look what happened with him. He pulled the fire alarm and we censored him. And then he was

voted out as a result of the actions. I think it was because members of Congress, amplified how what a horrible decision he made in trying to disrupt government seat is thank you for giving me no we try to do what we can I mean it's always difficult and obviously when you have a slim minority majority as we do it's hard to get every single Republican to cooperate but oftentimes we do see bipartisan support for some of these measures let's hope this thing goes to the Ethics Committee one more question about Mandani because you're in New York So our flagship radio station, W.A.B.C., and I'm doing a big takeout tonight about how radical this guy is and how destructive he's going to be if he does become mayor.

People don't understand, and I'm going to do this right after we say goodbye to you, that only 22% of eligible vote has showed up. It was 100 degrees yesterday. So he's not a lot to be mayor. But I'm going to submit to you that if this guy becomes mayor, New York City, it is over for the city. The flight of capital out of the city will be historic. I mean, people are not going to, corporations are not going to pay 14, 15% tax, which is what he wants to double the corporate tax now. And he wants a $30 an hour minimum wage. Bodega going to pay 30 bucks an hour? So I wonder what your perspective was on him. capital flee, you'll see residence flee, you will see law enforcement flee. This is somebody who has no respect for our law enforcement. Sadly, we've seen a lot of anti-Semitic actions and words

as well. And we are very concerned what this will mean at the core for public safety, for quality of life, for affordability in New York City. And my mother fled a communist country to see somebody who is proud to be a Democrat socialist, but really is a communist, become mayor of the city of new york an individual has only been a citizen of this country for seven years to become mayor of the most important the economic engine of our nation is very scary the largest city in the world by the way does not have at all the experience to run this city so there's there's that as well so we have to do whatever we can to figure out what the next steps are for democrats independents and Republicans to work together to elect someone who can defeat him and you know it's

interesting to see how the ticket may may turn out here if Cuomo stays on the ticket if if Adam stays on the ticket and you have this three-way split perhaps is an opportunity for a Republican to get in even with as little as 30 percent of the vote so we need to strategize here and all common sense New Yorkers regardless of what party you are from have to figure out what path we're going to take to move forward to elect whoever's going to be the person who can defeat this guy. Yeah, even the New York Times says he's too radical. It's crazy. Congressman, thanks very much for being a stand-up person. And let us know if you do decide to do anything with the Ethics Committee

because we're very involved with that story, as you know. Thanks again. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the No Spin News, Visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com. Sign up and start watching today.