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Episode Date: June 3, 2023

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Welcome to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. All right. Update on woke backlash. As I said, it's about time, right? So we pretty much broke this story on a national level. There's Los Angeles Dodgers honoring at Gay Pride Night in June. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, which is a Catholic Christian hate group. Catholics they hate. They hate Christians across the board. They have invaded churches. They have defiled the Eucharist on videotape. They have mocked Jesus and Mary. They couldn't be

more extreme. Couldn't be. They're getting honored by the Los Angeles Dodgers. And the Los Angeles Times loves it. Loves it. now if the proud boys invaded a black baptist church and defiled the bible or whatever you think the network news would ignore that CBS ABC NBC did not cover this story in their nightly news didn't mention that's why we had a break so The Corbyn Media is finished in this country. It's done on every level. There's no growth anywhere, and the recession in viewers and listeners is colossal,

which is why you guys are here. Okay. So the Dodgers now, because they're in full panic mode, have announced that on July 30th they're going to have a Christian faith and family day at Dodgers Stadium. So, I mean, is anybody buying this? It wasn't on the original schedule. Now, they did do this, to be fair and accurate, which I always am. In 2019, they had a Christian and Family Day, God just ate it.

But now they're panicking. And so they're going, oh, don't hate us. We'll have the Christians in. So my question is, if you're going to have a Jesus bobblehead, is that what you're going to do like this on Christian and family night? So everybody knows why they're doing this. But what you don't know is that the marketing director of the Los Angeles Dodgers is a gay activist. That's why this is all happening. And when do you hear about Target?

I'll tell you about Target in a while. Okay. So the Catholic clergy largely silent on this. You surprised? I'm not. But there is a Catholic group called Catholic vote, and they are teed off. Roll the tape. Our organization exists to give Catholics a voice, especially on fights like this, where woke corporations like the Los Angeles Dodgers, have decided to honor and celebrate a detestable vile and perverse anti-Catholic organization. We have announced a boycott of the Dodgers, but more than that, we can't simply say.

stop there. We are raising money to launch a $1 million campaign starting next week on all LA Dodgers-related media. All right. So that group is based in Madison, Wisconsin, of all places, and they're going to put out ads. And when we get the ad, they haven't made them yet. We'll show you what they're doing. So at least there's a Catholic group standing up to this. But to counter that, the California Senate in Sacramento says, we'll honor the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, too. The elected senators in California are going to honor this Christian Catholic hate group. All right? So this is a war now. This is a war. So we wanted to get the most influential cleric in the United States to come on the Nostman News. His name is Timothy Cardinal Dolan,

Archbishop of New York. Okay? The Archbishop, who I know very well, and I have a good relationship with him. I think he's a good man. He's not coming. In fact, he didn't mention he's on TV every day. He didn't mention it. Then we call the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops run by the most Reverend Timothy P. Brolio. They didn't even a reply. I think that's a little uncharitable there, but they didn't reply. They couldn't even bother to reply. However, we got, I think, the smartest Catholic cleric in the country. And here he is. Name is Bishop Robert Barron. He's presiding over the Diocese of Winona, Rochester, Minnesota. He is the head of Word on Fire Catholic Ministries. I think that's World on Fire,

right? World on Fire. No, it's Word on fire. It's Word on fire. Shame on me, because I follow you. I should know that, but I'm delirious. So, Bishop, thanks for stepping up. First of all, your general feeling on this Dodger, now California Senate, honor to this group. How do you see it? Well, it's ridiculous. I mean, this was so egregious. That's why I felt the need to speak up. I did so in the social media world on Twitter and so on. But it was such a extreme example of anti-Catholicism. I don't know how the church couldn't respond. So I wanted to use my social media platform to do it. That the California state government is honoring this group doesn't really surprise me. I was auxiliary bishop of L.A. for six years.

and we dealt with the government out there a lot. You know, anti-Catholicism is indeed the last acceptable prejudice in America. But I think it's time for the church boldly and clearly and articulately to stand up to it. But it's also Christians, not just the Catholic church. When you have a strip show featuring Jesus and Mary, that's beyond Catholic borders into Christianity itself, correct? Yeah, quite right. I mean, the one that really got my attention was, I think it was on Easter Sunday.

They had a display where they took the figure, was a living figure, off the cross, and then another person did a kind of pole dance on the cross of Jesus. So here's the most sacred event and object in the Christian universe. And it's being in a public, gross way, mocked about as horribly as possible. Well, how do Christians, I think you're quite right, not just Catholics, How do Christians stay silent in the face of that? You know, Jesus overturned the moneylenders tables in the temple in a righteous demonstration of anger.

And that's what I'm doing here in the media. I'm trying to emulate Jesus of Nazareth in a sense that I'm trying to say enough. But when you have powerful forces like the Senate of California, the Los Angeles Times, which applauds this group, the Dodgers, and on and on and on, and then you have no reply from the most powerful Catholic clerics. They are emboldened by that bishop. These people who are attacking Christianity are emboldened by the lack of reply

that turn the other cheek and ignore it, right? Yeah, well, of course, turn the other cheek has nothing to do with, you know, non-resistance to evil. It's a form of resisting evil. The church should speak up and it should engage the laity. So what you're doing, I think is what Vatican II had in mind, that great Catholic journalists and writers and cultural commentators should engage these issues. Under the leadership of the bishops and through the sanctification offered by the sacraments, but all the Catholic laity should be aroused about this. I'll give you an example, Bill, a few years ago when I was out in California, they were making noises about passing a bill that would require priests to break the seal

of confession around the sex abuse issues. And I remember saying at the bishop's meeting, I think, brothers, we got to draw a line in the sand here. And so we did. And we roused our own people, and they flooded Sacramento with so many petitions and complaints that they backed down. And I think it proves we can do it when we have the will and we have the focus. And, and And this woke business has gotten so out of control, and this is a prime example of a church just being knocked around in the public space. But it's not just the priests and bishops, it's the Catholic faithful, the laity that have to say enough. Okay, but they have to know about it when you have the three most powerful broadcasters, CBSNBC and ABC blacking. Were you surprised they didn't even cover this story?

No, I'm not surprised by it. Do you think those networks are anti-Christian? I think there's an element of that. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't make bold to speak too much further about that, but I'm not surprised to answer your question that they didn't put that in the forefront of their coverage. Somehow it's okay. It's always open season on Catholics.

You know, God knows we've been through our struggles, and I wrote a book about the sex abuse scandal and all that. But it doesn't mean that, therefore, we can never raise our voices in protest, especially when we're being attacked in this extremely aggressive way. Don't you think that the clergy, at the top, not just in America, but all over the world, is afraid. I mean, I think I know Dolan pretty well.

I, with all due respect to him, because I said, he's a good man. I think he's afraid. There's no other reason why he would remain silent. I don't know. I mean, honestly, and I wouldn't, I wouldn't, you know, presume to speak for him. I don't really know. My former boss, Archbishop of Gomez out in L.A., made a statement about this of a handful of bishops have indeed spoken out but I wouldn't presume to speak for anybody else okay

and I understand that I'm I'm an infidel so I can do it two more questions sure I told my audience I would never go to another Los Angeles Dodger game again in my lifetime but I've reversed it they're coming in to play the Mets on July 15th and I'm going and I'm going to stand up in my section and boo them when they run out on the field. I mean, I'm going to do, I'm going to, I'm a Catholic laity. That's how I'm going to protest this. And you're right. Yeah, well, I, I call for a boycott.

I was out there for six years, a lot of friends in L.A. In fact, I threw out the first pitch at a Dodgers game about five years ago, love baseball. I know a lot of my Hispanic friends, of course, who were big baseball fans. And I said, I think until we get a formal public apology, there should be a boycott of the Dodgers. Yeah, I'm not a boycott guy because that's a fascist technique, but I agree with you that individuals should make up their own minds. And why are we giving an anti-Christian team, even though they have the faith and family night? It didn't convince us, though. Yeah, I'm going to try to get the Jesus' bobblehead if I can.

Maybe they'll send one to me. It's so transparent. It didn't convince us. It was a pathetic response. How do people get in touch with you, Bishop? A wordonfire.org is a good place to access all the material that I have, and they could, you know, contact me directly that way, too. All right. And full disclosure, the bishop and I know each other, and I bought him dinner in Santa Barbara.

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or wherever you get your podcast. You don't want to miss an episode. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. All right, free speech. So is it under siege in America? in my opinion it is, but this goes back a while. Let's go back to 1925, almost 100 years ago,

when the most famous free speech case in history was evolving. This was about the teaching of evolution in public schools. Before 1925, most public schools were not allowed to teach evolution. They had to say, God created everything, and evolution, no, couldn't mention it. Okay. Clarence Darrow, you know the name, very famous attorney. He takes up the case and he wins in Tennessee. Now, there is a book just came out yesterday called Trial of the Century.

And it chronicles what happened in the most famous free speech case in America. It's written by Greg Jarrett. You may know him, Fox News Legal Analyst and a guy I've known for decades who never seems to age Jared always kind of got the little Dick Clark thing coming down doesn't really seem to age very much and he wrote the book all right so congrats on the book we hope people will check it out very important subject you know I write history books and yours is a history book as well right what was the most important thing you learned you yourself from the research you did for this book?

Well, I took a cue from you. When you write your books, you make them exciting. History can be exciting if you're a good storyteller. So frankly, I tried to emulate you. The climactic moment in the trial is when Clarence Darrow, who's out of options, he knows he's losing. The jury's against him. The judge and ordained minister is against him. And Scopes is about to be convinced. And Scopes is about to be convicted. And on the other side is the great fundamentalist leader William Jennings Brian, who's the prosecutor in the case who helped to get this law pass criminalizing the teaching of evolution. And what does Darrow do? He does something extraordinary, Bill. He calls the prosecutor to the witness stand and the judge is mortified. You can't do that.

But Darrow was counting on Brian's ego, who then stood up and said, Your Honor, I have no fear. I'm happy to give testimony to everyone about how the Bible should be taken literally. And so the judge is so worried the courtroom is going to collapse because, you know, there's hundreds of people packed in there. People are feigning because of the searing heat in the summer of Tennessee, 1925. So they moved the cross-examination of Brian by Darrell outside on a platform left over from the 4th of July activity. I have a picture in the book where you can see thousands of people convened in front of the platform, and there are these two lions, two great orators, icons in American history, facing off. And in the end, Darrow utterly destroyed Brian so much so that a broken man just days later,

he lays down for a nap, and he never wakes up. Wow. I did not know that. remarkable story. Yes, O'Brien dies shortly after Garrow dissects him on the stand. Now, Americans believe that freedom of speech is, you know, sacrosanct in stone. But as we just used a setup, now, if you speak your mind, even a responsible person like Samantha Ponder, You can be labeled and you can be condemned and you can be maligned and defamed and there's nothing you can do about that, is there? No, very little in social media as valuable in some ways that it is to blame.

I mean, look, people can create fake accounts, fake names, they can say whatever they want and they can't be held accountable. and, you know, frankly, neither can the platforms under current law. So, you know, what we're seeing in America today is the same free speech rights that are under assault bill, whether it is, you know, partisan censorship in political discourse or polarizing disinformation campaigns, classroom indoctrination, a punitive cancel culture under the guise of social justice, whereby, and we see this almost every day, conformity of thought, supplants robust debate. And that's why this story, the trial of the century,

is so important because, Bill, history is now repeating itself. I agree with it 100% on that. And it even worse than what you say, because the corporate media controls information flow. You can go on the internet and you can hear private voices. But the mass media flow is now controlled by these large corporations who basically blackball and silence people they don't like. So when I was on the Factor on Fox News, as you well know,

I was on Letterman and Leno and The View when Barbara Walters was there and all the network warning shows, I could spread my message, all right? now you won't see anybody from Fox on any of those shows all right they're blacked out they're canceled nobody okay can get access to that publishing industry you want to write a contrarian book don't go to Simon and Schuster okay although they have a new CEO and maybe he'll change and I hope he does change the culture but it's very very hard now if you don't conform to the leftist view of the world that the major corporations have embraced, you're shut down completely.

And that's not freedom of speech. No, Bill. It's not. And in many ways, I also blame the mainstream media have been whitting accessories to the erosion and the assault on free speech. I mean, just look at their conduct in the phony Trump-Russia collusion narrative

that they drove. You know, they never bothered to verify or corroborate any of the information. Or apologize. I mean, they won Pulitzer prizes. I know. I know. That says it all. All right. The book is A Trial of the Century. I've started it. It's very interesting to read it. And particularly if you are interested in your country and whether we can make a comeback in the freedom of speech area. Do you think we can, Jared, last question. Can we make a comeback and have robust debate, as you put it? Well, I'm deeply worried that we cannot. We are seeing books being banned, art shows being

censored. It seems to be getting worse and worse. It reminds me of the Joe McCarthy Red Scare area of the 1950s in which if you dared to dissent, you were punished. You bet. All right, Greg Jarrett, thanks very much. You're taking the time. Good luck with the book. Hey, I'm Caitlin Becker, the host of the New York Postcast, and I've got exactly what you need to start your weekdays. Every morning, I'll bring you the stories that matter,

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Here's a gem from the No Spin News Vault. Let's bring in former NFL great Burgess Owens. He is the author of an upcoming book called Why I Stand from freedom to the killing fields of socialism. In 1973, Mr. Owens, a first round draft pick of the New York Jets, my team. and he became a star in the league and played until 1982, which is a long career.

Went to the Super Bowl with the Oakland Raiders. He was an all-pro, and he knows the world. So first of all, your book's unbelievably timely, and I hope the media will book you. I'm worried that they might not. If they don't book you, if you're published, you can't get you on a major shows,

and won't you come and tell me, and we'll shame these people into doing it. But first of all, you disagree, obviously, with Colin Kaepernick and some of the other players who are protesting against the anthem for social justice. Why do you disagree with them?

Well, let's start off with the title of the book is why I stand from freedom to killing fields of socialism. Let's understand who Colin is. He's a socialist, it's a Marxist. Unfortunately, as wealthy as he's become $12 million a year,

he has the audacity to tell young people, the ones that look up to him, that America is a place that is a racist, is a place that oppress the black and brown people. That's how this whole thing started. So I don't know exactly what that commercial is all about about the dream, because he's stealing young people's dream every single day stands up. What it comes down to, Bill, is we have a country based on Judeo-Christian values that's so unique that every single generation from the very beginning gets better and better in terms of how we look at each other, how we serve at. of each other and how we dream bigger. And every generation's opportunity or really their responsibilities, make sure the next generation feels better, more hopeful than the last one did.

What's happening in the black community very simply is this. The leftists over the last 50 years has destroyed the family unit. Destroyed manhood and womanhood. 70% of these young men who are standing on the sideline do not have a father in their home. They're never been taught respect of the flag, the country, women themselves. So of course, it's easy for the leftists to give a narrative

because critical thinking is not part of what they've been trained to do, that everything is against them, even though they're standing on the sideline, collectively a billions of dollars standing on our sideline. And in the old days in which I was growing up, because we were taught about capitalism, free enterprise in our great country, we would have thought about how can we together collectively put ourselves in a business or businesses that will hire 85% of black boys that are now unemployed across our country.

Okay, let me challenge a couple of things. do you know Kaepernick's a Marxist? He lives very well in New York City. He and his girlfriend have a nice place in Lower Manhattan. Seems to me he's not suffering for clothing or food or anything else. Looks like he's living pretty well. So why would you say he's a Marxist? Well, that's a problem. Marxist, socialist, elitist live very well all the time. They need to have somebody to look down upon, somebody look up to them and have the power. These are people, keep in mind the message. Marxist and atheists.

First of all, they against everything we believe in. The family unit, God, country, the fact we're now discussing about a flag that most of us have grown up understanding of the last generation, that this represents everything about our future, how probably we can be. Again, I grew up at a time where my dad served in the war, and we were taught that the flag you do not disrespect, it does not touch the ground, because we have so many great people before. It's black and white in every other color.

that's made it the greatest country so you can sit there and have this kind of conversation and call in Kaepernick to have the kind of contrast that he has and complain about it. That's his reason to make your kids a totally different message. Now Kaepernick would say, look, and I assure you and your father experienced this as well, that as a young black man, I'm under more scrutiny from the police, all right? I'm going to be pulled over more. I'm going to be spoken to in a way that may be disrespectful at times. And all of that is true.

All of that has happened. It's documented. All right. So my protest is basically to say, we need to stop all that. We need to stop a selective justice system that puts more black men in prison than white men. That's what he would say. I'm doing something good. I want to help America.

How would you answer that? Very simply, let's look at what we're against. Back in 1800s, Karl Marx said something very simply. the first broad of grounds is the rewriting of history. Our race, my history, our pride, has been erased and changed around. A lot of people out there are the artists don't know this, for instance, Bill. In 1905, there's a college called Tuskegee University down in Alabama, Tuskegee, Alabama. At that time, 1905 was producing more self-made millionaires than Harvard, Princeton, and Yale combined.

My race, the black community, 40s, 50, 60s, led our country in terms of growth in the middle class, the percentage of men committed to marriage, the percentage of men in business ownership, and also education. I was part of that. I grew up in this environment of segregation, Jim Crow, KKK, but we were taught to be proud of ourselves to win, beat racism by winning over it, working harder. And in those days, you would not have the same, quote, stereotype of black men, because today black men, seven percent of them don't have a father. And believe it or not, in the black community, 90 percent are killed by black men. So you're saying that Kaepernick's message isn't directed at the real problem, which is a collapse of the African-American family and violent crime. Okay, all right.

And by the way, I'm throwing this in and I probably shouldn't, but I give Tuskegee a lot of money to this day because I do admire the people down there who run the school and the students. You know, they had that band, and we got enough money to bring them up to March in the inaugural parade. So you're right. You're absolutely right. Okay, now, you're a team leader on the Jets, and I assume on Oakland as well. If you were playing today and two or three of your teammates wanted to take the knee and they were, you know, adamant about it, Marshaun Lynch, he's been disrespectful to the flag and the anthem since he walked into the league. He's on Oakland. How would you deal with those people? Well, we have to understand. My background is a little different.

I grew up in a family where I had a dad who told me about respect, about pride, about courage, about how to face fear. The first thing I would do is I'll stand strong, as strong as they do, and tell them, and America, why I stand for the flag and why I would never deny the flag. So we have, the lefters are bullies and cowards. You notice that there's a handful of people are standing and raising their fists, and all of the other folks, all the other teams that people are standing up, No one talks about why they're standing. No one goes to them and asks them, what do you think? And by the way, they did.

They were probably afraid to answer because leftists are cowers and bullets. So I can only put myself in that situation from the environment I grew up in. And I would stand strongly. I would fight at the end of the day, Bill, and very simply, two things I was living and die for, my family, my God, and my country. That's the way we were brought up. You would try, Burgess, you would try to convince them. But you know in this climate, that's almost impossible because the African-American community

has somehow been convinced that America is not a noble nation, that their grievances that stem back to the founding of this nation, okay, are legitimate. And that's why the whole structure is falling apart because of white supremacy, white privilege. So that's deeply ingrained in some of these players. So I admire the fact that you would try to convince them that their view is misguided, but I'm not sure you would win anybody over. What do you think?

Well, here's the thing you have to understand, Bill. 30% of black Americans feel exactly the same way we do. We have had a deep-seated belief in conservative values, though we have been on the other side voting for the other side. What's happening now is 15% of black Americans were for candidate Trump, 36% are now for President Trump. Why? Because we're waking up. We begin to understand

that first of all, we need to have jobs and he's presenting it to us. You need to have education. He's talking about it. He's doing things that every other leftist. And in Ribula Cup, Republican, in the past, president, has talked about it's never done anything about. You wonder why they're so focused on opening the doors of the gates of the borders

because they realize they're losing the black vote. It's going from 90% down to 80%. It's going to continue to drop down because we're waking up. And at the end of the day, this is what left us do. They use, abuse, and discard. These guys, these, by the way, NFL management, these guys are using, abusing will discard these players. They're globalists. They care more about the international place, the market, than they care about America.

Globes care more about profit than patriotism. Leftist, even worse. They care about their politics as opposed to patriotism. So you're looking at the NFL. Now, you mentioned $12 billion. dollars. Well, they're projecting 25 billion the next nine years because they have a global reach. Right. They're expanding

like crazy. Final question. Final question. Is it all economics, all money? Is that why the NFL hasn't cracked down and said, look. Is that what it is? Yeah. If the NFL believed they were being hurt, put on some yellow socks and you're supposed

to wear white socks, see what happens. So what happened? Remember, deflategate, they actually punished the team for two years almost because they supposedly deflated football. They know what they're doing. These guys are not dummies. They have a plan and their plan is a global reach. They didn't care less about our country, about our flag, about our culture, because they see themselves as a global citizen like all the other ones out there. Nike's a good example. It's an interesting. Yeah, it's an interesting hypothesis. I'm not sure

whether I agree with that. I have to give you some thought. I think that the numbers. You see the numbers in the book. I think the coaches primarily are afraid of their players and are afraid that if they have this controversy, it'll rack the locker room. And obviously, the coaches have to win or they're like this. So that's why they haven't really come to that. Can I make one other point? Can I make one other point? This is economic, you know, Cordell just signed a $40 million per year contract. Only $4 million that is guaranteed. The other 90% is based on growth. Right. Now, they've gone from $12 billion to loss in 20% of the last two years, and they're going to they're going to drop more this year. You tell me a guy who's willing to put that kind of risk up

if they don't have another tentative motive. It's all about the global rich guys. They want to be the new soccer, the new soccer league where every organization can turn on TV, no matter what country they are, and they reach the benefits because of a game is played as a Super Bowl. All right. When does the book come out, Burgess? In October, it's called, again, why I stand from freedom to the killing fields of socialism, and we're going to have a good time talking about it because it's very tough. All right. And now offer stands. If somebody doesn't book you, because you're obviously, very articulate. I'm sure my audience enjoyed this interview. You can go on and hold

your own with anybody, but if they don't book you on, I really want to know about that. I'll cause some trouble. And you just say this real quick, Bill, what Americans do when we wake up, when we're pro-Harbon 9-11, when we wake and find them when we're a fight, we win. I hope so. That's why we're doing this website. Take your country back. All right, Bernie, we'll see you soon. Thanks very much. All right, Bill. Take care, buddy. Thank you for listening to the no-spin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the no-spin news, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com.