Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - March 1, 2025

Episode Date: March 1, 2025

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But you may have noticed over the last year or so that Stephen A has gone into public policy somewhat. He appears on News Nation. He appears on Sean Hannity's program, and he talks about very important things other than sports. Okay, because of that, Stephen A. has put himself in a position to criticize both parties. And James Carville took exception to Smith's criticism of the Democrats. When it comes to sports, I find it to be really encipher. When it comes to politics, he don't know his answer. ass from a hole in the ground.

He's on that running his mouth about how he may have to run as a Democrat because there's nothing left the Democratic Party has no talent. Stephen Eyre, you . First order business, so do you have to be so rude? You know, dropping F bombs and going all, you know, going off like that. I mean, I know that's your nature. I understand that, but let's just say,

Two can do that, you know. I mean, if you really wanted to get raw, ain't nobody hiding from that. I could be that way. It's just that my mama taught me to respect my elders. And you are 80 years of age, if I remember correctly. Joining us now from New Jersey is Stephen A. Smith. I think that's why are you like me, because I'm so old.

I think that's, now I got it. Now your mother said, hey, He's got to get old. You've got to treat them pretty well. Okay. Well, you're old and wide, so it all works. Well, and I'm still good looking, and that's all what really matters. Listen, that's what somebody else to say.

But you look good, though. All right. It's all that Botox. So over the past few weeks, the Washington Post, the New Yorker magazine, the New York Times Athletic, the New York Post, Fox News, News Nation, have all done features on you about your political future, in their estimation. It's not like you've said anything, it's exactly like that. Why do you think that is?

Why are you getting so much attention in this area? Because I do something that the Democratic Party doesn't do at this particular moment in time. I resonate. It's really that simple. And I'm not saying that to brag on myself. I'm saying that to highlight the desolate state of affairs that exist within the Democratic Party.

They haven't been very, very impressive, collectively speaking. of course. And I think that when you see the election and what the election results revealed, Donald Trump gets 77 million votes. He wins the popular vote. He wins the electoral college vote. He wins every swing state. He's up in like 50 counties. He gave a run for money in New York. They improved in California. And obviously they won the Senate. They won the House and they maintained, you know, their stake in the House. I'm sorry, in the Senate, one Senate, and they maintain the stake in the House as well. You take all of those things into account, and there's just no question that the Democratic Party is in dire straits right now. And so when you hear me pointing out some of the things that I pointed out, I'm not one of those guys, Bill, who believes that because you think differently than me, you're a racist, you're anti-black.

No, you don't play that. I've never heard you play that part. I don't play that game. Why do you think Carville got so upset about this? What is it that you're doing that annoys him? Well, you know this better than me because you're the veteran in politics over the last 50, 60 plus years, 50 years plus. I'm not going to go to 60 route because you're not that old. But here's the deal. In the end, when you look at a guy like James Carville, who came across as a bit truculent to say the least, I think that, you know, first of all, he misquoted me.

I did not say there was no talent in the Democratic Party. I said there was no one who was resonating. They did not have a voice. I happen to know Westmore, the governor of Maryland. He's a friend of mine. I mean, I like him a great, great deal. We've become friends. I enjoyed my interview with Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.

I just finished interviewing a few minutes ago, Minority Leader of the House, Mr. Hakeem Jeffries. So it's not like the Democratic Party is devoid of talent. That's not what I said. But they are devoid of a voice. They are devoid of somebody who resonates on a national level. And I think James Carville took exception of that primarily because he forgot that he was the one saying it too, which is why on my show, when I clapped back at him, I played some clips of him saying the same damn thing that I said. Because he had been lamenting that.

You ought to get Carville on your podcast, though, which is very successful. I'm going on his. I'm going on his. Yeah, got. Because look, there's a couple of things in play. Number one, there is no leader of the Democratic Party. Now it would be my first question, Carvel. a leader. Chuck Schumer, come on. There's no leader. They don't have anybody.

Oh, Leach. Kamala resurfaced at the N.A.C. didn't really make a dent. So it's wide open. Number two, Trump opened the gates for populist candidates. And if you ever decided to get into politics, that's what you would be, a populist candidate. You would be going right to the people and say, look, I feel for you and I'm going to, if you elect me, I'm going to have try to solve some of your problems. That's what Trump did. And it's been very successful for Trump. But right now, the Democratic Party is disarray.

And Carville knows that, but it just seems to be he was insulted by- And not listening to him. That's where his real frustration comes from. And please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they shouldn't listen to him. I think they should have listened to him. But I think that as is the case in our society today, on a plethora of platforms and in industries where you've got youngsters on the come up

and they sort of ease the elder statesman out of the mix because they want to run things themselves. I deal with that in sports too, where you have an abundance of individuals who were qualified and they couldn't get a job because the youngsters were placed at the helm and they didn't want to bring somebody in more knowledgeable than them. Take it to account, you know your sports a little bit, Bill O'Reilly. Bill Belichick couldn't get an NFL job. The man has won eight Super Bowl championships. Two as a defensive coordinator, six as a head coach,

and when he got let go by the New England Patriots, he couldn't get a job. He had to go back to college at the University of North Carolina to get a head coach. They didn't want to get a guy like that control. I know that. I know that, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is transitioning back to politics,

you have people in positions of power within the Democratic establishment that clearly didn't want to listen to James Carville. So that could be a part of his frustration. But in the end, he came at the wrong person because I wasn't knocking him. I thought they should have listened to him. But when he clapped back at me, I'm like, wait a minute,

you've been talking the same stuff that I've been saying. You must have forgot about that. Let me remind you. And that's about as far as I would. If you really want to cut through it all, and no Democrat has the courage to say this, Joe Biden destroyed the party. Yes, I said that. But you're not, you know, you're not in the political arena.

There's nobody in Congress or working in the Democratic precincts. No governor, nobody. Westmore, your buddy, when you talk to him, and you ask him, did Joe Biden destroy the Democratic Party? He'll say no, or he won't answer the question. Joe Biden destroyed it, because he's the second worst president in our history. And it's not even close.

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It's not clean unless it's oxyclean. But Biden, if you read my message of the day, I'm Bill O'Reilly.com, the guy, that's why Trump is, you know, bouncing up and down like, you know, an 18-year-old on speed because he's trying to reverse all of this stuff in a bit that's hurting every American. But the Democrats won't acknowledge that. also won't acknowledge that woke culture has destroyed the fabric of the party.

That's what the main thing is all about, right? You and I have been, you're absolutely right. You and I have been on TV together, and you know how I love to disagree with you, but when you're right, you're right, damn it, I got to concede it, and you're right on the money with that, you know, and so when you take into account, first of all, Joe Biden was supposed to leave, he was supposed to be a transitional president, and then was feeling himself when the midterms wasn't a red wave in 2022, so he decides to stay in office basically betrays the party and then they got to come up with some elaborate scheme to

get him up out of there that's what i firmly believe and it turned out to backfire on them and when you look at the actions of trump right now and people talk about him trying to undo so much that they have done whether you like or dislike what trump is doing and there's plenty of people in the center and clearly on the left who do dislike what he is doing it is no doubt he is trying to do exactly what he said he was going to do which is also the antithesis of what democrats at least in He's going further. He is going further. Nobody expected him to prop up Putin.

But as I wrote in my column, this is why he's propping up Putin. And there's a reason for it. I read your column. It was a pretty damn good column, by the way, too. It was no pretty about. But you're damn good writer. I got to give it. I got to give credit with credit to your dick.

You got to extract the word pretty. It's a damn good column. And that brings me to the damn good column. The damn good show that we're going to do on March 30th and Westbury Music Fair on Long Island Sunday. I'm taking a chance putting this show together, my production company, and Stephen A was nice enough to sign on. Here's why, and I'm very interested in your point of view on this. United States has descended into tribalism. It's almost like sports in the sense that you root for a team.

and in some places you'll punch out somebody who roots for another team. The United States has now descended into tribalism. And a lot of people don't want to hear anything other than what they believe. You can see it on cable television. All right. Correct. What we're doing, the three of us, is we're trying to meld three different audiences into one building, one show.

There's no doubt the show is going to be good. No doubt. All right. But whether the people want that kind of a presentation, that's what's on the line. Go. Well, let me tell this to America right now as they watch the show

and they get set to hear about us, see us in person, March 30th in Westbury, New York. There's a saying that's out there, Bill is talking about bringing the rain. And what we mean by that is that no holds barred. You say what you feel, you mean what you say. And we don't have to worry about the other, you know, one of us demonize and another.

You disagree with some things. I say, I disagree with some things you say. Same applies to Chris Cuomo. But we respect each other, we like each other. We love being on TV on front of the camera together and we get along just fine. And what we do in an event like this is remind Americans that it's okay to be honest

and authentic and give anybody else your perspective and your point of view. The key is having an open enough mind to listen to somebody who may disagree with you. Well, I hope that's the case. As long as you're willing to do that, you can do it and we do it all the time. But I don't know in this period of history

if that is gonna drive people into a show. Again, the show is Westbury Music, Long Island, March 30th, 3 p.m. Sunday. It's going to be a blast. Stephen A. will be there, and he promises to wear his pink jacket that he had on last night when the Celtics... I didn't promise the pink jacket that day. Not that day. I'm going to see you a couple of times before that. I need to see that pink jacket in person. What is your suit game going to look like? How about that? We know my suit game is going to be up to snuff. you consults with me. That's all I have to say.

Stephen A. Smith, everybody. There he is. And we'll see you soon. Stephen. Thanks for coming on. You're listening to the No Spinoos News Weekend Edition. What about the Justice Department? Now, we heard a lot, okay, about how weaponized Justice Department was under Joe Biden, all right? The immortal Merrick Garland Attorney General. Where is Merrick? What happened to Merrick? Joe disappeared, but I know where Joe is. He's in Delaware, wandering around in his jammies. All right? I don't know where Merrick is. He just got out of town, I guess. Well, joining us now is our go-to guy for Justice Department stuff.

Brett Tomlin is a former U.S. attorney for the state of Utah, in the state of Utah, I should say, not for. and joins us on from South Dakota. What are you doing in South Dakota again? You got another property there or something? Is that what you do? That's where the horses are. So we try to spend some time in the mountains. Ah, the horses don't want to go up the mountains.

It's too hard. So you're in a flatlands of South Dakota. Now I know. All right. Where's Merrick Garland? You know, I'm told that he's taking some time off. Got to recuperate. I guess, from the scrutiny that he endured and told that he's working on a book deal and that

he's looking at options among very large law firms in Washington, D.C. So not surprising, that seems to be the M.O. of a lot that, you know, after leaving as Attorney General. All right. If you can get in touch with him, tell McCall me, I have a great title for his book, How I Screwed Trump by Merrick Garland. That big. best seller, huge, but he'd have to tell the truth. I believe that Merrick Garland took orders from the Biden White House, not Joe because Jordan wasn't cognizant from day one, but from Ron Clayne and the others, to really put the screws to Donald Trump. That's what I believe is an American. Do you believe that? I do believe that, Bill, I think you've nailed it. I mean,

Merrick Garland was furious about, you know, not getting the appointment. I think he constantly had Trump as his number one target. And if you look back at the cases that he was, you know, authorizing, they were devoid of the necessary law and facts to support the effort in general. But I don't think he cared about that. I think he wanted a, you know, divide and conquer strategy among, you know, Trump and his supporters. All right.

You outran your coverage to use a football metaphor. When you said he was disappointed about he didn't get the appointment to the Supreme court. Okay? So Garland was being considered, and then that did not happen. All right. So I could never, ever understand why Mar-a-Lago raid took place. I never could understand that because they could have done it, as you know, as everybody knows, in a much more subtle way, as they did with Joe Biden. both men were asked a number of times to return documents both men uh prevaricated word of the day they didn't respond as they should have both of them and one got you know 80 guys coming in with machine guns and the other has nothing i mean i think that is i'm a simple man that's about as

simple as it gets right well it is and i think the american people had the same sentiment they just They literally watched two individuals that had classified documents, and they saw firsthand a completely different approach to each one. And the Justice Department was never supposed to be that sort of, you know, picking and choosing of winners and losers based on political affiliation. Everybody's supposed to get the same, be treated the same under our justice system. That's right. Pam Bond, do you know her? I do. Very well. Very good friends with her. Yeah. What do you think?

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that know her. She's very strong, she's very smart, and she waits until she has exactly what she needs before she will make an announcement. What does she have to do? So right now, there are a couple of things. First, the level of bureaucracy in the Department of Justice is formidable, even for an attorney general, for the deputy attorney general. And what I mean by that is they've been given so much power over the years that it really can become a battle between the political appointees and those that are inside the department. So she does have to get into the bureaucracy and weed it out, get rid of everybody that isn't willing to follow the lead of Pam Bondi and the head of the executive, Donald Trump.

And that's a full-time gig in and of itself. Do you believe that there's a left-wing culture? That's the best word. Do you believe there's a left-wing culture in the justice apportionment? I'm told that while Merritt Garland was Attorney General, that a review of donations to political candidates was 90% Democrat among the 115,000 employees in the department. Has that ever been published anywhere? I don't know that it's been published.

I haven't really. Yeah. Yeah, it was an effort to try to ascertain based on who they know are donating. and I don't think it included U.S. Attorney's Offices. Okay. So this would be Washington, D.C. based. You would, you didn't support Gates for Attorney General, did you? Matt Gates?

No. No, in fact, Bill, I know that my name was being thrown around and considered, and I was surprised to see, you know, Matt Gates all of a sudden nominated. I think that that was, I think that was, I think, that was an effort driven by Gates for whatever purposes, and we can all kind of speculate. I don't think there was many close to the president that believed that was going to, that was going to carry the day. No, Trump didn't believe he did. We had Pam Bonnie warming up in a bullpen. All right, final question. Now, the FBI is a mess. And obviously, Pam Bonnie has to oversee

Cash Patel in his job. Do you believe that the FBI now, is it possible to reform that agency because of McCabe and Comey and all of these things that have happened over the last eight years? Is it possible that Patel can get the ideology out of that? Yeah, I do know Cash. His determination is real. And it is, and it is. It is unmatched in a lot of ways. And what I mean by that is I know that he wants to return the FBI to actually investigating crime across the country. That's a refocusing of the leadership and regional leadership, state leadership, and national leadership. And I think he'll do it because that's his one mission.

We want to investigate root out violent crime and drug trafficking across the country. And I think that's, if they focus on that, they'll get it done. The one worry I have is that with Bongino, they might go right. They might try to impose a conservative ideology on the FBI. And that wouldn't be good. No, you know, politics is not good in our largest law enforcement or in our largest, you know, organizations that the country depends on for national security and for, you know, peace and the pursuit of happiness in this country depends. on how that agency is being led. Well, we all need protection, that's for sure.

And it's breaking down on a state level, particularly here in New York and California. And we do need a good FBI. Good to see again, Brett. Thank you for taking a time. We'll talk again soon, I hope. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. I am very surprised at the level of knowledge

about the U.S. Constitution. many very intelligent people, because you can't be an idiot and watch me, you just can't, because we deal with very sophisticated analysis here. So if you're like, you're not watching O'Reilly, all right, you're watching whatever. But people don't understand the difference between the federal government, the state government, what the president can do, what an executive order is. They're not getting it. They don't know there's three branches of government, okay?

And they all have checks and balances. They don't know how this was put together. Now, if you read my book, Killing the Witches, all right, I lay it out, as simple as I could possibly lay it out, how the founders put this together. And why? And it had to do with the executions in Salem because of Benjamin Franklin. And that's the value of killing the witches. But anyway, if you are a smart person in your life, you have to know what your rights are.

You have to know, all right? Or you're going to get hosed. You're going to get screwed. And most people, because of the collapse of the public school system, don't know. They have no blank and clue. Enter a woman that you may remember from her acting days. Janine Turner, who has founded a group called Constituting America.

Constituting America.org is where they live. And this organization is devoted to instructing Americans, particularly younger, about the Constitution. Janine joins us down from North Texas. How are you? I haven't seen you in a while. You're doing all right? I am great.

Yeah, old days, all days here. Good to see you, Bill O'Reilly. This is a very worthy project, which is why you're sitting here talking to me. But I want to know why you did this. Why you got involved with this? Well, I launched, I founded Constitution America in 2010 because of what you're talking about. I sat there. I had a wonderful educator in fifth grade.

Mr. Ingram. And he merged the musical 1776 where we all had our parts. I was Martha Jefferson and we rehearsed it all year long with learning about our founding documents. And it was that he really launched my career as an actress as well as my love of our founding fathers. You know, my father was a West Pointer. So, you know, that was in the air, as Ronald Reagan says. But in 2010, I was reading the Constitution with my daughter and I said, I want to know more. And we need to under, we need to value this document. It's just like you talk about. I mean, we create a government that rules under our consent. So it's not we the government. It's we the people. So we've been in existence for 15 years. We have multi-tiered programs that I've created and Kathy Gillespie and I have brought

this foundation to life. And it's everything from a speaking program to we're studying right now in our academic study and the editor of our academic study, Alexis de Toccoville's Democracy in America. I'm doing a on-camera talk show about American exceptionalism, what that means. And, you know, Bill, one of the things I think makes America exceptional are our founding documents. Because the debtor's independent is... Nobody else on earth has it. So when you talk to the urchins, when somebody brings you in, and urchins are like seven to 24, when you talk to them, and if you mention de Tocqueville, I mean, they're going to be, you know, they're having is going to hit the desk. I'm going to know what you're talking about. What do you lead with?

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high school, college, I want you to feel empowered by the time I cross this threshold and leave. I want you to understand that it's we the people, not we the government. So what I them. Because, you know, I think a lot of times, Bill, in schools, it's just worksheets. You know, this is what the government does. This is how a bill is made. This is how they do it. And they don't understand that it's, you know, those bills are supposed to come from the needs of we the people. So I get them engaged. I said, think about what you would like to change in your neighborhood or what you want to keep in your neighborhood. Oh, that's great. And they raise their hands as that. That'll get them. Yeah. So what do you want to change about your service?

circumstance about, you know, you, where you live and what's going on, and then you can stair-step. Because then you get them personally involved. Final question. Go ahead. Go ahead. Use the tools in the toolbox, which is the First Amendment. So I'm like, first you, you know, just go out the streets and create a, you know, a peaceful protest of being, you know, supposedly. Let's talk about a petition. Write down what you want. Use your speech. Use the press. It's not golf clubs. That you know, toolbox or whatever it may be. You call the press, you know, then call your assembly.

And then, you know, we talk about, everyone thinks when they vote, they're voting for the president. Well, your representative is in your neighborhood, the legislative branch. And so you call your representative with your petition. And we walk through how the amendment process works like this. And as you talk about, Bill, the checks of balance. Okay. The group is constitutingamerica.org if you want to check out Janine's group. I got one question on here.

God on the Go podcast. Now, this is something you do how many times a week? You know, I have a bevy of them logged at God on the Go. It was just picked up by Evergreen and Converge to promote it nationally. I'm like, oh, they're

interested in it? Great. And what I'm it's going to be weekly on camera, but at times it's been daily. But it's God on the go. And it's a about what I'm focusing on right now is God philosophy, because I think we hear a lot about science and a lot about, you know, psychology. It's God psychology, not philosophy. God's psychology. We hear a lot about psychology on social media, but then in the dark of night, how do you apply that? And my faith is really, really monumental to me. And it's, so I'm sharing my faith and how we can

merge the two together, but also just getting through the day, prayer groups, things of that nature. How do you, how do you handle people? who are atheistic who don't believe in God. Well, you know, maybe I snag them in with a cute little tagline or something, and they decide to watch the show, and maybe God will lose them. Because I really think it's God and the Holy Spirit that goes in and says, all right, you know, listen to what I'm saying. But also, I think that science is great, but often science isn't enough,

and psychology isn't enough for the dark of night when people are suffering. it. We really then have to find the strength somewhere. And when we can think about, you know, that there's a universe out there, that God created us, that God can help us, that he's right there with us, and that we can get through these things, through the power of God. And, you know, look, we're getting ready to find out that we're not the only ones in the universe either. So I love, I can't wait for all this to be revealed. So that's the way, the way I think it happens, is just to, well, you're doing a lot of good work. You're doing a lot of good work, Janine. Thank you very much for that.

And, you know, if you get anything that you feel is, you know, you say we're not alone in the universe, all right? You know, when you get... I don't think we're alone in the first. You know, I'm a reporter. So I examine what the data is. They're going to release this UFO thing soon, I guess, along with Kennedy and King. Yeah, all of those papers. so we'll be anxious to see it.

Okay, well, I'm going to go on record saying that there are other stars and planets out there, and we're not alone in the universe. All right. You heard it here. Thank you, Junae. We'll talk soon. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member.

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