Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - March 22, 2025

Episode Date: March 22, 2025

Listen to this week's No Spin News interviews with Jefferson Morley and Josh Hammer. We also visit the No Spin News archives and Bill's conversation with Tulsi Gabbard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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of a specific vehicle, always properly secure cargo. Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Cease fire ends. This is terrible. So Ned and Iowa address. the people of Israel tonight and says, look, Hamas is releasing the hostages. They're building back their weapons base. They're violating everything they said it would do. So we'd bomb the hell out of them. And they did. I don't know, you know, Gaza puts out the casualties,

and they're never right, but hundreds were killed on an airstrike this morning because they're way ahead time over there. And I don't know if that's ever. going to stop. I don't know. And Trump can't really pay attention to it until he gets this Ukraine thing. Then they'll flood the zone over in Gaza, but that's the latest on it. And joining us now is a guy who knows a lot about the conflict and everything else. His name is Josh Hammer, you might know him. So you author of the brand new book, Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation, Destiny of the West, out today. He's also on the first TV, which is our distributor as well. And we're

pleased to have him from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Any update on the Gaza stuff that I missed? Bill, I mean, the ceasefire is obviously over. The IDF is hammering Gaza right now. It seems like they are committed to finally seeing this operation through. My own two sense on this is basically as follows. The President of the United States, Donald Trump, and his entire team have made very clear to Netanyahu and the Israelis that you have all the support that you could possibly want right now. Trump has basically said, give them hell, make them pay for it there. He has made very clear that the United States will continue to stand with the Netanyahu government in Israel diplomatically, militarily, in the international foreign, so forth there.

So to me, Bill, the ball truly is in Netanyahu's court right now. And I am personally very hardened to see that the IDF is returning to the very hard, difficult, albeit wholly necessary work of eradicating the Hamas cancer from Gaza. because there is no solution. Do you think Hamas ever going to surrender is ever going to stop? Because I don't think they're ever going to stop. So that means you've got to kill them all, right? So look, I don't know exactly what the solution is, Bill.

I do say, I argue in Israel and civilization, that at a bare minimum, it is incumbent upon the United States and Western civilization at large to convince the Palestinian Arabs that they have lost the century plus long jihad to eliminate the Jews. of Israel. Part of this is psychological, part of this is diplomatic, but you have to actually convince them that they're never actually going to get back this land. I don't know if that's

possible, because they're crazy fanatics. But it was, it was interesting today that Trump linked part of his conversation with Putin to the exact thing you just brought up. That apparently Putin agreed that there wasn't going to be any dissolution of Israel. And that Putin would help prevent that, apparently. I mean, you know, but I know that Trump is emotionally invested in this, and you saw what Trump did to the hoodies in Yemen over the weekend. He's blowing a hell out of them. But, you know, to me, I'm much more optimistic about Ukraine than I am about Gaza. Would I be wrong there? Look, Donald Trump takes a very different approach to these two conflicts. I personally take a very different approach to these two conflicts. Because, Bill, I'm a hardheaded foreign policy realist.

I look at every hot spot. I look at every conflict around the world. And I basically ask the following question, what is the national interest for the United States in this particular conflict? And based on my answer to the first question, then I ask the second question, which is what, if anything, should we do about it? And I, like President Trump, have a very different answer to these two particular conflicts. It's time for the war in Russia and Ukraine to wind down. This thing is going on for over three years now. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people have died. Millions and millions and millions more from Ukraine have fled the country there.

Bill, it's going to take Ukraine as a country at least a half century, maybe more than that, to recover from this in terms of getting an economy back, in terms of getting their people back, in terms of giving people hope for the future to start marrying and having children again there. This is part of the reason why I have personally been skeptical of Vladimir Zelensky and his we will continue this war until we regain every square inch of territory campaign because I look at that and I say at what cost, at what cost? But it's not even going to happen now because Trump's elected. If Kamala Harris had been elected, then I think Putin would have pushed it.

But he knows that Trump's not going to allow that. And he knows America's more powerful than Russia. And he doesn't want a nuclear war over this thing. That's why Putin's giving a little bit. Now, look, I hate to use the cliche, see, because that's what all these idiot television people do, because they don't know anything. I know a lot. But I think that there's a framework there where Putin's going to try to walk away and tell his own people, hey, we want. Look, we got Don Bos, and we got, you know, remote regions

or whatever he's going to tell him. But in Gaza, these people are so hateful, I don't ever think they're going to stop. I just don't ever think they're going to stop. And that means that every day, innocent Israeli people are in danger. And innocent Palestinians too, although I don't feel so sorry for them because they should have tried to overthrow these Hamas people rather than cooperating with them. I know it's fearful. I understand all right. I want to play you a montage that my staff put together and get your opinion on this. I believe that the leftist media in America, I believe two things. They don't like Israel in general. they see Israel as a fascist nation, okay?

This is the progressive left in America. And they don't want a ceasefire in Ukraine because Trump would get credit for that. Roll the tape. One thing is becoming clear now. Mr. Trump admires Mr. Putin. I don't think there's any floor to his subservience to him. First, there is indeed a lot of land that's different

in Ukraine today, because Russia illegally invaded a sovereign country. Donald Trump, the American president's suggestion that any of it should be, quote, divided up with Vladimir Putin is an undemocratic, unprecedented hot take from a sitting American president. Trump's views are completely out of step with the views of most Americans. But on this issue, he doesn't, it appears to me that he does not care much that he is so out of step with Americans. He views himself in Vladimir Putin as sort of bonded in victim. I mean, these people, A, they're dishonest because they don't have a solution to stopping this Ukraine war.

You ask, well, what's your solution? They don't have one. So that means it goes on and on and on in the United States just gets billions and billions of billions of dollars over there, and so does the EU. Because you can't let Putin just run wild and take the country over. I mean, that would be, China would love that. You know, the reverberations of that would just be incredible. So these leftist progressives, they hate Trump so much.

They would rather see thousands of people die than to support Trump's ceasefire vision. Am I wrong? Well, Bill, to support a ceasefire would be to give Donald Trump a tremendous diplomatic achievement. So first of all, I think a lot of people on the left simply do not support diplomacy or any kind of off ramp here because they don't want to give Donald Trump the ability to have a globally. recognized diplomacy achievement to his name. I mean, think about the Abraham Accords, thinking of the Middle East topic there. I mean, the Abraham Accords were a transformative generation-defining peace agreement that Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu were able to broker between Israel and

the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan, 2020, in any other generation, any other president, Phil, that would have been a Nobel Peace Prize-worthy event here. So I think the left does not want to give Donald Trump a similar opportunity for a Nobel Peace Prize-worthy event. Presumably, deny him the prize you're so dishonest why don't you say that then just say that instead of hiding behind all this garbage uh final question for you um you have invested a lot of emotion in israel and i respect that um but i don't know under a guy like net njahu if you it can ever be Dayton. Are you optimistic? Look, Benjamin Netanyahu is a student of history.

Is there someone who has done the reading, so to speak, there? I think his moment is now or never. He's the longest serving leader in Israeli history. He has led his whole life, and he has proclaimed that he will never let Iran get a nuclear weapon, that he will never let the Palestinian Arabs commit various acts of jihad. Well, tragically, October 7th did happen under. his watch now. And again, Bill, as you and I were saying earlier in the conversation, President Trump has gone all in. He has made extraordinarily clear that Bibi Netanyahu and Israel, the ball is in their court there. So there is really an extraordinarily

high amount of pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu, something that he is quite familiar with for better or for worse. But he has a lot of pressure on him to actually finish the job in Gaza once and for all. I'm cautiously optimistic that they will do it, but I'm not certain. If you're thirsting for asphalt's melting your work boots, tape measure has anger issues, nail guns talking smack again, and hard hat baked onto head-level refreshment, we definitely have that. Cool off with Gatorade Summer Blaze, available only at Circle K.

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And no, those were not raisins. Amazon Pharmacy. health care just got less painful we'll add someone all right the book is israel and civilization the author josh hammer we wish you very good luck with it josh thanks for helping us out tonight my pleasure thank you guys so much you're listening to the no spinoos weekend edition jfk files all right last night um 63 000 400 pages were released and as i said on news nation. Really, I didn't think there were going to be any direct accusations or a smoking gun, pardon the pun, about the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The best book ever is killing Kennedy.

I know I'm going to say that, but, man, two million people bought it, and it's never been impeached. Everything we have in there is true. But there are some very interesting things. that are coming out of the National Archives. Remember, the documents that are coming out about the Kennedy assassination, and Martin Luther King, Jr., too, they haven't come out, but President Trump told me Monday in person that they will, okay? These are intel documents, American intelligence documents. They're not stuff that they found in Jimmy Hoff's locker or anything like that.

Okay, these are intel documents. And the CIA is front and center with Kennedy assassination. Joyce now is a guy who has been investigating the assassination for decades. His name is Jefferson Morley. He works for substack now. I read his stuff all the time, credible man. He's not some loony conspiracy theorist. And remember, those conspiracy people make a lot of money peddling this stuff, a lot of money.

And people believe what they want to believe. So anyway, Mr. Morley, I know you've been looking at some of this stuff. Is there a headline that's been out there? Yeah, there's a bombshell in these stories. And the emerging story is the CIA surveillance, manipulation, and use of Lee Harvey Oswald for intelligence purposes while President Kennedy was still alive. Now, there's not a smoke one document that shows this, but there's about nine Engleton documents that became public yesterday.

And if you read those documents in conjunction with Lee Harvey Oswald's CIA file and documents released in recent years, you see this pattern of malfeasance around CIA operations around Oswald that have never been explained. All right. Let me stop you. Who is James Angleton? Say that again? Who is James Angleton? James Angleton. He was the counterintelligence chief. of the CIA, and his testimony emerged yesterday. He testified to congressional authorities in the 1970s to a couple of committees in closed-door testimony.

So this executive session testimony has become public for the first time. What did he say? What exactly did he say? I missed your question. What did Angleton say to the committee? What Angleton said to the committee was that he had relied on Israeli emigres to build his own intelligence empire. And one of the people who he deployed to monitor and surveil Oswald was probably one of these Israeli agents. It's not clear yet, but it seems like the evidence in this New Testament,

strongly suggests that, that Engleton recruited Oswald as a source or a contact. It's indisputable that he kept him under surveillance for four years from 1959 to 1963. These new documents point to an Israeli connection, using Israeli agent to monitor Oswald. You know, Bill, Angleton had 180 pages on Lee Harvey Oswald on his desk a week before Kennedy went to Dallas. That fact alone has only emerged in recent years. years, received no news coverage, and is really an extraordinarily important part of the story.

What the new documents raise is, was the CIA atrociously incompetent when it came to the alleged lone gunman, or was Angleton actually running a counterintelligence operation involving him? And I believe it's the latter. So I will answer your question. I will answer your questions. So Lee R.V. Oswald was a former Marine who defended. to the Soviet Union. The Soviet authorities accepted him into the country.

He got married to a Russian. Learn a language a little bit. The U.S. State Department met with Lee Harvey Oswald and told him not to do it. Waswell did it anyway. Oswald got tired of Russia, went back, a petition for reentry to the USA. The State Department let him back, which was unusual.

Oswald gets back. He's a near-do-well. He's a miscreant. He can earn a living. abuses to his wife, he beats her up. Then he decides he wants to defect to Cuba. He goes to Mexico City, where the CIA is surveilling the Mexico City embassy because of Castro. They see them. They then go back, and this is where Engleton comes in. So he's on the radar. He's a defectory in the Soviet Union. Now he's down trying to get to Cuba. We're going to watch him. They assign a

reminder to him in Dallas, Texas. That is where Lee Harvey Oswald settles with Marina. The minor's name is George DeMoran Shield. You know him. You discussed it. He is the hands-on guy that is monitoring what Lee Harvey Oswald is doing. And I don't know this to be a fact, but it has to be reporting to Angleton. Back to Angleton. It's not an Israeli guy. It's There's every reason to believe that George DeMoran Schult's reporting went up the food chain in the CIA. There's no doubt it did. Okay? Yeah.

DeMorin Schill is teaching college at Bishop, an African American school. Okay? He is an aristocrat. He speaks like five languages. His wife is one of these dilettons. And he's hanging with Lee and Marina who can barely make a living. There's no nothing. except for the Russian language, okay?

Right. Oswald kills Kennedy, and there's no doubt he did, he ordered to- I doubt that, Bill. I doubt that. I know, the forensic evidence doesn't support that. That's not true, and you and I will never agree. Oswald orders the Carcano, his prints are on the rifle, the shellings in the car, matched the Carcano, he did it.

But again, I respect you. You believe what you want to believe, okay? Oswald had tried to kill somebody before. shot a police officer after. It's all documented in my book, and again, people can believe what they want to believe. But you know what else is documented, Bill? You know what else is documented? The Dallas doctors who tried to save Kennedy, they unanimously agreed Kennedy had been hit

by gunfire from the front. None of them have appeared. None of them have appeared in public to say that. And if they had it, I would have covered it. Dr. Robert McClellan stood at the head of the table looking at Kennedy's head wound, and he describes this in two interviews. You can find on YouTube, Dr. Robert McClellan was one of the Dallas. Was that CBS? Was that NBC? Was that ABC? Where was that?

No, he sat for an interview with a doctor. Oh, come on. And these are on. Look, all of that. If you want to believe it, Jeff, you believe it. I don't. I need hard evidence. If a doctor, if a doctor saw. He's not a conspiracy theorist. He's an eyewitness. Well, then why wasn't he on 60 minutes with Mike Wallace? Okay. He was very public about what he wanted to do. No, no, he didn't go public.

Because the implications of what he said were so profound. He never went public. The New York Times would have gone on every, he could have been on with Kronkite. He could have been on with anybody. He didn't do it, all right? And nobody backs him up. I just urge people to look at the YouTube of Dr. Robert McClellan and decide for themselves. The key.

I mean, we disagree, but people should judge for themselves. And I applaud that. You will not find anything in the CIA or FBI files that refer to any doctor that disputes that Oswald pull a trigger. It won't be there. Interesting. Okay. So then DeMorin Shield disappears. Dr. Robert McClellan was quite clear about...

That's fine. It's not in the files. It's not, it was not taken seriously. So DeMorin Schild disappears. Why wouldn't they take the testimony of a doctor who observed Kennedy's wound from 8? 18 inches away. Why wouldn't he go, why wouldn't he go public on broadcasts that would have been very happy to take him? He didn't want publicity. Oh, he didn't want publicity. Doesn't stack and let's move ahead now. So DeMorin Shield, DeMorin Shield disappears, all right? And I know that

because I was in his house and he's gone. And this is the late 70. He goes to his daughter's house in Palm Beach, where the congressional investigators, okay, are trying to track him down and interview him, and DeMorin, she'll commit suicide. Okay, I'm there, I'm in town, we know what's going on there, we didn't know he was going to do that, we show up to the house, the cops are there, all that that has never been explained. His daughter still lives in the USA, not going to say where, it's not fair to her, I don't want to put her in danger, I don't know what she knows. I know she despises her father.

We know that, but we don't know. That is the key. And I'm looking for any George DeMorichield stuff coming out of these files. So far, I haven't seen any. Have you? You know, one of the problems with this release was that the archives did not do what's called OCRing. They didn't make these documents searchable before they posted them. So we're going to do that at the Mary Farrell Foundation and the website of the Mary

Farrell Foundation is Maryfarrell.org. Make me a promise. And then we can go through and we can put DeMoran Schult in. Yeah. DeMoran Shield. I would come back to you with it. Anything DeMoran Schilt related. And Engleton.

So if Angleton and DeMoran Shield are corresponding back and forth, that is a key to this mystery. Yeah. And that's where we are. That's where the story is going. I hope so because we need to find out everything about it. Absolutely do. At Shane Company, we know getting engaged is an exciting time. We also know that finding the perfect engagement ring can be overwhelming.

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It detects leaks and stops your water main automatically from anywhere. So the only thing on your mind is having nothing. your mind moan mrs molly thanks very much we really appreciate it and once again if uh i you can check out what he says i don't believe it um and what we have in killing kennedy is in stone absolute stone it's all primary stuff all fbi files all local dallas pd files couldn't have been altered there it is here's a gem from the no spin news vault Now, I'm watching News Nation last night because I'm on News Nation on Monday and Wednesday, and you might tune in for that. I think they're pretty lively, 7 o'clock on Monday and 8 with Cuomo on Wednesday.

So Cuomo's got Tulsi Gabbard on, because Ms. Gabbard has a new book. It's already a bestseller. And he drops this on her. Go. So the former President Trump, your name is supposedly on a short list. Do you agree with that statement? Would you serve with President Trump? I've heard the same thing that you have. If asked to serve in that way, I would be honored. Straightforward answer. Tosie Gabbard is an interesting story.

Okay, born in American Samoa, out in the Pacific. She moved to Hawaii at the age of two. Had a regular middle class upbringing. Joined the Army, and she's still in the reserves. she is a lieutenant colonel impressive served in iraq two tours one was in kuwait one was in iraq um and then of course as you know uh was a congresswoman from hawaii for eight years four terms and she joins us now from washington promoting her book for love of country leave the democrat party behind here. It's going to be different than the other interviews you've done. Do you ever get

tired of the pinhead in the media asking you the predictable questions? You ever get tired of that? Sometimes I wonder like, you know, I get they talk to a lot of people, but I don't know. A little uniqueness is what I count on you for, Bill O'Reilly. Well, you'll get it here. When I do my book interviews, I just swallow it. I figure as long as they're promoting a book, no matter How dumb the question is, I'm going to answer it. I've got to just get numb to it, you know? Yeah, that's true. It's like going to the dentist.

There are some good interviewers, but not as many as there should be. Okay, so I think you are compatible with Donald Trump domestically, but I'm not sure about abortion. Do you support the Supreme Court's decision on Roe v. Wade giving authority to the individual states? I do. And I said so when that ruling occurred. And the reason why is because for so long, as you know, the Supreme Court has been largely politicized mostly around this single issue, which is not how our Supreme Court should be by decentralizing this,

making progress in limiting the jurisdiction of the federal government. We are moving in the right direction. I would argue that there are many other issues where, like education, for example, where there is huge opportunity to do the same. All right. So you and Trump are compatible because he supports the Supreme Court's decision. But what about states like Idaho and some others who are going to make it very, very difficult to have an abortion? And sometimes, in my opinion, and I am pro-life, because I'm a Roman Catholic, and unlike Joe Biden, I'm going to follow the tenets of what I believe Christianity is all about. That's my choice.

choice. But I do know that in Idaho and other states, you know, even if the woman is severely impacted physically, it'll be hard for her to have abortion. Where do you come down on that? Well, this is an issue that's before the Supreme Court currently. I was just learning more and reading more about the case as it's being argued now. You know, again, this is such a complex conversation and issue, and it needs to be happening at the state level. where it is closest to those being impacted. The issues that Idaho is bringing forward to the Supreme Court now, I think, are very telling. I got to be honest, I'm still learning more about the facts.

I've listened to some of the arguments, and I'm looking more at the facts of what's happening there versus the rhetoric that's being presented. Okay, well, you know, as a politician, I don't want you to get too involved with facts. That's not good. Okay, being a wise guy, but that's... That's me. That's me. So if you get the VP nod from Trump, which you are under consideration, I can tell everybody

that I know that, to be a fact, you would be the first surfing vice president, okay? I don't know if Dick Cheney was a surfer, but I don't think he was. I kind of doubt it. Maybe I shouldn't prejudge, but... First surfing vice president. Samoan vice president and the first Hindu vice president. That is some trifecta there. Have you thought about that? Not, no. To be honest, no, not really.

Well, that was the only softball. That's the only softball question I'm going to give you. Well, here, I'll tell you this, Bill. We've seen how different people have occupied the White House and presidents, vice presidents, you know, they've, what was it? they've got the bowling alley now. There used to be a pool. I don't think there's a pool there anymore. No pool. I wish that there was a wave pool somewhere in the greater D.C., northern Virginia, Maryland area. Well, someday when you're president, you can have it installed. When president can do anything, you can have a wave pool in there. I don't know that that would be the wisest use of taxpayer dollars for the record. However, it would be nice. If you are on the Trump

ticket and you guys win, I want to see Trump and Wyoming Bay with you on the board, that's what I want to see. And then I can die after I see that. No, don't see that. Okay. Now, softball is over. Now we go into foreign policy. No, it is here where it gets a little dicey for you, Congresswoman. This is what you said, May 16th, 2022. Go. What we do know is that the Biden administration has failed to clearly define any objective in this proxy war in Ukraine. They have failed to define what winning looks like. So clearly there is no end in sight without that being defined. Okay. So I've been very clear and that the Biden administration is not clear on anything. But if you listen to Blinken and Sullivan, they basically say we ought to stop Putin.

We're not going to be Putin militarily. But British intelligence this week reported Putin's losing a thousand men dead every day in Ukraine, a thousand. And his position in his own country and in the world is much weaker than it was two years ago. So that's the end game to make it impossible for Putin to expand his totalitarianism. The man is a murderer. He's a killer, okay, and to send a message to Xi and other tyrants that this will not be tolerated in the world. So am I wrong because I continue to support American aid to Ukraine? it still is there there is still not a clear end state at what point is that defined they say they want to stop Putin rayband meta glasses are powered by meta ai so you can get real-time answers hey meta how bougie is jade garden

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to ukraine at what point did the ukrainian people find peace in their own country and stop seeing the killing and death of their own people. You can't be a predictor of that. My feeling is if Trump's reelected, he'll make a deal with Putin, okay, because they have some kind of relationship that nobody understands. But I think that has a much better chance if Trump is president than Biden. But it's like the Cold War. How long did the Cold War go on from 1945 until Reagan knocked it back 30 years later?

And what were you going to say? We're not going to stop the Soviet expansion because we don't have any endgame. This is the same thing. Is it not? It requires even our own military leaders here in the U.S. at the highest levels, even those who work in the foreign policy arena, many of them, not all, have conceded for months now that the only way that this war ends is with a negotiated outcome. Yeah, but Putin has to negotiate.

It's like Hamas. Correct. Hamas doesn't want to negotiate. Putin doesn't want to negotiate. You've got to make it so painful for him. That's not completely true. There have been efforts put forward by leaders of other countries where they've been able to get parties from Russia and from Ukraine

together to the table. And the Biden administration has stopped every one of those efforts from proceeding and continuing on. And ultimately, it is the Ukrainian people who are suffering as a result. I don't know if that's true. Here's what I know is true. Pope Francis. The former Prime Minister of Israel was one of those people who spoke very clearly about his knowledge of the Biden administration and leaders in the West standing in the way of a negotiated peace treaty.

It does Joe Biden no good not to try to bring this to an end, which is why I'm skeptical of that report. But Pope Francis, but he's doing a lot of things that don't make sense and are not doing any good. But Pope Francis himself, some emissary to Putin, said, I will broker the peace. and Putin told them they get stuffed. Okay, so that's true. That happened. I know that to be a fact. Now, let's get on to the other soundbite.

As you might know, I wrote a book called Killing the Killers, which went all through Obama and Trump's war against, talk about an unending war, against Islamic terrorism, okay? Here's what you said on January 3rd, 2020, about the assassination of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard leader Soleimani. Go. This was very clearly an act of war by this president without any kind of authorization or declaration of war from Congress,

clearly violating the Constitution. It further escalates this tit for tat that's going on and on and on will elicit a very serious response from Iran and pushing us deeper and deeper into this quagmire. And it really begs the question, for what? So you're criticizing Trump there for waxing Soleimani. Do you stand by that or have you changed your opinion? Well, as you see, my point there was that this was an act of war that Congress did not declare.

That was the main point there. I believe strongly in the separation of powers. You can't fight the war on terror by getting congressional approval for actions that have to take place like that. Baghdad and ISIS, all of those things. Even Osama bin Laden's assassination was not approved by Congress. Surely you didn't object to that. Congress, I supported, I was not in office at the time, but have spoken out and supported the continuance of those authorities

that Congress did pass, the authorization to use military force to go after al-Qaeda and those terrorist organizations that came after us on 9-11. But with the War Powers Act, into different groups like ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and so forth. I've been very outspoken about the need for a defeat radical Islamist terrorism. The difference and distinction there on the war powers is this was a high general in the Iranian military. Yeah.

That is a different, that is a different situation. Designated terrorist because he killed civilians. The War Powers Act that Bush, the younger side, gives the authority to the president to do it. He had the authority to kill Soleimani al-Baghdadi. Obama had the authority to kill bin Laden. But I think you would, once you get into that office and you get the national security briefings every day, I believe, because I think you're a very smart woman

and you know the big picture, you've got to fight that war that way. You get a chance to take out the leader of Hamas. You don't go to Congress. You take them right off the map. You have to do it that way. A couple more questions, and I'm sorry to keep you so long, but you're such a good guest.

And I want everybody to read your book because I read your book. And I'm so busy, it hurts. I read the book, and it flows nicely. Did you get shot out in Iraq? That means a lot coming from you. That means a lot coming from you. And it's honest.

I really do appreciate that. If I thought the book was terrible, I wouldn't say anything. Did you get shot out in Iraq when you were over there? A lot of mortars and indirect fire on almost an everyday basis. Okay, because you're over there a year, and then you went back to Kuwait. And you're a lieutenant colonel, right? And you're still in the reserves, right? I am.

I was deployed to East Africa. a couple of years ago, we'll be taking a command of a Army Reserve Battalion here on June 1st. Very, I think you have the strongest resume of any vice presidential person being considered by Trump. Final question. Hawaii, I love Hawaii, but it's loony left. It's Maisie Hurano. It's crazy left. You used to be semi-crazy left. But you changed. You changed. But Hawaii still remains. the socialist paradise. All right. If you had to pinpoint one thing that made you change,

what would it be? One thing. There are so many things that you saw in the book, but really what it all boiled down to, Bill, was about the Democrat elite, not only opposing, but trying to undermine our fundamental rights and freedoms because that is at the heart of everything.

That is who we are as a country. Well, they want to do that. We have people in power who are trying to shut us up. They're afraid of a free people. They're afraid of a free society. They're afraid of a democracy where we get to decide who gets to serve in the presidency and in power. They're terrified because they know deep down inside we will see the truth about their abuse of power and we'll throw them out of office. And that's what I hope happens in November.

Well, see, I mean, it's a big turning point. So that was a boring interview. I bet you that was one of the better ones, right? Right? It was great. Yes, absolutely no question. You don't have to say that. You can, you know.

I know I don't have to. All right. So the book is, for love of country, leave the Democrat Party behind. Great gift for mom on her day coming up on a Sunday or everybody who wants to learn about an honest politician. I believe Congresswoman Gabbard is that. Thanks for appearing and we'll talk again soon, I hope. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the No Spin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member.

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