Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - November 15, 2025

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:30 America's greatest warriors, and some who were not that great, who everybody thinks were good. Roll the tape. It's the mid-1800s. The colonies have been liberated by George Washington, and the young nation has been strengthened by Andrew Jackson. But now the Civil War calls on new heroes to keep a fractured union intact. General Ulysses S. Grant came from humble beginnings and rose to lead the Union Army against the rebellious South. His willingness to make hard decisions led him first to victory, then to the White House. He was a hero of the Civil War. Without Grant, it might have been a stalemate because McClellan, who was the first commander, he was a coward, and his troops did not respect him.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And then Lincoln went through three, four guys. And they were terrible. And finally, he drags grand, who's out in the hinterlands. Because this guy, at least will fight. So we analyze all the big generals all throughout history and yes, in some surprises. So joining us now from New York City is Leland Vitter, the correspondent on the special. And of course, the author of the book. but born lucky, big bestseller, dedicated father, grateful son, my journey with autism.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And anything surprised you about the special, Leland? Yeah, I think it could have been five segments. We spent the day at West Point, Bill, after I interviewed you, and they gave us the head of the history department at West Point to take us through the generals and the lessons learned. And it was, I think, one of the top 10 or 15 days of my life listening to him, and our viewers are going to get a taste of that, of the very best, and to walk around the plane, the parade ground at West Point, and see the statues of Washington and Grant of Eisenhower, of Patton, and then bring those alive on the screen is this just sort of great juxtaposition of the history we know. and then the history that will be written by those cadets now at West Point? Now, I didn't see the special yet, but they say it's very good. And I think it's important for Americans who really don't know a lot,
Starting point is 00:04:09 generally speaking, because public schools don't teach history anymore, about their leadership on a battlefield, because we tend to mythologize our generals and our generals, military now. It's not like Vietnam where the military was, whoa, you know, they were getting hammered unfairly. But we talk a little bit about Vietnam and the poor leadership that led to that debacle. And then, of course, we talk about the modern wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But what I took away from it was that, and I'm not going to, I don't want to give it away, but you asked me who the greatest American general was.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Don't give it away. We want people to watch the special. And my answer surprised you, right? It did. And I would say that the person at West Point, who we interviewed, the head of the history department at West Point, disagrees with you, Bill. So we kind of, yeah, we adjudicate that in the special.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Oh, but I didn't get to rebut him. See, you interviewed him after me. Oh, you see, that's what happens when you do your, interview first. Sorry. Okay. So there is a lot of stuff swirling around. Now, one of the guys that you and I kind of went up against was McArthur, General MacArthur in World War II, who was, you know, a good general, sure, but so many deficits. And you kind of disagreed a little with that, right? I did. And we went to the MacArthur statue, right, at West Point and looked at due to do the honor and country, the speech he gave. Old soldiers never die. They just fade away and went
Starting point is 00:05:54 through that with this head of the history department about why MacArthur as a soldier has a different meaning as a general than other generals, than Pershing and others that you and I talked about, Pat and Grant, on and on. What I think was most interesting is, and we tried to do this in the specials, we tried to find common themes between all these men. and probably what was the most common and most important theme was their ability to gain the respect of their troops. And we pointed that out. You talked about that just now about Grant and then in the Civil War with McClellan, McClellan's problem. But that was the common characteristic. How they did that through all the different generals is totally different. You know,
Starting point is 00:06:44 you think about somebody like Eisenhower and Patton couldn't be more juxtapose. Eisenhower and McCarthy, Arthur, very different personalities, but yet would become such amazing leaders. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot in there, and I want people again, it's on Tuesday tomorrow at 10 p.m. News Nation. So just a quick question, the book, pretty impressive, Leland. You know, I'm glad it's out. I'm glad it's out, and it's an excellent Christmas and a holiday gift because it gives hope to so many people who have children. not only with autism, but other learning disabilities. And people, parents need to have perspective.
Starting point is 00:07:27 When you did the media for the book, it was mostly friendly media, nobody was mean to you, right? No, I think that's what's so amazing, right? Bill is I did everything from you and Steve Bannon all the way through Joe Scarborough for Born Lucky, talking about the story of my dad when I was diagnosed with autism, adapting me to the world rather than the world to me. And you talk about finding a topic in America right now that Joe Scarborough and you and Steve Bannon can agree on and almost come to tears at different times talking about it has been this story of Born Lucky. And you said it's a message of hope.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And I appreciate, Bill, you're talking about how it's been a bestseller. And thank you to anybody who's come on this journey with us and bought the book. But to me, what has been most important about the reception is the emails and the letters and the phone calls and the. text messages and the social media posts from hundreds, if not thousands of people I've never known thanking me for telling them and showing them that they're not alone. Thanking me and telling them that there is hope for every parent of a kid. Yeah, that's the key to it. All right, the book is born lucky and I will see you at 9 p.m. Eastern tonight for the Leland Vitter program on a news nation. All right. So I'm sure you saw the Bill Maher stuff with me.
Starting point is 00:08:47 and we're going to run a little bit of that in about two minutes here. We run a little bit of it tonight, too. Yeah, that was a pretty interesting back and forth. All right, Lee, Lynn, we'll see you tonight. Thanks, taking the time. You're listening to the No Spinoos Weekend Edition. Today is Veterans Day, all right? Now, this is very close to me.
Starting point is 00:09:11 So if you follow my career, you know we raised more than $30 million dollars for the independence fund they provide a track chairs high tech wheelchairs for severely injured vets in Iraq and Afghanistan 30 million independence fund no longer in business okay we got a track chair to every single vet who needed it with all that money coming in now there are other service people who need help from Iraq and Afghanistan. These are contemporary wars. In Iraq, Americans lost 4,492 people. Okay, 32,292 wounded. That's a big number in Iraq. Afghanistan, 200456, killed 20,770 wounded, altogether more than 50,000 U.S. service people wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now, there is a charity that's doing a lot of good.
Starting point is 00:10:21 There are actually two. One is the Fisher House. Okay, but we're not going to do that today, but that's a good charity. The other is Semperify and America's Fund. Thefund.org is how you get to them. All right, so they help severely wounded vets and their families in a variety of ways. And one of the men that they've helped is Marine Sergeant Zachary Stinson, who joins us now from Chambersburg, Pennsylvania. So it's good to see you,
Starting point is 00:10:55 and I want to tell the folks about your personal story. I'll start it off and then I'll ask you some questions about it. Okay. So at 18, you enlisted in the Marines. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Why did you enlist? Because I like working out. You just wanted a free gym to go to. No, but why really did you enlist in the Marines? Because I didn't want to go to college to start my life out in debt.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I wanted to be the best, so I had talked to enough people that said the Marines were the way to go, so that's why I did it. Okay. So at 18, you're not fully formed emotionally, but to go to the Marines, or you're not fully formed emotionally. go to the Marines is usually a very positive experience. Three years later, you sent to Afghanistan, right? Is it three years after you did boot camp? Yes, sir. Okay. And you're on patrol in Marja, Afghanistan. Where is Marja? Southern Helmand Province, Afghanistan. And you're out there with the guys, and you step on an IED, a mine, and you get your legs severely injured, right? yes gone okay now you didn't know that at the time you just got concussed and boom all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:12:16 you're back in the states with two legs that are severely you as you put it gone 25 surgeries is that correct uh roundabout yes i i really don't know the actual number it was that many though oh yeah yeah that or more and what did the surgeries do for you? A lot of it was wash out, just cleaning out the injury. A lot of dirty bombs over there just because of the dirt. But and then everything was else just trying to get function back, trying to get my legs, trying to save as much of my leg as they could. I had my eardrum blown out. I had my pelvis smash. So just getting functionality in those parts of my body. All right. So you go through this ordeal, but then
Starting point is 00:13:06 You also develop a plan to get yourself back into top shape. Tell us about that. Yeah, so I realized one day I looked in the mirror and I was like 220 pounds. And it's just not as easy without legs, just getting up and going for a run or anything like that. So I had to find something that would work. So I grew up as a gym rat, so I hit the gym. then also tried to find a form of cardio and eventually found that in hand cycling. So you got into cycling, and then you started to compete, correct?
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yes, sir. Yeah, I've done, I started out in marathons. I went over to triathlon for a little bit, and then since 23, I've been competing internationally for parapsicling as well as a member of Team USA right now until January. And you could do all this because of the technology, the medical technology that even though you didn't have legs, you had enough medical procedure in you that you could function. What level would you say you were functioning at or are functioning at now? I mean, functioning at now, I don't know. I like to think more positive that I'm around 80%. Being just having the ability to be physical, though, is such a huge aspect. of it. People, especially being in a wheelchair, it's really easy to become sedentary and then just
Starting point is 00:14:41 kind of roll over and die. So it's just being active and staying active. All right. And you do that through the cycling. You get married and have two girls, right? Yes, sir. That is in itself an unbelievable situation. And do you attribute anything to your family life that goes over into your competition and your overall life? Yeah, yeah, I do attribute that. My kids never knew me as a Marine,
Starting point is 00:15:20 and I was a pretty good Marine, but they need to see me getting up and doing something. So cycling is that for me. They see me putting in the work, in the bike, doing all the training, and then eventually having the competitions and where I have the final result are things. But they see the process of everything, even though my job doesn't look like it used to, just pushing through and still working out and being active. Okay. You're 35 years old now. What has the fun.org done for you specifically? So, well, the track chairs, they actually were one of the first ones to get me a track chair back in, like, 2014, I think.
Starting point is 00:16:04 It was very early. They helped me with anything from bike equipment to honestly putting a fence in my backyard so my kids can play and everything in between. They go much more than just what they've done for me. There's a lot more like neuroptherapy and other things that really don't apply to me at this current time. But they've got a little bit of everything. And they stay with you till you're dead, right? It's lifelong. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So they were one of the first people to reach out whenever I got injured and was at the hospital. They made sure my wife was taking care of any of my other family members down in Maryland because we didn't know how long we were going to be at the hospital initially. So they took care of my family there whenever I couldn't. And then they've been with us ever since. And it just doesn't stop. And you also know other vets, of course, that are in the fund.org's orbit. And all, we've checked you out, all have the same great experience.
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Starting point is 00:18:47 and that goes on top of the case manager I currently have, who I'm in contact with constantly. And you know, because you were a Marine, how much the camaraderie helps and gives people support to get through the hardest times? Absolutely, absolutely. You've got to have a good support system. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the fund,
Starting point is 00:19:10 if it weren't for my family, and the supportive community. All right. So we wanted to bring you on and let everybody know about thefund.org if they want to help out. Tax deductible, of course, Veterans Day, the perfect time to help these guys out. And Sergeant, if there's anything that we can do for you or your family, and, you know, and for the duration, you let us know. We're here if you need us at all.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Greatly appreciate that. I did just want to make a note that the Bob and Renee Parsons, Foundation, along with PXG, are going to match up to $7.5 million for the fund until the end of the year. That's pretty generous, I have to say. Very, very good. The whole thing is a big positive for America from top to bottom. We wouldn't be involved with it if it weren't. Okay, Sergeant, thanks very much. We'll talk again. This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Join us now is one of the most astute economists that I know. His name is Alexander Green.
Starting point is 00:20:19 You know him because we have an association with the Oxford Club, and that's where he works. They are a paid sponsor for the No Spin News, and I have been with them for three decades myself, and they didn't know me. I think they thought I was O'Reilly Auto Parts when I bought my, subscription, but I stay with them because they made me some money. And Alex, it's a pretty good doc picker, but it's a tough game now, as you know. So Alex, I got, you got a book out. I want
Starting point is 00:20:52 everybody to look at it. It's called the American Dream, why it's still alive and how to achieve it. The American Dream, why it's still alive, and how to achieve it. But here in New York City, they just elected a communist mayor, and most of the people who voted for the communist mayor are under 40 years old, and they don't believe in the American dream any longer. Why has that happened? Well, it's a good question, Bill. I wrote the book. I started a year ago when I read the polls that showed two-thirds of Americans no longer
Starting point is 00:21:24 believe the American dream is attainable. And since then, it's gotten even worse. Now 70% of Americans don't believe that the American dream is achievable. And a lot of it has to do with what you mentioned, the negative. Relentless negativity of the mainstream media, and of course, what social media is even worse. And what they're doing with Mimdani is they seem to believe that the American dream is not an achievement, but some kind of an entitlement that you can go to the government office and pick up your American dream. It doesn't work that way. And you know, the funny thing is, Bill, when I was a kid, everything was free.
Starting point is 00:21:59 The meals were free. My toys were free. The parties were free. And all that meant was that somebody else was paying for it. Nothing, nothing is free. And when so when Mondami offers all this free stuff, free education, free health care, free child care, he's really just saying that somebody else is going to pay for it. And I think a lot of young people who struggle, I struggle when I was young, I'm sure you did too, they want someone to help them out. But the politicians are not the answer to your problems.
Starting point is 00:22:26 You live the American dream by working, living within your means, saving regularly, investing those savings at higher levels of return, and then letting it compound over a period of time. And that's how you afford to live the life of your dreams. Yeah, but that's not taught in public schools. No, it's not. It's not telling. In fact, so if you go through the public school system, you are never going to hear how to achieve the so-called American dream. There are no classes on it. They don't, most of the teachers don't even believe it. And then if you come home and your parents are, you know, not doing very well, struggling, then you will get cynical
Starting point is 00:23:12 and say this whole system is fixed for the rich. This is what Bernie Sanders peddles. And I can't succeed. How do you persuade people who believe that? They are wrong. But you begin by telling the truth. When they're talking about, in school, especially in college, that capitalism, free markets, is all about greed and selfishness and exploitation. All it takes is one minute of plain talk to dispel these notions. Well, who's going to do that, though? You see that? It's a track. I know you do, and I do. And there are people voices that are saying this is what it is. But they seem to be outnumbered, Alex. by the people, particularly the teachers' unions, that are so far left, they're telling
Starting point is 00:24:13 the urchins, hey, we got to go socialism because the capitalists are greedy and look at this, that, and the other thing. I don't know how to overcome that. Yeah. Well, it starts with realizing that socialism has been tried multiple times, has never worked anywhere, any place, at any time, capitalism means, all it means is you can have anything you want if you just provide enough other people what they want. That's why every time you walk into a store, you hear, how may I help you? And when they leave, you hear two thank you. You say thank you because you want the merchandise more than the money. The merchant says thank you because they want the money more than the merchandise. And really, the capitalist system is the
Starting point is 00:24:58 greatest any poverty program and wealth creator of all time. And you talk about what the media reports. What they don't report is, we live in the most meritocratic nation on earth at the greatest time in history to be alive. The human lifespan is more than doubled in the last hundred years. Our standards of living had never been higher. Educational attainment in this country has never been greater. More people with a high school diploma, college diploma, advanced degrees. Air and water quality has been improving for decades. U.S. household income and net worth is at all-time record high. The stock market is at a record high.
Starting point is 00:25:33 How, if the economy is terrible, is the stock market an all-time high? Is everybody just delusional except Democrats who are running for office? Well, I mean, it's a look ahead, though, on some of them with AI coming in and Bitcoin and all this. So the stock market, I don't think, is a real good indicator of how people live day-to-day. I do think it's an elevator to wealth, but boy, you've got to be careful. careful on that. So the American dream to me, and I don't know if it coincides, I'm halfway through your book with you, is independence. And you're right. When I got out of Boston University with a master's degree in broadcast journalism, I had zero money, nothing. I had a bar to put gas in my
Starting point is 00:26:21 car to drive from Boston to Scranton, Pennsylvania, where I got a job that paid me barely minimum wage, but I was happy to be able to start and I worked my way up. It took me 10 years to buy my first property, which was a condominion by Giant Stadium in New Jersey. But I saved for it. I wasn't looking for somebody to give me rent control or this or that. I just saved my money. And then I was successful in my career. I worked extremely hard, as you know, and you did the same, and then built up where I can live very comfortably and protect myself from the evils of the world because I have resources. That's the American dream to me. Am I missing something? No, that's exactly the American dream. And I think a lot of these young people, Bill,
Starting point is 00:27:17 they can't do exactly what they want, and so they don't work. When I was young, I thought, not what do I want to do, but who needs something done that I might be able to do for them? It's about putting yourself in service to other people's, other companies, and eventually you gain the skills to do the kind of jobs you want and earn the kind of income you want and live the kind of life you want. But when you're starting out, the idea of following your dreams initially, no, you need experience. You need job skills. And to get ahead, you have to have those things in order to live the kind of life you want to live. So I started the same way, Bill. No, no money, no great skills, no connections, no great prospects. But I always believed that I would somehow achieve the American dream.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And that's what's so tragic about this 70% figure. Don't even believe it's attainable. I've never wasted a minute working toward any goal I didn't believe was realistic. And so when these kids, and it is mostly kids who are the most pessimistic, these young people are so pessimistic. about their outlook, it really is self-defeating. Because if you don't believe that the American dream even exists, why would you strive to achieve it? Okay. The advantage that you and I had, and I'm a little bit older than you, is that our parents were in, mine were, the depression
Starting point is 00:28:40 as children, and then World War II, where sacrifice and deprivation and realistic expectations, that's the key, were what was taught. So they didn't have this, well, how come I don't have a boat? How come I don't have a Mercedes? How come I'm not living in Park Avenue? I'm living in Levittown. And my parents are satisfied with Levittown, okay? Because they were scared.
Starting point is 00:29:07 There'd be another 1929 stock crash. So they didn't take a lot of chances. Now, that was the downside of the expectations that were minimal. All right? That's where we grew up. Now, a lot of parents cater to these kids. They get everything they want, as you pointed out, free everything, and they're coddled, and then all of a sudden they're out in a real world going, where's my $250,000 job?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Right. Because they weren't taught that you've got to sacrifice. You've got to work hard. It takes a while. That's what the system is. I think that's the key to it. Well, they're comparing themselves to people on social media. They're looking at highlight reels of other people's lives and not realizing that their own
Starting point is 00:29:57 situations are going to change. The difference between my net worth and my 20s and my net worth today is night and day. There's huge economic inequality between me in my 20s and me today. And that's the norm. You work, you save, you invest, you compound the money instead of spending it along the way. end up with the kind of net worth that can allow you to have the assets to live the life that you dreamed of life. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:26 But it's got to be a strategy. And again, that strategy is not taught enough. Last question, because you are a stock picker. I'm a little worried about this market now because it's all-time high. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. Breakthrough the busiest time of year with the brand new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus, powered by Peloton IQ. With real-time guidance and endless ways to move,
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Starting point is 00:31:11 Save up the 50% November 13th to 20th. Conditions apply, details online. And you got all. All the speculative money coming in with the AI stuff, all these companies are roaring. I've seen it before. And I got stops at your, you know, stop is I put on a stock that has profit for me, 20%, something like that down, and automatically, when the stock goes down,
Starting point is 00:31:38 it hits it, it sells. So I'm protected in that way. But I'm not buying right now, Alex. Uncautious. Am I wrong? You're not wrong, Bill, but by every objective measure, the market is very expensive right now. The S&P 500 sells at about 24 times earnings versus long-term 16 times earnings. There is kind of an AI craze going on.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Some companies are going to prosper. Other companies are going to fail. And there's the craziness in meme stocks and crypto and whatever shows that a lot of animal spirits are on the loose. And it's inevitable. We will have a correction and another bear market at some point. point. And it's okay. If you've diversified and you're asset allocated and you run trailing stops, as you mentioned, you're protected. But trees don't grow to the sky and the stock market's not going to continue going up like it has been forever. So we've enjoyed some big gains this
Starting point is 00:32:32 year, but I think it's going to get chopier and a little tougher going forward. All right, Alex. The book is The American Dream, Why It's Still Alive, and How to Achieve it. Alex Green, you can get it anywhere. And we appreciate it. Alex, we'll talk again soon. And if you get any inkling of something that you don't like in the economic system, let us know right away, okay? I'll give you the call. Thanks for having me on again. Okay, sure. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So there's a congresswoman from New Mexico named Melanie Stansberry. Roll it. Secondly, whether or not Virginia Joufrey has accused the president of wrongdoing, what I'd like to say to the
Starting point is 00:33:16 the American people is believe your eyes. We have all seen the photographs of Donald Trump with underage girls sitting on his lap. There are no photographs of Donald Trump with girls on his lap. So either Congressman Stansberry is lying or she got faked out by some AI thing or whatever. There are no photographs.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Now, the House Ethics Committee should absolutely drag her in and say what to do so you're doing. Second, a guy named Rick Stengel, Trump Hater. He used to be a journalist, then he was a Democrat, whatever. Roll him. I mean, the idea that he calls it a hoax, and all day long people can watch on television them leering at girls at parties and things, it's like, well, gee, it's not a hoax. So I think it has legs, and it should, and it is the sort of thing that could
Starting point is 00:34:15 undermined the basis of his presidency. Again, it's not true. There's no evidence of the president leering in anybody. Now, you would think that the news agencies that put these people on, CNN and MSNBC, would challenge now because they don't care what happened. They want to get Trump. finally there was a very disturbing x file from eric swallwell you remember that name probably the worst trump hater in the country represents california he says quote the government was shut down for 40 plus days to protect don't trump people weren't paid credit was destroyed tenants were evicted all because pedo protector mike johnson
Starting point is 00:35:08 sought to shield Donald Trump, but it's coming out now, pray for these women, Trump, Epstein, terrorized. Now, if I'm Donald Trump, and that goes out on X, I sue Swalwell. But do I win? So herein is the complication of living in the United States of America. Join us now. Rebecca Rose Woodland. She is a New York attorney, very well thought of, been on his program before. So I come to you, counselor, and I say, Swalwell just said I terrorized underage women. I got a lawsuit? Of course you do. I mean, look, first we're looking at the President of the United States. So the standard for defamation, which this would be, is actual malice. It's a Supreme Court case. against the New York Times, against Sullivan, where when you're a public figure, that which is
Starting point is 00:36:12 published has to be proven to have been knowingly said or written in a false way or with reckless disregard for the truth. Both apply here. There's nothing in any of these emails that indicate President Trump terrorized one to any women. Nothing at all. All right, but let me stop you there. Reckless. disregard for the truth would probably have to be the standard because Swalwell would say, oh, I heard, I didn't, I went mal. You could prove Swalwell hates Trump. That's easy. You've been hating Trump for 10 years. But reckless disregard for the truth. Let's go back to the New Mexico Congresswoman who says there's a picture. There isn't a picture. Is that reckless disregard for the
Starting point is 00:37:02 truth? Well, the defense to defamation is absolute truth. So the Mexican congresswoman, I'm sorry, the congresswoman from New Mexico would have to show these photos. And what do the photos suggest? If there's a photo of his grandchild sitting on his lap, what's wrong with that? So we're talking about now a situation where she's implying these were sexual photos of underage women. So she would have to show sexually explicit photos of underage women on Donald Trump's lap. This is ridiculous. She can't show that. Of course not because if we, if that was happening, we would have seen that already. But she can say, here's what you can say. Oh, I saw it on the social media and it was probably AI, but I didn't know. Well, no. You have to, you have to,
Starting point is 00:38:00 To say something like this against a sitting president or anyone in the public realm, you have to have belief that it is true. If you're just relying on something in social media, that is not enough. That is not enough. This has to be, you know, credentialed information, information that you sourced that you know for sure is real. Like I said, an underage woman sitting on Donald Trump's lap, it could be his grandchild. Now, so you're saying that the burden of the case, falls on the accuser, but that hasn't been the standard in America. If you're a famous person in the public eye, you don't have those protections.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Well, you have the protection of this New York Times v. Sullivan case, that if there is actual malice, and if Donald Trump can prove, which he may be able to, that the Congresswoman has malice towards him, intentionally stated things in such a way that would create misconceptions. That is intentional disregard for the truth. Okay. You cannot spin the truth to make it sound bad. So how about CNN and MSNBC that puts these people on? They know, the networks know what they're going to say because that's always done there.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's called a POV point of view. they know they're going to come on and rip Trump up. Can you drag them into court in the same case? Sure, for actual statements. Not just overall, they have the right, we have a First Amendment right, to have beliefs about the president that don't align with the president. But on specific statements that are knowingly stated incorrectly, false statements or with But they didn't make them, the guest made them.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Well, then the guest can be brought into court. Okay, but we've established that, counselor. My question is, can you then drag CNN in a separate lawsuit or MSNBC to them as well as the perpetrators of what was said? Like on X, that's where Swalwell put this garbage. Can you drag X in? Well, we can't drag X then because X's, X did not make the state. They just allow for a forum of interaction the same way they allow other views. If there was evidence, though, that MSNBC or CNN knowingly contributed to these statements
Starting point is 00:40:37 that the host or network brass were encouraging statements like that. No, that would be a hard lift. You're not going to get that. So under the First Amendment, the CNN and MSNBC would be protected because it wasn't their personnel saying it. Do I have it right? Yes, I mean, but we did see with, you know, ABC and the situation that happened
Starting point is 00:41:03 where one of their hosts dated that President Trump was a rapist. Yeah, they said... But they worked for ABC. And these people don't work for, they're just guests. So it was a difference there. Right. All right, counsel, I think I have it.
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Starting point is 00:42:42 All right? And he and I go way back to. The first time I did commentary was at WCVB TV in Boston, and Balboni was a news director, and I think he had a heart attack. What did I got on? But now he runs Global Post Media, and that is our foreign policy-go-to operation. So you want to know why I'm so smart about foreign policy? Because I read them every morning.
Starting point is 00:43:16 He joins us now from Cambridge, Massachusetts. So that was quite the lead in Balboni, right? Did I nail it? It was indeed, Bill. So good to see you and hear from you again. How are you? I'm the same, which is tragic for everybody. But I want to talk about your coverage, your foreign coverage.
Starting point is 00:43:33 So I've noticed on the Global Post website, which I get every morning, you're doing a lot of African coverage. Why? Well, it's a very important place. Believe it or not, and I think the things I particularly wanted to highlight to your viewers is the threat of global jihadism, which, believe it or not, has not gone away. And actually, the heartland of jihadism today is really in Africa, right across the continent from West Africa, Central, East, and Southern Africa. Al-Qaeda is still there, Islamic State is there, and there are other groups aligned with them. It's a great threat to this country,
Starting point is 00:44:30 and unfortunately, the U.S. has pulled back its military and special ops forces from much of the continent, which is allowing these groups free a reign than they've ever had before. France was a big colonial power in West Africa, But they have also withdrawn. That's because it's so chaotic in those places. There's no central government, which is why the jihadists are rising. They did the same thing in Somalia. There was recently a big story from President Trump saying, look, in Nigeria, which is
Starting point is 00:45:08 an amazingly complex country, not a strong central government, the jihadists are killing Christians. And the Christians in the interior of the country don't have any protection. And Mr. Trump is saying, look, if you're going to stop this, we're going in. How did you assess that story? Well, I mean, I think it's accurate. The Nigeria is, you know, for probably 20 years now, has had a rising problem with Islamist militants in the north of the country, which is primarily Muslim. The Christian population is more in the south of Nigeria and also in the central areas.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And it's absolutely true that they have been subject to attack, but so haven't Muslims in the north. So it's really the government has just failed miserably to get a handle on this problem. I mean, there is an army in Nigeria. We have provided support and aid to them, but they have not corrected this problem. And, you know, it is getting worse.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And it needs to be addressed. Okay. But Nigeria is only one of many countries where these problems. No, but it's an enormous country. And Lagos has got the oil and all that. And so it's probably going to be the headline. I don't think Mr. Trump's going to go in there because it's a morass.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You can't get out. You can do special forces and you can do operations, but you just can't. It's too much tribalism. I mean, that would be a disaster. You'd think Afghanistan was bad. Africa's a thousand times worse as far as logistics are concerned.
Starting point is 00:46:53 The other stories that you're concentrating on is the debt, the growing global debt, people's eyes glaze over. We owe $38 trillion here. But this debt thing is everywhere, right? Oh, absolutely. I mean, the increase in the increase in the debt in the United States and around the world is really unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I mean, the total global debt is 25% higher today than it was, even as recently as the COVID-19 pandemic, when it was already at an all-time high. What's the threat there? What's the specific threat with this outer control debt? What could happen? The threat bill, and you have to kind of combine where we are in the stock markets and the high valuations and, you know, these crazy numbers being given to technology stocks, AI stocks, is that something will trigger a panic, if you will, and that people will head for the exits. and it will bring down our economy because we have less ability to address the kind of thing that happened in the Great Recession, where the Federal Reserve was able to step in, lower interest rates, and eventually things, you know, corrected over a number of years.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Now, because the U.S. government has such enormous debt, the ability to step in and fix a problem, that happen in the markets, the financial markets, is so much less. I mean, the servicing of the United States debt is $1.2 trillion a year, right. And I don't want to eject politics in this, but I have to hear. So the Democratic Party, though, just wants to spend and spend and spend and spend. I mean, that's what this government shutdown was all about. We've got to spend more, more, more, more, more, more, more. And, you know, I'm sitting here, I'm not a party guy, as you know, but I'm going, there's got to get some restraint, there's got to be put back into USA spending. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:49:17 No, you're not wrong. I mean, common sense, what every average American family knows is there's only one way to get out of a debt problem. You spend less and you have to bring in more income. That's it. That's, that's it. That's the basic kitchen table economics. But the American people, they don't see it. I know they don't see it because you couldn't be supporting the mandonis of the world and all these other if you did see it. All right, Phil, you have a special for NOSPA News, watchers and listeners. What is that special? So for the last year, we've been offering all new subscribers to Global Post, 50% discount for O'Reilly, members, they're the only people on the planet that have this opportunity because of our long
Starting point is 00:50:09 friendship and relationship. Well, thank you. So it's Global Post. We appreciate your support. No, I mean, it's a good vehicle. I mean, I'm so busy. I don't have time to wade through the propaganda, which is what American media is now. But you guys give it to me straight, and that's what I need.
Starting point is 00:50:28 So it's globalpost.com. If you're an O'Reilly, watch her listener, get 50% off. It's a really good deal. Absolutely. Okay, Phil, thanks a lot. Really appreciate it, as always. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member.
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