Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - November 18, 2023

Episode Date: November 18, 2023

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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. So Hunter Biden is going to appear before the House Oversight Committee on December 13th. Nice Christmas gift for him. James Biden, President's brother, on December 6th, and a guy named Rob Walker on November 29th. Walker is a business associate of the Bidens. Now, to me, I would take the fifth, okay, if I'm under Biden walking in, because if you lie, all right, that's a felony. But I guess, I don't know. I can't imagine them testifying, but we will see. Joining us now is a woman who is following very closely for the Washington Examiner.

Her name is Kaylee McGee White, coming to us from Washington, D.C. She runs the Restoring America branch of the Washington Examiner. So what are the odds they take to fifth, Ms. White? I think pretty high because, as you say, it would be a felony if they're found perjuring themselves before Congress. And they're going to be asked some really pointed questions that the Republicans have been longing to ask for several months now, which is, what services did you provide to these four?

foreign businesses in order to justify earning hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time. And again, House Republicans have tracked down the money trail in regards to this. They have bank documents proving that Hunter Biden specifically earned a $400,000 check from a Chinese energy company. But again, it is not clear what service he provided in order to earn that. So how does Hunter Biden answer that question without either perjuring himself or exposing that this was part of a larger Biden family influence paddling scheme. All right, but if he takes a fifth and it's all moved because no, you're not going to get any

answers. You could ask the question all day long, but Americans who follow this kind of a thing, and I would say I put that number at about 40%, 60 don't care or too lazy to follow it, they're not going to, you're not going to be able to advance the story other than making the Jim and Hunter Biden look foolish, correct? Correct. But, I mean, I think that what you said at the beginning of the program is, correct. Biden's not going to be impeached. The House is not going to vote to impeach Joe Biden.

The Senate certainly would not vote to convict him. So the reason that House Republicans are pursuing this investigation as they are is really, I believe, it's to help Republicans' chances in the 2024 election and also to give the public the information that they were deprived of back in 2020 when the media launched a concerted effort to squash any reports about Hunter Biden's business dealings in Joe Biden's alleged involvement. But again, I don't think that House Republicans would ever vote to impeach Biden. Why would they not? Because more information is going to be coming out about Joe Biden. And already we know that he received a $200,000 check from his brother, Jim, and now they say it was a repay of a loan, but they can't back up when the

original loan was. I don't know about that. I think that they may go for an impeachment. impeachment vote, might not get it, but you say they're going to err on the side of caution if they don't think they have the votes, they won't put it up, right? Right. They're not going to put up an impeachment and embarrass themselves by not getting unified support from their own caucus. And again, this is a Republican problem. They should vote to impeach Joe Biden because it's very clear that he was involved in some way.

But Republicans can't even gather together to choose who they're going to have a speaker. Okay, and you think that they're going to be unified in order to impeach the president of the United. It would be hard to think of any Republicans sitting in the House right now that would vote not to impeach Biden when all of them are up next November. That would almost be like ending their career, would it not? Well, I think that it depends on how you view the impeachment process. In many of these swing states, impeachments of any president in the past, including the impeachments of, President Trump were politically unpopular among voters because voters don't tend to like defyceive actions.

So if Republicans view this as a liability moving into their tough elections, they're going to vote with the Democrats. Well, it's a good point. They might chicken out because of selfish reasons. Last question for you, based about what you know, and you know a lot. Do you believe that Joe Biden as vice president and then after he left that office was totally aware of this big grift of $20 million coming in based on his name? Do you, Kaylee McGee White, believe that as an American?

Yeah, I believe that he was aware of it the entire time. You don't set up 20 shell companies. you don't use dozens of anonymous pseudonym email accounts to correspond with your son for any purpose but nefarious activity there was a very concerted effort by joe biden himself to cover up what he was discussing with hunter biden and hunter biden's business partners so the idea that he was not aware where this money was coming from or what his son was doing in order to make it is ridiculous do you think that he derived money from the grift that he actually he and jill benefited financially from that?

Yeah, I do. Again, the $400,000 check that Hunter Biden received from C.EFC, which is the Chinese energy company, Joe Biden ended up getting $40,000 in the form of a check from James and Sarah Biden. Now, we know from one of Hunter Biden's past business associates that in that energy deal, it was promised that there would be a 10% cut for the big guy, which many believe to be Joe Biden. 40,000 is 10% of 400,000. I see it impractical that he would not have personally benefited from this. Now, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. No, you can't say it isn't. But two things

are going to happen. Number one, the corporate media is going to ignore this story almost entirely, no matter what it is, unless there's a criminal indictment against Joe Biden on this issue. And number two, they're going to ratchet up the Trump as Hitler stuff, which you're hearing about it now almost every day, Trump is Hitler, hoping that, you know, that will diminish any kind of grift that Joe Biden took place in. Last word. Yeah, I think you're exactly right. The media is not going to cover this. They're going to continue to go after Trump. But also, you're going to hear more comments like the one that we heard from Governor Gavin Newsom a few weeks ago when he was asked about this.

scandal, he said, well, I hardly think that influence peddling is that unique in Washington. And that was meant to excuse or justify the Biden family proffing from Biden's influence. So this is the excuse that they're running with now. Okay. We appreciate it. Ms. White. Thank you for taking the time to help us out. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford

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Ask your smart speaker to play the NY Postcast podcast. Listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I wanted to get the best expert, as I always do for you guys, to talk about President Biden's foreign policy outlook. And the best guy in a country, in my opinion, humble opinion, is a former senator from Connecticut, Joseph Lieberman. He's not an ideologue. He got tons of experience in the Middle East. He knows China very well. Senator, thanks for helping us out here.

What I want to know first is overall, Israel Hamas, is the Biden administration handling it well? What grade would you give them? Yeah, it will great to be with you and thanks for your kind words in introduction. So I guess I'd give them a B plus. Both these are two real challenges to our security, American, to world security and to our values, the Hamas attack on the Israelis, which is really Iran that hates us and hates Israel and really hates the Arab countries as well. And of course, Putin's invasion of Ukraine. So I would say President Biden's administration have taken a strong position supporting both the Ukrainians

and the Israelis. Why does it be plus? I think with the Ukrainians, we could have given them some better military system sooner with the current situation in the Middle East. Of course, everybody, nobody likes to see innocent civilians in Gaza being hurt or killed as a result of the Israeli effort to destroy Hamas. But that's Hamas's fault. And I just don't think we should pressure our allies in Israel to cease fire or stop the fight. So maybe they could be a little less than that from the administration. But overall, the president's restated American leadership in the world.

And that's important. And not everybody on Capitol Hill agrees with that. So it's doubly important. Okay. Were you surprised at all of the demonstrations, particularly at the universities, against the state of Israel? Did that surprise you? Yeah.

It's not just the demonstrations because maybe it could fix it. that because there's such a leftist influence on college campuses, but the size and the intensity of it and the terrible hatred, not just sort of anti-Israel, but in some cases pretty clearly anti-Semitic. And to a certain extent, anti-American. It makes me think that some radical left-wing groups infiltrated those pro-Palestinian demonstration with tearing down American flags, you know, and burning and whacking, not only Netanyahu, but Biden as if they were pinatas. That's awful stuff. And it doesn't speak for the American people, but it sends out a terrible message from American college campuses. Yeah, and you get

Harvard, MIT, and the top schools in the country basically justifying it by not taking any action against the anti-Semites and the destructive people. It basically let it go. And did that surprise you? Well, it did, but frankly, not as much because I've watched that happen on college campuses. Too many of the administrators try to please everybody. And, you know, a university has to be a place of truth where you teach truth and learn truth. And in these cases, you just can't please everybody. Some people are just plain wrong. And a president of a university should say that. If demonstrators are anti-Semitic, the president shouldn't

feel like, oh, they're going to make a wishy-washy statement. Everybody has a point here. No, not everybody does have a point. That's true. And it's your crew, not you, but you ended your political career as an independent, but the Democratic Party, my God. Now, I set this segment up by saying that the Xi Biden meeting is important for everybody in the world. You want to drop tensions with China if you can. But I don't

believe Joe Biden is in charge of this. I see it's Jake Sullivan and it's the Secretary of State Blinken. They'll be sitting next to Biden. They're pretty much calling his shots. You know the inside. Am I wrong? Well, I mean, Biden is the president, so it's up to him to assert the authority of the commander-in-chief, but there's no question that Jake Sullivan and Blinken are important to him. Look, I think the important thing in these meetings tomorrow between Biden and Xi is that we're coming in on a position of strength, and I hope President Biden understands it and reflects that at the table, which is to say our economy is in so much better shape than the Chinese economy. They're hurting of their own economic maladministration, but we're also hurting them with our

and they're going to need some help. And it's an opportunity not to rub G's face in it, but to reach some agreements. You know, there are competitors, there are challenges. They have a whole way of life and way of government that's totally different from ours. But the key here is we don't want to get in a war with them. We don't even want to get in a Cold War with them.

And it would be great if we can come out with some agreements from this meeting in San Francisco. Maybe the beginning of looking at some of the tariffs, see which ones are hurt both countries, and they take them off. But I'd like to see the Chinese admit that they have a role to play in cutting down the movement of fentanyl in our country. Yeah, that's great. Which they do.

And look, long term, this takes me back to 1972, Nixon Kissinger, when one of their main motivations for opening up relations with China was to separate China from Russia. And here again today, China gives a lot more heft to Russia, Iran, and North Korea than those devils deserve. And we've got to convince them that it'd be a lot better for them. Back off from that, right. It's amazing how history does repeat itself. Hey, Senator, always a pleasure to talk with you.

Thank you for taking the time. And I hope we can do it again soon. Thank you. Me too, Bill. Have a great day. This is the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean Spicer Show podcast, reminding you to tune into my show every day to get your daily dose inside the world of politics. President Trump and his team are shaking up Washington like never before, and we're here to cover it from all sides, especially on the topics the mainstream media won't.

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newsmakers, and even the president of the United States. These are the leaders shaping the future of America and the world. Listen to Podforce One with me, Miranda Devine, every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. You don't want to miss an episode. One person has been following all of this, the media, the situation in Gaza and all of that, is our pal Bernie Goldberg. He, obviously, as a Jewish American, has a very high interest in what's happening. And he's also, I think, one of the best media experts in the country. So Goldberg runs bernardgoburg.com.

And the reason that everybody should go there every day is very simple. It's bernardgolberg.com. The more you go to Goldberg's website, the less he's out of the house. You want to keep him contained in the house. And he joins us now from Florida. Okay. That was a good one. I always work on the leads.

Always work on the leads. All right. Middle East reporting first. Go. Let me make two broad points. The first one is, in the world of journalism, as you very well know, Bill. If it happened yesterday, it's old news. If it happened last month, it's ancient history.

So nobody's talking in the media. Nobody's talking about October 7th anymore. Now the story is about Israel's supposed war crimes. And that's exactly the story Hamas laid out. Here's how it starts out. What was their goal on October 7th besides to kill as many Jews as possible? They wanted retaliation. They wanted massive, deadly retaliation.

And they wanted, trust me on this. They wanted as many dead civilians as possible because they knew once the world saw that, once the world saw images of bodies being carried through the streets of Gaza, sympathy for Israel would dissipate. Israel would become the bad guys and the Palestinians. And even Hamas, even Hamas would become the victims. If this were a movie bill instead of a real-life war story, the writer, the producer, the director would all come from the ranks of Hamas

because they saw this coming, they wrote the screenplay, and the people who are carrying it out for them are journalists. One final point. Journalists overwhelmingly, again, you know this bill, are liberal. The younger ones are progressive. They sympathize with the so-called underdog. They think people of color are victims. Israelis are white people, so the coverage is going to tilt even in that direction against Israel.

Okay. Does that make sense? It makes sense. There is, though, look, if you go and you look at the coverage in Europe, it's different, far different, particularly in Great Britain, than it is here. So here, here there's a civil war about covering Gaza, and it has to do with the Democratic Party. So the Democratic Party is split about who the villain is. And now there's confusion on the part of the media, which almost 90% of it are Democrats. And they want to prop the party up.

But when the Democratic Party is split, there's confusion. How do you see that? Well, I think this is the biggest story that's not being covered. Franklin Roosevelt forged a liberal coalition about almost 100. years ago. Blacks, Jews, young people, progressives, liberals, that coalition is falling apart. You know, a New York Times poll came out recently, and I'm sure your audience is aware of one of the statistics that Donald Trump leads Joe Biden in five of six key battleground states. That's very important. Understandably, it's got a lot of coverage. But another number, 22 percent of

black people in those battleground states say they would support Donald Trump over Joe Biden. If 22%, if that number holds up, Joe Biden is going to have a tough time winning election. If you add that to the ones, the young people, the progressive people, the Jewish voters who are reliably democratic, then that means that coalition is cracking. It's bad news not only for Joe Biden. That's the least of it. It's bad news for the Democratic Party going forward. They would have a very tough time winning the White House for years and years to come if that coalition cracked.

And it's showing big signs of cracking right now. But I don't know if that's Gaza generated. I think that's economics that African Americans are really suffering. Yes, yes, but the young people, the progressive people, the Muslim, voters in Michigan, which is a key battleground state, that's Gaza-related. Okay. And final topic for you is the leadership at America's universities. So we are seeing now in Cornell, Columbia, Yale, Harvard, MIT, I could go on and on. The top universities in a country. No leadership at all on the college campuses. They let these anti-Semites run wild.

Yet if you were a MAGA person and you had a I Love Trump thing, you'd be in serious jeopardy on those campuses. And the presidents would not defend your right to do anything. You're absolutely. Right. So how do you read that? I mean, how did that happen? happen. Well, I can't top what you just said. You just nailed it. Let me add a few layers to it. Let's say students on those campuses weren't supporting the destruction of Israel, supporting Hamas, in effect. But they said they wanted a rally in favor of the cop who killed George Floyd. Do we think university presidents would simply say, well, it's a free speech issue and pretty much leave it at that.

What if Jewish students on a college campus got together and rallied and said, Palestinians don't have a right to exist, which is what the other side is saying about Israelis? Do you think university presidents would simply say, we believe in free speech, we can't get involved in that? So my question is, by the way, we know what they'd say. They'd say, shut it down, it's hate speech, it's not going to be allowed.

So my question, Bill, is, why are Jews different? Why is it okay to put Jews in the crosshairs? Why is it okay for Jews to be intimidated and pushed around on campus? I don't know the answer to that, but I do know before this conflict between Israel and Hamas, that all of the schools that I mentioned, their presidents, would have gone out of their way to praise Jewish groups because they're big fundraisers, right? A lot of Jewish alumni in all of those schools. And they would never have offended the Jewish people.

But now they have taken 10 steps back and say, no, no, no, it's not our responsibility to have fairness on the campus. Because they're going to let the radicals run wild. But the traditional people, you've got to shut up. Go ahead. Because they're afraid of the radicals. They are literally afraid of what the radicals might do on campus. But let me make one other point.

I'm pretty much a purist for free speech. I know this is going to sound controversial, but I'm not against nasty speech. I'm against it personally, but I don't want people banning nasty speech or even hateful speech. You know what I'm against? I'm against cowardly, pathetic. university presidents and other administrators who don't have the guts to say we're going to let you speak

we're going to let you speak but what you're saying is hateful and we despise what you're saying and you should be ashamed of you at least say that much right at least provide some context for a point of view that is based on facts and history

all right the website again is Bernard Goldberg one word dot com. Let's keep Bernie contained inside. So everybody go there. And, you know, always good to see you, Bernie. We'll have you on in a few weeks, okay? Good. Thanks, Bill. All right. Cheers. Here's a gem from the No Spin News Vault. Okay, joining us now from Northern Virginia is a legendary Newt Gingrich, Speaker of the House from 1995 to 98. You got a new book at, and you would be wise to check this book out. It plays right into what I was talking about. Defeating big government socialism, saving America's future. It's doing very well. You can get it everywhere, Amazon and

all bookstores. And it's a pleasure to have you back. Newt Gingrich. So in my monologue, did anything stick out? You want to scold me? Did I do anything precarious? First of all, I love your pride and your son and your commitment to his presidential race. And I thought, I'll remember that the rest of my life. I thought it was just great. And I think it was great that, you know, the three of you, with Sotomayor, could have that kind of a moment.

I mean, we need a lot more of America talking with itself rather than yelling at each other. I thought it was a great story. I liked your opening. Thank you. I agree with you on Ukraine. If the Russians continue to get a bloody nose and can't win, that sends a pretty powerful signal to China

that they are faced with Taiwan could be comparable in getting them bogged down. If we collapse and have lacked the nerve, then I think that could send a signal to China that's okay to invade Taiwan. The other thing I would say is that the grave danger of Biden signing a deal with the Iranians

I think, again, is in that same zone of things that could be really, bad. You pointed out that the Biden is signing this giveaway, which I think it's a fascinating case study. I mean, you know, the amazing number of Americans who didn't go to a four-year college don't owe student debt. They're out there. They're a farmer trying to pay off their tractor. They're a plumber trying to pay off their truck. They're a waitress going to work every day trying to earn money for their family. They're now going to pay taxes to pay off the debt for somebody who's going to have a much higher income than they do.

This is an inflationary step. It is a step which adds to our total national deficit. It's not a giveaway. We're simply transferring the burden from the people who got the advantage by going to school to everybody in the whole country as taxpayers. But it fits where the Democrats are right now. They are the party of big government socialism. They are committed to making all of us dependent on government. And if they had their way, government would run everything in our lives.

And I think that we need to recognize how sincere they are, how real this is. These people are not doing things because they're incompetent. They're doing things because they really believe in them. Well, I don't know how much Joe Biden knows of what he's doing or the big picture. You obviously worked with a number of presidents. You know them personally. and you know, you and Bill Clinton had a fairly respectful relationship, and that was one of the models that I used.

I had a respectful relationship with Barack Obama. I have with most, not Nancy Pelosi. I think she's a destructive force in this country, and I could never reach detente with her. But with most on the left, we have a respectful discourse. However, I think Biden is diminished, and I don't think he really understands the unintended consequences of what he does. possibly and have an open border. Yet he's being used and manipulated by the progressive left.

Do you agree with that? Yeah, look, I think Biden basically is an old-time ward politician who is a very young age, won a Senate seat in a small state, managed to keep getting reelected. I used to work with Biden. I don't think he's all that smart. But, you know, he's persistent. He's been out there a long time. I doubt very much if he knows much of what's going on or much of the ramifications of what's going on. He has surrounded

himself with very left wing and radical people. I think they basically run the place. I don't think anybody who seriously believes Joe Biden runs the place. And I think that when you watch him in public, you realize this is a very limited person

and he's doing the things almost overwhelmingly that the left wants. And you and Biden are about the same age. I want to point that out because, I mean, you know, you're pretty much on it, and he can't get three sentences out. Before we get into the media and their alliance, which you talked about on cable, I saw you, I think it was last week. Before you get to that, Jill Biden is like Nancy Reagan in a sense that she's a gay keeper. Jill Biden, a radical leftist, in your opinion?

I have no way of knowing, to be honest. I'm assuming that they probably died deep down. They've drunk the cool they've accepted they have a worldview now. They're surrounded by people who are radicals and they have a worldview where it all makes sense to them. I mean, I can't understand otherwise why it's as bad as yet. I don't think they're bad because of incompetence. I think they're bad because they really believe this stuff. I don't think two million people came in in the country illegally because of incompetence.

They want open borders. But how could you believe it? So you are converted, you converted to Catholicism, right? So Joe Biden makes a big deal about his Catholicism, and then he goes out, and he's the most radical president as far as accessibility to abortion and public funding of that, of any president of history of the United States by far, okay?

So that doesn't make any sense at all, and he's gotta know that his advocacy for abortion costs the lives of millions of unborn children. got to know that. Second thing is violent crime. He used to be, when you were speaker, the toughest SOB in the Democratic Party, put them away, lock them up, put them away. Now he doesn't want to put anybody away. He loves these radical left DAs. How can you, you know, how can a human being change that much? I know modification. All right. But abandoning all your principles, how does that happen? Well, you know, when Henry of Navarre,

decided to end the French war of religion, he converted to being Catholic. And his line was that Paris was worth a mass. I think Biden decided that being a radical was the price of being president, so he'd be a radical. And I think from that point on, he has been faithful to the left, done to surround himself with left-wing. Look at some of the people they appoint in this administration. I mean, there are people you couldn't have dreamed of 10 years ago ending up in public life. look at the values of some of these people

but that's where the Democratic Party is now and you go around the country you know how do they get so many votes in the House and Senate because they're a machine and if you're not going to be part of the machine as a moderate Democrat congressman found out in Oregon you're going to get beat in the primary yeah you're not going to get any money

right so you got to go along with it or you're earning out now part of the machine a big part of it is the corporate media. And the corporate media has now forged an alliance because, look, if you were just going by inflation, economy, open border, rise of violent crime, collapse to the U.S. airline industry, I mean, across the board, things are worse now than they were when Trump was the president. There's no, you can't argue it. It's insane. However, according to Real Clear and the generic vote,

half of the country says, you know, I'd still rather vote for this unbelievable incompetence and dangerous policy than vote for Republicans. It doesn't make any sense. Well, I'd look, we may, I'll be curious to see your reaction to this, but I've talked to a number of my friends who are pretty sophisticated pollsters. Almost all the polls the real clear politics is getting are junk. They oversample Democrats. They oversample people who aren't going to vote.

They're consistently wrong. And I wrote a newsletter recently at Gingrich 360 where I outlined that every the August of every election year, we go through the same cycle. They print phony polls. They try to depress us. People, for example, at Trafalgar, which is very accurate, or Scott Rasmussen. Rasmussen has us plus five on the generic. I think Trafalgar basically agrees with that. Insider Advantage.

Matt Towery basically agrees with that. So part of what you're getting here is just pure propaganda. 70% of the country is unhappy with Biden economically. Over 70, three out of four Americans believe we're on the wrong track. When you look at the undecided voters, they're overwhelmingly anti-Biden. They haven't yet decided they're going to vote Republican, but they're overwhelmingly anti-Biden. And you look at their internal views, they're almost certainly going to break three or probably three to one for Republicans. All right, so as it stands now, and I agree with your analysis, we here at bill o'Reilly.com, follow Trafalgar and Rasmus, because they're the most accurate, which they have been, they have a track record.

The others are ridiculous. So if you, well, here you are, right now, August 24th, you say Republicans win the House by a lot? Yeah. There's an outside possibility that Kevin McCarthy will become Speaker with the largest Republican majority since 1920, partly because they're so much stronger. I mean, remember, there are only four seats out of control right now. When we had to put together a majority in 1994, we had to pick up about 30 or 35 seats just to get to the majority. He's got to pick up four.

So I think they will get probably minimum 25, maximum 7. And you won't know until late October because these kind of landslides. I mean, I worked with Reagan and his people on the 1980 campaign, which turned into a landslide. I worked, as you know, in the 1994 contract with America campaign, which turned into a landslide. You don't, on these kind of landslides, you don't really quite know district by district, although I have to say Joe Gaylord, who was my partner, on September 17, 1994, was off by one seat. He took us through the whole country, district by district. He missed one seat.

We didn't count on beating Rostenkowski, the chairman of Ways and Means in downtown Chicago. Maybe a historic landslide in the House. Now, the Senate, more problematic. How do you see that? Plus four or plus seven. I just spent an hour and a half yesterday at the senatorial committee going through every single seat in the country. And I think we're very competitive everywhere. And again, it's the same phenomena.

When you look at Trafalgar's numbers for Ohio, for example, J.D. Vance is comfortably ahead. When you look at the numbers in Pennsylvania, it's a very close race. You look at the numbers in Georgia. It's a very close race. Now, when you get the Atlanta Journal Constitution's public poll designed to depress Republicans, then Herschel Walker has a bigger problem. But I remember in 1990, the liberal Detroit newspaper on the Saturday before the election, had John Engler losing by 19 points against the incumbent governor, and on Tuesday he won.

Now, he didn't make up 19 points over the weekend. The poll was just a lie. It was false. And we see this all the time. If you're a conservative, you have to assume that most of the news media is propaganda, and you can't allow it to demoralize you. Yeah, it's the independence that they're after. That's why they're doing this Trump, you know, scandal of the day. and all that. Final question. Your book, as I said in the beginning, defeating big government

socialism. It's an important book for people who want the best for their country to read on both sides, I think. What is the main takeaway that you want the reader to learn from the book? Well, I hope they will learn that the things that are causing us pain, whether it's high gasoline prices, high food prices, rising murder rates, you name it, are not. You know, incompetence they are a value system of big government socialism and that we can't just beat individuals we have to defeat the ideas and it's really based in part on Margaret Thatcher who set out in 1975 when she became the conservative leader she set out to destroy socialism and by the time she was done no openly left-wing leader has been prime minister of great

Britain in 40 years. I think we have to do the same thing. We have to get across the idea. It's not just these people aren't incompetent. They believe in a system that doesn't work that's going to bankrupt the country. It's going to leave us with children who are uneducated, a defense system that can't protect us, and criminals dominating our streets. And it's because they really believe in this stuff. I know. It's hard to fathom, but I know you're right. Anyway, that was a good interview. I hope you enjoyed it. If people, want to reach your enterprises, give us the web numbers and all that. Sure.

They go to Gingrich360.com. Well, I have to say, Bill, I always enjoy being with you. You always shoot straight from the hip. You are not in any way particularly biased or intimidated. And I never quite know how you're going to start the evening. If you had said to me, oh, we're going to talk about being in a suite talking to a Supreme Court justice while watching a baseball game, I don't think I would have bet on that. I usually don't know until about 10 minutes before airtime.

Anyway, it's good to see you. You're looking good. And I want to remind everybody that Biden and Gingrich is pretty much the same age. All right, so there you go. Good luck with it. And I hope we can talk again soon, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much.

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