Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - November 9, 2024

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

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Welcome to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So journey to now is one of our excellent analysts, John McLaughlin. He works for Donald Trump. He polls for the president and for Republicans, and he is in upstate New York. Okay, Margaret Hoover. She says Republicans like you are very worried about this. Did you tell Margaret Hoover you were worried? Do you know anybody polling for Donald Trump that might have told her that?

No, but, you know, her husband's running for Congress in New York One. He's probably going to lose tomorrow. Yeah, but that doesn't have anything to do with it. This guy's name is George Avlon. He used to work for CNN. He's a far-left grifter, in my opinion, okay? But that doesn't have any to do with. Hoover went on and said, oh, the Republicans are telling me.

Those in the no, those, you're in the no, you are the no guy. You're the pollster. Okay? Now, I want to get this clear. Did you tell Hoover or anyone that you were nervous about this election? No, the early voting is going very well. It's precisely the opposite of what she said. I'm just saying she's just saying that's all I want.

That's all I want. So the reason I'm doing this is to show the blatant dishonesty that is going around. Okay. So, you want to make a prediction or you want to put things in a perspective? What do you want to do? I'm letting you have the floor. I'm working my butt off to prove your prediction right because the early voting, I mean, the early voting in states like Arizona and North Carolina for the first time in history. And also in Nevada or North Carolina, Arizona. Those states, Republicans have come out heavier than the Democrats. It was first time in history by point. Republicans did that in North Carolina.

So, and most of the votes are cast in those states. Now, you still have Michigan and Wisconsin where they still have a heavy mail-in ballot that's favored to the Democrats, but far less than it was four years ago, and the same in Pennsylvania. So it's kind of cliche, but if we have a good turnout tomorrow, we're going to win this. And Donald Trump, when, you know, we'll be the president. All right. So how confident are you? I think the heavy turnout on the Trump end is a lock because the MAGA people and, you know,

it's personal now. I don't think that minority voters who might ordinarily go for Harris are going to turn out as much as they did four years ago. But the Trump people certainly mobilize. So let's assume that happens. 90% sure, 80% sure, where are you? Well, I think tomorrow if that happens, it's very high certainty.

But what I'm saying to you is, you're exactly right. The Trump people are more mobilized. Yeah. And the difference is the lack of enthusiasm for Harris, if you're an undecided voter tomorrow, go to the supermarket before you vote. It's like... Right. And you don't have to vote for president. This is in both situations.

Because the last poll said 60%, And this is my message of the day on Bill O'Reilly.com today. 60% of votes don't like either of them. So you don't have to vote for either of them. Just vote down a ticket. Right. Now, you're not. You have to vote.

You have to vote. You got to vote for the president. If you're a patriot or you love your country, you've got to show up. But you don't have to vote if you don't like either of them. Now, you don't do specific down market senatorial polling, do you? Yes. We've been polling with Dave McCormick. Carrie Lake. My brother Jim was my partner in the firm's

polled for them. Okay. So if Harris wins, what are the odds that the Republicans control the Senate, take the Senate? The Republicans are going to take the Senate because West Virginia, Montana, and Ohio

are already going a Republican. Jared Brown's going to lose in Ohio? You're sure about that? Pretty sure. Yes. And if if Donald Trump As we should, if there's a good turnout tomorrow, we will bring in more senators, whether it's Dave McCormick, who's running very well in Pennsylvania. You've got Eric Hubdy in Wisconsin, and you've got Mike Rogers in Michigan. And the Democrats were the ones a couple of weeks ago leaking the polls that Trump was ahead in those states.

Kamala Harris spent all day yesterday in Michigan because she's worried about losing Michigan. So, and then if Trump wins decisively in Nevada and in Arizona, he could bring in Carrie Lake and also Sam Brown. So it's kind of like a Ronald Reagan. Those of us who were old enough to remember 1980, when we voted for Reagan, got to vote for Aldamato for Center. We got to vote for, you know, they brought a break. Yeah, they call them coat tails. Final question for you. The mantra, I followed the.

media closer than anybody follows the media, I think, because I understand who's running it. I know most of these people. I know what they're doing. Okay? So the close in the television media, and I want to get your personal feeling on that, is that Kamala Harris's late-minute surge. All right, that you can just put on any network news, and that's what you saw. Even the Wall Street Journal, which the editorial page leans right, but the news pages lean left. You know what they had on page two today? The proud boys are supporting Donald Trump. What are there? Nine proud boys in this country? I don't know any proud boy. I don't know where they are, couldn't find them. Okay. But there's a big headline. Proud boys. And they're

fascists, these guys. Okay. That was what the Wall Street Journal. put at the top of their news cycle. So you can see, you know, how they're trying to manipulate the boat. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver. Thoreau, the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold.

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And it motivates our voters to get out. You know, a week ago, I spoke to President Trump, and I said to him, you know, at this point, Mitt Romney was ahead by a point. And then he ignored New York and New Jersey when Hurricane Sandy hit, and he lost his lead on Sunday Monday night to Obama and the polls by a point. And he had to lose him by four points. And Donald Trump's line to me was, I'm not Mitt Romney. He is busting his butt. As you know, no doubt. There's more states and more rallies than Harris. And our voter motivated. And We disregard the radical press because the liberal press has no credibility. The media research center said they have 85% negative coverage of Trump

and 79% positive coverage of Harris. So it's built in, and I hope there will be exit polling questions on it. All right, John, we really appreciate it. We'll get you back next week, I hope, for our post-mortem. And it's very kind of you, as I said, to help us out all throughout this. election. Thank you. We got the Republican side. Let's get the Democrat side and bring in Doug Shone, who is a Democrat political strategist, a legitimate one, not like Ms. Hoover, who is masquerading. Shone actually does work for some Democrats. He joins now from Miami, Florida.

You heard McLaughlin and me bloviating. I was bloviating. McLaughlin was brilliant, as always. Where do you see this going tomorrow? I see it going narrowly to Donald Trump. I look at all the data, the same data you and John reviewed. And I think basically the blue wall tilts, with the exception of Pennsylvania, to Harris, the Sunbelt states, I think, tilt, if not go, Donald Trump. And if I'm correct, that means that you've got four to two with Pennsylvania. a toss-up, and that's been holding steady or moving to Trump. But bottom line, Bill, I've seen this election as one that was Donald Trump's 10 days ago.

He did not close as well as he could have, and I thought Kamala Harris closed as well as a Democrat, under her circumstances, but I still see a narrow Trump victory. So you think Trump is going to win Pennsylvania? that'll put them over the top. Precisely, yes. Okay. When you say Trump didn't close, is it Trump's fault or was it the media really rolling out the Liz Cheney nonsense and, you know, everything they could contrive? Was that part of it or was it really Trump didn't do what he should have done?

Trump didn't do what he should have done. He made some unforced errors and rest assured the media magnified every mistake. and blew it way out of proportion. How big was the comedian at Madison Square Garden with the Puerto Rican stuff? That was huge because it broke Trump's momentum. He was going into that rally as a clear favorite. Everything was going his way.

That froze everything. And we had a two-day dialogue of just about that comedian and his set and the whole thing. But did Trump turn that? that to his advantage by the Biden garbage remark? It certainly truncated the negativity, stopped the bleeding, and so I give a qualified yes to that, but in politics, unforced errors are the greatest sin of all.

What could have Trump have done that he did not do? Well, first, if I was organizing that rally, I would have had a cast of one, Donald Trump speak. Second, I would have made it very clear that he is looking for a better and new future for America and been more optimistic and inclusive in his rhetoric. That being said, the real issue to me, Bill, is that Americans are very angry. They don't like Joe Biden. They don't like his policies. They feel that they are less well off than they were. And bottom line, want change. The change they want is for the Trump policies. They're just not sure they want

Trump, the man. Okay. Anything else that I brag, and I'm an idiot for doing it, but I do it because I don't know why I do it. I need to see a therapist. But I say if I were in charge of the Trump campaign, he'd be up by 10. I'm sure he would. Because I would have had him be more human. I wouldn't have played down, though, the border and the economy and the overseas chaos. I would have heightened that. I would have done it worse than he did it. But I also would have had him basically level, like NBC, and we're going to cover this in a moment, owes him a minute and a half after that kissy face with Kamala Harris on Saturday Night Live. So the federal government got involved. So you can't do that NBC. You got to give Trump the same minute and a half to say

whatever he wants. We can't figure out if Trump campaign even going to use that opportunity, which I definitely would have tonight on the Lester Holt program. If I were Trump, I would go, Lester, you sit there and smile. I got 90 seconds to say, whatever I want. That's what I would have done. Okay. And that would have been a huge story going into. the vote tomorrow, right? Bill, I couldn't agree with you more. I'm startled to hear that they have not done that. Yeah, I don't know.

I think Trump got his message out, just for the, we have obviously some Trump supporters watch this broadcast very closely. It's not for lack of message. He got his message out, but it's always been with him. meaner factor, particularly with women. And you believe that Trump will override that because of the issues. Is that correct? I do. This is an issue agenda like 1980, which John McLaughlin alluded to, where people are enraged with the impact of the Biden-Harris policies. If this election was a referendum on those policies and those policies alone, Trump would,

win by 10 or more. I agree with you. Trump, when he's humanized, and you know him better than I do, but when he's humanized, he can be a warm, approachable guy. We didn't see much of that Trump in this election. Okay, Doug, we appreciate it as always. Now you have the two best political analysts, in my opinion. McLaughlin is shown back to back, and we'll catch up with you. I owe your dinner. We'll catch you up with you. I look forward, Bill. Thank you for the pleasure and privilege of being proud with you. All right, Doug.

Thank you. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Joining us now from Oyster Bay, Teddy Roosevelt's hometown. If you ever get to Oyster Bay, go up there and see his house. Teddy has got a, you can get a tour. It's a national heritage site. His former Congressman Steve Israel, he owns a bookstore in Oyster, Mr. Bay Theodores, which I like, because it has my book, confronting the president, in the window.

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And yet you're right, confronting the presidents. It's in our bookstore. It's flying off the shelves. It's a great read, by the way. Congratulations on it. Thank you. One other thing I want to say, that was a very thorough unpacking. of the election. But of everything that you said, the thing that landed most beautifully on

my ears was that you're going to give better Christmas bonuses to your employees. And I just hope that, I hope it applies to your guests as well. So, that would be very nice. We don't pay our guests. I know. I know. At least something. I'll take you to Tabby's across the street from your book store. Best burgers on Long Island. Listen, I actually agree with more of what you said than I disagree with, surprisingly, perhaps. This is what I, this is what strikes me. This is what I think went catastrophically wrong for Democrats. And that is that we have lost the ability to assure hardworking Americans who are trying to pay their bills that they are our priorities. I think Chris Matthews was right. You know, when you campaign on a theme of

joy. Not only is that tone deaf, but it sounds as if you just don't understand what's happening in Americans' lives. There's somebody in Ohio or Wisconsin who's struggling to pay for gas, put their kids through school, save for vacation, and you're telling them that this is about joy. It strikes me as just not resonating. And so, for my party, as catastrophic as these results were, and they were catastrophic, I hope that we'll learn a tough lesson. Well, you've got to move back to the center. You can't be the radical progressive Bernie Sanders party. And I know where that's all the money, the Soros money, but you've got to get back to be in the old, the old time Democratic Party. I mean, you were a congressman. You didn't govern

you weren't a woke monster. You looked at the issue and, you know, and you said, okay, what's best? I'm glad to use that word, woke, because what my party needs to do is wake up to the fact that too many Americans and American voters just don't have the faith that they used to in our ability to provide them with economic security, to understand their everyday needs. And look, I never pretend to be the smartest member of Congress, although the competition wasn't always that stiff. But I know my history. When people feel like they lack economic security, they're not going to vote on issues like the markets. And you don't provide for them, though. That's where you guys in the Democratic Party make your mistake. You let them do it.

You get out of their way because they'll do it. You know, I got people working for me from Honduras, from Africa. They're all legal. They're here with green cars. They work their butts off. They don't want Washington giving them anything. And that's what the Democratic Party doesn't understand. This big colossus doesn't work.

You can't drag everybody through life. There's 330 million of us. Last word, Congressman. Look, I agree that we need to reevaluate our policies and our programs and make sure they were resonating. But it's also got to be – I mean, look, Americans want fairness, and it's got to be fair. And so handing out subsidies to the big corporations that don't need them, but then saying we're going to balance the budget on the backs of hardworking Americans, that doesn't land well, I – One final thought, if I can, Bill. Sure.

Look, if I'm the Republicans, I'm taking a look at the next midterm election. You know better than anyone, because you're a historian, that midterms are brutal for the president's party. And so my advice to Republicans, who don't exactly listen to my advice is, be careful, because if you go too far, the next election will discipline you. Donald Trump went 2014, 2016, Democrats won in 18. That's why I said that Trump's got to get off to a fast, start because Grover Cleveland, Trump's compatriot, had a disastrous second term. And Trump has got

to get and say, I said I'm going to do this, and he's got to do it. Hey, Congressman, we'll see you soon. We appreciate your expertise. Get the bookstore. Bye-bye. All right, let's get another point of view. Our pal, a Bernie Goldberg, the purveyor of Bernardgulberg.com. He's already going crazy on the website with all kinds of analysis about the election. joins us from Miami. I'd ask you the same question I asked the congressman. What's the big thing for you as an American, as a loyal citizen, from the vote?

Well, let's get the obvious out of the way. It was a rejection of the Biden administration. It was a rejection of inflation. It was a rejection of the border. It was a rejection of crime in big cities. but it was also a rejection of elite condescension aimed at, I used a term in the best sense, ordinary Americans. People have had enough of this. They don't want to be called stupid because they didn't see how great Bidinomics was.

They don't want to be called a bigot because they're against illegal immigration. They don't want to be called a transphobe because they don't think boys, biological boys, should be allowed to play on girls' teams. They don't want to be called garbage. They don't want to be called Hitler. They don't want to be called deplorables. They don't like Mark Cuban's analysis,

if that's the right word, that the only women that Trump likes to be near are stupid, weak women. They're tired of the whole thing. Now, I acknowledge that the bigger reason was the economy and the border. But Democrats will be making a big mistake if they don't understand the condescension factor. You know, people have had enough and they said, I'll clean it up, Bill. They said, screw me, screw you.

And I agree with that. But the Democrats really believe that. They believe that if you support Trump, you're a Nazi. I mean, that's what they believe. But let's get back to nuts and bolts. I was pretty surprised at Kamala Harris. It was an intelligent woman with such a terrible candidate. Just flat out refused to answer questions.

I don't know how she thought she could get away with that. But she was an awful candidate. Am I wrong? No, you're absolutely right. But I'll tell you why she thought she can get away with it. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this immediately. because they had liberal journalists were sitting there

while she and her allies, her surrogates, were making outrageous allegations against anybody who wore a red maga hat, and the journalist was sitting there like potted plants and nodding in agreement. If you have the media, weak as it is, weak as it's become on your side, you think you don't have to answer questions.

Not in this day, age, though, with the social media and operations like yours and mine, okay, having a reach that is into the multi-millions. And she, when you go on a show and the get, the interviewer, me, you, whoever it may be, ask you a direct question and you won't answer it. You're insulting, not only the interviewer, but the folks who are watching. Yeah, you're not only insured. Right. You're insulting them, yes. And they also pick up on that, not just the insult. They pick up on, wait a second, the person just asked you a question.

The person asked you, do you think it's a nice day out today? And you went to Word Salad City instead of saying, yes, it's a nice day out today. You said holistically, in terms of the weather, if we're talking about climate versus weather, shut up. Just answer the damn question. But she never got that. And here's the ultimate irony. We're going to do this heavy tomorrow on Thursday on the NOSBIN News. The media that despised Donald Trump, to an extent never before seen in America, except for Abraham Lincoln, that media has destroyed itself forever.

So Trump's revenge is no, number one, winning, getting power back, but number two, the fake news, he doesn't have to do anything else. They've destroyed themselves. Did you ever talk to Lincoln personally about that? Grant. Lincoln was a little bit before my time, but I got Ulysses into a conversation about it. You know, you've said this before, Bill, about how the media is finished itself. There's no question that their influence isn't what it used to be in the days of Walter Cronkite, or even Dan Rather in Peter Jennings. But how is it going, it's still going to be there.

It's going to be a shell of itself. That's right. A shell of itself. People are going. Right. But it doesn't matter. And all of the hierarchy at ABC, NBC and CBS are going to be fired by next summer. All of them are going to go.

You wait, mark my words. And it's a whole different thing now that when people want information, they're not going to go on to television news, and that includes cable. They're going to come to us. Because we're honest. I hope you're right, and I suspect you are. You know, if they go to you and they, you know, we have the numbers. You and I are not indebted to anybody but our audience.

That's right. I'm indebted to guys like you to come on and chat with me. I mean, there are some people who still refuse to do that. I think, Bernie, they just don't understand my charm. They just can't lock in on it, you know? I've always understood your charm, such as it is. Right, which is a deficit for you. All right, Bernie Goldberg.

I want everybody go to bernardgolberg.com. Look at his election analysis, certainly worth. doing that. Thanks, Bernie. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly.com. Sign up and start watching today.