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Episode Date: October 25, 2025

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What they're doing is unconstitutional. It's not fair. It's terrorism. Okay. So it's like, you know, the country's a fascist country now, and it's going down a drain, and no, no, no, no, no, no. Now, one column did catch my attention. It was written by Colby Hall, who we like here, for Mediite, which is a website, social media website, which analyzes what's going on in the press, so all the people in the press read it. Here's what Colby wrote about the march.

He goes, The marches are virtuous, showed moral clarity. when cynicism was easier. But virtue without strategy is performance, and performance without follow-through is paralysis. The crowd made noise. Now it has to make demands and back them with something more than Saturday's turnout, unquote. And Colby Hall joins us now from Brooklyn.

So the marches are virtuous. How do you know? Well, I didn't go, but judging by the people that I know, But what I meant by virtuous is that they were principal, right? All of them? Well, I don't know of all of them, but I think generally you can sort of, I'm sure, like the individuals that were arrested, they were, I trust that I believe in the authorities that arrested them for good reason. You know, you can take a thousand people and there's always going to be two or three nutters. Those nutters don't define the crew.

Yeah, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking, you say the marchers are virtuous. There are a lot of antifas out there. There are a lot of anarchists. They didn't misbehave, again, to their credit, on a mass level. There are a lot of people who want communism and socialism, the Bernie's bros. All of those people are virtuous. Come on.

Well, I'm just going to echo what you said earlier. I think what they did was patriotic, right? I mean, in as much. And look, I don't agree with everything that the sort of, organizers put forth, but the right to protest is constitutionally protected. And to your point, like for the most part, it was peaceful and principled. I don't know that there was a lot of Antifa. I'm giving you a hard time because I think you were too general in this column. So the margins of virtue is they showed moral clarity. So I don't think that letting 15 million foreign

nationals into this country, as Joe Biden did, is moral. I think it's immoral, all right? I think it destroyed... I would agree with you, but right, but I don't think... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And I don't think that watching 4,000, mostly African-Americans, be gunned down in the streets of Chicago is moral at all. Now, these demonstrators, Colby, I would say 90% of them, all right, don't want immigration

enforcement, and they don't want National Guard to go in, a mini holocaust in Chicago. They don't want it. How is that moral clarity? I don't think there's a mini holocaust going on in Chicago right now. I think there is crime. Absolutely, and it's been a problem, although it's been getting better. It's at a 60-year low.

I do think that I agree with you on the Biden administration failed immeasurably in the way that they handled the border so poorly. And I think that's, you know, he paid the penance of that by, well, Connolly Harris did, by not getting elected. I think that was a huge, huge issue. I don't think this protest was the Biden administration. And I don't even know you had the sound clip of the protester protesting ICE. You know, that's a complicated issue. I think that the way that the draconian way that many ice people, you know, remove people in masks without due process is critical. But I think the authoritarian things that the Trump administration are doing, you know, are, you know, are, you know,

you know, sort of eroding our Constitution. You know, the Hossi-combatanus does not allow federal troops. But the Supreme Court is going to hear that. They're going to hear that. And we should let that play out. But these people have already condemned Trump as being immoral, as being a fascist. They've already done it. And then you say they show moral clarity by doing it.

I disagree vehemently with that. Let me just talk. Well, I think patriotically. All right. That's you point. And that's okay. I mean, this is why we have this program. why we have robust debate. I don't think that's moral clarity. I think you have to basically

take it issue by issue. Now, when I had Tom Holman on, and you saw it, last Wednesday, I scolded him gently because he was a stand-up guy for coming on, by not giving enough information about the ICE agents and what they do and what they're ordered to do. Because the Homeland Security Department doesn't seem that they think they have an obligation to tell the American people what the deuce is going on. They do. They do. Now there, I'm 100% with the demonstrators who say, well, we can't have, you know, a system whereby people are snatched up. I don't know what the guidelines are. They haven't been put out there. I do know that the judge's deportation orders. There are, these left-winger don't want those enforced. The progressive movement does not want to send

anybody back. They'll say maybe hardened criminals, but they don't want DUI people sent back. They don't want wife abusers sent back. They don't want them. And that's not moral clarity to me. So I think that the moral high ground is held by the people who want to enforce the law, but they have to do a better job of explaining why they're doing what they're doing. Is that reasonable? I think that's entirely reasonable. And I would go further. And I'd say most Americans who look at this, you know, sort of logically and reasonable would say that if you are a hardened criminal or if you've done any serious crime and you're here illegally, you should be deported, right? Of course, everyone is afforded due process if only to find out you got the right guy, right?

Presuming you got the right guy and you know that they did some sort of crime on any scale, you lose the right to be here regardless, right? I think most people do that. They need to clarify what the 1952 law is. and how it's being enforced. And it's a scandal that we haven't had it. We have a woman in Houston, and I want to run this sound by,

get your reaction to it, who had a bunch of friends, and they were out protesting against Trump. Roll that tape. When you see something's wrong, you've got to stand up and do something. You can't just put your head in the sand and hope it goes away.

And whether it affects you or your neighbor doesn't matter, you have to stand up for everyone, where one nation, under God. And with liberty and justice for all. Well, that's just virtue signaling. You know what that is.

It's like, oh, well, what's wrong, lady? What are you objecting to? What exactly is the problem here? Well, that was the essence of my column, really, was that the protest was better at putting up social media posts than it was for actually doing any change. Meaning what we have found here, what I sort of found is that you go on Instagram or TikTok or Twitter and you see all these people putting on photos saying like, look what I did.

I protested and kind of goes away. So I do believe that there's a real concern that there's no organization. These people feel good about themselves because they protested and put up a witty sign and then they go back to normal lives. But you would like, if you were king, if you were king, king calls. I don't think there's ever, there's been a King Canute, but I don't think ever a King Colby. If you were king, you would want to reverse some of the Trump policies, right? No, I would want a more reasonable sort of approach where there were checks and balances.

I think what I would, I would, if I were king, I wouldn't be a king because I'd be for American democracy and the Constitution. And I would ask Congress to- All right, but what has Trump done that you would like to see banished? Well, I would like to see due process, one. I would like to see, I think the government shutdown was not a, was a strategic way to cut a lot of staff. I mean, under the shutdown, the executive branch, the OMD gets a ton of power, so they've been able to fire and lay off a bunch of government workers. So you think that it was a contrived shutdown of fire people? I do. I do. I think it was a clever strategic move by, I mean, it was sort of laid out in the project

2025 and, you know, the cutting of USAD, the doge cuts, all of that stuff sort of fell outside of the realm of what we've. I guess it's possible. But look, say your Senator John Thune, so you're not a king, I just downgraded you to his senator. So Senator Schumer walks in, he looks at you and he says, we're going to shut down a government, we're going to, all of us in Congress, all Democrats, unless Republicans agree, let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war, shaking the markets, and meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold.

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And he knew, but Schumer knew that the Republican Party could never do that, ever in a million years. You're oversimplifying a very complicated health care system. Will people, will undocumented people, they have to be treated at ERs, A, B, the more you cover people with this health care system, and Obamacare is not great. I will agree with that, but it's better than what came before and should be improved. And neither party has put forth anything to try to improve that. But when you cut that funding, guess who's going to pay more? It's all the other Americans that rely on the Affordable Health Care Act, right?

And those prices are going to go way up. And that's a real problem that the country has to face. Thune and Johnson, the two leaders in Congress, both said to Schumer, we will negotiate this with you. What exactly you just said. But the facts of the matter are, okay, that the Congressional Budget Office estimates if the Republican Party and Trump said,

yeah, okay, we'll let you have an extension of Obamacare that will pay for the health care of 7 million undocumented people. That would cost the United States of America. This is CBO number. 662 billion over 10 years. The Republican Party is never going to do that in a million years. So the Democrats knew when they came in that this was going to shut it down, Colby, and they did it to make a stand against Trump.

And that's the truth. I think you're right to say that this was a protest against Trump because the Democrats are in disarray. It's cliche. They have no power. this is the only thing that's the line right and that's what happened but i will say also you know trump and his allies have been talking about repeal and replace obamacare for what 10 years and they got nothing and so if obamacare or the american health care act and our american health care

system is so so broken and and for profit and people are making billions of dollars off of this where is the government responsibility to try to fix it and listen i agree i agree with that 100 That there's got to be a big summit meeting between both parties to come up with a health care system that's, number one, fair, okay, because we do need to have safety nests for older people and people who have to have them. But not giveaways. You know, look, I reported last week, and how many times have you heard Colby? How many times have you heard? Oh, from a Democrat. Oh, the federal government doesn't pick up any of the undocumented health bills.

How many times have you heard that? Too many times. Right. Until we come up with last week, the state of Oregon in its budget has $1.5 billion. Right. All right. All right. feds match a dollar for dollar, and hit it right into the undocumented community.

So the Democrats aren't telling the truth there. They're gaming the system. But you're right. I learned that from you on the news nation town hall. That's right. I learned that from you. Right. Good stuff.

So let's have Schumer open the government because the Democrats are the ones that are closed it. And then Thune and Johnson, you see. set up a summit meeting and you lay out legislation, I think that's the way to go. Last word. I think the Trump administration could be real heroes right now if they put forth a plan. You know, in the way that they settled peace, did them possible by causing to ceasefire and discussing peace in the Middle East. If they could put forth a real health care plan that was better and more affordable to

everyone, that's when he would get the Nobel Peace Prize. But he's not going to do it. He's not, the Republican Party and President Trump are not going to pay the help bills of undocumented people. They're not. Fine. I mean, so let's have the conversation, but something for it. Don't say we're not going to do anything. We're going to do nothing. Let's start the dialogue.

That's what I think. All right, Kobe. We appreciate you taking the time. Thanks, good debate. Well, always going to be here. If you guys want to comment on the debate, Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com, bill at bill o'Reilly.com, name in town, if you wish to a point. weekend edition. It is true that the National Guard, as we saw in D.C. will be a restraining force against

criminals. But the criminals are not going to come out to Pioneer Square in Portland, Oregon if the guard's standing there. The dope dealers aren't going to come out. The gangs on a south shy of Chicago aren't coming out armed to the teeth if the guard is there. So yes, that is an unintended good consequence of these orders, and President Trump knows it. We want to be fair and honest here. Joining us now of New York City is Rebecca Rose Woodland. She is a power house attorney in New York and knows the Constitution very well. We're pleased to have her back. All right, may I make any mistakes here, Counselor? You are absolutely not making any mistakes. You're almost understating the fact that the president under the Insurrection Act has the right to determine,

and I'm going to state, determine, and define what insurrection, rebellion, and domestic violence is. He is the deciding factor. No one else. Okay. So you and I agree. If the president determine, all right, you and I agree, and so does most, so in most of the people watching all around the world.

today. We agree that the president has the authority. But judge after judge after judge after judge try to block presidential authority in this matter. Why do you think that is? Well, this is all political. I mean, these people are standing on weak political grounds. These are Democrats that want to oppose the president any way they can. Legal, unlegal, lawful, unlawful. This is unlawful. They're just. just clogging the courts with useless, useless cases. Taxpayer money is being spent. The Department of Justice is having to spend time

opposing these motions. When the Department of Justice and Attorney General Bondi, Cash Patel from the FBI, should be working on other issues that are facing this country, the incredible drug trade coming in that they're trying to prevent and halt. But no, they're wasting time.

The president has the absolute authority. The Supreme Court said in the 1800s, the president had the authority and the right to define what insurrection is. And if the president sees an insurrection, he can go in with the guard to quell it and to organize it for then the troops and the other criminal law force law enforcement authorities to come in. and then, as you said, effectuate arrests. Okay. This has been since the 1800. This is nothing new. But just as a historical aside, that was done.

All of those things were done because after the Civil War and the Union's victory, a lot of people in the South weren't going to obey. They were just going to persecute the blacks and keep them down and hurt them and hang them. And so the federal government had to intervene. And then U.S. Grant had to go in and destroy the Klan. Not with militia, not with National Guard, with troops. But then we see all throughout history in the 50s with Eisenhower, and the 60s with Kennedy.

So there is no doubt about the fact that the president of the United States, it could be anybody, Barack Obama took over the New Orleans Police Department, has the power to do this. But it's morphed. And I want to get your personal opinion on this. we, you, and me are correct. And the Supreme Court is going to rule in President Trump's favor. And the quicker it gets there, the better to put this all to bed.

But this is now morphed into the king thing, that he's authoritarian, that he's a fascist, that he's illegally using troops to come in to L.A., to Portland, to Chicago, on and on. and it has taken deep root in the minds of some Americans. They don't understand what the Constitution is, and I'm not faulting them. They're not taught it in school. The Constitution, nobody's teaching it anymore.

They don't know what's in it. They don't know what the Rebellion Act is. They don't know what the Interaction Act is. They don't know anything, all right? They hear. But the media has picked up this theme, authoritarian, Nazi, this, that, and they push it every single day. day. And then when they lose Rose, which they will, media is going to ignore that and go on to the

next accusation. And do you have anything to add to that soliloquy? Because I'm in New York on Saturday. I saw all of these protesters, and I tried to ask some of them, what was the king aspect in their opinion, in their terms? And they just kept reiterating the rhetoric. without understanding any of the back lane. No, they don't know. They didn't know at all. And look, Bill, I agree with you. I think that this is an organized effort to just discredit the president without any factual basis.

And it's working to some extent. When you get seven million people out there thinking that he's a king, that organization that they have put together with a lot of Soros money, they're making some end roads. Rose, thanks very much. I really appreciate it. And, you know, look, my job here is to tell you, the viewer and listener, what the facts are. And if you have any beef with my analysis or the counselor's analysis, Bill at Bill O'Reilly.com, bill at bill o'Reilly.com, just put your name in town so we know you're not organized. We don't want one of these people. You know, we don't want that.

Regular people writing it. But I am open to suggestion, but, man, I studied this thing, all right, from every way. And what I am telling you is absolutely true. This is the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. Social media has taken over and that most Americans get their information from social media now. That's annoying. What? You're a muffler. You don't hear it?

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The good thing is that you can get your product. on social media. So while I'm still banished from a lot of the corporate media, not all, but a lot of it, and not just me, but any non-liberal voice, you're never going to get on. Okay? It was funny watching the view ladies goes, well, conservatives are too scared to come on. Yeah, sure. You know, you don't invite them.

Okay? You won't invite them. You won't put them on. That's the truth. So we have a situation where this vast change is taking place underway right now, and Americans don't know about it. They don't know what's happening. Now, the downside of social media is there's no standards.

You can say whatever you want. And to pile on artificial intelligence is about to get into the news information business. That's going to be scary. because you'll have no idea what it's true or what isn't true. They'll be able to resurrect video. They'll even have phony newscasters on there that look real. You're not going to know. That's really dangerous.

So that'll help me and Bill O'Reilly.com because people go, yeah, and they'll come here. And I'll let you know if I'm an AI person. right? I don't think they could possibly even invent somebody as obnoxious as I am, but maybe. All right, sum it up 330 million Americans, right? I'd say more than half of us don't know what the deuce is going on. I have no idea. Now, a lot of those people don't care, but boy, it's getting dangerous out there. If you don't know, you can be manipulated. And that's the memo. All right, joining us now from another point of view is Ian Kahn.

He's got a book out this year called Un-Dirrupted Leadership Essentials on Business, Transformation, Profitability, and Future Readiness. And he does a show on Amazon Prime called The Futurist. All right. So Ian joins us from Las Vegas. I don't know if Las Vegas is the future. They're having a hard time out there because, you know, the Indian casinos have taken a lot of. business away from Vegas. Anyway, that's another story at another time.

So am I making any mistakes in my analysis of the media? You're right on track, Bill. You know, there's so much happening, and it's not just broadcast. It's not, you know, what Warner is doing, what Disney's doing, but it's this whole change in how we consume content. And that has really shifted over the last few years. I sometimes feel that traditional broadcasters are just, living in their own world, they've been doing their own thing for the last few decades,

but social media is coming in. You mentioned AI, and that is a completely new animal where you absolutely cannot tell if this person you're seeing on screen is me or an avatar and how you can program it. So it's the era of deepfakes, it's the era of disinformation, misinformation, and anybody can put up a YouTube channel and talk endlessly nonstop. actually get some followers as well. So the scene has definitely changed and we're headed into an era

where we need to know what we're watching and if it's actually real. But the only way that could happen is if the government then got involved and had standards of behavior that all the social media companies would have to adhere to. And I don't see that happening, Ian.

I don't see that happening either because the way it looks like social media companies are, quite powerful. They're global companies with a lot of access to people, communities, money, power, and it's the stark reality that technology companies have become much more powerful than you would have anticipated, and hence antitrust laws and hence the need to break them down. But some companies are much more powerful than the average American knows based on what they can do and the amount of data that they have and what they know about us.

And they give money the politicians and all that. So your advice to people of goodwill, and that cuts across all parties and all ideologies, who really want to know the truth about their lives and the country in which they live. What is your advice? What do you tell them to do? It's tough advice, and the advice is

Don't trust anybody. Don't trust everything you watch either on social media or on programmatic media or broadcast. You have to balance your opinion by dipping into different pools and get an opinion on various, from various sources. You cannot absolutely just go with the one thing and totally believe it. All right. And that's good advice. But that takes time. And most people are working and they get the kids.

And, you know, it takes time to go survey. I've been doing media for 50 years, and I don't know how much longer I can do it. I mean, I'm in good shape, thank God, and nobody can beat me, even in my advanced age. I mean, they try, but they can't. But sort of or later, I'm going to fall apart. But I look and people go, well, who's going to replace you, O'Reilly? Who's going to take over? And I don't see it.

I don't see, and I'm not being insulting to the younger journalists, but they don't have the training. They don't have the experience. They're not going to cover wars like I did. They're not sent all over the world. They don't have any of this. So that the human element, the information carriers, all right, they were first fostered in World War II. That's where all CBS people came out of. World War II. That was a tough slog. And then the other's next generation was Vietnam and then on and on and on. Now you don't have that. You have Tiffany from La Crosse, Wisconsin, who can't even say what town she's in. And I think that with the technology is really a deficit here in a way people are getting information. Last word. Yeah, we're actually

headed into an era like you mentioned of digital avatars. And I completely believe that in the next five to ten years, we didn't have, you know, for you, right there, but it'll be a digital avatar of you speaking like you, speaking like me. And program. to exactly replicate your mannerisms, your thinking patterns, and people will be watching the virtual, you know, you and enjoying it. We'll call it out. I mean, as long as we have the platform and we have an immense platform, as you know, we will not tolerate that.

Ian, thanks very much. We really appreciate your expertise. Thanks for having me. You're listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. So some of you know that I was friends with Nelson DeMille, one of the most successful authors of fiction in the United States. Mr. DeMille died last year at the age of 81 from cancer. I was with him to the end. He wrote 24 novels.

He was on a bestsellist. He had movies made of his books. You know, I mean, if you read books, you know Nelson DeMille. All right, so he's got a new one out written with his son, the Tin Men. And it comes out October 28 next week. And it's again featuring Army Special Agents Investigators, Scott Brody and Maggie Taylor, which are two very, very good characters. So joining us now from Brooklyn, New York, is Alex DeMille,

who co-wrote this book with his late father. So how you doing, Alex? How's the family, first of all? We really miss Nelson. Thank you, Bill. I'm doing well. I know he always, he appreciate. your friendship and we appreciated it too in the difficult time when he passed last year.

Yeah, we're doing okay. The outpouring of affection for him was really impressive and his son, James, and I know you're helping James out, he's up in college now, but if you guys need anything, you just let me know right away because Nelson was a very unique individual, I respected very much. Now, it must be tough for a son, a young guy. Like, you were, you know, you're in your 40s, but Nelson was a pro. And did he, like, scorn you or scold you during the book

if he didn't like what you were doing? I always wanted to ask you that. No, no. Honestly, when he first asked me to work with him, this would have been in 2017. I told him that I didn't think it was a good idea because, you know, a family relationship, business relationship was two different things. And I was a little concerned that, you know, it would be like oil and water. But despite, you know, his career, despite the fact that I was doing adjacent work,

but I was, you know, I was screenwriting, I was doing film editing and things like that. We came to it with a mutual respect. And he definitely, we had pushed back, you know, most of the time. The first book, I'd say he won, you know, 90% of the battles. Second book, maybe 70%. And, you know, as I got more experienced, a little more seasoned, I think we kind of developed their rapport. What did you offer?

No scolding. Maybe a lot of like angry exes with pencils on the paper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What to do is you doing? What did you offer your father, you know, a fairly big age difference, generational difference. Your father was a hero in Vietnam. I mean, that's how far back he went. So what did you bring him as a younger voice?

Well, the characters that we feature in these three books, Scott Brody and Maggie Taylor, are in their 30s. So their life experience, they're both combat veterans. Their life experiences were closer to him, but their age, their generation was more in line with me. So I think I brought a little bit of a younger voice and kind of a different perspective on how a male, female team professionals working together might interact with each other. what might have been okay in the, you know, in the 80s and that maybe it sort of doesn't work quite the same way today with younger characters. Yeah, I know someone called me one time I was furious because they took out, the publisher took out some of the references that he had in dialogue.

They said, oh, you can't say that about it. I think it was Chinese people. So you, and he was like, all right, it's the way they talk. This is the way to, you know, come on. And I said, listen, Nelson, calm down. Let your son handle this kind of stuff. Well, the example you're talking about is that was the villains. He's like, the villains are being racist and saying racist stuff, but you still don't want it in here, which, yeah, it's complicated.

It's crazy, right. I'm so obnoxious that, you know, and he called me because he knows that, you know, I never change anything no matter what the Polish says. But, you know, you can do that when you sell more nonfiction books, anybody in the world. Your book, This Tin Man, I'm in the middle of it, is a mystery, all right? And it's fun, and people will like it. But I like to read fiction where I learn something. So what am I going to learn in Tin Men? I think you'll probably hopefully learn what I learned, which was the role that

autonomous weaponry and AI and robotics plays and might continue to play in the military. There's a lot of interesting thinking on this right now. How much are you allowed to take a human out of the loop in any of these kind of weapon systems, for instance? Obviously, this is a thriller and things go wrong, but you want to look at how things are actually supposed to go and kind of the official thinking about how they can integrate these things, and the role of AI currently plays and might play in the few. So that's definitely some of the themes I was exploring.

All right, so it's new weaponry, and that's big, because we're in a race with China to some extent Russia to develop these unbelievable weapons now. We wouldn't need the infantry very much anymore except for specialized operations. So you're honing in on that. All right, Alex, look, we wish you the best. The novel is called The Tin Men.

You can order it now on Amazon, and all of that. And, you know, you'll have another bestseller. I can almost guarantee that. And we really appreciate you coming on, Alex. And if you need anything, as I said, let me know, okay? I appreciate that. Thank you, Bill.

Thanks for having you. Right. Thank you for listening to the NoSpin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the NoSpin News, visit Bill O'Reilly. And sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Bill O'Reilly. www.com, sign up and start watching today.