Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - No Spin News - Weekend Edition - October 7, 2023

Episode Date: October 7, 2023

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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. So let's bring in a guy who has a new book out on Joe Biden called Breaking Biden, exposing the hidden forces and secret money machine behind Joe Biden's family and his administration. Alex Marlow is the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News Network. He joins us now from Los Angeles. Full disclosure, Breitbart is conservative. of it doesn't like Joe Biden at all. So people thinking about buying your book, you're coming at it from a point of view that this man is not good for the country. However, I read a lot of the book,

it's a big book, and you document what you say pretty thoroughly, so it's not some screed. And I wondered, based upon what you know, Alex, if you agree with me, that Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee in 24. Hi, Bill. Thank you so much for having me again. Thanks a lot. It's really a pleasure to talk to you. Congrats on killing the witches.

I thought your interview with Tucker was some of the best news content I've seen the whole year. So very great stuff and I felt pretty inspired as an independent media guy myself. It feels good to be in company like yours. I think he's going to be the nominee. I think he's going to be the nominee overall. And the reason why is because he's wanted this his whole life. This goes back to before I could even find documentation, and thanks for noting, how thorough I tried to be.

There's very few greed, rage, although none of that's in the book. All the book is backed up with fact after fact, 1600 citations and all. I want any political stripe to be able to pick it up and to get something out of the book, some entertainment value, some knowledge. obviously I have a perspective. I'm happy to share that, but that was not really the point of the book. The point was to take Joe Biden seriously and dive into his life, what motivates him, et cetera. And he's wanted to be president since he was a boy. And this has been repeated. He doesn't just want to be president. He wants to have a dynasty. He wants to be able to, that's why about a 10,000 square foot house, former DuPont Mansion in Delaware. He eventually got out of it when he got a deal that was way above market rate from a bank executive who, I believe, had invested interest in getting Joe Biden that money. But that was his plan. And that got upended when Bo Biden died of cancer, brain cancer, which was really tragic and tough to go through and learn all about. But overall, he's wanted this so bad. And he's made the moves to stabilize his base support, particularly the Democrat

left, which is how he moved from sort of working class lunch bucket Joe to left wing guy. It's all about keeping that base engaged, which he's proven he's pretty adroited doing it. And so the question is who steps in in his place. It's not going to be Pete Buttigieg or Kamala Harris this time. So who's out there? Maybe Gavin Newsom, but it seems like Gavin might be angling for being that heir to Biden, not necessarily taking over from him during this term right away. It should have been Bo and Bo's not here.

Okay, but look, I had a mother who had significant, mental problems at the end of her life. And I saw how fast she went down. I've seen the exact same thing with Joe Biden, 13 months away the election. He's not going to get any better, Alex. He's going to get worse and worse and worse and worse. So right now, the polls say 40% of Americans still would vote for him.

And these are mostly, as you pointed out, devoted liberals. a lot of them depended on the government to give them money and stuff like that, which Biden, of course, will do. But I don't believe, and I know the democratic infrastructure wants him out, because the Hunter Biden stuff is going to get worse. You may find a link to Joe Biden as far as cash gratuities to the Bidens from their son or hunt, from their son Hunter. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress.

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into specifically Hunter, and this is not going to go well for Joe. But to your first point, before I put some more teeth by what I just said, the one thing about Joe's deteriorating mental health, and I certainly believe he's deteriorating, I pulled insane quotes from Joe throughout the book that he's been delivering his entire life

since he was a boy. So he's always said insane things. He's always seemed like he's out of place from time to time. So this has gone on for a long time. It probably accelerated when he had two aneurysms in his brain during his first presidential run. And since then, it just seems like he's periodically lost. But he's been that way for a long time. And he's still president and executing way too much of his agenda that I'm comfortable with.

But I do think to your second point, it is going to get much worse for him. I broke a story today that's at bright part.com that your audience can check out. of Hunter's involvement in the University of Delaware Biden Institute, which was described as Hunter's Baby. The thing has been tied to China from the start. It was designed to bag cash for Joe Biden's family and for Joe Biden's friends who would eventually go into an administration. And this stuff is still happening.

It's still ongoing. There's been no interest in digging into these things, even though they're literally called Hunter's baby. We don't have any answers as to Hunter's stake that he retains in a company known by Xi Jinping as the Dragonhead, which is a Chinese shipping conglomerate. We know that Hunter was involved, but he still retains an equity stake

as far as I can tell. We're going to get that information eventually if you're allowed to investigate long enough. Okay. So look, I mean, it's just a matter of opinion, but I'm going to stand by my opinion. He's not going to be the nominee. So do you believe that Joe Biden himself

is a corrupt man? That means that he used his elected position, Senator, VP, and now president to amass money for his family. Do you believe he consciously did that? Absolutely, I do. And I think that if you read the book, you'll be more convinced of it than ever. And you use the operative word, which is family.

And somehow we on the right have fallen for some trick, which is that the family doesn't count or something. It does count. This is the anatomy of a bribe bill. If the family is getting paid, and they're not just getting paid by China. They're getting paid by Kazakhstan, as you noted. They're getting paid by Ukraine. They're getting paid by entities around the world from Jamaica to Costa Rica to Saudi Arabia.

All of these places are tied into Biden business, Iraq, and all of these places, the Bidens have no business doing any business there at all. And yet they are, one after the next, after the next. And they keep coming up with new creative ways to use the family name to make money. And Joe puts family first always. It is one thing that comes through beyond any semblance of a doubt when you read the book. The thing he cares about most is protecting his family and elevating his family. All right.

So that's what his family was up to. You believe that he consciously broke the law because it is against the law to use your elected position to enrich your family. There are a lot of statutes. And that's where this impeachment inquiry is going, by the way. They may not have or get the direct. gratuity flowing into Joe Biden's bank account, or, you know, Hunter Biden paying his bills, they may not get that. But they're certainly going to get that Vice President Biden, up until the present moment,

president, has used his power and authority to enrich his family, which is against the law. The clearest example is a Burisma example. It's the most obvious one, but it's because it's all right out there for us. Hunter gets hired on a million dollars a year, energy company in Ukraine. He knows nothing about energy. He knows nothing about Ukraine. They submit that they're unsatisfied with this prosecutor looking into the company. They follow up and say, hey, we've got to get this prosecutor out.

And then Joe Biden fires the prosecutor. We've also learned from recent FOIA revelations that the State Department thought the prosecutor was doing a good job. And Joe Biden defied our own State Department, Barack Obama. Obama State Department in order to fire the prosecutor. Meanwhile, Hunter is getting paid all this money. This is all plain as day, and Joe admitted it. Final question for you. And again, the book is named Breaking Biden.

It is by Alex Marlowe. You can get it anywhere. Do you believe that the House representative, three committees, has enough investigative sophistication? It's like I would have already. called the Secretary of State who was okay with the prosecutor of Burisma, or the undersecretary of State, whoever's on a record. I already called that person in front of the oversight or the Ways and Means Committee to get their testimony. I don't know whether these

men and women are qualified enough to do this kind of a sophistication. What are you think? Personally, I'm with you. I remain negative on this until proven otherwise. There's just no credibility in Washington to solve these problems. But to play devil's advocate, I suppose if I was in charge of the investigation, if I was looking to a mafioso type family, I would start with the lower end and then I would move up and get the bosses at the end. That's how I guess I would probably do it. So if it turns out well, that's going to be it. That's a fair point. All right, Alex, good luck with the book. Thanks for helping us out tonight.

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He has a new podcast on the first TV, Daily Brief, and he comes to us from Boise, Idaho. There's a lot of CIA guys up in Idaho, I understand, right? It's kind of like rural out there and you guys do what you can do. It's good living. It's good living. And it's a CIA relocation program. When you leave the agency, you give you a bus ticket to come to Idaho. There's a lot of interesting characters in Idaho, isn't that for sure?

All right. So my executive order, that makes sense to you, I'm sure, right? It does, but much like, you know, what you've said during. your talking points memo about other issues. And as you pointed out, it's not going to happen. This is a perfect example. What's happening at the border is a perfect example of a self-inflicted wound, right? As you pointed out with the ousting of the speaker,

the border situation didn't have to happen this way, right? But if you ask the cartel leaders in Mexico, if you got them all in a room together, you know, before you blew that room up, but if you got them in a room together and you said, you know, what would make your job? job easier? What would increase your profits? They would all say, lighten up the security at the border. And that's what's happened. And so it's no surprise that the cartels are now making more money than they've ever made before. And that's off of human trafficking and drugs,

primarily. And they're killing more people than they ever had before. So the murder comes along with it. So the Biden administration comes in, day one, knocks out remaining Mexico policy. that stopped 80% of the illegal migration and the asylum into the United States. That was in Trump's last year. He got that done. Why do you think President Biden knocked that out and opened up the border? Well, I think there was immediately this idea that anything that the previous administration, the Trump administration had done, we've got to reverse, right?

And it was a knee-jerk reaction on several fronts, including the border. But reversing Trump-era policy on the border just happened to have the most significant impact on the average American in terms of the increase in drugs being moved into the United States, the increase in violence. It's the demand on city resources. Look, you know it's bad. You know the situation is bad when Eric Adams, the Democrat mayor of New York City, is now in Mexico and will eventually end up at the Darien Gap. which is a key part of the route that most of the immigrants are taking to get up to the border and then into the United States. So you know it's bad when there are some Democrats now complaining to the White House

and putting pressure on the White House to say, look, this is, you know, they're admitting it's in our backyard now, and it's ridiculous. You have to do something. But I still don't know why. Now, the CIA does not operate in the United States. It's not allowed to, but certainly knows what's going on to Mexico, because Mexico is the biggest threat to us, right? right now. CIA knows that. The CIA would know if you open the border up for anybody who

is claiming asylum, anybody, and then you allow them in and five years down the road, maybe you adjudicate their asylum request, you're going to have millions of people take advantage of that. That's not a tough analysis for a CIA person, okay? But that's exactly what happen. But I'm still trying to get it. The CIA director, the current one, must have told Biden that, right? The people must have said, this is cause and effect. You do this. This is what's going to happen. Correct? Yeah. Yeah, look, the Biden administration. Why do it? No, they're not stupid people in the White House. We shouldn't make that mistake. So they do hear it and they are getting this advice. They're getting it from a variety of different agencies, not just the agency in terms of

open borders or the next best thing to open borders are a threat to national security. Look, in September, as an example, in September, there were 260,000 encounters at the southern border. 260,000, right? That is bigger than the population of Laredo, Texas. So that's, we've added an entire town. Those are just the individual. that are encountered. We have no idea. We can extrapolate numbers, but it's a guess. We have no idea how many gotaways there are, and we have no idea, therefore, how many individuals are coming across the border that are threatening to our national security interests, right? Potential terrorists and other. We know all of that. We still don't know why Biden is doing it.

Why is Biden doing it? Yeah, you know what? If I could get inside Biden's mind, well, immediately I'd want to leave. But if I could do that, yeah, I don't know is the answer. I suspect in part there was this knee-jerk reaction. If Trump closed the border, it must be bad. So therefore, we must do the opposite. But there are Democrats who do believe that closing the border or having border security is racist in some fashion, anti-immigrant.

Look, every nation, every nation closes its borders and worries about its borders, protects its borders. I mean, try moving into Mexico. Try going illegally into Mexico and getting a work permit. It's never going to happen, right? But the U.S. is the one country that seems to apologize when we talk about protecting our borders and understanding who's coming on. Progressive movement. I mean, they're behind it. Okay, tell me about the Daily Brief on the first TV. What are you doing there, Mike? Sure. It's called the President's Daily Brief. And the idea is, much like with the PDB that goes to the White House every morning from the Intel community. It's just the top line. The top issues of the day around the globe,

we provide just the facts, a little bit of context, and then we get out and you get on your way. So maybe 20 minutes every morning during the week, a new episode hits. We'll tell you what's going on in the world that you should keep an eye on, something that maybe hasn't hit the radar yet, and you need to focus on. We'll put a little context in there, and then you're off and you're informed and you can start your day. That sounds good, Mike. We really appreciate your expertise. We are seen on the first TV as well. So we're like brothers in arms now. And whenever you see something that's a danger to national security, because you're in the world, let us know because we want to stay ahead of the curve here. Mike Baker, thank you very

much. Appreciate it. Here's the gem from the No Spin News Vault. All right, the aforementioned Kelly Ann Conway is in Washington, D.C., the brand new book. You know about it. You've heard about it. Here's the deal, a memoir, doing very, very well across the country. And she, of course, is a former senior, very important word, senior counselor to President Trump. Hey, nice to see you. I'm glad you're taking the time and talk with us. It's great to see you in the no-spin zone. You know, nobody says that to me.

It's great to see you. You're one of the few people on the planet who's ever said that to me. All right. Trump wants to run for president again. You know it, I know it. Yes. Big picture. Is that a wise thing for him and the country?

Well, the country is suffering under his successor, Joe Biden. I mean, everywhere you look, they don't do anything well. Every poll, including if not especially, Bill, the media polls prove that. People are telling them inflation, gas prices, infant formula, immigration, border security, Ukraine, And all of these issues, crime and drugs have gone to the top, and Biden is ignoring the will of the people. So I think Trump is like the rest of us. He sees all the problems that are happening in this country, and he would like to get in there and solve and fix them. Also, for President Trump, there's an awful lot of finished business that he intended to tackle in his second term.

And so he would like that second term. Now, whoever runs, and Trump will have to decide first, but whoever runs needs to run in the America First agenda. That's a given. This is the issue set. These are the policy prescriptions. These are the promises delivered upon that help this country reach energy independence and unemployment rates and a booming economy, particularly pre-COVID. And frankly, we were doing better around the globe under President Trump with trade deals. Iran and China were more at bay. They weren't salivating. Iran was a salivating at Israel as a nuclear capable nation. Obviously, China and Kim Jong-Lun, Vladimir Putin was not in Ukraine. And the list goes on in the So he would like to do it. He's going to have to navigate how much hate there is out there and how much people are going to lie and cheat to try to keep him from being the president again, too.

Okay. But that's the problem. So the Trump administration was successful, in my opinion. And I think as well versed on this as anybody, the four history shows that we did, we had everything put out there. But, and this is a big, He's so polarizing that a guy like Governor DeSantis of Florida might more easily beat the Democrats, because I don't think Biden's going to run again, than a polarizing guy like Trump.

Is that argument? Does it have any validity? Well, a few things. First of all, Ron DeSantis has been an incredible governor of Florida. There's no question about it. He's raised $100 million. He's on track to have a monster re-election in the fall, which is great. for him, for Florida, and for the country, because DeSantis won with less than 50% of the vote 40 years ago. So it shows, Bill, that if you push back on woke culture, if you push back on all these draconian Byzantine COVID restrictions, if you make your state a hospitable place for individuals and businesses, good things happen, including to you at the ballot box. I will say this, though, if I were Ron DeSantis, I would tell the donors, please stop mentioning my name because the donors are always wrong. I love the donors.

They're successful people in life and in business, but they always pick the wrong candidates, and they certainly never saw Donald Trump coming. If Ron DeSantis wants to run, and he is running on the America First agenda, I think if Donald Trump doesn't run, he has a good shot. Right now, the people who are going to run against Trump... Wait, wait, wait, let me stop.

You think if DeSantis announced he wants to run for president, Trump wouldn't run against him? No, I said if Trump doesn't run, DeSantis could consider it. Right, because I don't think DeSantis will primary Trump. I agree completely. In my last conversation with, well, it wasn't my last, I had a conversation two days ago with the former president. But before that, I said, you'd be wise, in my humble opinion.

And you know how humble I can be to put DeSantis on the second. So to be Trump to Santos, all right? Because that would calm down the anti-Trump Republicans. And there are, you know, a lot of Republicans that don't want to go through the chaos that we went through last time. Now, one of them would have to move out of Florida, but DeSantis could move up to Southern Georgia easy, and Trump could come back to New York if he wanted to. But I think that would be an overpowering ticket.

I don't think anybody's going to, of note, I don't think Mike Pence is going to primary Trump because Trump has so much money, you can just overwhelm them, and the MAGA stuff is very, very powerful. I don't know anybody's going to dent that. But the question remains. Donald Trump's weakness is he polarizes the country. He's never going to unite the country in a million years. So is that the best remedy for the United States having him run again?

A few things. First of all, the current regime has divided the country even worse. I think they have just taken our cultural cleavages bill, and they have ripped them bare and laid them bare, and this unifier Joe Biden is not. So remember, these choices are not this one or not this one. These are binary choices. And I think Biden, who would, I disagree with you a little bit,

he wants to be the nominee next time. I don't think he's not going to get rid of him, though. I think he'll be primaried from the left with who are they going to put there. Kamala Harris, who's in a no-show. He's not even going to bother with it. Jill is going to take him by the hand and go, you know, honey, we're going to go back to Delaware and have a nice life. He's not going to do it.

He should have not originally, Bill, because if you love someone that much, you should say, let's go enjoy the last few years, cognitively challenged the man is declining rapidly before the nation's eyes everyone knows he cannot do the job you know kellyanna i'm a simple man you know that as well as anybody knows it all right i have one question name one thing that president biden has improved in this nation in 17 months in office absolutely nothing not one thing i wish i could tell you biggest supporters, some of whom live on my block, can't name one. Now, let's get to your book. So I read the book, and I'm so busy that I had to stay up late at night to do it.

One of the things that you were better at than all of the other White House pinheads that were running around for the four years, not including Mr. Trump in this, the advisors, is that you could handle the media pretty well. number one do you resent the media in america i resent them believing their job is to get the president rather than get the story and in getting president trump that included his family and his senior advisors and their families and these are thin skin troubled terrified people living in glass houses judging the rest of us and i also you don't like you don't have any use for most of those media people. You think they're in the... I don't have news for most of them. I don't. And here's the other reason why, Bill. So, of course, they didn't want Donald Trump to win in 2016. They didn't vote for him to win. But there was something more at play here. They were shocked, embarrassed that he did

win. And there was almost this immediate revenge factor on that. We must re-embarrass the people who embarrassed us. And I think there's a little naivete by me and my boss and others at the very beginning, like, hey, we have joint custody of the country with, you know, we're going to share joint custody of the nation with the media for the next 48 years, let's try to get the message out. And my, look, my audience is never the liberal anchor sitting across to me. It's the people. There are people out there who, but for voices like ours, are not going to have certain pieces of information they need and certain facts and figures they rely upon. But I'll tell you, it's a shame. They're not all bad. But I think right now the mainstream media attracts a certain

person who lives on social media. They tweet and like each other's tweets all day. That's not even report. They're even editors on social media. Yeah, it's a club. And they're not interested in the facts. Right. Did you get angry inside? You kept your composure outside.

But did you get angry? Because basically, when you were interviewed by the national media, they were trying to trap you. Sure. They were trying to get you to say something that made your boss, Donald Trump, look bad. That was it. You're absolutely right. They weren't trying to get information out of you because they considered you a propaganda.

agendas for Trump. They were trying to trap you. Did that make you angry? No, I don't get angry. It's befuddling to me because it's a sugar high for them. And they usually, most of the time, didn't get their way. So I have chapter 19 in my new book Here's the Deal is called Alternative Hacks. And I talk about that very thing, how there I am, very first person to ever do Sunday shows. I did all three network Sunday shows, ABC, CBS, NBC, from the White House North Lawn. No notes, no net, no staff, and the freezing cold, looking into a blank camera with these three anchors, and I talked for 38 minutes, Bill, 38 minutes about the president's agenda, what was on tap for that first week, how inauguration

weekend had gone. Of course, they all wanted to know about Sean Spicer and the inauguration crowd. And they very clearly said, I'm not a big, I'm not a big crowd-sized girl. I think that presidents are judged ultimately by their economy and their national security farm policy. You had always good, good perspective. So I said alternative facts by accident. I didn't need. to change the relationship in the United States government and her citizen rate in broad daylight with the White House behind me. And yet it became this whole thing. And I put it in the book called alternative hacks. Why? You'll appreciate this. Because I talk about how for two and a half

seconds, I say something that I immediately cleaned up, walked back, didn't intend, no intent there. And they spent two and a half years, not seconds, weeks or months, two and a half years looking for Russia collusion to have swung an election. So I find some of them to be an ethical, if not reprehensible and dishonest. They never apologize. If they have to correct, it's in, it's in a small correction in print. You'll never see it. Well, they were doing, they were doing what their bosses told them to do. That's the bottom line. Last question. And you write about this in the book, but I don't want to be intrusive on this subject because it's just wrong. Your job took a toll on your marriage.

So your husband is not a Trump supporter, to put it mildly. No, I think George's reaction to my job took a toll on my marriage. My job certainly didn't. Okay, so you have children. Once my dad, one's my marriage. He decided to change his mind about Donald Trump and me.

You just, the facts are important here. George urged, if not insisted, I take my shot in 2016 bill when Mr. Trump asked me to be campaign manager. George was there on election night crime. in his black maga hat at the New York Hilton, he, like me, accepted a big job by President elect Trump in the administration. He was supposed to be the head of the civil division of the Department of Justice. That's a big job. And he accepted it. He was interviewing staff.

He was checking out his office. So people need to understand the facts. This is not Carville and Madeline. This is not George McCheney. But I'm more interested in you and your kids. I don't care about him. When that kind of tension is in the home, that takes a toll. Yes, I try to protect my kids from that, which is why I never responded in kind or at the time. So I wasn't tweeting back at George. I had the tweeting men in my life, Donald Trump and George,

but you know, the president was very good to me, Bill. He could have asked me to leave. He could have said, this is too much for us. I love you. You're part of our extended political family, but I got to worry about Vladimir Putin, not George Connery's tweets. He protected me and he was always worried about my children, always,

especially when the media mob came for those kids, which will never be for. gone or forgiven. But I also, you know, as a mother, my first, my first job always is to protect my four children. They had the four chambers of my heart. And I did the best I could, including leaving the job on my terms and my time and that I love very much, Bill. But I did that. Yeah, you have a good line. Less drama, more mama. That was a good line. All right, the book is, here's the deal, a memoir by Kellyanne Conaway. As I said, I held my interest. And, uh, I hope you check it out.

Kellyanne, we'll see you in a couple of weeks. There's a big soiree on Long Island. I'm going to drop in and cause trouble. I'm glad you are. Look forward to it. Very nice for having me. Take care. Sure.

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